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25 Jan 2005 12:47:07 AM |
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"... virtually pain free.." (small rant about tv ads) |
One of those new blood sugar meters that takes a miniscule amount of
blood.
"Virtually". That's the key word.
<rolls eyes at advertisers>
(I have one of those meters)
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| User: "Bev Thornton" |
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| Title: Re: "... virtually pain free.." (small rant about tv ads) |
25 Jan 2005 03:24:52 AM |
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On 2005-01-25, wombn wrote:
One of those new blood sugar meters that takes a miniscule amount of
blood.
"Virtually". That's the key word.
<rolls eyes at advertisers>
(I have one of those meters)
Are the other kinds worse?
I remember the first one I ever saw. Kind of scary compared to what they
have today. And I've seen an old, bakelite autoinjector from Germany,
that was truly bizarre and probably bruising. Makes me wonder about what
doctors do today.
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May all beings have happy minds.
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| User: "wombn" |
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25 Jan 2005 02:04:25 PM |
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On 25 Jan 2005 09:24:52 GMT, Bev Thornton <Reply-To@Not.Invalid>
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On 2005-01-25, wombn wrote:
One of those new blood sugar meters that takes a miniscule amount of
blood.
"Virtually". That's the key word.
<rolls eyes at advertisers>
(I have one of those meters)
Are the other kinds worse?
um.... the ones that require the most blood do (these are being
phased out). But the intermediate one isn't worse.
I remember the first one I ever saw. Kind of scary compared to what they
have today. And I've seen an old, bakelite autoinjector from Germany,
that was truly bizarre and probably bruising. Makes me wonder about what
doctors do today.
I had an air jet kind before the pump. Oh boy did that hurt! IMO, it
was still better than needles though.
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If laughter is the best medicine,
then kittens should be covered by our health insurance. :-)
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| User: "Charles" |
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| Title: Re: "... virtually pain free.." (small rant about tv ads) |
25 Jan 2005 12:57:55 AM |
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:47:07 -0800, wombn <wombn@comcast.net> wrote:
One of those new blood sugar meters that takes a miniscule amount of
blood.
"Virtually". That's the key word.
<rolls eyes at advertisers>
(I have one of those meters)
The meter feels little or no pain.
You, however...
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Charles
Does not play well with others.
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| User: "wombn" |
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| Title: Re: "... virtually pain free.." (small rant about tv ads) |
25 Jan 2005 01:43:39 AM |
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 06:57:55 GMT, Charles <ckraft@SPAMTRAPwest.net>
wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:47:07 -0800, wombn <wombn@comcast.net> wrote:
One of those new blood sugar meters that takes a miniscule amount of
blood.
"Virtually". That's the key word.
<rolls eyes at advertisers>
(I have one of those meters)
The meter feels little or no pain.
OH!!!!!!!!
You, however...
duh.
<slaps self on forehead yet again today>
I have a headache.
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If laughter is the best medicine,
then kittens should be covered by our health insurance. :-)
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| User: "Charles" |
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| Title: Re: "... virtually pain free.." (small rant about tv ads) |
25 Jan 2005 01:50:36 AM |
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:43:39 -0800, wombn <wombn@comcast.net> wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 06:57:55 GMT, Charles <ckraft@SPAMTRAPwest.net>
wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:47:07 -0800, wombn <wombn@comcast.net> wrote:
One of those new blood sugar meters that takes a miniscule amount of
blood.
"Virtually". That's the key word.
<rolls eyes at advertisers>
(I have one of those meters)
The meter feels little or no pain.
OH!!!!!!!!
You, however...
duh.
<slaps self on forehead yet again today>
I have a headache.
someday, soon. It seems to me I read where someone was in the very
early states of testing a transdermal sugar monitor. One that could
be implanted and read without breaking the skin. It seems that if
that works then they could automate the readings and regulate the pump
electronically, so nothing could go wrong.
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Charles
Does not play well with others.
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| User: "wombn" |
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25 Jan 2005 02:31:29 AM |
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 07:50:36 GMT, Charles <ckraft@SPAMTRAPwest.net>
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<slaps self on forehead yet again today>
I have a headache.
someday, soon. It seems to me I read where someone was in the very
early states of testing a transdermal sugar monitor. One that could
be implanted and read without breaking the skin. It seems that if
that works then they could automate the readings and regulate the pump
electronically, so nothing could go wrong.
I've heard that the method can be irritating to the skin. And they
still require a once-a-day blood test to calibrate the thing.
They have a ways to go yet.
But I LOVE MY NEW PUMP!!!!!
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If laughter is the best medicine,
then kittens should be covered by our health insurance. :-)
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| User: "Contrarian" |
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| Title: Re: "... virtually pain free.." (small rant about tv ads) |
30 Jan 2005 08:00:49 AM |
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wombn <wombn@comcast.net> wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 07:50:36 GMT, Charles <ckraft@SPAMTRAPwest.net>
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that works then they could automate the readings and regulate the pump
electronically, so nothing could go wrong.
something can _always_ go wrong
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| User: "wombn" |
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| Title: Re: "... virtually pain free.." (small rant about tv ads) |
30 Jan 2005 02:12:28 PM |
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 14:00:49 GMT, Contrarian <adrba65@gmail.com>
wrote:
wombn <wombn@comcast.net> wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 07:50:36 GMT, Charles <ckraft@SPAMTRAPwest.net>
wrote:
that works then they could automate the readings and regulate the pump
electronically, so nothing could go wrong.
something can _always_ go wrong
and it's usually user error!
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If laughter is the best medicine,
then kittens should be covered by our health insurance. :-)
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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| Title: Re: "... virtually pain free.." (small rant about tv ads) |
30 Jan 2005 04:07:20 PM |
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In message <3tfqv0dbjpi6gnnqvvc3jemishrk6e26bl@4ax.com>, wombn
<wombn@comcast.net> writes
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 14:00:49 GMT, Contrarian <adrba65@gmail.com>
wrote:
wombn <wombn@comcast.net> wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 07:50:36 GMT, Charles <ckraft@SPAMTRAPwest.net>
wrote:
that works then they could automate the readings and regulate the pump
electronically, so nothing could go wrong.
something can _always_ go wrong
and it's usually user error!
The old tech saying was that for every computer error, there were two
user errors, and one of them was blaming the computer.
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The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "Contrarian" |
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| Title: Re: "... virtually pain free.." (small rant about tv ads) |
30 Jan 2005 08:19:28 PM |
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wombn <wombn@comcast.net> wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 14:00:49 GMT, Contrarian <adrba65@gmail.com>
wrote:
something can _always_ go wrong
and it's usually user error!
usually but not always. for a horrifying example of a design/code
and possibly a user error combined, google on "Therac"
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| User: "wombn" |
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31 Jan 2005 03:03:20 AM |
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 02:19:28 GMT, Contrarian <adrba65@gmail.com>
wrote:
wombn <wombn@comcast.net> wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 14:00:49 GMT, Contrarian <adrba65@gmail.com>
wrote:
something can _always_ go wrong
and it's usually user error!
usually but not always. for a horrifying example of a design/code
and possibly a user error combined, google on "Therac"
yikes!
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If laughter is the best medicine,
then kittens should be covered by our health insurance. :-)
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| User: "JayDee" |
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| Title: Re: "... virtually pain free.." (small rant about tv ads) |
25 Jan 2005 07:13:53 PM |
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:43:39 -0800, wombn <wombn@comcast.net> wrote:
The meter feels little or no pain.
OH!!!!!!!!
You, however...
duh.
<slaps self on forehead yet again today>
I have a headache.
a friend of mine had several evaluation units
I waz a ginny pig one morning...
shortly after I'd wolfed jelly beans, 25mg/dl
this was seen as anomalous and checked
....several times, several meters
isn't 25 supposed to be rather low to be operational?
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| User: "wombn" |
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| Title: Re: "... virtually pain free.." (small rant about tv ads) |
25 Jan 2005 07:31:42 PM |
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 17:13:53 -0800, JayDee <thatjaydee@yahoo.net>
wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:43:39 -0800, wombn <wombn@comcast.net> wrote:
The meter feels little or no pain.
OH!!!!!!!!
You, however...
duh.
<slaps self on forehead yet again today>
I have a headache.
a friend of mine had several evaluation units
I waz a ginny pig one morning...
shortly after I'd wolfed jelly beans, 25mg/dl
this was seen as anomalous and checked
...several times, several meters
isn't 25 supposed to be rather low to be operational?
if it's in mg/dl, then YEAH, I'd probably be passed out cold! In
mmol, it would be extremely high. Enough to put me into DKA, and
cause type 2's some icky symptoms too.
http://www.childrenwithdiabetes.com/bs_conv.htm
Thor and I once went to dinner and had huge carb-laden meals, ending
with supersweet PIE. My bg was >350. His was 105. grrr.
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If laughter is the best medicine,
then kittens should be covered by our health insurance. :-)
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| User: "JayDee" |
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25 Jan 2005 08:21:53 PM |
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 17:31:42 -0800, wombn <wombn@comcast.net> wrote:
if it's in mg/dl, then YEAH, I'd probably be passed out cold! In
mmol, it would be extremely high. Enough to put me into DKA, and
cause type 2's some icky symptoms too.
mg/dl...
http://www.childrenwithdiabetes.com/bs_conv.htm
Thor and I once went to dinner and had huge carb-laden meals, ending
with supersweet PIE. My bg was >350. His was 105. grrr.
different plumbing cause different flow rates and drainoff times?
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| User: "wombn" |
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25 Jan 2005 10:56:30 PM |
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:21:53 -0800, JayDee <thatjaydee@yahoo.net>
wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 17:31:42 -0800, wombn <wombn@comcast.net> wrote:
if it's in mg/dl, then YEAH, I'd probably be passed out cold! In
mmol, it would be extremely high. Enough to put me into DKA, and
cause type 2's some icky symptoms too.
mg/dl...
http://www.childrenwithdiabetes.com/bs_conv.htm
Thor and I once went to dinner and had huge carb-laden meals, ending
with supersweet PIE. My bg was >350. His was 105. grrr.
different plumbing cause different flow rates and drainoff times?
naw. I'm insulin dependent. It takes awhile for the injected insulin
to be absorbed. His goes right into his blood stream.
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If laughter is the best medicine,
then kittens should be covered by our health insurance. :-)
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| User: "%" |
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25 Jan 2005 11:21:46 PM |
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"wombn" <wombn@comcast.net> wrote in message news:7n8ev05rme18j6pd4iobireg1ushq7j793@4ax.com...
: On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:21:53 -0800, JayDee <thatjaydee@yahoo.net>
: wrote:
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: >On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 17:31:42 -0800, wombn <wombn@comcast.net> wrote:
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: >>if it's in mg/dl, then YEAH, I'd probably be passed out cold! In
: >>mmol, it would be extremely high. Enough to put me into DKA, and
: >>cause type 2's some icky symptoms too.
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: >mg/dl...
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: >>http://www.childrenwithdiabetes.com/bs_conv.htm
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: >>Thor and I once went to dinner and had huge carb-laden meals, ending
: >>with supersweet PIE. My bg was >350. His was 105. grrr.
: >
: >different plumbing cause different flow rates and drainoff times?
: >
: naw. I'm insulin dependent. It takes awhile for the injected insulin
: to be absorbed. His goes right into his blood stream.
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: If laughter is the best medicine,
: then kittens should be covered by our health insurance. :-)
so his goes right to where his body will rid him of it ,
i wanna sell him insulin
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| User: "JayDee" |
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26 Jan 2005 01:06:37 AM |
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:56:30 -0800, wombn <wombn@comcast.net> wrote:
different plumbing cause different flow rates and drainoff times?
naw. I'm insulin dependent. It takes awhile for the injected insulin
to be absorbed. His goes right into his blood stream. =20
I'm insulin-dependent, too. without it I'm gonzoed
I could likely have no problem slamming it with=20
the needles they have nowadays, and I've had
some very fine ones poked into my belly fat...
no problem0
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| User: "wombn" |
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26 Jan 2005 02:22:43 AM |
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 23:06:37 -0800, JayDee <thatjaydee@yahoo.net>
wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:56:30 -0800, wombn <wombn@comcast.net> wrote:
different plumbing cause different flow rates and drainoff times?
naw. I'm insulin dependent. It takes awhile for the injected insulin
to be absorbed. His goes right into his blood stream.
I'm insulin-dependent, too. without it I'm gonzoed
err..... synthetic insulin?? did you tell me this before and I keep
forgetting it?
I could likely have no problem slamming it with
the needles they have nowadays, and I've had
some very fine ones poked into my belly fat...
no problem0
ugh. *shudder* I'm a wimp. I'd rather have my teeth drilled without
novocaine (and have--3 times)
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If laughter is the best medicine,
then kittens should be covered by our health insurance. :-)
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| User: "JayDee" |
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28 Jan 2005 09:46:14 PM |
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On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 00:22:43 -0800, wombn <wombn@comcast.net> wrote:
I'm insulin-dependent, too. without it I'm gonzoed
err..... synthetic insulin?? did you tell me this before and I keep
forgetting it?
well, my pancreas synthesizes it and I do depend on it...
I could likely have no problem slamming it with=20
the needles they have nowadays, and I've had
some very fine ones poked into my belly fat...
no problem0
ugh. *shudder* I'm a wimp. I'd rather have my teeth drilled without
novocaine (and have--3 times)
I got that once-an eyetooth the doc forgot to numb...
I've never been inclined to find a vein, tho, so self-administered
IV drugs are not happening, which is bad. I rather run myself a
bag or two of saline and all the other ***** they jack me full of
(inc. the Dilauded) at home than an er, but the Cedar Wing is nice
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| User: "wombn" |
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28 Jan 2005 10:14:21 PM |
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:46:14 -0800, JayDee <thatjaydee@yahoo.net>
wrote:
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 00:22:43 -0800, wombn <wombn@comcast.net> wrote:
I'm insulin-dependent, too. without it I'm gonzoed
err..... synthetic insulin?? did you tell me this before and I keep
forgetting it?
well, my pancreas synthesizes it and I do depend on it...
aha. I had a feeling... :-P
I could likely have no problem slamming it with
the needles they have nowadays, and I've had
some very fine ones poked into my belly fat...
no problem0
ugh. *shudder* I'm a wimp. I'd rather have my teeth drilled without
novocaine (and have--3 times)
I got that once-an eyetooth the doc forgot to numb...
I've never been inclined to find a vein, tho, so self-administered
IV drugs are not happening,
*SHUDDER*
which is bad. I rather run myself a
bag or two of saline and all the other ***** they jack me full of
(inc. the Dilauded) at home than an er, but the Cedar Wing is nice
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If laughter is the best medicine,
then kittens should be covered by our health insurance. :-)
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| User: "JayDee" |
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29 Jan 2005 10:28:39 PM |
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 20:14:21 -0800, wombn <wombn@comcast.net> wrote:
well, my pancreas synthesizes it and I do depend on it...
aha. I had a feeling... :-P
I have many. in fact, I'm just jammed full of them
it is all the panceras' fault...
I got that once-an eyetooth the doc forgot to numb...
I've never been inclined to find a vein, tho, so self-administered
IV drugs are not happening,=20
*SHUDDER*
that's supposed to be the fun part...cooked tar that smells like
battery acid, then some shuddering, and then the ***** zooks
all over the passenger-side floor and passes out. yaa. funfunfun
which is bad. I rather run myself a
bag or two of saline and all the other ***** they jack me full of
(inc. the Dilauded) at home than an er, but the Cedar Wing is nice
ah, yes. they really hate it when you dc yourself and boogie, tho
I do a much better job of pulling the IV cathether than they do...
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| User: "wombn" |
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30 Jan 2005 03:16:42 AM |
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 20:28:39 -0800, JayDee <thatjaydee@yahoo.net>
wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 20:14:21 -0800, wombn <wombn@comcast.net> wrote:
well, my pancreas synthesizes it and I do depend on it...
aha. I had a feeling... :-P
I have many. in fact, I'm just jammed full of them
it is all the panceras' fault...
In my case, it's my pituitary's fault.
I got that once-an eyetooth the doc forgot to numb...
I've never been inclined to find a vein, tho, so self-administered
IV drugs are not happening,
*SHUDDER*
that's supposed to be the fun part...cooked tar that smells like
battery acid, then some shuddering, and then the ***** zooks
all over the passenger-side floor and passes out. yaa. funfunfun
oh yah. uh huh
which is bad. I rather run myself a
bag or two of saline and all the other ***** they jack me full of
(inc. the Dilauded) at home than an er, but the Cedar Wing is nice
ah, yes. they really hate it when you dc yourself and boogie, tho
I do a much better job of pulling the IV cathether than they do...
heh.
Yes, you're either VERY brave or a tad crazy. :)
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If laughter is the best medicine,
then kittens should be covered by our health insurance. :-)
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| User: "JayDee" |
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| Title: Re: "... virtually pain free.." (small rant about tv ads) |
31 Jan 2005 01:30:49 AM |
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 01:16:42 -0800, wombn <wombn@comcast.net> wrote:
I have many. in fact, I'm just jammed full of them
it is all the panceras' fault...
In my case, it's my pituitary's fault.
I haven't had any problem with the one I have. I think...
*SHUDDER*
that's supposed to be the fun part...cooked tar that smells like
battery acid, then some shuddering, and then the ***** zooks
all over the passenger-side floor and passes out. yaa. funfunfun
oh yah. uh huh
whip-out the wet-vac...
I do a much better job of pulling the IV cathether than they do...
heh.
Yes, you're either VERY brave or a tad crazy. :)
I don't like being confined after recovery while paperwork
is being dragged-out. I want up and back to the little land
of many hells that helped me into the hospital in the first place
brave? just dexterity and knowing what angle the vein is at,
unlike whoever comes along that didn't install it, and has no
clue on how to genty slide it out at no-angles to the vein...
as for crazy, no. just many of what they call "features"
I only go crazy when yanked off of triazolam or have cut
back under the daily minimum requirement of the stuff
a description, by one Dr. White, in a concversation in another
newsgroup, regarding a drug in the same family as Halcion
"OxyMoron" <nugget27@ihug.com.au> wrote in message
news:ce5r6a$o92$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
How long and how much a day is needed to get a hard-to-kick habit on,
let's say, Ativan? Any opinions?
i hath pondered:
this would vary from person to person. though i would hazard a guess
that if
one was to nibble approx. 3mg of ativan per day, every day, for two
months,
then withdrawal symptoms of some degree would be likely. also, the
severity
of those symptoms might be limited to, say, massive insomnia, or
things
could get bad.
heroin withdrawals are not fun times, and methadone withdrawals are
much
worse, but neither are in the same fucking league as a bad benzo
withdrawal.
be aware that the violent convulsions that can accompany a benzo w/d
can
kill you, or cause such unpleasantries as breaking one's spine
through
horrific convulsing, or smashing your head open like an eggshell
during an
explosive fit.
benzo w/d's manifest themselves firstly by causing absolute and
total
insomnia, then psychosis, delusions and extreme paranoia, followed
by a
strange sensation of pins & needles in your hands and feet. once you
get the
pins & needles, you're fucked. unless you procure some benzos.
Dr.White.
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| User: "wombn" |
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| Title: Re: "... virtually pain free.." (small rant about tv ads) |
31 Jan 2005 03:05:42 AM |
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:30:49 -0800, JayDee <thatjaydee@yahoo.net>
wrote:
be aware that the violent convulsions that can accompany a benzo w/d
can
kill you, or cause such unpleasantries as breaking one's spine
through
horrific convulsing, or smashing your head open like an eggshell
during an
explosive fit.
wow
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If laughter is the best medicine,
then kittens should be covered by our health insurance. :-)
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| User: "JayDee" |
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| Title: Re: "... virtually pain free.." (small rant about tv ads) |
31 Jan 2005 05:24:16 PM |
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 01:05:42 -0800, wombn <wombn@comcast.net> wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:30:49 -0800, JayDee <thatjaydee@yahoo.net>
wrote:
be aware that the violent convulsions that can accompany a benzo w/d
can
kill you, or cause such unpleasantries as breaking one's spine
through
horrific convulsing, or smashing your head open like an eggshell
during an
explosive fit.
wow
as you can see, my personal Drug Enforcement Agency
takes priority over the Federal version, gee, wonder why!
I hated the explosive fit part ...
so did the possessors of all the stolen propane (>1000 gallons)
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