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28 Feb 2005 07:05:27 PM |
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150 years from now |
Where will we all be?
-"Alvintchase"
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01 Mar 2005 12:13:24 AM |
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"AlvinTChase" <relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Where will we all be?
Dust to Dust
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01 Mar 2005 09:52:20 AM |
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DaKitty wrote:
"AlvinTChase" <relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Where will we all be?
Dust to Dust
"ashes and diamonds
foe and friend
we were all equal
in the end"
-Roger Waters
-"Alvintchase"
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| User: "Charles" |
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01 Mar 2005 12:13:25 AM |
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:13:24 -0800, "DaKitty"
<Imgonna@dotcomsomething.net> wrote:
"AlvinTChase" <relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1109639127.664083.290250@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Where will we all be?
Dust to Dust
Dust to bunnies beneath the sofa.
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Charles
Does not play well with others.
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| User: "wombn" |
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01 Mar 2005 04:09:36 AM |
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 06:13:25 GMT, Charles <ckraft@SPAMTRAPwest.net>
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:13:24 -0800, "DaKitty"
<Imgonna@dotcomsomething.net> wrote:
"AlvinTChase" <relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1109639127.664083.290250@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Where will we all be?
Dust to Dust
Dust to bunnies beneath the sofa.
This is about your housekeeping tendencies, isn't it?
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If laughter is the best medicine,
then kittens should be covered by our health insurance. :-)
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28 Feb 2005 08:40:58 PM |
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"AlvinTChase" <relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1109639127.664083.290250@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
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: -"Alvintchase"
i'll be posting usenet posts counts
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| User: "Luna" |
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28 Feb 2005 07:08:37 PM |
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AlvinTChase wrote:
Where will we all be?
Not here. We'll either be nowhere or somewhere else.
Jean
-"Alvintchase"
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| User: "AlvinTChase" |
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28 Feb 2005 07:15:34 PM |
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Luna wrote:
AlvinTChase wrote:
Where will we all be?
Not here. We'll either be nowhere or somewhere else.
Jean
I think it's a good way to try to change my perspective,and other
people's perspective...to remember that this life is
really,really,really short...
-"Alvintchase"
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| User: "Luna" |
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28 Feb 2005 07:16:49 PM |
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AlvinTChase wrote:
Luna wrote:
AlvinTChase wrote:
Where will we all be?
Not here. We'll either be nowhere or somewhere else.
Jean
I think it's a good way to try to change my perspective,and other
people's perspective...to remember that this life is
really,really,really short...
Ohhh Alvin, life is really, really long too.
Jean
-"Alvintchase"
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| User: "AlvinTChase" |
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28 Feb 2005 07:25:22 PM |
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Luna wrote:
AlvinTChase wrote:
Luna wrote:
AlvinTChase wrote:
Where will we all be?
Not here. We'll either be nowhere or somewhere else.
Jean
I think it's a good way to try to change my perspective,and other
people's perspective...to remember that this life is
really,really,really short...
Ohhh Alvin, life is really, really long too.
Jean
That's true...but I often think it's too short for so much of the
stuff that we worry about,and that we upset ourselves about...I
remember the feelings I get at funerals sometimes...or just being at
cemetaries...the feeling that when you consider the big picture,so much
of what upsets us,so much of what we are afarid of on a daily basis,so
much that we are attached to,is not important...
-"Alvintchase"
-"Alvintchase"
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| User: "Luna" |
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28 Feb 2005 07:52:02 PM |
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AlvinTChase wrote:
Luna wrote:
AlvinTChase wrote:
Luna wrote:
AlvinTChase wrote:
Where will we all be?
Not here. We'll either be nowhere or somewhere else.
Jean
I think it's a good way to try to change my perspective,and other
people's perspective...to remember that this life is
really,really,really short...
Ohhh Alvin, life is really, really long too.
Jean
That's true...but I often think it's too short for so much of the
stuff that we worry about,and that we upset ourselves about...I
remember the feelings I get at funerals sometimes...or just being at
cemetaries...the feeling that when you consider the big picture,so
much of what upsets us,so much of what we are afarid of on a daily
basis,so much that we are attached to,is not important...
-"Alvintchase"
Hey Alvin, I'm less of a metaphysical/phorical thinker than you are. I figure
when I'm gone it'll be like a tv that gets turned off, my life will be over and
other lives will fill up that space. My consciousness may disappear but in the
grande scheme of things there will be plenty of other consciousnesses (heh) to
make the loss of mine pretty much irrelevant. My life, when you get down to it,
is really only important to me and when it's over I won't be around to care.
Sure people will miss me and hopefully even remember me (my children, mostly)
but I think they'll do fine without me, that was the whole objective - raising
self sufficient beings.
I think since around the age of 30 I've been completely ready to die. Not that
I'm looking forward to it, mind you. Just that I'm ready.
Jean
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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01 Mar 2005 11:20:05 AM |
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"Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Hey Alvin, I'm less of a metaphysical/phorical thinker than you are. I
figure
when I'm gone it'll be like a tv that gets turned off, my life will be
over and
other lives will fill up that space. My consciousness may disappear but
in the
grande scheme of things there will be plenty of other consciousnesses
(heh) to
make the loss of mine pretty much irrelevant. My life, when you get down
to it,
is really only important to me and when it's over I won't be around to
care.
Sure people will miss me and hopefully even remember me (my children,
mostly)
but I think they'll do fine without me, that was the whole objective -
raising
self sufficient beings.
I think since around the age of 30 I've been completely ready to die. Not
that
I'm looking forward to it, mind you. Just that I'm ready.
Jean
I'm sure your children are better people for having known you. I know I am.
When someone has changed you the impact that has on them goes far beyond
just missing you or remembering you. It means they carry you somewhere
inside until they pass on too. And during the time that they carried you,
the part of you that made them better, could have impacted on hundreds of
other lives. And so on and so on. That means that in a way - regardless of
where you end up - on earth, you go on forever. And I would be hard pressed
to think of a more deserving person. :)
rhianon@sympatico.ca
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| User: "AlvinTChase" |
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01 Mar 2005 10:50:31 AM |
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Rhiannon wrote:
"Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:38i066F5ogmqiU1@individual.net...
Hey Alvin, I'm less of a metaphysical/phorical thinker than you
are. I
figure
when I'm gone it'll be like a tv that gets turned off, my life will
be
over and
other lives will fill up that space. My consciousness may
disappear but
in the
grande scheme of things there will be plenty of other
consciousnesses
(heh) to
make the loss of mine pretty much irrelevant. My life, when you get
down
to it,
is really only important to me and when it's over I won't be around
to
care.
Sure people will miss me and hopefully even remember me (my
children,
mostly)
but I think they'll do fine without me, that was the whole
objective -
raising
self sufficient beings.
I think since around the age of 30 I've been completely ready to
die. Not
that
I'm looking forward to it, mind you. Just that I'm ready.
Jean
I'm sure your children are better people for having known you. I
know I am.
When someone has changed you the impact that has on them goes far
beyond
just missing you or remembering you. It means they carry you
somewhere
inside until they pass on too. And during the time that they carried
you,
the part of you that made them better, could have impacted on
hundreds of
other lives. And so on and so on. That means that in a way -
regardless of
where you end up - on earth, you go on forever. And I would be hard
pressed
to think of a more deserving person. :)
rhianon@sympatico.ca
I agree...Luna reminds me of my sister in some ways...very
intelligent,artistic,caring,and she has a mind of her own,she's not
afraid to speak out and go against the grain...
-"Alvintchase"
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| User: "Luna" |
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01 Mar 2005 05:42:49 PM |
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AlvinTChase wrote:
<snip>
I agree...Luna reminds me of my sister in some ways...very
intelligent,artistic,caring,and she has a mind of her own,she's not
afraid to speak out and go against the grain...
Weird because you remind me of my brother, he was an idealistic sort of guy and
his name was Jack. I think Jack is why I have such a reservoir of tenderness
towards you, Alvin. It doesn't remove your own personality from the equation,
you are you and I recognize that, it's just that you evoke my idealistic much
missed brother with your questing posts and your constant questions. I could
easily be criticial of you but I just can't because I feel an emotional,
protective and familial connection. Like, if you were in town I'd have you
over, no hesitation.
Jean
-"Alvintchase"
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| User: "AlvinTChase" |
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02 Mar 2005 10:23:57 AM |
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Luna wrote:
AlvinTChase wrote:
<snip>
I agree...Luna reminds me of my sister in some ways...very
intelligent,artistic,caring,and she has a mind of her own,she's not
afraid to speak out and go against the grain...
Weird because you remind me of my brother, he was an idealistic sort
of guy and
his name was Jack. I think Jack is why I have such a reservoir of
tenderness
towards you, Alvin. It doesn't remove your own personality from the
equation,
you are you and I recognize that, it's just that you evoke my
idealistic much
missed brother with your questing posts and your constant questions.
I could
easily be criticial of you but I just can't because I feel an
emotional,
protective and familial connection. Like, if you were in town I'd
have you
over, no hesitation.
Jean
-"Alvintchase"
Thank you...that makes me feel good...and I don't mind
criticism.Well,it's not always easy to hear,but as long as it's not
insults,name calling,mean and nasty comments designed to hurt my
feelings,I can handle it...I think constructive criticism can be a way
of helping people...
-"Alvincthase"
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| User: "Luna" |
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01 Mar 2005 05:32:18 PM |
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Rhiannon wrote:
"Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:38i066F5ogmqiU1@individual.net...
Hey Alvin, I'm less of a metaphysical/phorical thinker than you are.
I figure when I'm gone it'll be like a tv that gets turned off, my
life will be over and other lives will fill up that space. My
consciousness may disappear but in the grande scheme of things there
will be plenty of other consciousnesses (heh) to make the loss of
mine pretty much irrelevant. My life, when you get down to it, is
really only important to me and when it's over I won't be around to
care. Sure people will miss me and hopefully even remember me (my
children, mostly) but I think they'll do fine without me, that was
the whole objective - raising self sufficient beings.
I think since around the age of 30 I've been completely ready to
die. Not that I'm looking forward to it, mind you. Just that I'm
ready.
Jean
I'm sure your children are better people for having known you. I
know I am. When someone has changed you the impact that has on them
goes far beyond just missing you or remembering you. It means they
carry you somewhere inside until they pass on too. And during the
time that they carried you, the part of you that made them better,
could have impacted on hundreds of other lives. And so on and so on.
That means that in a way - regardless of where you end up - on earth,
you go on forever. And I would be hard pressed to think of a more
deserving person. :)
Aww shucks, I mean, let's get married.
Really, I appreciate this. I'm quite invested in my children and the whole
legacy concept, I feel like I go on about this too much hereabouts but damn, I'm
incredibly proud of them. Okay so my eldest was here for "reading week" and one
thing I noticed acutely - when he's here and we're sitting at the kitchen table,
he distinctly "leans in". I really love that.
Jean
rhianon@sympatico.ca
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| User: "AlvinTChase" |
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28 Feb 2005 08:12:38 PM |
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Luna wrote:
AlvinTChase wrote:
Luna wrote:
AlvinTChase wrote:
Luna wrote:
AlvinTChase wrote:
Where will we all be?
Not here. We'll either be nowhere or somewhere else.
Jean
I think it's a good way to try to change my perspective,and
other
people's perspective...to remember that this life is
really,really,really short...
Ohhh Alvin, life is really, really long too.
Jean
That's true...but I often think it's too short for so much of the
stuff that we worry about,and that we upset ourselves about...I
remember the feelings I get at funerals sometimes...or just being
at
cemetaries...the feeling that when you consider the big picture,so
much of what upsets us,so much of what we are afarid of on a daily
basis,so much that we are attached to,is not important...
-"Alvintchase"
Hey Alvin, I'm less of a metaphysical/phorical thinker than you are.
I also have a very abstract,associative way of looking at
things...that's fine,I guess,but I want to work on thinkiing in a more
concrete,"down to earth" way,finding a bit more balance in that
area......I'll probably never be great at it,but I'm sure I could
improve...
I figure
when I'm gone it'll be like a tv that gets turned off, my life will
be over and
other lives will fill up that space. My consciousness may disappear
but in the
grande scheme of things there will be plenty of other consciousnesses
(heh) to
make the loss of mine pretty much irrelevant. My life, when you get
down to it,
is really only important to me and when it's over I won't be around
to care.
Sure people will miss me and hopefully even remember me (my children,
mostly)
but I think they'll do fine without me, that was the whole objective
- raising
self sufficient beings.
I think since around the age of 30 I've been completely ready to die.
Not that
I'm looking forward to it, mind you. Just that I'm ready.
Jean
I'd like to think that I'm ready to die,that I'm not afraid...but I
know that I am,like my dad...He's afraid of not existing,of having "no
concious thought"...I wonder if that's what scares most people...to me
it does make a lot of sense to think that we come back in other
forms,to think that just as the oceans "wave",the universe
"peoples"...but who knows if that's how I feel really deep down...I do
get angry sometimes at the life cycle,at the fact that our
relatives,our friends,our loved ones die...I get angry that I can't see
my grampa again...I guess that's probably the hardest thing in life for
most people....losing loved ones forever...
-"Alvintchase"
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28 Feb 2005 10:31:17 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 20:52:02 -0500, "Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Hey Alvin, I'm less of a metaphysical/phorical thinker than you are. I figure
when I'm gone it'll be like a tv that gets turned off, my life will be over and
other lives will fill up that space. My consciousness may disappear but in the
grande scheme of things there will be plenty of other consciousnesses (heh) to
make the loss of mine pretty much irrelevant. My life, when you get down to it,
is really only important to me and when it's over I won't be around to care.
Sure people will miss me and hopefully even remember me (my children, mostly)
but I think they'll do fine without me, that was the whole objective - raising
self sufficient beings.
And why only think of 150 years from now? Billions of years from the sun
will have engulfed the earth and completely vaporized it.
Unless we escape to space, everything mankind ever did will be lost and no
one's life will have mattered.
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FAMOUS, adj. Conspicuously miserable.
- Ambrose Bierce
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| User: "ponette" |
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28 Feb 2005 10:48:22 PM |
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 04:31:17 GMT, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:
And why only think of 150 years from now? Billions of years from the sun
will have engulfed the earth and completely vaporized it.
Unless we escape to space, everything mankind ever did will be lost and no
one's life will have mattered.
I suppose there is a certain freedom in knowing that absolutely
everything we create or do is ultimately inconsequential.
There's a local singer/songwriter, Mark Graham, by the way, who sums
up the lives of the dinosaurs in a single refrain, "Their brains were
small, and they died." That's enough to put practically anything we
here on Earth can achieve into proper perspective, I think.
p
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28 Feb 2005 10:53:04 PM |
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 04:31:17 GMT, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 20:52:02 -0500, "Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Hey Alvin, I'm less of a metaphysical/phorical thinker than you are. I figure
when I'm gone it'll be like a tv that gets turned off, my life will be over and
other lives will fill up that space. My consciousness may disappear but in the
grande scheme of things there will be plenty of other consciousnesses (heh) to
make the loss of mine pretty much irrelevant. My life, when you get down to it,
is really only important to me and when it's over I won't be around to care.
Sure people will miss me and hopefully even remember me (my children, mostly)
but I think they'll do fine without me, that was the whole objective - raising
self sufficient beings.
And why only think of 150 years from now? Billions of years from the sun
will have engulfed the earth and completely vaporized it.
Unless we escape to space, everything mankind ever did will be lost and no
one's life will have mattered.
And if we get to space, there is the heat death of the universe, so it
still doesn't matter.
following from:
http://www.alamut.com/subj/ideologies/pessimism/entropy.html
Past
Subjects
Projects
Misc
ENTROPY AND HEAT DEATH
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Bertrand Russell's acceptance of the heat death (1903)
"That man is the product of causes that had no prevision of the end
they were achieving; that his origin, his growth, his hopes and fears,
his loves and his beliefs, are but the outcome of accidental
collocations of atoms; that no fire, no heroism, no intensity of
thought and feeling, can preserve individual life beyond the grave;
that all the labors of the ages, all the devotion, all the
inspiration, all the noonday brightness of human genius, are destined
to extinction in the vast death of the solar system, and that the
whole temple of Man's achievement must inevitably be buried beneath
the debris of a universe in ruins- all these things, if not quite
beyond dispute, are yet so nearly certain that no philosophy which
rejects them can hope to stand.
"Only within the scaffolding of these truths, only on the firm
foundation of unyielding dispair, can the soul's habitation henceforth
be safely built."
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Charles
Does not play well with others.
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01 Mar 2005 12:57:09 AM |
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 04:53:04 GMT, Charles <ckraft@SPAMTRAPwest.net>
wrote:
Unless we escape to space, everything mankind ever did will be lost and no
one's life will have mattered.
And if we get to space, there is the heat death of the universe, so it
still doesn't matter.
but but but but but....
oh damn. My brain's gone into that same TILT that my dad put it into
when I was 12, when he'd explained infinity in terms of the
universe...
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If laughter is the best medicine,
then kittens should be covered by our health insurance. :-)
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01 Mar 2005 04:07:59 AM |
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:57:09 -0800, wombn <wombnhearmeroar@comcast.net>
wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 04:53:04 GMT, Charles <ckraft@SPAMTRAPwest.net>
wrote:
Unless we escape to space, everything mankind ever did will be lost and no
one's life will have mattered.
And if we get to space, there is the heat death of the universe, so it
still doesn't matter.
but but but but but....
oh damn. My brain's gone into that same TILT that my dad put it into
when I was 12, when he'd explained infinity in terms of the
universe...
Think multiverse.... there may be plenty of other universes to escape to.
We might even be able to create news one ourselves.
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EGOTIST, n. A person of low taste, more interested in himself than in me.
- Ambrose Bierce
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| User: "Ivan Marsh" |
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01 Mar 2005 10:36:17 AM |
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 10:07:59 +0000, CyberDroog wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:57:09 -0800, wombn <wombnhearmeroar@comcast.net>
wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 04:53:04 GMT, Charles <ckraft@SPAMTRAPwest.net>
wrote:
Unless we escape to space, everything mankind ever did will be lost
and no one's life will have mattered.
And if we get to space, there is the heat death of the universe, so it
still doesn't matter.
but but but but but....
oh damn. My brain's gone into that same TILT that my dad put it into
when I was 12, when he'd explained infinity in terms of the universe...
Think multiverse.... there may be plenty of other universes to escape
to. We might even be able to create news one ourselves.
There is only one universe, with infinite dimensions... but that is of
little matter to anyone but theorists since human sensory apparatus can
only perceive four.
None the less, we are all doomed... eventually... a thought that makes me
feel better.
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Life is short, but wide. -KV
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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01 Mar 2005 05:04:31 PM |
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 10:36:17 -0600, Ivan Marsh <annoyed@you.now> wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 10:07:59 +0000, CyberDroog wrote:
Think multiverse.... there may be plenty of other universes to escape
to. We might even be able to create news one ourselves.
There is only one universe, with infinite dimensions... but that is of
little matter to anyone but theorists since human sensory apparatus can
only perceive four.
None the less, we are all doomed... eventually... a thought that makes me
feel better.
As far as I know, the term universe has been relegated to a local
phenomenon. The thing our universe exists in, along with many others, is
the multiverse.
There is no reason we need to be doomed. New universes may be created all
the time. We might even create one ourselves.
--
REFORM, v. A thing that mostly satisfies reformers opposed to
reformation.
- Ambrose Bierce
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| User: "Ivan Marsh" |
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02 Mar 2005 10:06:51 AM |
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 23:04:31 +0000, CyberDroog wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 10:36:17 -0600, Ivan Marsh <annoyed@you.now> wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 10:07:59 +0000, CyberDroog wrote:
Think multiverse.... there may be plenty of other universes to escape
to. We might even be able to create news one ourselves.
There is only one universe, with infinite dimensions... but that is of
little matter to anyone but theorists since human sensory apparatus can
only perceive four.
None the less, we are all doomed... eventually... a thought that makes me
feel better.
As far as I know, the term universe has been relegated to a local
phenomenon. The thing our universe exists in, along with many others, is
the multiverse.
Our universe doesn't exist in anything... it's infinite.
There is no reason we need to be doomed. New universes may be created all
the time. We might even create one ourselves.
Time being the relevant factor: all things are doomed.
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Life is short, but wide. -KV
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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02 Mar 2005 10:49:19 PM |
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On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 10:06:51 -0600, Ivan Marsh <annoyed@you.now> wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 23:04:31 +0000, CyberDroog wrote:
As far as I know, the term universe has been relegated to a local
phenomenon. The thing our universe exists in, along with many others, is
the multiverse.
Our universe doesn't exist in anything... it's infinite.
When you say universe, do you mean multiverse?
There is no reason we need to be doomed. New universes may be created all
the time. We might even create one ourselves.
Time being the relevant factor: all things are doomed.
Time is just an illusion.
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POLITICS, n. A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of
principles. The conduct of public affairs for private advantage.
- Ambrose Bierce
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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| Title: Re: 150 years from now |
03 Mar 2005 12:56:34 AM |
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In message <lq5d21tuf8jiadrhfju1lojg0da7te9lvj@4ax.com>, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> writes
On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 10:06:51 -0600, Ivan Marsh <annoyed@you.now> wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 23:04:31 +0000, CyberDroog wrote:
As far as I know, the term universe has been relegated to a local
phenomenon. The thing our universe exists in, along with many others, is
the multiverse.
Our universe doesn't exist in anything... it's infinite.
When you say universe, do you mean multiverse?
There is no reason we need to be doomed. New universes may be created all
the time. We might even create one ourselves.
Time being the relevant factor: all things are doomed.
Time is just an illusion.
I thought it was a herb.
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The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "Ivan Marsh" |
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| Title: Re: 150 years from now |
03 Mar 2005 10:42:11 AM |
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On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 04:49:19 +0000, CyberDroog wrote:
On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 10:06:51 -0600, Ivan Marsh <annoyed@you.now> wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 23:04:31 +0000, CyberDroog wrote:
As far as I know, the term universe has been relegated to a local
phenomenon. The thing our universe exists in, along with many others, is
the multiverse.
Our universe doesn't exist in anything... it's infinite.
When you say universe, do you mean multiverse?
No.
There is no reason we need to be doomed. New universes may be created all
the time. We might even create one ourselves.
Time being the relevant factor: all things are doomed.
Time is just an illusion.
Time is a dimension that we perceive one point at a time.
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Life is short, but wide. -KV
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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| Title: Re: 150 years from now |
03 Mar 2005 11:08:14 PM |
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On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 10:42:11 -0600, Ivan Marsh <annoyed@you.now> wrote:
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 04:49:19 +0000, CyberDroog wrote:
Time is just an illusion.
Time is a dimension that we perceive one point at a time.
It's just the way in which we experience entropy. It's a part of our
universe, not part of the basic fabric of existence.
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PRAY, v. To ask that the laws of the universe be annulled in behalf of a
single petitioner confessedly unworthy.
- Ambrose Bierce
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| User: "wombn" |
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| Title: Re: 150 years from now |
01 Mar 2005 04:24:50 AM |
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 10:07:59 GMT, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:57:09 -0800, wombn <wombnhearmeroar@comcast.net>
wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 04:53:04 GMT, Charles <ckraft@SPAMTRAPwest.net>
wrote:
Unless we escape to space, everything mankind ever did will be lost and no
one's life will have mattered.
And if we get to space, there is the heat death of the universe, so it
still doesn't matter.
but but but but but....
oh damn. My brain's gone into that same TILT that my dad put it into
when I was 12, when he'd explained infinity in terms of the
universe...
Think multiverse.... there may be plenty of other universes to escape to.
We might even be able to create news one ourselves.
but but but but but....
WAH!!!!!
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If laughter is the best medicine,
then kittens should be covered by our health insurance. :-)
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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| Title: Re: 150 years from now |
01 Mar 2005 04:09:03 AM |
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 04:53:04 GMT, Charles <ckraft@SPAMTRAPwest.net> wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 04:31:17 GMT, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:
Unless we escape to space, everything mankind ever did will be lost and no
one's life will have mattered.
And if we get to space, there is the heat death of the universe, so it
still doesn't matter.
Unless life keeps on advancing and learns more and more refined ways on
controlling energy and it's environment. It might just be possible to open
a stable wormhole and escape into another universe.
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ARREST, v.t. Formally to detain one accused of unusualness.
- Ambrose Bierce
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