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25 Apr 2006 09:26:48 PM |
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@ Just Have to Say Somewhere @ |
I am expecting an email from John - long story, nothing good but heard
through my friend that in a "few days" he would be emailing me. I am
not planning to respond. I have told myself firmly not to respond no
matter how angry he makes me. I am trying not to think about it.
But . . . I am so angry, sometimes it just grips me by the throat.
Bascially it seems in life that I am a sucker for any man who knows how
to make a woman feel pretty, delicate, and precious and can do it with
some grace and style. In other words, I am a mark for any and all good
looking grifters. I am superficial.
I feel . . .at peace sometimes in a very tiny small safe world when I
am stressing over a subordinate subjunctive clause that contains also
an indirect statement and question . . .I feel a bit larger and still
safe when I send in edits to my publisher on a pretty okay article. My
little girl creeps into my bed and mumbles, "mommy your awesommee:" as
she drops to sleep (never tell her in morning she said "mommy"), and I
think, if I had stayed in my sex-pistol-scene-of-insanity with John as
we sought to imitate the lewdness of Byron, I would have lost her - my
girl who needs me.
Anyone seen Blue Angle? Old film. That is what John did to his
professor. But so the ***** what? Done. I want to fly again, I really
really do. I want to sniff at the mention of his name and then spin
off to Flash Dance in oblivion of the name I just heard. But the
physical exhaustion affects the spirit and the spirit is affected by
the heart and the heart is still shattered.
*****. If anyone would like to remind me that it is emotional suicide
(and potentially literal suicide) to respond to the Devil, please do
remind me. Silence. That is what leaves even a small chance at life
again: Silence damn it Rosena who is too dull and dense to EVER get it.
Rosena
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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| Title: Re: @ Just Have to Say Somewhere @ |
25 Apr 2006 10:43:11 PM |
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wrote...
I am expecting an email from John - long story, nothing
good but heard through my friend that in a "few days" he
would be emailing me. I am not planning to respond. I have
told myself firmly not to respond no matter how angry he
makes me. I am trying not to think about it.
But . . . I am so angry, sometimes it just grips me by the
throat. Bascially it seems in life that I am a sucker for
any man who knows how to make a woman feel pretty,
delicate, and precious and can do it with some grace and
style. In other words, I am a mark for any and all good
looking grifters. I am superficial.
I feel . . .at peace sometimes in a very tiny small safe
world when I am stressing over a subordinate subjunctive
clause that contains also an indirect statement and
question . . .I feel a bit larger and still safe when I
send in edits to my publisher on a pretty okay article. My
little girl creeps into my bed and mumbles, "mommy your
awesommee:" as she drops to sleep (never tell her in
morning she said "mommy"), and I think, if I had stayed in
my sex-pistol-scene-of-insanity with John as we sought to
imitate the lewdness of Byron, I would have lost her - my
girl who needs me.
Anyone seen Blue Angle? Old film. That is what John did to
his professor. But so the ***** what? Done. I want to fly
again, I really really do. I want to sniff at the mention
of his name and then spin off to Flash Dance in oblivion of
the name I just heard. But the physical exhaustion affects
the spirit and the spirit is affected by the heart and the
heart is still shattered.
*****. If anyone would like to remind me that it is
emotional suicide (and potentially literal suicide) to
respond to the Devil, please do remind me. Silence. That
is what leaves even a small chance at life again: Silence
damn it Rosena who is too dull and dense to EVER get it.
Rosena
you said it yourself better than i could. you know you can't
afford to write him back whatever he says. period.
don't let being sick cause you even more pain and exhaustion.
you know better.
-lisa
-lisa
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| User: "cal" |
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| Title: Re: @ Just Have to Say Somewhere @ |
26 Apr 2006 12:26:42 AM |
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<elystormbringer@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I am expecting an email from John - long story, nothing good but heard
through my friend that in a "few days" he would be emailing me. I am
not planning to respond. I have told myself firmly not to respond no
matter how angry he makes me. I am trying not to think about it.
while you're getting mad and depressed about it, you're still attached. your
heart can't mend while you're still attached. no point trying to put cart
before horse on this one. first you have to detach, then you can heal. it
doesn't work the other way around.
i don't know if there are practical reasons why there has to be
communication between you. if there aren't any, a complete break would be
best. block his email in such a way that it's deleted at the server, before
it's even transmitted to your computer. then there won't be anything for you
to be upset about, because you'll never see what he wrote. time does heal
these things, impossible as it seems at first, but only if we're good
patients and don't keep reinjuring ourselves.
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| User: "Nom dePlume nomdeplume1000-at-yahoo.com" |
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26 Apr 2006 01:38:22 AM |
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<elystormbringer@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1146018408.263022.175290@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
I am expecting an email from John - long story, nothing good but
heard
through my friend that in a "few days" he would be emailing me. I
am
not planning to respond. I have told myself firmly not to respond no
matter how angry he makes me. I am trying not to think about it.
But . . . I am so angry, sometimes it just grips me by the throat.
Bascially it seems in life that I am a sucker for any man who knows
how
to make a woman feel pretty, delicate, and precious and can do it
with
some grace and style. In other words, I am a mark for any and all
good
looking grifters. I am superficial.
You want a very normal, healthy type of human connection. There is
nothing wrong with what you want. You've had problems in making good
judgments about the character of men in your life who offer what feels
like a good connection. Hopefully your judgment has improved a lot
since then.
*****. If anyone would like to remind me that it is emotional
suicide
(and potentially literal suicide) to respond to the Devil, please do
remind me. Silence. That is what leaves even a small chance at life
again: Silence damn it Rosena who is too dull and dense to EVER get
it.
Don't respond. If you must know what he's writing, have a friend read
it and summarize it for you. You'll get the gist without the emotional
charge, and have less of an impulse to write back.
--
Nom dePlume, Ph.D.
Why, yes, in fact, I am a rocket scientist.
Guide to Medications for Mental Illness:
http://www.geocities.com/nomdeplume1000/
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| User: "Contrarian" |
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26 Apr 2006 12:05:33 AM |
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wrote:
I am expecting an email from John - long story, nothing good but heard
through my friend that in a "few days" he would be emailing me. I am
not planning to respond. I have told myself firmly not to respond no
matter how angry he makes me. I am trying not to think about it.
Detach, with an ax. Don't READ it let alone answer it.
"In part trauma repetition is an effort by the victim
to bring resolution to the traumatic memory. By repeating
the experience, the victim tries anew to figure out a way
to respond in order to eliminate the fear. Instead the
victim merely deepens the wound." Patrick Carnes's _ The
Betrayal Bond _
One maxim he quotes: No more football (The Peanuts
scenario with Charlie and Lucy) Don't play the game.
Don't go out on the field even.
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but the edge is still Out there. Or maybe it's In... HST (1967)
when i got to the edge , i built a deck % (2005)
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| User: "" |
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28 Apr 2006 07:40:07 PM |
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Contrarian . . . . I want to give you a hot meal and let you use my
shower! I read. But it is over now again. Hard to believe this has
been going on for a decade. . . ah well. Perhaps we are both finally
moving on, or I am at least. I am okay btw, just a bit shocked that I
am okay - weird this thing called life.
Rosena
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| User: "%" |
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25 Apr 2006 10:36:48 PM |
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But . . . I am so angry, sometimes it just grips me by the throat.
Bascially it seems in life that I am a sucker for any man who knows how
to make a woman feel pretty, delicate, and precious and can do it with
some grace and style. In other words, I am a mark for any and all good
looking grifters. I am superficial.
hi
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| User: "Violet" |
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26 Apr 2006 01:27:29 AM |
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Can't offer any advice, but you know the score, so do what you know you
have to.
BTW "subordinate subjunctive clause that contains also
an indirect statement and question" if you know that (whatever it is?)
you should easily be able to deal with a John.
Take care ;-( Violet
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| User: "" |
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25 Apr 2006 11:41:40 PM |
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Rosena,
My unsolicited advice? Don't read it. Just delete it without looking at
it. It can only hurt you.
Bobbie
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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26 Apr 2006 10:57:10 AM |
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<crysalis7@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Rosena,
My unsolicited advice? Don't read it. Just delete it without looking at
it. It can only hurt you.
Bobbie
Bobbie is right. Recently I found myself having to do the same thing and it
was better for everyone that I did. Trust me. You don't want to know what
it says. Just trash it unread.
--
Rhiannon
rhianon@sympatico.ca
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| User: "%" |
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26 Apr 2006 10:14:46 AM |
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"Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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<crysalis7@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1146026500.382155.258800@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Rosena,
My unsolicited advice? Don't read it. Just delete it without looking at
it. It can only hurt you.
Bobbie
Bobbie is right. Recently I found myself having to do the same thing and
it
was better for everyone that I did. Trust me. You don't want to know
what
it says. Just trash it unread.
--
Rhiannon
rhianon@sympatico.ca
i wanted to say this too ,
but she never reads or answers me so why bother trying to help her
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| User: "cal" |
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26 Apr 2006 10:28:55 AM |
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"Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:6TL3g.1442$1V4.112201@news20.bellglobal.com...
<crysalis7@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1146026500.382155.258800@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Rosena,
My unsolicited advice? Don't read it. Just delete it without looking at
it. It can only hurt you.
Bobbie
Bobbie is right. Recently I found myself having to do the same thing and
it was better for everyone that I did. Trust me. You don't want to know
what it says. Just trash it unread.
unusual to see such consensus... i guess we've all been there at one time or
another. i know i learned the hard way, and more than once.
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| User: "" |
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28 Apr 2006 04:18:09 PM |
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I am not suprised to consensus - everyone here who knows me, knows John
is bad news. Well he and I are back to sullen spiteful silence. Its
over. I have to understand, like small children do when they grow up
from abuse, that there is no going back and "fixing" it.
We all learn "the hard way" eh??
Best
Rosena
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| User: "cal" |
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28 Apr 2006 05:37:08 PM |
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<elystormbringer@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I am not suprised to consensus - everyone here who knows me, knows John
is bad news. Well he and I are back to sullen spiteful silence. Its
over. I have to understand, like small children do when they grow up
from abuse, that there is no going back and "fixing" it.
it's not over when it's "sullen spiteful silence." that's the
post-relationship relationship, or one way of having it. there are
others, none of them good.
We all learn "the hard way" eh??
i guess so. that's how i do it, and i'm sorry you have to be doing it. there
oughta be a better way.
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