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User: "Rosena"
Date: 13 Mar 2006 09:41:07 PM
Object: @ Okay! What's Up Folks?? @
I HATE tracing manuscript reception. I am too literary for such tedious
work (I am an *****.)
HELLLOOOOOOO World - out there??
Rosena
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User: "Contrarian"

Title: Re: @ Okay! What's Up Folks?? @ 14 Mar 2006 09:46:25 AM
Rosena <filpriros@aol.com> wrote:


I HATE tracing manuscript reception. I am too literary for such tedious
work (I am an *****.)


as "the earliest mss is that of Somewhere, etc.?"

HELLLOOOOOOO World - out there??

am trying to get through the cruft that's accumulated here.
on your earlier post: there's a newsgroup: news:humanties.classics
where some of your queries might be understood.
--
but the edge is still Out there. Or maybe it's In... HST (1967)
when i got to the edge , i built a deck % (2005)
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User: "Tim Kett"

Title: Re: @ Okay! What's Up Folks?? @ 13 Mar 2006 09:47:35 PM
Rosena wrote:

I HATE tracing manuscript reception. I am too literary for such tedious
work (I am an *****.)

HELLLOOOOOOO World - out there??

Rosena

I got a question. Why do you like OLD law? And do you ever surf Lexis
and/or Westlaw? I guess I am just not much interested in ancient
history.
.
User: "Rosena"

Title: Re: @ Okay! What's Up Folks?? @ 13 Mar 2006 10:03:57 PM
Hi Tim,
Well this will be longer than you like probably but here it is:
I love "modern" law and that is what I teach along with legal history
and philosophy of law. I use Westlaw and indeed I am published in the
normal law reviews on Westlaw.
But my interests are in philosphy of law. For example, "what is law?"
Is it only a legislated rule? Not for most of civlization. It is
custom. And if custom, what makes law obligatory? Force? Virtue?
Commitment? When should you respect the law of another polity? Do you
carry law with you as a birthright? (think about how we think of
Constitution). Where is room for mercy in law?
Is mercy only private or may it be public (think pardon power of
executive). Is law something created by humans or something always
there that we are born into? How do rules set me free? (Think, without
knowing rules of grammar, syntext, sentence structure, you are not free
to write). Should we follow a "legal" law that is immoral? If not, is
law proper really about morals rather than legality? And so forth . .
.. .
So these and a millon other questions (including the nature of evil,
and most important the ethical justifications for punishment or no
punishment) drive me to philosphy. So I studied continental philosophy
for about six years along with law degree. And in the last five years I
have turned to history.
Why? I am a conservative intellectually. So I have deep respect for my
forebearers - for those who formed the western European tradition of
thought and pondered these hard hard questions.
I go far far back to see what they said about this mysterious word
"law" which we all think we know what it means, but when put to it,
most of can't articulate our thoughts.
Like love, we take it for granted. Basically I am IN LOVE with law,
and with the way the human condition has expreseed itself as something
heroic and grand from century to century through the deeds of brilliant
jurists, saints, warriors, artists, theologians, poets, and yeomen on
juries in the name of a "principle" they held dear - a Law.
Answer your question I hope?
Rosena
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: @ Okay! What's Up Folks?? @ 13 Mar 2006 10:10:34 PM
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User: "Tim Kett"

Title: Re: @ Okay! What's Up Folks?? @ 13 Mar 2006 11:19:50 PM
Rosena wrote:

Hi Tim,

Well this will be longer than you like probably but here it is:

I love "modern" law and that is what I teach along with legal history
and philosophy of law. I use Westlaw and indeed I am published in the
normal law reviews on Westlaw.

But my interests are in philosphy of law. For example, "what is law?"
Is it only a legislated rule? Not for most of civlization. It is
custom. And if custom, what makes law obligatory? Force? Virtue?
Commitment? When should you respect the law of another polity? Do you
carry law with you as a birthright? (think about how we think of
Constitution). Where is room for mercy in law?
Is mercy only private or may it be public (think pardon power of
executive). Is law something created by humans or something always
there that we are born into? How do rules set me free? (Think, without
knowing rules of grammar, syntext, sentence structure, you are not free
to write). Should we follow a "legal" law that is immoral? If not, is
law proper really about morals rather than legality? And so forth . .
. .

So these and a millon other questions (including the nature of evil,
and most important the ethical justifications for punishment or no
punishment) drive me to philosphy. So I studied continental philosophy
for about six years along with law degree. And in the last five years I
have turned to history.

Why? I am a conservative intellectually. So I have deep respect for my
forebearers - for those who formed the western European tradition of
thought and pondered these hard hard questions.
I go far far back to see what they said about this mysterious word
"law" which we all think we know what it means, but when put to it,
most of can't articulate our thoughts.

Like love, we take it for granted. Basically I am IN LOVE with law,
and with the way the human condition has expreseed itself as something
heroic and grand from century to century through the deeds of brilliant
jurists, saints, warriors, artists, theologians, poets, and yeomen on
juries in the name of a "principle" they held dear - a Law.

Answer your question I hope?

Rosena

Yes :-) Your interests are mostly academic, while mine is mostly
finding loopholes and angles.
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: @ Okay! What's Up Folks?? @ 13 Mar 2006 11:21:40 PM
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User: "Tim Kett"

Title: Re: @ Okay! What's Up Folks?? @ 14 Mar 2006 12:58:49 AM
Rosena wrote:

Hi Tim,

Well this will be longer than you like probably but here it is:

I love "modern" law and that is what I teach along with legal history
and philosophy of law. I use Westlaw and indeed I am published in the
normal law reviews on Westlaw.

But my interests are in philosphy of law. For example, "what is law?"
Is it only a legislated rule? Not for most of civlization. It is
custom. And if custom, what makes law obligatory? Force? Virtue?
Commitment? When should you respect the law of another polity? Do you
carry law with you as a birthright? (think about how we think of
Constitution). Where is room for mercy in law?
Is mercy only private or may it be public (think pardon power of
executive). Is law something created by humans or something always
there that we are born into? How do rules set me free? (Think, without
knowing rules of grammar, syntext, sentence structure, you are not free
to write). Should we follow a "legal" law that is immoral? If not, is
law proper really about morals rather than legality? And so forth . .
. .

So these and a millon other questions (including the nature of evil,
and most important the ethical justifications for punishment or no
punishment) drive me to philosphy. So I studied continental philosophy
for about six years along with law degree. And in the last five years I
have turned to history.

Why? I am a conservative intellectually. So I have deep respect for my
forebearers - for those who formed the western European tradition of
thought and pondered these hard hard questions.
I go far far back to see what they said about this mysterious word
"law" which we all think we know what it means, but when put to it,
most of can't articulate our thoughts.

Like love, we take it for granted. Basically I am IN LOVE with law,
and with the way the human condition has expreseed itself as something
heroic and grand from century to century through the deeds of brilliant
jurists, saints, warriors, artists, theologians, poets, and yeomen on
juries in the name of a "principle" they held dear - a Law.

Answer your question I hope?

Rosena

Yes. You approach law study similar to the way I did with electronics -
all related fields to electronics along with it. I am just a self
taught newbie to law, looking up my first laws and cases about 15 years
ago. Then finally fed up with being told "you cant do Westlaw if you
are not a law student"(at the university), I joined the county law
library, where I research stuff faster now with the online databases
;-)
My goal is to be one of the best paralegals in the area some day, thats
all. Small goal, I know, but good enough for me, and I know I will be
happy doing it :-)
.
User: "Rosena"

Title: Re: @ Okay! What's Up Folks?? @ 14 Mar 2006 10:07:47 AM
Hi Tim,
That is how I started too - I wanted to be a paralegal and stop being a
bartender and here I am. I encourage you to consider law school. We
can talk about modern law when ever you like :). Read law reviews on
westlaw too! The database is JLR. look up a subject you are
interested in like crime and mens rea are whatever.
Best
Rosena
Tim Kett wrote:

Rosena wrote:

Hi Tim,

Well this will be longer than you like probably but here it is:

I love "modern" law and that is what I teach along with legal history
and philosophy of law. I use Westlaw and indeed I am published in the
normal law reviews on Westlaw.

But my interests are in philosphy of law. For example, "what is law?"
Is it only a legislated rule? Not for most of civlization. It is
custom. And if custom, what makes law obligatory? Force? Virtue?
Commitment? When should you respect the law of another polity? Do you
carry law with you as a birthright? (think about how we think of
Constitution). Where is room for mercy in law?
Is mercy only private or may it be public (think pardon power of
executive). Is law something created by humans or something always
there that we are born into? How do rules set me free? (Think, without
knowing rules of grammar, syntext, sentence structure, you are not free
to write). Should we follow a "legal" law that is immoral? If not, is
law proper really about morals rather than legality? And so forth . .
. .

So these and a millon other questions (including the nature of evil,
and most important the ethical justifications for punishment or no
punishment) drive me to philosphy. So I studied continental philosophy
for about six years along with law degree. And in the last five years I
have turned to history.

Why? I am a conservative intellectually. So I have deep respect for my
forebearers - for those who formed the western European tradition of
thought and pondered these hard hard questions.
I go far far back to see what they said about this mysterious word
"law" which we all think we know what it means, but when put to it,
most of can't articulate our thoughts.

Like love, we take it for granted. Basically I am IN LOVE with law,
and with the way the human condition has expreseed itself as something
heroic and grand from century to century through the deeds of brilliant
jurists, saints, warriors, artists, theologians, poets, and yeomen on
juries in the name of a "principle" they held dear - a Law.

Answer your question I hope?

Rosena


Yes. You approach law study similar to the way I did with electronics -
all related fields to electronics along with it. I am just a self
taught newbie to law, looking up my first laws and cases about 15 years
ago. Then finally fed up with being told "you cant do Westlaw if you
are not a law student"(at the university), I joined the county law
library, where I research stuff faster now with the online databases
;-)

My goal is to be one of the best paralegals in the area some day, thats
all. Small goal, I know, but good enough for me, and I know I will be
happy doing it :-)

.
User: "Tim Kett"

Title: Re: @ Okay! What's Up Folks?? @ 14 Mar 2006 09:06:43 PM
Thanks Rosena, I will look at it :-)
Rosena wrote:

Hi Tim,

That is how I started too - I wanted to be a paralegal and stop being a
bartender and here I am. I encourage you to consider law school. We
can talk about modern law when ever you like :). Read law reviews on
westlaw too! The database is JLR. look up a subject you are
interested in like crime and mens rea are whatever.

Best

Rosena


Tim Kett wrote:

Rosena wrote:

Hi Tim,

Well this will be longer than you like probably but here it is:

I love "modern" law and that is what I teach along with legal history
and philosophy of law. I use Westlaw and indeed I am published in the
normal law reviews on Westlaw.

But my interests are in philosphy of law. For example, "what is law?"
Is it only a legislated rule? Not for most of civlization. It is
custom. And if custom, what makes law obligatory? Force? Virtue?
Commitment? When should you respect the law of another polity? Do you
carry law with you as a birthright? (think about how we think of
Constitution). Where is room for mercy in law?
Is mercy only private or may it be public (think pardon power of
executive). Is law something created by humans or something always
there that we are born into? How do rules set me free? (Think, without
knowing rules of grammar, syntext, sentence structure, you are not free
to write). Should we follow a "legal" law that is immoral? If not, is
law proper really about morals rather than legality? And so forth . .
. .

So these and a millon other questions (including the nature of evil,
and most important the ethical justifications for punishment or no
punishment) drive me to philosphy. So I studied continental philosophy
for about six years along with law degree. And in the last five years I
have turned to history.

Why? I am a conservative intellectually. So I have deep respect for my
forebearers - for those who formed the western European tradition of
thought and pondered these hard hard questions.
I go far far back to see what they said about this mysterious word
"law" which we all think we know what it means, but when put to it,
most of can't articulate our thoughts.

Like love, we take it for granted. Basically I am IN LOVE with law,
and with the way the human condition has expreseed itself as something
heroic and grand from century to century through the deeds of brilliant
jurists, saints, warriors, artists, theologians, poets, and yeomen on
juries in the name of a "principle" they held dear - a Law.

Answer your question I hope?

Rosena


Yes. You approach law study similar to the way I did with electronics -
all related fields to electronics along with it. I am just a self
taught newbie to law, looking up my first laws and cases about 15 years
ago. Then finally fed up with being told "you cant do Westlaw if you
are not a law student"(at the university), I joined the county law
library, where I research stuff faster now with the online databases
;-)

My goal is to be one of the best paralegals in the area some day, thats
all. Small goal, I know, but good enough for me, and I know I will be
happy doing it :-)

.






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