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"Rosena" |
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08 Oct 2005 01:43:10 PM |
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@ Important - Maria - Spoiler (Cutting) @ |
I just discoverd last night with Maria's father that Maria is cutting.
We found blood soaked tissue and a stash of blades in three different
places, a note she had written to someone about cutting but not sent
and a book called "cut" about a teenage girl in trouble. I won't go in
to how we discovered all this.
She was gone at a sleep over and is not home yet, we talked to a
counsler who said to let her know we know and take the blades. We are
going to start her in therapy next week.
I am devastated - I don't know how to handle this - how to help her. I
don't know what is troubling her so much. Maria keeps intense feelings
locked down, repressed, and I don't have the key to unlock them to give
her relief.
I am going to suggest to her that she posts here and if she does I am
going to promise her to not read ASD and let her have a place. I KNOW
this place is usually always adults, but there are many many people
here I know from the years who I trust to perhaps engage with her in a
helpful manner. So, if you all see a young teen show up (I don't know
name she'd use perhaps GCjunkie (Good Charlotte Junkie) please try to
talk with her.
I think this is all my fault . . .I was so so so sick with John and
after he left, for two years I was nearly comatose (sp?)
unable to speak, walk, shower, hear noises (radio, birds,conversation
anything) in a bed with no sheets and not luicid when I did mumble.
Marai needed me and I wasn't there and worse than that she was exposed
to an insane mother. Gawd! I don't know how to help her . . . if any
cutters read please tell me today what you reccommend for the mother to
do.
Rosena
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| User: "milllipede man, millie and mollie" |
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| Title: Re: @ Important - Maria - Spoiler (Cutting) @ |
09 Oct 2005 01:31:14 AM |
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Rosena,
I'm not an expert, and I have no personal experience of "cutting" nor do I
know any "cutter", but here are a few observations and suggestions.
This is obviously a very serious situation, and I think Maria needs
immediate professional help.
From your previous posts, I believe that your problems and the problems with
your ex may have contributed to, if not caused, Maria's problems.
This is just my opinion as a layman. Please seek professional advice. Best
wishes,
- millipede man
"Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1128796990.930368.92440@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I just discoverd last night with Maria's father that Maria is cutting.
We found blood soaked tissue and a stash of blades in three different
places, a note she had written to someone about cutting but not sent
and a book called "cut" about a teenage girl in trouble. I won't go in
to how we discovered all this.
She was gone at a sleep over and is not home yet, we talked to a
counsler who said to let her know we know and take the blades. We are
going to start her in therapy next week.
I am devastated - I don't know how to handle this - how to help her. I
don't know what is troubling her so much. Maria keeps intense feelings
locked down, repressed, and I don't have the key to unlock them to give
her relief.
I am going to suggest to her that she posts here and if she does I am
going to promise her to not read ASD and let her have a place. I KNOW
this place is usually always adults, but there are many many people
here I know from the years who I trust to perhaps engage with her in a
helpful manner. So, if you all see a young teen show up (I don't know
name she'd use perhaps GCjunkie (Good Charlotte Junkie) please try to
talk with her.
I think this is all my fault . . .I was so so so sick with John and
after he left, for two years I was nearly comatose (sp?)
unable to speak, walk, shower, hear noises (radio, birds,conversation
anything) in a bed with no sheets and not luicid when I did mumble.
Marai needed me and I wasn't there and worse than that she was exposed
to an insane mother. Gawd! I don't know how to help her . . . if any
cutters read please tell me today what you reccommend for the mother to
do.
Rosena
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: @ Important - Maria - Spoiler (Cutting) @ |
09 Oct 2005 01:36:53 AM |
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so now that she has everyones opinion ,
what do you think she will do
"milllipede man, millie and mollie" <huaMPngm@eMParthMPlinkMP.neMt> wrote in
message news:SO22f.8716$oc.2281@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
Rosena,
I'm not an expert, and I have no personal experience of "cutting" nor do I
know any "cutter", but here are a few observations and suggestions.
This is obviously a very serious situation, and I think Maria needs
immediate professional help.
From your previous posts, I believe that your problems and the problems
with
your ex may have contributed to, if not caused, Maria's problems.
This is just my opinion as a layman. Please seek professional advice. Best
wishes,
- millipede man
"Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1128796990.930368.92440@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I just discoverd last night with Maria's father that Maria is cutting.
We found blood soaked tissue and a stash of blades in three different
places, a note she had written to someone about cutting but not sent
and a book called "cut" about a teenage girl in trouble. I won't go in
to how we discovered all this.
She was gone at a sleep over and is not home yet, we talked to a
counsler who said to let her know we know and take the blades. We are
going to start her in therapy next week.
I am devastated - I don't know how to handle this - how to help her. I
don't know what is troubling her so much. Maria keeps intense feelings
locked down, repressed, and I don't have the key to unlock them to give
her relief.
I am going to suggest to her that she posts here and if she does I am
going to promise her to not read ASD and let her have a place. I KNOW
this place is usually always adults, but there are many many people
here I know from the years who I trust to perhaps engage with her in a
helpful manner. So, if you all see a young teen show up (I don't know
name she'd use perhaps GCjunkie (Good Charlotte Junkie) please try to
talk with her.
I think this is all my fault . . .I was so so so sick with John and
after he left, for two years I was nearly comatose (sp?)
unable to speak, walk, shower, hear noises (radio, birds,conversation
anything) in a bed with no sheets and not luicid when I did mumble.
Marai needed me and I wasn't there and worse than that she was exposed
to an insane mother. Gawd! I don't know how to help her . . . if any
cutters read please tell me today what you reccommend for the mother to
do.
Rosena
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: @ Important - Maria - Spoiler (Cutting) @ |
10 Oct 2005 08:21:21 AM |
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n Sat, 8 Oct 2005 23:36:53 -0700, "%" <Persent@Gmail.com> wrote:
->so now that she has everyones opinion ,
->what do you think she will do
What she always does -- look for someone to rescue her and her
daughter too, now.
I feel for Maria and hope she gets useful real-life assistance.
--
I've always loved me, I was just taught that I didn't.
- %
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: @ Important - Maria - Spoiler (Cutting) @ |
10 Oct 2005 08:40:57 AM |
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"notchimera" <dont@bother.com> wrote in message
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n Sat, 8 Oct 2005 23:36:53 -0700, "%" <Persent@Gmail.com> wrote:
->so now that she has everyones opinion ,
->what do you think she will do
What she always does -- look for someone to rescue her and her
daughter too, now.
I feel for Maria and hope she gets useful real-life assistance.
--
I've always loved me, I was just taught that I didn't.
- %
well , i've tried to help her and i have some great advice ,
but she won't answer me and i guess its understandable ,
i'm liable to ask hard questions like , what are you going to do
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| User: "%" |
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08 Oct 2005 02:16:14 PM |
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"Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1128796990.930368.92440@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I just discoverd last night with Maria's father that Maria is cutting.
We found blood soaked tissue and a stash of blades in three different
places, a note she had written to someone about cutting but not sent
and a book called "cut" about a teenage girl in trouble. I won't go in
to how we discovered all this.
She was gone at a sleep over and is not home yet, we talked to a
counsler who said to let her know we know and take the blades. We are
going to start her in therapy next week.
I am devastated - I don't know how to handle this - how to help her. I
don't know what is troubling her so much. Maria keeps intense feelings
locked down, repressed, and I don't have the key to unlock them to give
her relief.
I am going to suggest to her that she posts here and if she does I am
going to promise her to not read ASD and let her have a place. I KNOW
this place is usually always adults, but there are many many people
here I know from the years who I trust to perhaps engage with her in a
helpful manner. So, if you all see a young teen show up (I don't know
name she'd use perhaps GCjunkie (Good Charlotte Junkie) please try to
talk with her.
I think this is all my fault . . .I was so so so sick with John and
after he left, for two years I was nearly comatose (sp?)
unable to speak, walk, shower, hear noises (radio, birds,conversation
anything) in a bed with no sheets and not luicid when I did mumble.
Marai needed me and I wasn't there and worse than that she was exposed
to an insane mother. Gawd! I don't know how to help her . . . if any
cutters read please tell me today what you reccommend for the mother to
do.
Rosena
well i seriously hope her posting here doesn't make it worse
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| User: "sortalily" |
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| Title: Re: @ Important - Maria - Spoiler (Cutting) @ |
08 Oct 2005 02:25:04 PM |
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well said. i don't think this place is good for a kid.
her kid is like what 10, 12? she needs therapy from a professional .. not
a newsgroup.
"%" <Persent@Gmail.com> wrote in message
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| "Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
| news:1128796990.930368.92440@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| >
| > I just discoverd last night with Maria's father that Maria is cutting.
| > We found blood soaked tissue and a stash of blades in three different
| > places, a note she had written to someone about cutting but not sent
| > and a book called "cut" about a teenage girl in trouble. I won't go in
| > to how we discovered all this.
| >
| > She was gone at a sleep over and is not home yet, we talked to a
| > counsler who said to let her know we know and take the blades. We are
| > going to start her in therapy next week.
| >
| > I am devastated - I don't know how to handle this - how to help her. I
| > don't know what is troubling her so much. Maria keeps intense feelings
| > locked down, repressed, and I don't have the key to unlock them to give
| > her relief.
| >
| > I am going to suggest to her that she posts here and if she does I am
| > going to promise her to not read ASD and let her have a place. I KNOW
| > this place is usually always adults, but there are many many people
| > here I know from the years who I trust to perhaps engage with her in a
| > helpful manner. So, if you all see a young teen show up (I don't know
| > name she'd use perhaps GCjunkie (Good Charlotte Junkie) please try to
| > talk with her.
| >
| > I think this is all my fault . . .I was so so so sick with John and
| > after he left, for two years I was nearly comatose (sp?)
| > unable to speak, walk, shower, hear noises (radio, birds,conversation
| > anything) in a bed with no sheets and not luicid when I did mumble.
| > Marai needed me and I wasn't there and worse than that she was exposed
| > to an insane mother. Gawd! I don't know how to help her . . . if any
| > cutters read please tell me today what you reccommend for the mother to
| > do.
| >
| > Rosena
| >
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| well i seriously hope her posting here doesn't make it worse
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: @ Important - Maria - Spoiler (Cutting) @ |
08 Oct 2005 02:42:54 PM |
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Kids are old than you think.
18 to buy porn? I was lookin at nekkid ladies at every opportunity I could
ever since I took an interest in girls, so that's what 12-13?
21 to drink? I started pilfering booze from parents at 14, we'd get drunk
and go biking around. When stealing/begging older siblings became
inconvenient I turned to an encyclopedia and learned how alcohol was made
and setup my own micro brewery, and I'd have been turning out potato based
moonshine at 17 if my still hadn't been found literally days before I was
ready to fire it up.
By the time they're 13 (at least for my childhood and the boys I grew up
with) they're already into stuff that would likely shock parents.
This place is absolutely no replacement for proper care, but it's not
supposed to be.
"sortalily" <still@here.nnetttt> wrote in message
news:f9ednd4z0YSSgNXeRVn-gQ@rcn.net...
well said. i don't think this place is good for a kid.
her kid is like what 10, 12? she needs therapy from a professional ..
not
a newsgroup.
"%" <Persent@Gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4fCdncXUu59Uh9XeRVn-gg@giganews.com...
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| "Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
| news:1128796990.930368.92440@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| >
| > I just discoverd last night with Maria's father that Maria is cutting.
| > We found blood soaked tissue and a stash of blades in three different
| > places, a note she had written to someone about cutting but not sent
| > and a book called "cut" about a teenage girl in trouble. I won't go in
| > to how we discovered all this.
| >
| > She was gone at a sleep over and is not home yet, we talked to a
| > counsler who said to let her know we know and take the blades. We are
| > going to start her in therapy next week.
| >
| > I am devastated - I don't know how to handle this - how to help her. I
| > don't know what is troubling her so much. Maria keeps intense
feelings
| > locked down, repressed, and I don't have the key to unlock them to
give
| > her relief.
| >
| > I am going to suggest to her that she posts here and if she does I am
| > going to promise her to not read ASD and let her have a place. I KNOW
| > this place is usually always adults, but there are many many people
| > here I know from the years who I trust to perhaps engage with her in a
| > helpful manner. So, if you all see a young teen show up (I don't know
| > name she'd use perhaps GCjunkie (Good Charlotte Junkie) please try to
| > talk with her.
| >
| > I think this is all my fault . . .I was so so so sick with John and
| > after he left, for two years I was nearly comatose (sp?)
| > unable to speak, walk, shower, hear noises (radio, birds,conversation
| > anything) in a bed with no sheets and not luicid when I did mumble.
| > Marai needed me and I wasn't there and worse than that she was exposed
| > to an insane mother. Gawd! I don't know how to help her . . . if any
| > cutters read please tell me today what you reccommend for the mother
to
| > do.
| >
| > Rosena
| >
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| well i seriously hope her posting here doesn't make it worse
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| User: "%" |
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08 Oct 2005 02:48:56 PM |
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i can't compare boobie girls in magazines to this group
but i am aware of lots of people who got worse after coming here
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3qqlptFge8dcU1@individual.net...
Kids are old than you think.
18 to buy porn? I was lookin at nekkid ladies at every opportunity I could
ever since I took an interest in girls, so that's what 12-13?
21 to drink? I started pilfering booze from parents at 14, we'd get drunk
and go biking around. When stealing/begging older siblings became
inconvenient I turned to an encyclopedia and learned how alcohol was made
and setup my own micro brewery, and I'd have been turning out potato based
moonshine at 17 if my still hadn't been found literally days before I was
ready to fire it up.
By the time they're 13 (at least for my childhood and the boys I grew up
with) they're already into stuff that would likely shock parents.
This place is absolutely no replacement for proper care, but it's not
supposed to be.
"sortalily" <still@here.nnetttt> wrote in message
news:f9ednd4z0YSSgNXeRVn-gQ@rcn.net...
well said. i don't think this place is good for a kid.
her kid is like what 10, 12? she needs therapy from a professional ..
not
a newsgroup.
"%" <Persent@Gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4fCdncXUu59Uh9XeRVn-gg@giganews.com...
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| "Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
| news:1128796990.930368.92440@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| >
| > I just discoverd last night with Maria's father that Maria is
cutting.
| > We found blood soaked tissue and a stash of blades in three
different
| > places, a note she had written to someone about cutting but not sent
| > and a book called "cut" about a teenage girl in trouble. I won't go
in
| > to how we discovered all this.
| >
| > She was gone at a sleep over and is not home yet, we talked to a
| > counsler who said to let her know we know and take the blades. We
are
| > going to start her in therapy next week.
| >
| > I am devastated - I don't know how to handle this - how to help her.
I
| > don't know what is troubling her so much. Maria keeps intense
feelings
| > locked down, repressed, and I don't have the key to unlock them to
give
| > her relief.
| >
| > I am going to suggest to her that she posts here and if she does I
am
| > going to promise her to not read ASD and let her have a place. I
KNOW
| > this place is usually always adults, but there are many many people
| > here I know from the years who I trust to perhaps engage with her in
a
| > helpful manner. So, if you all see a young teen show up (I don't
know
| > name she'd use perhaps GCjunkie (Good Charlotte Junkie) please try
to
| > talk with her.
| >
| > I think this is all my fault . . .I was so so so sick with John and
| > after he left, for two years I was nearly comatose (sp?)
| > unable to speak, walk, shower, hear noises (radio,
birds,conversation
| > anything) in a bed with no sheets and not luicid when I did mumble.
| > Marai needed me and I wasn't there and worse than that she was
exposed
| > to an insane mother. Gawd! I don't know how to help her . . . if
any
| > cutters read please tell me today what you reccommend for the mother
to
| > do.
| >
| > Rosena
| >
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| well i seriously hope her posting here doesn't make it worse
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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08 Oct 2005 02:04:33 PM |
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"Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1128796990.930368.92440@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I just discoverd last night with Maria's father that Maria is cutting.
We found blood soaked tissue and a stash of blades in three different
places, a note she had written to someone about cutting but not sent
and a book called "cut" about a teenage girl in trouble. I won't go in
to how we discovered all this.
She was gone at a sleep over and is not home yet, we talked to a
counsler who said to let her know we know and take the blades. We are
going to start her in therapy next week.
I am devastated - I don't know how to handle this - how to help her. I
don't know what is troubling her so much. Maria keeps intense feelings
locked down, repressed, and I don't have the key to unlock them to give
her relief.
I am going to suggest to her that she posts here and if she does I am
going to promise her to not read ASD and let her have a place. I KNOW
this place is usually always adults, but there are many many people
here I know from the years who I trust to perhaps engage with her in a
helpful manner. So, if you all see a young teen show up (I don't know
name she'd use perhaps GCjunkie (Good Charlotte Junkie) please try to
talk with her.
I think this is all my fault . . .I was so so so sick with John and
after he left, for two years I was nearly comatose (sp?)
unable to speak, walk, shower, hear noises (radio, birds,conversation
anything) in a bed with no sheets and not luicid when I did mumble.
Marai needed me and I wasn't there and worse than that she was exposed
to an insane mother. Gawd! I don't know how to help her . . . if any
cutters read please tell me today what you reccommend for the mother to
do.
Rosena
I'd suggest not telling us who she is, you never know who might have an axe
to grind with you and take it out on her. You also never know who would
start talking ***** about you just to wind her up.
I've never understood cutting.
If she uses her own nick (that you don't know) as well you both could read
ASD and not know who each other are.
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| User: "jill" |
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| Title: Re: @ Important - Maria - Spoiler (Cutting) @ |
08 Oct 2005 05:53:03 PM |
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Franz Bestuchev wrote:
"Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1128796990.930368.92440@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I just discoverd last night with Maria's father that Maria is cutting.
We found blood soaked tissue and a stash of blades in three different
places, a note she had written to someone about cutting but not sent
and a book called "cut" about a teenage girl in trouble. I won't go in
to how we discovered all this.
She was gone at a sleep over and is not home yet, we talked to a
counsler who said to let her know we know and take the blades. We are
going to start her in therapy next week.
I am devastated - I don't know how to handle this - how to help her. I
don't know what is troubling her so much. Maria keeps intense feelings
locked down, repressed, and I don't have the key to unlock them to give
her relief.
I am going to suggest to her that she posts here and if she does I am
going to promise her to not read ASD and let her have a place. I KNOW
this place is usually always adults, but there are many many people
here I know from the years who I trust to perhaps engage with her in a
helpful manner. So, if you all see a young teen show up (I don't know
name she'd use perhaps GCjunkie (Good Charlotte Junkie) please try to
talk with her.
I think this is all my fault . . .I was so so so sick with John and
after he left, for two years I was nearly comatose (sp?)
unable to speak, walk, shower, hear noises (radio, birds,conversation
anything) in a bed with no sheets and not luicid when I did mumble.
Marai needed me and I wasn't there and worse than that she was exposed
to an insane mother. Gawd! I don't know how to help her . . . if any
cutters read please tell me today what you reccommend for the mother to
do.
Rosena
I'd suggest not telling us who she is, you never know who might have an axe
to grind with you and take it out on her. You also never know who would
start talking ***** about you just to wind her up.
I've never understood cutting.
If she uses her own nick (that you don't know) as well you both could read
ASD and not know who each other are.
I think the idea behind cutting. It hurts less then everything
else.Its choosing one pain over another. jil
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| User: "Rosena" |
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08 Oct 2005 06:09:23 PM |
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Hi Jill,
Yes, but I do not know why she is in pain. She likes it here so not
move. She feels stupid I know but she is so bright. I don't know the
nature of this deep pain . . .
Rosena
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| User: "jill" |
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| Title: Re: @ Important - Maria - Spoiler (Cutting) @ |
09 Oct 2005 10:35:57 AM |
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Rosena wrote:
Hi Jill,
Yes, but I do not know why she is in pain. She likes it here so not
move. She feels stupid I know but she is so bright. I don't know the
nature of this deep pain . . .
Rosena
Hi,
The billion dollar question... what the hell is so wrong that maria
would do this.
you really can't protect your kids from the bad people. Sharks in
the water everywhere. You can only educate them . People who know
who they are are alot less vulnerable. Having a strong identity
protects people from predators. This news group is no substitute for
therapy with a professional. Its also no more likely to harm her then
a million other places on the web.
(((hugs))) you can get thru
this!! jill
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| User: "slunky" |
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| Title: Re: @ Important - Maria - Spoiler (Cutting) @ |
09 Oct 2005 02:46:12 PM |
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jill <janeohara50@msn.com> wrote:
The billion dollar question... what the hell is so wrong that maria
would do this.
There doesn't have to be something traumatic going on for someone to want
to hurt themself. Does there have to be something so wrong going on that
makes you crave a cigarette? Is smoking any better than superficial
wounds? People find effective ways of dealing with stress, depresion and
the like. Cutting is not good. It's not positive, but a person doesn't
have to be a maniac or a psycho to want to do it.
-slunky
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| User: "Luna" |
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09 Oct 2005 03:48:42 PM |
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"slunky" <spam@showingourscars.org> wrote in message
news:dibs24$8nd$2@chessie.cirr.com...
jill <janeohara50@msn.com> wrote:
The billion dollar question... what the hell is so wrong that maria
would do this.
There doesn't have to be something traumatic going on for someone to want
to hurt themself. Does there have to be something so wrong going on that
makes you crave a cigarette? Is smoking any better than superficial
wounds? People find effective ways of dealing with stress, depresion and
the like. Cutting is not good. It's not positive, but a person doesn't
have to be a maniac or a psycho to want to do it.
No, they're not psychotic but christ, something is wrong. To compare
smoking to cutting is a little ridiculous. Smoking will kill you in 50
years or so but like overeating, it's a lot easier to be not making a
conscious decision to hurt yourself when you're 13 years old by picking up a
cigarette or the supersized fries then it is picking up a razor blade and
slicing your flesh with it. I mean, come on. This is rhetoric that ignores
the absolute obvious.
Jean
-slunky
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10 Oct 2005 09:56:32 AM |
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Luna wrote:
"slunky" <spam@showingourscars.org> wrote in message
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jill <janeohara50@msn.com> wrote:
The billion dollar question... what the hell is so wrong that maria
would do this.
There doesn't have to be something traumatic going on for someone to want
to hurt themself. Does there have to be something so wrong going on that
makes you crave a cigarette? Is smoking any better than superficial
wounds? People find effective ways of dealing with stress, depresion and
the like. Cutting is not good. It's not positive, but a person doesn't
have to be a maniac or a psycho to want to do it.
No, they're not psychotic but christ, something is wrong. To compare
smoking to cutting is a little ridiculous. Smoking will kill you in 50
years or so but like overeating, it's a lot easier to be not making a
conscious decision to hurt yourself when you're 13 years old by picking up a
cigarette or the supersized fries then it is picking up a razor blade and
slicing your flesh with it. I mean, come on. This is rhetoric that ignores
the absolute obvious.
Jean
-slunky
(((((LUNAAAA))) once again you are so right about this, jill
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| User: "Luna" |
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10 Oct 2005 11:21:23 AM |
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"jill" <janeohara50@msn.com> wrote in message
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<snip>
No, they're not psychotic but christ, something is wrong. To compare
smoking to cutting is a little ridiculous. Smoking will kill you in 50
years or so but like overeating, it's a lot easier to be not making a
conscious decision to hurt yourself when you're 13 years old by picking
up a
cigarette or the supersized fries then it is picking up a razor blade
and
slicing your flesh with it. I mean, come on. This is rhetoric that
ignores
the absolute obvious.
Jean
-slunky
(((((LUNAAAA))) once again you are so right about this, jill
If you agree with me then I must be. :)
Jean
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| User: "jill" |
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10 Oct 2005 09:52:21 AM |
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slunky wrote:
jill <janeohara50@msn.com> wrote:
The billion dollar question... what the hell is so wrong that maria
would do this.
There doesn't have to be something traumatic going on for someone to want
to hurt themself. Does there have to be something so wrong going on that
makes you crave a cigarette? Is smoking any better than superficial
wounds? People find effective ways of dealing with stress, depresion and
the like. Cutting is not good. It's not positive, but a person doesn't
have to be a maniac or a psycho to want to do it.
-slunky
of course not I didn't mean to imply that/ I do not think the
cigarette analogy flies though. A cigarette creates a pleasurable
sensation in the body. It's relaxing. Cutting hurts. It's not the
same thing at all.
Yeah, I stand by my original position that somewhere deep down there
is some trauma/ some rage/ some helplessness. that is huge.
People smoke to hang with smokers . People do not cut to hang with
cutters. Its just a whole different thing happening . this is just my
opinion of course. I could be totally wrong. good luck to you
slunky. jill
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| User: "Used2be" |
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10 Oct 2005 10:20:09 AM |
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"jill" <janeohara50@msn.com> wrote in message
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slunky wrote:
jill <janeohara50@msn.com> wrote:
The billion dollar question... what the hell is so wrong that maria
would do this.
There doesn't have to be something traumatic going on for someone to want
to hurt themself. Does there have to be something so wrong going on that
makes you crave a cigarette? Is smoking any better than superficial
wounds? People find effective ways of dealing with stress, depresion and
the like. Cutting is not good. It's not positive, but a person doesn't
have to be a maniac or a psycho to want to do it.
-slunky
of course not I didn't mean to imply that/ I do not think the
cigarette analogy flies though. A cigarette creates a pleasurable
sensation in the body. It's relaxing. Cutting hurts. It's not the
same thing at all.
i have to disagree with you, hun. cutting doesn't hurt when you are in that
much mental pain. it is a pleasureable sensation and almost gives you a
"high." yes, it hurts later, but at the time of cutting, it can be quite
euphoric.
:/
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10 Oct 2005 10:29:32 AM |
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Used2be wrote:
"jill" <janeohara50@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1128955941.294992.21950@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
slunky wrote:
jill <janeohara50@msn.com> wrote:
The billion dollar question... what the hell is so wrong that maria
would do this.
There doesn't have to be something traumatic going on for someone to want
to hurt themself. Does there have to be something so wrong going on that
makes you crave a cigarette? Is smoking any better than superficial
wounds? People find effective ways of dealing with stress, depresion and
the like. Cutting is not good. It's not positive, but a person doesn't
have to be a maniac or a psycho to want to do it.
-slunky
of course not I didn't mean to imply that/ I do not think the
cigarette analogy flies though. A cigarette creates a pleasurable
sensation in the body. It's relaxing. Cutting hurts. It's not the
same thing at all.
i have to disagree with you, hun. cutting doesn't hurt when you are in that
much mental pain. it is a pleasureable sensation and almost gives you a
"high." yes, it hurts later, but at the time of cutting, it can be quite
euphoric.
Cindi, your right thats news to me. It feels good/okay if you say so. Thats an important point that I have not read anywhere else. I can't quite wrap my mind around that. but I believe you, jill
:/
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| User: "Used2be" |
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| Title: Re: @ Important - Maria - Spoiler (Cutting) @ |
10 Oct 2005 10:44:24 AM |
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"jill" <janeohara50@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1128958172.863438.278890@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Used2be wrote:
"jill" <janeohara50@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1128955941.294992.21950@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
slunky wrote:
jill <janeohara50@msn.com> wrote:
The billion dollar question... what the hell is so wrong that
maria
would do this.
There doesn't have to be something traumatic going on for someone to
want
to hurt themself. Does there have to be something so wrong going on
that
makes you crave a cigarette? Is smoking any better than superficial
wounds? People find effective ways of dealing with stress, depresion
and
the like. Cutting is not good. It's not positive, but a person doesn't
have to be a maniac or a psycho to want to do it.
-slunky
of course not I didn't mean to imply that/ I do not think the
cigarette analogy flies though. A cigarette creates a pleasurable
sensation in the body. It's relaxing. Cutting hurts. It's not the
same thing at all.
i have to disagree with you, hun. cutting doesn't hurt when you are in
that
much mental pain. it is a pleasureable sensation and almost gives you a
"high." yes, it hurts later, but at the time of cutting, it can be quite
euphoric.
Cindi, your right thats news to me. It feels good/okay if you say so.
Thats an important point that I have not read anywhere else. I can't
quite wrap my mind around that. but I believe you, jill
:/
it's hard to explain to folks who aren't cutters...i don't usually even try.
it doesn't seem to make any sense, that's for sure. but there it is...
fwiw rosena (if you are reading this), i doubt that maria is to the point
that she's cutting for relief. cutting is a bit of a "fad" in the schools
right now...almost like having a tatoo or an odd piercing. i don't think
teens cut for the same reasons that adults do. usually not unless they've
experienced sexual abuse. most teens cut just because it's cool. hopefully
this is the case with maria, and you can get it nipped in the bud right
away.
as a good friend reminded me recently....the focus needs to not be on the
cutting itself, but on the underlying problem. if a big deal is made of the
cutting, it's just going to get worse. why? because it gets attention.
and that is what 13 yr olds want more than anything.
~u2b
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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11 Oct 2005 11:08:10 AM |
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Used2be wrote...
"jill" <janeohara50@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1128958172.863438.278890@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com..
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Used2be wrote:
"jill" <janeohara50@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1128955941.294992.21950@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com.
..
slunky wrote:
jill <janeohara50@msn.com> wrote:
The billion dollar question... what the hell is so
wrong that maria
would do this.
There doesn't have to be something traumatic going on
for someone to want
to hurt themself. Does there have to be something so
wrong going on that
makes you crave a cigarette? Is smoking any better
than superficial wounds? People find effective ways of
dealing with stress, depresion and
the like. Cutting is not good. It's not positive, but
a person doesn't have to be a maniac or a psycho to
want to do it.
-slunky
of course not I didn't mean to imply that/ I do not
think the cigarette analogy flies though. A cigarette
creates a pleasurable sensation in the body. It's
relaxing. Cutting hurts. It's not the same thing at
all.
i have to disagree with you, hun. cutting doesn't hurt
when you are in that
much mental pain. it is a pleasureable sensation and
almost gives you a "high." yes, it hurts later, but at
the time of cutting, it can be quite euphoric.
Cindi, your right thats news to me. It feels good/okay
if you say so. Thats an important point that I have not
read anywhere else. I can't quite wrap my mind around
that. but I believe you, jill
:/
it's hard to explain to folks who aren't cutters...i don't
usually even try. it doesn't seem to make any sense, that's
for sure. but there it is...
fwiw rosena (if you are reading this), i doubt that maria
is to the point that she's cutting for relief. cutting is
a bit of a "fad" in the schools right now...almost like
having a tatoo or an odd piercing. i don't think teens cut
for the same reasons that adults do. usually not unless
they've experienced sexual abuse. most teens cut just
because it's cool. hopefully this is the case with maria,
and you can get it nipped in the bud right away.
as a good friend reminded me recently....the focus needs to
not be on the cutting itself, but on the underlying
problem. if a big deal is made of the cutting, it's just
going to get worse. why? because it gets attention. and
that is what 13 yr olds want more than anything.
~u2b
cutting doesn't have to due to sexual abuse. usually, there's
trauma of some kind, but it can be any kind of physical or
emotional trauma. there's usually a very low self-esteem, for
whatever reason. i was never sexually abused. i was
emotionally abused. hated myself. started cutting at 14.
-lisa
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| User: "Rosena" |
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08 Oct 2005 02:23:25 PM |
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Good thought Franz! I will do it like you suggested. I don't
understand either . . .
Hope you are well
Rosena
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| User: "sortalily" |
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08 Oct 2005 02:23:39 PM |
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kids should not be posting here.
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3qqjhvFd4qm5U1@individual.net...
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| "Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
| news:1128796990.930368.92440@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| >
| > I just discoverd last night with Maria's father that Maria is cutting.
| > We found blood soaked tissue and a stash of blades in three different
| > places, a note she had written to someone about cutting but not sent
| > and a book called "cut" about a teenage girl in trouble. I won't go in
| > to how we discovered all this.
| >
| > She was gone at a sleep over and is not home yet, we talked to a
| > counsler who said to let her know we know and take the blades. We are
| > going to start her in therapy next week.
| >
| > I am devastated - I don't know how to handle this - how to help her. I
| > don't know what is troubling her so much. Maria keeps intense feelings
| > locked down, repressed, and I don't have the key to unlock them to give
| > her relief.
| >
| > I am going to suggest to her that she posts here and if she does I am
| > going to promise her to not read ASD and let her have a place. I KNOW
| > this place is usually always adults, but there are many many people
| > here I know from the years who I trust to perhaps engage with her in a
| > helpful manner. So, if you all see a young teen show up (I don't know
| > name she'd use perhaps GCjunkie (Good Charlotte Junkie) please try to
| > talk with her.
| >
| > I think this is all my fault . . .I was so so so sick with John and
| > after he left, for two years I was nearly comatose (sp?)
| > unable to speak, walk, shower, hear noises (radio, birds,conversation
| > anything) in a bed with no sheets and not luicid when I did mumble.
| > Marai needed me and I wasn't there and worse than that she was exposed
| > to an insane mother. Gawd! I don't know how to help her . . . if any
| > cutters read please tell me today what you reccommend for the mother to
| > do.
| >
| > Rosena
| >
|
| I'd suggest not telling us who she is, you never know who might have an
axe
| to grind with you and take it out on her. You also never know who would
| start talking ***** about you just to wind her up.
|
| I've never understood cutting.
|
| If she uses her own nick (that you don't know) as well you both could read
| ASD and not know who each other are.
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: @ Important - Maria - Spoiler (Cutting) @ |
08 Oct 2005 02:28:11 PM |
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says you, but we all know you're 14
"sortalily" <still@here.nnetttt> wrote in message
news:sN2dnVMIGesngdXenZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@rcn.net...
kids should not be posting here.
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3qqjhvFd4qm5U1@individual.net...
|
| "Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
| news:1128796990.930368.92440@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| >
| > I just discoverd last night with Maria's father that Maria is cutting.
| > We found blood soaked tissue and a stash of blades in three different
| > places, a note she had written to someone about cutting but not sent
| > and a book called "cut" about a teenage girl in trouble. I won't go in
| > to how we discovered all this.
| >
| > She was gone at a sleep over and is not home yet, we talked to a
| > counsler who said to let her know we know and take the blades. We are
| > going to start her in therapy next week.
| >
| > I am devastated - I don't know how to handle this - how to help her. I
| > don't know what is troubling her so much. Maria keeps intense
feelings
| > locked down, repressed, and I don't have the key to unlock them to
give
| > her relief.
| >
| > I am going to suggest to her that she posts here and if she does I am
| > going to promise her to not read ASD and let her have a place. I KNOW
| > this place is usually always adults, but there are many many people
| > here I know from the years who I trust to perhaps engage with her in a
| > helpful manner. So, if you all see a young teen show up (I don't know
| > name she'd use perhaps GCjunkie (Good Charlotte Junkie) please try to
| > talk with her.
| >
| > I think this is all my fault . . .I was so so so sick with John and
| > after he left, for two years I was nearly comatose (sp?)
| > unable to speak, walk, shower, hear noises (radio, birds,conversation
| > anything) in a bed with no sheets and not luicid when I did mumble.
| > Marai needed me and I wasn't there and worse than that she was exposed
| > to an insane mother. Gawd! I don't know how to help her . . . if any
| > cutters read please tell me today what you reccommend for the mother
to
| > do.
| >
| > Rosena
| >
|
| I'd suggest not telling us who she is, you never know who might have an
axe
| to grind with you and take it out on her. You also never know who would
| start talking ***** about you just to wind her up.
|
| I've never understood cutting.
|
| If she uses her own nick (that you don't know) as well you both could
read
| ASD and not know who each other are.
|
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| User: "sortalily" |
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| Title: Re: @ Important - Maria - Spoiler (Cutting) @ |
08 Oct 2005 02:32:05 PM |
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no i'm not 14. but come on franz .. would you suggest your kid post here?
with people like marty and other trolls? there were some teens who used to
post here and were prime targets for pedophiles.
i wouldn't my my daughter to post her thoughts on a group with adults. a
teen or preteen is just to vunerable.
just my 2cetns.
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3qqku9Fg590hU1@individual.net...
| says you, but we all know you're 14
|
| "sortalily" <still@here.nnetttt> wrote in message
| news:sN2dnVMIGesngdXenZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@rcn.net...
| > kids should not be posting here.
| >
| > "Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:3qqjhvFd4qm5U1@individual.net...
| > |
| > | "Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
| > | news:1128796990.930368.92440@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| > | >
| > | > I just discoverd last night with Maria's father that Maria is
cutting.
| > | > We found blood soaked tissue and a stash of blades in three
different
| > | > places, a note she had written to someone about cutting but not sent
| > | > and a book called "cut" about a teenage girl in trouble. I won't go
in
| > | > to how we discovered all this.
| > | >
| > | > She was gone at a sleep over and is not home yet, we talked to a
| > | > counsler who said to let her know we know and take the blades. We
are
| > | > going to start her in therapy next week.
| > | >
| > | > I am devastated - I don't know how to handle this - how to help her.
I
| > | > don't know what is troubling her so much. Maria keeps intense
| > feelings
| > | > locked down, repressed, and I don't have the key to unlock them to
| > give
| > | > her relief.
| > | >
| > | > I am going to suggest to her that she posts here and if she does I
am
| > | > going to promise her to not read ASD and let her have a place. I
KNOW
| > | > this place is usually always adults, but there are many many people
| > | > here I know from the years who I trust to perhaps engage with her in
a
| > | > helpful manner. So, if you all see a young teen show up (I don't
know
| > | > name she'd use perhaps GCjunkie (Good Charlotte Junkie) please try
to
| > | > talk with her.
| > | >
| > | > I think this is all my fault . . .I was so so so sick with John and
| > | > after he left, for two years I was nearly comatose (sp?)
| > | > unable to speak, walk, shower, hear noises (radio,
birds,conversation
| > | > anything) in a bed with no sheets and not luicid when I did mumble.
| > | > Marai needed me and I wasn't there and worse than that she was
exposed
| > | > to an insane mother. Gawd! I don't know how to help her . . . if
any
| > | > cutters read please tell me today what you reccommend for the mother
| > to
| > | > do.
| > | >
| > | > Rosena
| > | >
| > |
| > | I'd suggest not telling us who she is, you never know who might have
an
| > axe
| > | to grind with you and take it out on her. You also never know who
would
| > | start talking ***** about you just to wind her up.
| > |
| > | I've never understood cutting.
| > |
| > | If she uses her own nick (that you don't know) as well you both could
| > read
| > | ASD and not know who each other are.
| > |
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: @ Important - Maria - Spoiler (Cutting) @ |
08 Oct 2005 03:00:39 PM |
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I don't have kids, but if I did I would certainly have them schooled in
internet paranoia. Just because they don't know about newsgroups, web
discussion forums abound (and a lot of them just rip off our posts here to
make it look like they have an active bulletin board).
This is just one tiny corner of the internet and it's ceratinly not the only
place you'll find the Bad People.
"sortalily" <still@here.nnetttt> wrote in message
news:hZ6dnU0QIJ8og9XeRVn-1A@rcn.net...
no i'm not 14. but come on franz .. would you suggest your kid post here?
with people like marty and other trolls? there were some teens who used
to
post here and were prime targets for pedophiles.
i wouldn't my my daughter to post her thoughts on a group with adults. a
teen or preteen is just to vunerable.
just my 2cetns.
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3qqku9Fg590hU1@individual.net...
| says you, but we all know you're 14
|
| "sortalily" <still@here.nnetttt> wrote in message
| news:sN2dnVMIGesngdXenZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@rcn.net...
| > kids should not be posting here.
| >
| > "Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:3qqjhvFd4qm5U1@individual.net...
| > |
| > | "Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
| > | news:1128796990.930368.92440@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| > | >
| > | > I just discoverd last night with Maria's father that Maria is
cutting.
| > | > We found blood soaked tissue and a stash of blades in three
different
| > | > places, a note she had written to someone about cutting but not
sent
| > | > and a book called "cut" about a teenage girl in trouble. I won't
go
in
| > | > to how we discovered all this.
| > | >
| > | > She was gone at a sleep over and is not home yet, we talked to a
| > | > counsler who said to let her know we know and take the blades. We
are
| > | > going to start her in therapy next week.
| > | >
| > | > I am devastated - I don't know how to handle this - how to help
her.
I
| > | > don't know what is troubling her so much. Maria keeps intense
| > feelings
| > | > locked down, repressed, and I don't have the key to unlock them to
| > give
| > | > her relief.
| > | >
| > | > I am going to suggest to her that she posts here and if she does I
am
| > | > going to promise her to not read ASD and let her have a place. I
KNOW
| > | > this place is usually always adults, but there are many many
people
| > | > here I know from the years who I trust to perhaps engage with her
in
a
| > | > helpful manner. So, if you all see a young teen show up (I don't
know
| > | > name she'd use perhaps GCjunkie (Good Charlotte Junkie) please try
to
| > | > talk with her.
| > | >
| > | > I think this is all my fault . . .I was so so so sick with John
and
| > | > after he left, for two years I was nearly comatose (sp?)
| > | > unable to speak, walk, shower, hear noises (radio,
birds,conversation
| > | > anything) in a bed with no sheets and not luicid when I did
mumble.
| > | > Marai needed me and I wasn't there and worse than that she was
exposed
| > | > to an insane mother. Gawd! I don't know how to help her . . . if
any
| > | > cutters read please tell me today what you reccommend for the
mother
| > to
| > | > do.
| > | >
| > | > Rosena
| > | >
| > |
| > | I'd suggest not telling us who she is, you never know who might have
an
| > axe
| > | to grind with you and take it out on her. You also never know who
would
| > | start talking ***** about you just to wind her up.
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| > | I've never understood cutting.
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| > | If she uses her own nick (that you don't know) as well you both
could
| > read
| > | ASD and not know who each other are.
| > |
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| User: "sortalily" |
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| Title: Re: @ Important - Maria - Spoiler (Cutting) @ |
08 Oct 2005 05:24:32 PM |
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i know that. i think suggesting to a CHILD she find support on the internet
just bad bad advice.
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3qqmr6Fg33vaU1@individual.net...
|I don't have kids, but if I did I would certainly have them schooled in
| internet paranoia. Just because they don't know about newsgroups, web
| discussion forums abound (and a lot of them just rip off our posts here to
| make it look like they have an active bulletin board).
|
| This is just one tiny corner of the internet and it's ceratinly not the
only
| place you'll find the Bad People.
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| "sortalily" <still@here.nnetttt> wrote in message
| news:hZ6dnU0QIJ8og9XeRVn-1A@rcn.net...
| > no i'm not 14. but come on franz .. would you suggest your kid post
here?
| > with people like marty and other trolls? there were some teens who
used
| > to
| > post here and were prime targets for pedophiles.
| > i wouldn't my my daughter to post her thoughts on a group with adults.
a
| > teen or preteen is just to vunerable.
| >
| > just my 2cetns.
| >
| >
| > "Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:3qqku9Fg590hU1@individual.net...
| > | says you, but we all know you're 14
| > |
| > | "sortalily" <still@here.nnetttt> wrote in message
| > | news:sN2dnVMIGesngdXenZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@rcn.net...
| > | > kids should not be posting here.
| > | >
| > | > "Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:3qqjhvFd4qm5U1@individual.net...
| > | > |
| > | > | "Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
| > | > | news:1128796990.930368.92440@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| > | > | >
| > | > | > I just discoverd last night with Maria's father that Maria is
| > cutting.
| > | > | > We found blood soaked tissue and a stash of blades in three
| > different
| > | > | > places, a note she had written to someone about cutting but not
| > sent
| > | > | > and a book called "cut" about a teenage girl in trouble. I won't
| > go
| > in
| > | > | > to how we discovered all this.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > She was gone at a sleep over and is not home yet, we talked to a
| > | > | > counsler who said to let her know we know and take the blades.
We
| > are
| > | > | > going to start her in therapy next week.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > I am devastated - I don't know how to handle this - how to help
| > her.
| > I
| > | > | > don't know what is troubling her so much. Maria keeps intense
| > | > feelings
| > | > | > locked down, repressed, and I don't have the key to unlock them
to
| > | > give
| > | > | > her relief.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > I am going to suggest to her that she posts here and if she does
I
| > am
| > | > | > going to promise her to not read ASD and let her have a place. I
| > KNOW
| > | > | > this place is usually always adults, but there are many many
| > people
| > | > | > here I know from the years who I trust to perhaps engage with
her
| > in
| > a
| > | > | > helpful manner. So, if you all see a young teen show up (I
don't
| > know
| > | > | > name she'd use perhaps GCjunkie (Good Charlotte Junkie) please
try
| > to
| > | > | > talk with her.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > I think this is all my fault . . .I was so so so sick with John
| > and
| > | > | > after he left, for two years I was nearly comatose (sp?)
| > | > | > unable to speak, walk, shower, hear noises (radio,
| > birds,conversation
| > | > | > anything) in a bed with no sheets and not luicid when I did
| > mumble.
| > | > | > Marai needed me and I wasn't there and worse than that she was
| > exposed
| > | > | > to an insane mother. Gawd! I don't know how to help her . . .
if
| > any
| > | > | > cutters read please tell me today what you reccommend for the
| > mother
| > | > to
| > | > | > do.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Rosena
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > | I'd suggest not telling us who she is, you never know who might
have
| > an
| > | > axe
| > | > | to grind with you and take it out on her. You also never know who
| > would
| > | > | start talking ***** about you just to wind her up.
| > | > |
| > | > | I've never understood cutting.
| > | > |
| > | > | If she uses her own nick (that you don't know) as well you both
| > could
| > | > read
| > | > | ASD and not know who each other are.
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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| Title: Re: @ Important - Maria - Spoiler (Cutting) @ |
08 Oct 2005 07:19:44 PM |
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sortalily wrote...
i know that. i think suggesting to a CHILD she find
support on the internet just bad bad advice.
there's a very good british site for self-harmers. moderated,
and only by subscription. they do a very good job there, and
it's the safest site for teens i've seen.
i joined for a short while, but stopped si'ing, and dropped it.
-lisa
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| User: "Contrarian" |
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| Title: Re: @ Important - Maria - Spoiler (Cutting) @ |
09 Oct 2005 07:44:33 AM |
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lisa in mass. <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
sortalily wrote...
there's a very good british site for self-harmers. moderated,
and only by subscription. they do a very good job there, and
it's the safest site for teens i've seen.
that's a thought.
--
but the edge is still Out there. Or maybe it's In... HST (1967)
when i got to the edge , i built a deck % (2005)
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| User: "sortalily" |
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| Title: Re: @ Important - Maria - Spoiler (Cutting) @ |
08 Oct 2005 07:21:55 PM |
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okay yea that would be safer, and might help. but a teen who is cutting is
in a weakend state and open prey to all kinds of sickos on wide open usenet
..
a moderated site would be a much better choice.
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96E9CEBE79C4Bmccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
| sortalily wrote...
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| > i know that. i think suggesting to a CHILD she find
| > support on the internet just bad bad advice.
|
| there's a very good british site for self-harmers. moderated,
| and only by subscription. they do a very good job there, and
| it's the safest site for teens i've seen.
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| i joined for a short while, but stopped si'ing, and dropped it.
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| -lisa
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