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"elegy" |
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17 Sep 2004 02:33:16 PM |
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***** it all. (rats. euthanasia. very long.) |
it's been a horrendously suckworthy week.
last friday night i got up and chewie my nekkid rat with the ear
infection was rolling. the infection had moved to his inner ear and
was messing up his equilibrium. i started him on steroid in the hopes
it would cut the inflammation. nothin doing. nothing helped him.
wednesday night i put him and his brother to sleep together. they were
so closely bonded that it was the only fair thing to do. they'll be
cremated together.
(that night at work was followed by an emergency splenectomy of a dog.
they ended up putting the dog to sleep anyway as it was bleeding
internally and they couldn't stop it, and it had cancer all through
its liver. the owners came in at 1 am to put the dog down. the other
tech left at 1:30. one doctor at 2am. the other at 4. one hell of a
night.)
thursday my rat suzie was emergency spayed because she escaped and got
it on with my badass siamese rat and there is just no way i could
handle and/or rehome a dozen eepers. vet called me in the middle of
the afternoon to tell me her lungs sounded bad, did i still want to do
the surgery. i said yes. she did the surgery. it went fine but only
time will tell how her lungs do.
this morning my andrew squish rat who developed pneumonia two weeks
ago but was improving on meds started gasping for air and open-mouth
breathing. i rushed him to the vet (with no warning... surprise!)
i beat her there by about fifteen seconds. i got out of the car and
was crying. she opened her car door, said "what's wrong?" i said
"andrew can't breathe" and she got out and just hugged me and i
bawled. i don't know why such simple things as kindness make me lose
it completely, but they do.
i ended up putting him to sleep, which breaks my heart. he was so
young. only 15 months. far too young to die. and so suddenly. and so
harshly. his lungs were just scarred to hell, but i don't know why. we
could have prolonged his life for a bit, but i couldn't go through
that. i watched jon struggle to breathe and i know he suffered at the
end. i couldn't put andrew through that. i couldn't.
so he's gone, too. and i am just heartbroken and devestated and all
that stuff. i am embarrassed by all my bawling at work. two of the
vets hugged me and hugged me but all the techs just vanished. it's
better that way but i feel so alienated.
i need to go to bed. my head hurts. my heart hurts. it's way past my
bedtime. i'm exhausted. i don't know what to do with myself. i'm
scared the rest of my rats are going to get sick. i'm scared the
poodle is going to crash out of nowhere just because that's how things
are going. i'm scared my little girl rat is going to have a bad
reaction to her sutures from her spay and turn into one big abscessy
mess the way bob did. i'm just scared.
i want to drug myself into oblivion but i can't even do that because i
have to be up in four hours to give the dog her meds.
i just fucking give up already.
---
Now everybody do the propaganda.
And sing along in the age of paranoia.(green day)
http://shattering.org
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| User: "Filpriros" |
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| Title: Re: ***** it all. (rats. euthanasia. very long.) |
17 Sep 2004 05:00:07 PM |
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Oh sweetie,
I am so sorry -- it is hard to lose these little creatures, I bet really hard
for they are so much a part of your "family" for you.
Thinking of you and hoping all the other rats stay healthy.
Rosena
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| User: "elegy" |
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| Title: Re: ***** it all. (rats. euthanasia. very long.) |
17 Sep 2004 09:00:54 PM |
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On 17 Sep 2004 22:00:07 GMT, (Filpriros) wrote:
Oh sweetie,
I am so sorry -- it is hard to lose these little creatures, I bet really hard
for they are so much a part of your "family" for you.
Thinking of you and hoping all the other rats stay healthy.
it's hard. chewie with his ear infection not so much hard as just sad,
as he was old and had a good life. his brother was a hard decision
because really he could have lived longer, but i just felt it wasn't
fair because he was SO closely bonded to his brother. but they were
old. it's easier when they're old.
andrew was just a baby, really. he should have had another year left.
he is by far the youngest rat i've lost. i know there is stuff we
could have done (steroid injection, bronchodialators, oxygen cage) but
what kind of quality of life is that?
:-(
---
Now everybody do the propaganda.
And sing along in the age of paranoia.(green day)
http://shattering.org
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| User: "=^.^=" |
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18 Sep 2004 03:40:13 AM |
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On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:33:16 -0400, elegy <elegy@shattering.org>
wrote:
it's been a horrendously suckworthy week.
<clip>
i want to drug myself into oblivion but i can't even do that because i
have to be up in four hours to give the dog her meds.
sometimes our responsibilities get us thru *****
and steer us in directions to better incidents...
i just fucking give up already.
I cleaned-out the mailbox today. nobody else even thinks
to do it anymore. what there was for me was one good
thing: $8 more in my food ration. I'm also offered a Work
Ticket and job networking to raise my standard of life...
well, a logistics officer said the work I've been observed
doing normally goes for $100K/yr. with excellent nbenefits
I'd settle for half that, since one of the reasons I was put
on disability was the condition they called progressive
decompensation. they also know I won't get clearances
needed to do a lot of the work that pays well. just knowing
me is sufficient to disqualify someone from certain work...
and my m-docs' clinic doesn't accept Medicaide anymore
they say it is because of the economic realities; it is true
they are the only ones who have dared to write the scripts
I've been on for ten years. the p-doc ain't worth skwat and
is rather depressiong with aversions and obvious issues
I still won't give up. I've battled physical and virtual odds
and prevailed, altho it hurts sometimes; always a price...
but I'm still kicking it and my resolve isn't flattened
don't give up, lady. you have come this far, and can go-on...
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| User: "elegy" |
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| Title: Re: ***** it all. (rats. euthanasia. very long.) |
18 Sep 2004 01:36:14 PM |
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 08:40:13 GMT, =^.^= <=^.^=@=^.^=> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:33:16 -0400, elegy <elegy@shattering.org>
wrote:
it's been a horrendously suckworthy week.
<clip>
i want to drug myself into oblivion but i can't even do that because i
have to be up in four hours to give the dog her meds.
sometimes our responsibilities get us thru *****
and steer us in directions to better incidents...
yeah. routine is good. siren gets her meds like clockwork even when i
don't feel like it because i know she *has* to and that her life and
well-being depends on it. it's stabilizing somehow.
i just fucking give up already.
I cleaned-out the mailbox today. nobody else even thinks
to do it anymore. what there was for me was one good
thing: $8 more in my food ration. I'm also offered a Work
Ticket and job networking to raise my standard of life...
well, a logistics officer said the work I've been observed
doing normally goes for $100K/yr. with excellent nbenefits
I'd settle for half that, since one of the reasons I was put
on disability was the condition they called progressive
decompensation. they also know I won't get clearances
needed to do a lot of the work that pays well. just knowing
me is sufficient to disqualify someone from certain work...
and my m-docs' clinic doesn't accept Medicaide anymore
they say it is because of the economic realities; it is true
they are the only ones who have dared to write the scripts
I've been on for ten years. the p-doc ain't worth skwat and
is rather depressiong with aversions and obvious issues
I still won't give up. I've battled physical and virtual odds
and prevailed, altho it hurts sometimes; always a price...
but I'm still kicking it and my resolve isn't flattened
don't give up, lady. you have come this far, and can go-on...
geez. all the crap you're going through is humbling. i'm not giving
up, i'm just temporarily heartbroken. owning pets can be so wonderful
and such hell.
---
Now everybody do the propaganda.
And sing along in the age of paranoia.(green day)
http://shattering.org
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| User: "=^.^=" |
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19 Sep 2004 02:50:17 AM |
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 14:36:14 -0400, elegy <elegy@shattering.org>
wrote:
sometimes our responsibilities get us thru *****
and steer us in directions to better incidents...
yeah. routine is good. siren gets her meds like clockwork even when i
don't feel like it because i know she *has* to and that her life and
well-being depends on it. it's stabilizing somehow.
yep. when Sammy wants his eyes cleaned-out (pollution)
I'll do it even tho my psyche feels like *****, I'll do it 4 him
it makes me feel better. not quite like giving a lover a
rubdown with oil (almond usually) but it's the same idea
i just fucking give up already.
muuurrr
geez. all the crap you're going through is humbling. i'm not giving
up, i'm just temporarily heartbroken. owning pets can be so wonderful
and such hell.
same as people. do not do the "humbling" thing. not
something you need to do. you have had experiences
that no-one should even have to concieve of, let-alone
bear. I just had a wave of future reality swish over me
sort-of on the level of having a lover remind me that she
will be leaving and that time is coming very very close...
sort-of? it is. but itz ok. it's already in bittersweet-land
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| User: "Whiskers" |
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| Title: Re: ***** it all. (rats. euthanasia. very long.) |
18 Sep 2004 09:13:39 AM |
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On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:33:16 -0400, elegy wrote:
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i just fucking give up already.
Love hurts :(( and you give so much of it.
Whiskery Hugs {{{{{Elegy}}}}}
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-- Whiskers
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| User: "elegy" |
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18 Sep 2004 01:36:34 PM |
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:13:39 +0100, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:33:16 -0400, elegy wrote:
snip
i just fucking give up already.
Love hurts :(( and you give so much of it.
Whiskery Hugs {{{{{Elegy}}}}}
and i get so much in return.
thanks whiskers.
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Now everybody do the propaganda.
And sing along in the age of paranoia.(green day)
http://shattering.org
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| User: "=^.^=" |
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19 Sep 2004 02:24:34 AM |
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:13:39 +0100, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:33:16 -0400, elegy wrote:
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i just fucking give up already.
Love hurts :(( and you give so much of it.
Whiskery Hugs {{{{{Elegy}}}}}
itza hurt that is at a minum tolerable, and a hurt
that lets us know that we are still feeling and alive
I don't mind it. it's bitterweet stuff, not caustic
I know it's something I have to look forward to
I just rather not have the bitter part
and I rather be comfortable, too...
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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17 Sep 2004 11:08:00 PM |
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elegy wrote...
it's been a horrendously suckworthy week.
last friday night i got up and chewie my nekkid rat with
the ear infection was rolling. the infection had moved to
his inner ear and was messing up his equilibrium. i started
him on steroid in the hopes it would cut the inflammation.
nothin doing. nothing helped him.
wednesday night i put him and his brother to sleep
together. they were so closely bonded that it was the only
fair thing to do. they'll be cremated together.
(that night at work was followed by an emergency
splenectomy of a dog. they ended up putting the dog to
sleep anyway as it was bleeding internally and they
couldn't stop it, and it had cancer all through its liver.
the owners came in at 1 am to put the dog down. the other
tech left at 1:30. one doctor at 2am. the other at 4. one
hell of a night.)
thursday my rat suzie was emergency spayed because she
escaped and got it on with my badass siamese rat and there
is just no way i could handle and/or rehome a dozen eepers.
vet called me in the middle of the afternoon to tell me her
lungs sounded bad, did i still want to do the surgery. i
said yes. she did the surgery. it went fine but only time
will tell how her lungs do.
this morning my andrew squish rat who developed pneumonia
two weeks ago but was improving on meds started gasping for
air and open-mouth breathing. i rushed him to the vet (with
no warning... surprise!)
i beat her there by about fifteen seconds. i got out of the
car and was crying. she opened her car door, said "what's
wrong?" i said "andrew can't breathe" and she got out and
just hugged me and i bawled. i don't know why such simple
things as kindness make me lose it completely, but they do.
i ended up putting him to sleep, which breaks my heart. he
was so young. only 15 months. far too young to die. and so
suddenly. and so harshly. his lungs were just scarred to
hell, but i don't know why. we could have prolonged his
life for a bit, but i couldn't go through that. i watched
jon struggle to breathe and i know he suffered at the end.
i couldn't put andrew through that. i couldn't.
so he's gone, too. and i am just heartbroken and devestated
and all that stuff. i am embarrassed by all my bawling at
work. two of the vets hugged me and hugged me but all the
techs just vanished. it's better that way but i feel so
alienated.
i need to go to bed. my head hurts. my heart hurts. it's
way past my bedtime. i'm exhausted. i don't know what to do
with myself. i'm scared the rest of my rats are going to
get sick. i'm scared the poodle is going to crash out of
nowhere just because that's how things are going. i'm
scared my little girl rat is going to have a bad reaction
to her sutures from her spay and turn into one big abscessy
mess the way bob did. i'm just scared.
i want to drug myself into oblivion but i can't even do
that because i have to be up in four hours to give the dog
her meds.
i just fucking give up already.
oh,elegy. what a terrible week. i wish the rest of your babies
long, healthy lives. and some peace for their mommy.
-lisa
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| User: "elegy" |
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18 Sep 2004 01:33:34 PM |
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On 18 Sep 2004 04:08:00 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
oh,elegy. what a terrible week. i wish the rest of your babies
long, healthy lives. and some peace for their mommy.
it's weird the way it goes in surges. back in april i lost two rats
and my parents' cocker in the space of a week. then everything was
good until this week.
strange.
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Now everybody do the propaganda.
And sing along in the age of paranoia.(green day)
http://shattering.org
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| User: "harakiri" |
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17 Sep 2004 05:40:29 PM |
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i can empathize. i reacted the same way when my catfish died. he was no
less significant than any other animal.
"elegy" <elegy@shattering.org> wrote in message
news:j4emk0pvuqgjsql2sro78uksp49mruibod@4ax.com...
it's been a horrendously suckworthy week.
last friday night i got up and chewie my nekkid rat with the ear
infection was rolling. the infection had moved to his inner ear and
was messing up his equilibrium. i started him on steroid in the hopes
it would cut the inflammation. nothin doing. nothing helped him.
wednesday night i put him and his brother to sleep together. they were
so closely bonded that it was the only fair thing to do. they'll be
cremated together.
(that night at work was followed by an emergency splenectomy of a dog.
they ended up putting the dog to sleep anyway as it was bleeding
internally and they couldn't stop it, and it had cancer all through
its liver. the owners came in at 1 am to put the dog down. the other
tech left at 1:30. one doctor at 2am. the other at 4. one hell of a
night.)
thursday my rat suzie was emergency spayed because she escaped and got
it on with my badass siamese rat and there is just no way i could
handle and/or rehome a dozen eepers. vet called me in the middle of
the afternoon to tell me her lungs sounded bad, did i still want to do
the surgery. i said yes. she did the surgery. it went fine but only
time will tell how her lungs do.
this morning my andrew squish rat who developed pneumonia two weeks
ago but was improving on meds started gasping for air and open-mouth
breathing. i rushed him to the vet (with no warning... surprise!)
i beat her there by about fifteen seconds. i got out of the car and
was crying. she opened her car door, said "what's wrong?" i said
"andrew can't breathe" and she got out and just hugged me and i
bawled. i don't know why such simple things as kindness make me lose
it completely, but they do.
i ended up putting him to sleep, which breaks my heart. he was so
young. only 15 months. far too young to die. and so suddenly. and so
harshly. his lungs were just scarred to hell, but i don't know why. we
could have prolonged his life for a bit, but i couldn't go through
that. i watched jon struggle to breathe and i know he suffered at the
end. i couldn't put andrew through that. i couldn't.
so he's gone, too. and i am just heartbroken and devestated and all
that stuff. i am embarrassed by all my bawling at work. two of the
vets hugged me and hugged me but all the techs just vanished. it's
better that way but i feel so alienated.
i need to go to bed. my head hurts. my heart hurts. it's way past my
bedtime. i'm exhausted. i don't know what to do with myself. i'm
scared the rest of my rats are going to get sick. i'm scared the
poodle is going to crash out of nowhere just because that's how things
are going. i'm scared my little girl rat is going to have a bad
reaction to her sutures from her spay and turn into one big abscessy
mess the way bob did. i'm just scared.
i want to drug myself into oblivion but i can't even do that because i
have to be up in four hours to give the dog her meds.
i just fucking give up already.
---
Now everybody do the propaganda.
And sing along in the age of paranoia.(green day)
http://shattering.org
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| User: "elegy" |
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17 Sep 2004 08:58:16 PM |
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On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 22:40:29 GMT, "harakiri" <m.d.wittenberg@att.net>
wrote:
i can empathize. i reacted the same way when my catfish died. he was no
less significant than any other animal.
oh i know. my mom had something happen with her fishpond earlier in
the summer and all of her fish died. i think she had like six big
goldfish and three koi. she was just devestated. it was very sad.
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Now everybody do the propaganda.
And sing along in the age of paranoia.(green day)
http://shattering.org
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| User: "% surfs@uniserve" |
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17 Sep 2004 08:59:23 PM |
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i have three cat fish in my fish tank
and i hate when any of my fish die
"elegy" <elegy@shattering.org> wrote in message news:nf5nk0t8gt4iqs0d4l99102tq541479jpb@4ax.com...
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 22:40:29 GMT, "harakiri" <m.d.wittenberg@att.net>
wrote:
i can empathize. i reacted the same way when my catfish died. he was no
less significant than any other animal.
oh i know. my mom had something happen with her fishpond earlier in
the summer and all of her fish died. i think she had like six big
goldfish and three koi. she was just devestated. it was very sad.
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Now everybody do the propaganda.
And sing along in the age of paranoia.(green day)
http://shattering.org
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| User: "neoholistic" |
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17 Sep 2004 08:40:43 PM |
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x-no-archive: yes
Damn, this IS a horrible week. A few like this would be enough
to kill me. You must be bloody strong.
I'm sorry you had to see so many pets go. It must be so painful,
but if I was a vet I think I'd rather do it myself, too - as quickly
and painlessly as my skills would allow.
I'm sending good wishes in your direction.
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Please keep the 'x-no-archive: yes' header.
To reach me by email: transform my account name like IBM -> HAL.
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| User: "elegy" |
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17 Sep 2004 09:00:48 PM |
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 03:40:43 +0200, neoholistic <ekqbwpo@terra.es>
wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
Damn, this IS a horrible week. A few like this would be enough
to kill me. You must be bloody strong.
I'm sorry you had to see so many pets go. It must be so painful,
but if I was a vet I think I'd rather do it myself, too - as quickly
and painlessly as my skills would allow.
I'm sending good wishes in your direction.
we did it as painlessly as possible. the problem with rats are that
they're so small that to give the injection, you have to give it in
the heart (well, you can give it in the stomach, but it takes
forever). so we put little gas masks over their faces and anesthetize
them with gas first. so they're asleep when they go. it's the only
really humane way to do it, but it really sucks.
---
Now everybody do the propaganda.
And sing along in the age of paranoia.(green day)
http://shattering.org
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| User: "" |
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18 Sep 2004 12:03:43 PM |
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On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 22:00:48 -0400, elegy <elegy@shattering.org>
wrote:
<(((*> we did it as painlessly as possible. the problem with rats are that
<(((*> they're so small that to give the injection, you have to give it in
<(((*> the heart (well, you can give it in the stomach, but it takes
<(((*> forever). so we put little gas masks over their faces and anesthetize
<(((*> them with gas first. so they're asleep when they go. it's the only
<(((*> really humane way to do it, but it really sucks.
That's what the vet did for my little hedgehog when it was her
time to go.
I know how it sucks. I'm sorry you've lost so many furbabies all
at once.
Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
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| User: "elegy" |
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18 Sep 2004 01:31:46 PM |
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:03:43 -0400, waitingforgodot@samuel.beckett
wrote:
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 22:00:48 -0400, elegy <elegy@shattering.org>
wrote:
<(((*> we did it as painlessly as possible. the problem with rats are that
<(((*> they're so small that to give the injection, you have to give it in
<(((*> the heart (well, you can give it in the stomach, but it takes
<(((*> forever). so we put little gas masks over their faces and anesthetize
<(((*> them with gas first. so they're asleep when they go. it's the only
<(((*> really humane way to do it, but it really sucks.
That's what the vet did for my little hedgehog when it was her
time to go.
I know how it sucks. I'm sorry you've lost so many furbabies all
at once.
i was sad about the old guys but i'm just devestated about andrew
because he was so young and it was *so* completely unexpected.
the vet sent me flowers. she's such a sweetheart.
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And sing along in the age of paranoia.(green day)
http://shattering.org
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| User: "pannah" |
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17 Sep 2004 02:51:52 PM |
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your rats get a lot of lung problems it seems, what kind of bedding/litter
do you use? maybe you should try a different kind. oils in wood and such can
cause lung problems in little animals, so definately don't use any wood
shaving bedding and carefree newspaper recycling stuff can also cause lung
problems from ink and dust.
sorry about your babies. it's so hard to deal with I'm sure.
"elegy" <elegy@shattering.org> wrote in message
news:j4emk0pvuqgjsql2sro78uksp49mruibod@4ax.com...
it's been a horrendously suckworthy week.
last friday night i got up and chewie my nekkid rat with the ear
infection was rolling. the infection had moved to his inner ear and
was messing up his equilibrium. i started him on steroid in the hopes
it would cut the inflammation. nothin doing. nothing helped him.
wednesday night i put him and his brother to sleep together. they were
so closely bonded that it was the only fair thing to do. they'll be
cremated together.
(that night at work was followed by an emergency splenectomy of a dog.
they ended up putting the dog to sleep anyway as it was bleeding
internally and they couldn't stop it, and it had cancer all through
its liver. the owners came in at 1 am to put the dog down. the other
tech left at 1:30. one doctor at 2am. the other at 4. one hell of a
night.)
thursday my rat suzie was emergency spayed because she escaped and got
it on with my badass siamese rat and there is just no way i could
handle and/or rehome a dozen eepers. vet called me in the middle of
the afternoon to tell me her lungs sounded bad, did i still want to do
the surgery. i said yes. she did the surgery. it went fine but only
time will tell how her lungs do.
this morning my andrew squish rat who developed pneumonia two weeks
ago but was improving on meds started gasping for air and open-mouth
breathing. i rushed him to the vet (with no warning... surprise!)
i beat her there by about fifteen seconds. i got out of the car and
was crying. she opened her car door, said "what's wrong?" i said
"andrew can't breathe" and she got out and just hugged me and i
bawled. i don't know why such simple things as kindness make me lose
it completely, but they do.
i ended up putting him to sleep, which breaks my heart. he was so
young. only 15 months. far too young to die. and so suddenly. and so
harshly. his lungs were just scarred to hell, but i don't know why. we
could have prolonged his life for a bit, but i couldn't go through
that. i watched jon struggle to breathe and i know he suffered at the
end. i couldn't put andrew through that. i couldn't.
so he's gone, too. and i am just heartbroken and devestated and all
that stuff. i am embarrassed by all my bawling at work. two of the
vets hugged me and hugged me but all the techs just vanished. it's
better that way but i feel so alienated.
i need to go to bed. my head hurts. my heart hurts. it's way past my
bedtime. i'm exhausted. i don't know what to do with myself. i'm
scared the rest of my rats are going to get sick. i'm scared the
poodle is going to crash out of nowhere just because that's how things
are going. i'm scared my little girl rat is going to have a bad
reaction to her sutures from her spay and turn into one big abscessy
mess the way bob did. i'm just scared.
i want to drug myself into oblivion but i can't even do that because i
have to be up in four hours to give the dog her meds.
i just fucking give up already.
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Now everybody do the propaganda.
And sing along in the age of paranoia.(green day)
http://shattering.org
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| Title: Re: ***** it all. (rats. euthanasia. very long.) |
17 Sep 2004 09:00:52 PM |
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On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:51:52 GMT, "pannah" <pannah@earthlink.net>
wrote:
your rats get a lot of lung problems it seems, what kind of bedding/litter
do you use? maybe you should try a different kind. oils in wood and such can
cause lung problems in little animals, so definately don't use any wood
shaving bedding and carefree newspaper recycling stuff can also cause lung
problems from ink and dust.
sorry about your babies. it's so hard to deal with I'm sure.
actually they don't. he was only the second of 9 to die from
respiratory problems, which is pretty low in the grand scheme of
things. i use yesterday's news for them, or cloth bedding if they're
sick, so that shouldn't be the problem.
the two nekkids were both breathing fine.
rats are prone to respiratory problems. even more prone than to
tumors.
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And sing along in the age of paranoia.(green day)
http://shattering.org
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| User: "pannah" |
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| Title: Re: ***** it all. (rats. euthanasia. very long.) |
17 Sep 2004 09:42:21 PM |
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"elegy" <elegy@shattering.org> wrote in message
news:sm4nk0h8nir8581fsi6h03shocgh8kaqub@4ax.com...
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:51:52 GMT, "pannah" <pannah@earthlink.net>
wrote:
your rats get a lot of lung problems it seems, what kind of bedding/litter
do you use? maybe you should try a different kind. oils in wood and such
can
cause lung problems in little animals, so definately don't use any wood
shaving bedding and carefree newspaper recycling stuff can also cause lung
problems from ink and dust.
sorry about your babies. it's so hard to deal with I'm sure.
actually they don't. he was only the second of 9 to die from
respiratory problems, which is pretty low in the grand scheme of
things. i use yesterday's news for them, or cloth bedding if they're
sick, so that shouldn't be the problem.
the two nekkids were both breathing fine.
rats are prone to respiratory problems. even more prone than to
tumors.
aw, that's too bad. Their lungs must be so tiny. I hope you're other one's
get extra long rat lives.
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And sing along in the age of paranoia.(green day)
http://shattering.org
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