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30 Jul 2005 10:38:21 AM |
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10th planet discovered (ot) |
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/07/30/MNGTNE0G9L1.DTL&type=science
"Astronomers announced with excitement Friday they had discovered what
they call the solar system's 10th planet -- a shining object, much
larger than distant Pluto, that is orbiting the sun more than 9 billion
miles from Earth. [...]"
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| Title: Re: 10th planet discovered (ot) |
30 Jul 2005 11:34:40 AM |
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"millipede man" <huaFMngm@eartFMhlinFMk.FMnet> wrote in message
news:N9NGe.6415$0C.3946@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/07/30/MNGTNE0G9L1.DTL&type=science
"Astronomers announced with excitement Friday they had discovered what
they call the solar system's 10th planet -- a shining object, much
larger than distant Pluto, that is orbiting the sun more than 9 billion
miles from Earth. [...]"
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- millipede man
and no millipedes ... yay
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| User: "Mad Season" |
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| Title: Re: 10th planet discovered (ot) |
30 Jul 2005 05:17:13 PM |
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"millipede man" <huaFMngm@eartFMhlinFMk.FMnet> wrote in message
news:N9NGe.6415$0C.3946@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/07/30/MNGTNE0G9L1.DTL&type=science
"Astronomers announced with excitement Friday they had discovered what
they call the solar system's 10th planet -- a shining object, much larger
than distant Pluto, that is orbiting the sun more than 9 billion miles
from Earth. [...]"
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- millipede man
When I was in grade school there was only six planets and our text books
consisted of scrolls :)
Mad Season ... the old geezer.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: 10th planet discovered (ot) |
01 Aug 2005 03:12:41 PM |
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Mad Season wrote:
Mad Season ... the old geezer.
At the Haydyn Planetarioum in New York City, there is a very
intersting exciting space show called "Is there life on other planets?"
It's narrated by Harrison Ford. It was amazing and fascinating. You
really felt watching it that you were on the surface of Mars...which in
a way you were,since they really showed the surface of mars which were
taken recently,and the images completly surrounded you... The Imax show
"The living sea" was really interesting too. It was narrated by Merryl
Steep,with music by Sting.
-"Alvintchase"
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: 10th planet discovered (ot) |
30 Jul 2005 02:40:06 PM |
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I contend that Pluto is barely a planet, and a boring one at that. Anything
further out is a rock.
http://www.solarviews.com/raw/pluto/plutomap.gif
Take a look at the surface of Pluto for yourself, fascinating.
As for size: well, USA USA USA!
http://www.solarviews.com/browse/pluto/plutousa.jpg
"millipede man" <huaFMngm@eartFMhlinFMk.FMnet> wrote in message
news:N9NGe.6415$0C.3946@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/07/30/MNGTNE0G9L1.DTL&type=science
"Astronomers announced with excitement Friday they had discovered what
they call the solar system's 10th planet -- a shining object, much larger
than distant Pluto, that is orbiting the sun more than 9 billion miles
from Earth. [...]"
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- millipede man
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| User: "Contrarian" |
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| Title: Re: 10th planet discovered (ot) |
01 Aug 2005 04:16:41 AM |
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Franz Bestuchev <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote:
I contend that Pluto is barely a planet
"Barely" glad to see that. Remember, it's hard to convince
bureaucrats to go along with expeditions to non-planets.
There's a good book on this, I forget the name.
, and a boring one at that.
Insufficietly appreciated.
Anything further out is a rock.
That remains to be seen.
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but the edge is still Out there. Or maybe it's In... HST (1967)
when i got to the edge , i built a deck % (2005)
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| User: "BTM" |
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04 Aug 2005 07:13:17 AM |
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On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:40:06 -0600, "Franz Bestuchev"
<franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote:
I contend that Pluto is barely a planet, and a boring one at that. Anything
further out is a rock.
Hey now, just cause he sits waaaaay in the back of the class (so to
speak) doesn't mean we should pick on him.
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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| Title: Re: 10th planet discovered (ot) |
31 Jul 2005 06:01:04 AM |
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On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:40:06 -0600, "Franz Bestuchev"
<franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote:
I contend that Pluto is barely a planet, and a boring one at that. Anything
further out is a rock.
I don't buy the arguments in favor of rescinding Pluto's status as a
planet. As far as I'm concerned, if people several thousand years ago were
observant enough to notice and name Pluto, it deserves to be a planet.
Any thoughts on what to call the new rock? I'm thinking they should honor
Douglas Adams and call the new one Rupert. I.e., from his novel Mostly
Harmless, in which aliens who lost their minds (literally - the computer
storing them was damaged...) landed on a tenth planet and began studying
earth.
Amusingly, one of the ideas in the book is that a tenth planet really screw
up astrologers.
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The Democrats are the party that says government will make you smarter,
taller, richer, and remove the crabgrass on your lawn. The Republicans are
the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and
prove it.
- P.J. O'Rourke
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| User: "Noon Cat Nick" |
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| Title: Re: 10th planet discovered (ot) |
31 Jul 2005 06:26:31 AM |
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CyberDroog wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:40:06 -0600, "Franz Bestuchev"
<franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote:
I contend that Pluto is barely a planet, and a boring one at that. Anything
further out is a rock.
I don't buy the arguments in favor of rescinding Pluto's status as a
planet. As far as I'm concerned, if people several thousand years ago were
observant enough to notice and name Pluto, it deserves to be a planet.
The universe is no longer either heliocentric or geocentric. Experientially
it's idiocentric. We live in the Me Universe.
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| User: "Youll Never Know" |
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01 Aug 2005 05:15:59 PM |
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 11:01:04 GMT, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:40:06 -0600, "Franz Bestuchev"
<franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote:
I contend that Pluto is barely a planet, and a boring one at that. Anything
further out is a rock.
I don't buy the arguments in favor of rescinding Pluto's status as a
planet. As far as I'm concerned, if people several thousand years ago were
observant enough to notice and name Pluto, it deserves to be a planet.
Any thoughts on what to call the new rock? I'm thinking they should honor
Douglas Adams and call the new one Rupert. I.e., from his novel Mostly
Harmless, in which aliens who lost their minds (literally - the computer
storing them was damaged...) landed on a tenth planet and began studying
earth.
That'd be good.
However I believe they'll be naming it XP.
Amusingly, one of the ideas in the book is that a tenth planet really screw
up astrologers.
Nice idea!
Already I miss Douglas Adams.
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| User: "Thomas Dehn" |
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| Title: Re: 10th planet discovered (ot) |
31 Jul 2005 07:34:16 AM |
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"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:40:06 -0600, "Franz Bestuchev"
<franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote:
I contend that Pluto is barely a planet, and a boring one at that. Anything
further out is a rock.
I don't buy the arguments in favor of rescinding Pluto's status as a
planet. As far as I'm concerned, if people several thousand years ago were
observant enough to notice and name Pluto, it deserves to be a planet.
Pluto was discovered 1930 by Clyde Tombaugh from Arizona.
Thomas
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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| Title: Re: 10th planet discovered (ot) |
31 Jul 2005 07:53:33 AM |
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 14:34:16 +0200, "Thomas Dehn" <thomas-usenet@arcor.de>
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"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:40:06 -0600, "Franz Bestuchev"
<franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote:
I contend that Pluto is barely a planet, and a boring one at that. Anything
further out is a rock.
I don't buy the arguments in favor of rescinding Pluto's status as a
planet. As far as I'm concerned, if people several thousand years ago were
observant enough to notice and name Pluto, it deserves to be a planet.
Pluto was discovered 1930 by Clyde Tombaugh from Arizona.
Actually I was thinking of the new planet when I wrote that. In particular
the idea that it could have been found by amateur astronomers if they had
been paying attention.
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There is no virtue in compulsory government charity, and there is no virtue
in advocating it. A politician who portrays himself as "caring" and
"sensitive" because he wants to expand the government's charitable programs
is merely saying that he's willing to try to do good with other people's
money. Well, who isn't? And a voter who takes pride in supporting such
programs is telling us that he'll do good with his own money -- if a gun is
held to his head.
- P.J. O'Rourke
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| User: "Thomas Dehn" |
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| Title: Re: 10th planet discovered (ot) |
31 Jul 2005 01:35:40 PM |
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"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 14:34:16 +0200, "Thomas Dehn" <thomas-usenet@arcor.de>
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"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:40:06 -0600, "Franz Bestuchev"
<franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote:
I contend that Pluto is barely a planet, and a boring one at that. Anything
further out is a rock.
I don't buy the arguments in favor of rescinding Pluto's status as a
planet. As far as I'm concerned, if people several thousand years ago were
observant enough to notice and name Pluto, it deserves to be a planet.
Pluto was discovered 1930 by Clyde Tombaugh from Arizona.
Actually I was thinking of the new planet when I wrote that. In particular
the idea that it could have been found by amateur astronomers if they had
been paying attention.
No, 2003UB313 which is bigger than pluto but very far away could
not have been found with amateur equipment.
At least not during the last 100 years. 2003UB313 also
was not bright enough to be discovered by Tombaugh.
In 280 years, 2003UB313 will be just as far away as Neptune,
and then it will be visible with amateur equipment.
Neptune itself was already observed by Galilei, but he
did not recognize that it was a planet. Neptune was finally
discovered in 1846 but only because astronomers had
computed its orbit and thus knew where to look. But Neptune
is much larger than any of those Kuiper belt objects.
2003EL61 which is smaller than Pluto but currently less far out than
2003UB313 can be observed with today's amateur equipment.
I don't know whether 2005FY9 which is larger than 2003EL61
but a little bit smaller than Pluto can
be observed with amateur equipment.
Thomas
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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| Title: Re: 10th planet discovered (ot) |
31 Jul 2005 11:51:40 PM |
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 20:35:40 +0200, "Thomas Dehn" <thomas-usenet@arcor.de>
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"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:
Actually I was thinking of the new planet when I wrote that. In particular
the idea that it could have been found by amateur astronomers if they had
been paying attention.
No, 2003UB313 which is bigger than pluto but very far away could
not have been found with amateur equipment.
At least not during the last 100 years. 2003UB313 also
was not bright enough to be discovered by Tombaugh.
2003-UB313 can be imaged with a 14 inch telescope. That is well within the
scope of many amateur astronomers.
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CRITIC, n. A person who boasts himself hard to please because nobody
tries to please him.
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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05 Aug 2005 01:22:26 AM |
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In message <7fare1lhqa11bm7i38ugoihjunbcplb6ff@4ax.com>, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> writes
2003-UB313 can be imaged with a 14 inch telescope. That is well within the
scope of many amateur astronomers.
A fourteen inch refractor would be something to see!
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The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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05 Aug 2005 08:45:43 AM |
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On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 07:22:26 +0100, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
In message <7fare1lhqa11bm7i38ugoihjunbcplb6ff@4ax.com>, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> writes
2003-UB313 can be imaged with a 14 inch telescope. That is well within the
scope of many amateur astronomers.
A fourteen inch refractor would be something to see!
I've always wanted a house with a dome, like an observatory. Nice touch
since I want a light house also. So why not make it with an observatory on
top? Assuming you can turn off the light, that is...
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One of the annoying things about believing in free will and individual
responsibility is the difficulty of finding somebody to blame your problems
on. And when you do find somebody, it's remarkable how often his picture
turns up on your driver's license.
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| User: "Thomas Dehn" |
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02 Aug 2005 12:14:33 AM |
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"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:
2003-UB313 can be imaged with a 14 inch telescope. That is well within the
scope of many amateur astronomers.
Doubt that. On his homepage, Professor Brown writes
"The planet can be seen using very high-end
amateur equipment, but you need to know where to look. "
Thomas
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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02 Aug 2005 08:22:44 PM |
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I looked...at the sky...didn't see it.
"Thomas Dehn" <thomas-usenet@arcor.de> wrote in message
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"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:
2003-UB313 can be imaged with a 14 inch telescope. That is well within
the
scope of many amateur astronomers.
Doubt that. On his homepage, Professor Brown writes
"The planet can be seen using very high-end
amateur equipment, but you need to know where to look. "
Thomas
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| User: "Ivan Marsh" |
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02 Aug 2005 12:58:16 PM |
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On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 07:14:33 +0200, Thomas Dehn wrote:
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"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:
2003-UB313 can be imaged with a 14 inch telescope. That is well within
the scope of many amateur astronomers.
Doubt that. On his homepage, Professor Brown writes "The planet can be
seen using very high-end
amateur equipment, but you need to know where to look. "
Good to know professors are still stating the blatantly obvious.
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"Blessed is he who expects nothing, for he shall never be disappointed."
Benjamin Franklin (I didn't know he was a Buddhist)
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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02 Aug 2005 12:07:31 PM |
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On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 07:14:33 +0200, "Thomas Dehn" <thomas-usenet@arcor.de>
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"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:
2003-UB313 can be imaged with a 14 inch telescope. That is well within the
scope of many amateur astronomers.
Doubt that. On his homepage, Professor Brown writes
"The planet can be seen using very high-end
amateur equipment, but you need to know where to look. "
Perhaps a 14" scope is high-end for amateur astronomers in Germany. It
ain't in the U.S. As for where to look, I assume the best place to look is
up at the sky...
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You can't get good chinese takeout in China and cuban cigars are rationed
in Cuba. That's all you need to know about communism.
- P.J. O'Rourke
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| User: "Ivan Marsh" |
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01 Aug 2005 10:00:53 AM |
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On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:40:06 -0600, Franz Bestuchev wrote:
I contend that Pluto is barely a planet, and a boring one at that.
Anything further out is a rock.
How is a rock less significant than a ball of gas?
I thought the last speculation about Pluto was that it was actually two
small planetoids orbiting each other... like a planet with a moon almost
it's own size.
Has this been disproved... or did I, perhaps, just make it up?
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"Blessed is he who expects nothing, for he shall never be disappointed."
Benjamin Franklin (I didn't know he was a Buddhist)
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| User: "" |
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01 Aug 2005 10:56:50 AM |
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On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 10:00:53 -0500, Ivan Marsh <annoyed@you.now>
wrote:
How is a rock less significant than a ball of gas?
Exactly! I'll take gas over a kidney stone any day.
Wait...could you repeat the question? ;-)
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| User: "Thomas Dehn" |
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01 Aug 2005 01:51:16 PM |
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"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote:
I thought the last speculation about Pluto was that it was actually two
small planetoids orbiting each other... like a planet with a moon almost
it's own size.
Thats not a speculation. Pluto's moon Charon is quite
large for a moon, it have about 10% the mass of Pluto.
Thomas
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