Sociology > Depression > Amber Alert & TV: proof they are manipulating the sheeple of theUS by putting this on TV
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04 Mar 2005 09:49:22 PM |
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Amber Alert & TV: proof they are manipulating the sheeple of theUS by putting this on TV |
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(I know, I know, I know, but I have to post this, it's too timely)
http://www.sacunion.com/frameset_offsite.php?offsite=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.recordnet.com%2Fdaily%2Fnews%2Farticles%2F030405-gn-2.php
I mean, yeah, in this case, it was used to actually find the girl and
get her to the police. But think of all the people they riled up and
made fearful in the process! I think the Bush Administration was behind
this. That does it, I'm purchasing that .50 cal this week.
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| User: "RGBs Neighbot" |
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| Title: Re: Amber Alert & TV: proof they are manipulating the sheeple of the US by putting this on TV |
12 Mar 2005 11:07:42 AM |
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From the sheeple who brought you "FUD", now comes "FOD":
Fear On Demand: for when Amber Alerts just aren't enough...
https://www.scanusa.com
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| User: "Whiskers" |
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| Title: Re: Amber Alert & TV: proof they are manipulating the sheeple of the US by putting this on TV |
12 Mar 2005 04:25:24 PM |
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On 2005-03-12, RGB's Neighbot <tempaddr021305@mac.com> wrote:
From the sheeple who brought you "FUD", now comes "FOD":
Fear On Demand: for when Amber Alerts just aren't enough...
https://www.scanusa.com
Strewth. Only the seriously scared (or seriously dodgy) would contemplate
signing up for that!
Interesting that the scheme is operated by private commerce. There has to
be something in it for them.
..-----<http://www.officer.com/article/article.jsp?id=21217&siteSection=9>
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| community-based emergency alerts using SCAN USA Corporation's proprietary
| ``digital neighborhood alert'' system.
| [...]
| SCAN USA Corporation is a wholly owned subsidiary of publicly traded
| Sharp Holding Corporation, (OTCBB:SHAR).
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| About Sharp Holding Corporation: Sharp Holding Corporation invests in and
| manages start-up companies and new technologies poised to capture
| significant market share. These technologies are typically very timely in
| terms of the needs of the marketplace - and can therefore potentially
| generate substantial revenues in a short period of time.
| [...]
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You'd think that a straight-forward database of e-mail addresses and mobile
[cellphone] numbers would suffice, for sending e-mails or text messages to
those who sign up - like the services available 'over here' that supply
sports and lottery results, and traffic reports, and so on. Of course,
those services usually make a straight charge - but they don't require any
particular "proprietary ... system". "SCAN" is apparently free of charge,
so how are they going to "generate substantial revenues in a short period of
time" I wonder?
A website with an RSS or equivalent 'feed' wouldn't even need people to
sign up, and so no subscriber database and no charges for sending the
messages. Perhaps that's just too 'free'?
Now, if a police car were to be driven around a neighbourhood with a
loud-speaker and large posters proclaiming "immediate alerts for
neighborhood crime and terrorism, sexual predators moving into the area,
weather and natural disasters, cyber attacks, fire advisories, health
emergencies, as well as neighborhood public safety information" I wonder
what would happen?
"Hear Ye!! Hear Ye!! A dusky looking man with a beard lives in your
street!!! Someone who might have a go at your children lives next door!!
Hear Ye!! Hear Ye!!! spam is invading your e-mail address!! Some People
want to blow up bombs somewhere!! Hear Ye!! It's going to rain later!!
Don't leave your chip-pan unattended!! Earthquake in Yosemite anytime
soon!! Lock up your women!! Don't kiss strangers!! Coughs and Sneezes
Spread Diseases!! Hear Ye!! Hear Ye!! Look Both Ways before Crossing!!
Eat at Joe's!! Hear Ye!!
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-- Whiskers
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| User: "RGB" |
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| Title: Re: Amber Alert & TV: proof they are manipulating the sheeple of the US by putting this on TV |
16 Mar 2005 11:00:19 PM |
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Hot DAMN, *another* one!!!
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SCAN, the Secure Cops Alert Network, has broadcast an alert:
Date Issued: 2005-03-16 16:47:33 PT
Alert Type: WEATHER ALERT
Alert Priority: INFO
Click on this link to view the entire alert:
http://www.scanusa.com/a/?id=2651&t=&tz=pacific
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| User: "Whiskers" |
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17 Mar 2005 05:13:17 PM |
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On 2005-03-17, RGB <rrggbb@mac.com> wrote:
Hot DAMN, *another* one!!!
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SCAN, the Secure Cops Alert Network, has broadcast an alert:
Date Issued: 2005-03-16 16:47:33 PT
Alert Type: WEATHER ALERT
Alert Priority: INFO
Click on this link to view the entire alert:
http://www.scanusa.com/a/?id=2651&t=&tz=pacific
Still worse than useless, as it still doesn't tell you *what* to look out
for, *where*, and *when*. Those are the three fundamental requirements for
any functional "Alert", surely? All its says, is "Be Afraid!"; but then,
anyone who signs up for such a service must /want/ to be told "Be Afraid!"
at frequent intervals, or they wouldn't even look for such a thing to sign
up for.
Oh, yes, it still says 'Click on this link to view the entire alert'. Now
why would they want you to do that?
The words "Pavlov" and "bell" spring to mind.
If you want real severe weather warnings, sign up for a service that
actually warns you about severe weather, not one that says 'click here'.
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-- Whiskers
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| User: "RGB" |
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| Title: Re: Amber Alert & TV: proof they are manipulating the sheeple of the US by putting this on TV |
17 Mar 2005 08:50:58 PM |
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In article <dhfpg2-ol6.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>,
Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote:
The words "Pavlov" and "bell" spring to mind.
Indeed, but you're the one salivating every time I ring it!
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| User: "Whiskers" |
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| Title: Re: Amber Alert & TV: proof they are manipulating the sheeple of the US by putting this on TV |
18 Mar 2005 07:12:07 AM |
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On 2005-03-18, RGB <rrggbb@mac.com> wrote:
In article <dhfpg2-ol6.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>,
Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote:
The words "Pavlov" and "bell" spring to mind.
Indeed, but you're the one salivating every time I ring it!
Not me; look behind the web-site for the slobber.
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| User: "RGB" |
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18 Mar 2005 08:36:08 AM |
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In article <7m0rg2-qe9.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>,
Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote:
The words "Pavlov" and "bell" spring to mind.
Indeed, but you're the one salivating every time I ring it!
Not me; look behind the web-site for the slobber.
You *do* realize that I'm just posting those silly "SCAN" alerts as
jokes, don't you?
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| User: "Whiskers" |
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18 Mar 2005 04:29:13 PM |
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On 2005-03-18, RGB <rrggbb@mac.com> wrote:
In article <7m0rg2-qe9.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>,
Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote:
The words "Pavlov" and "bell" spring to mind.
Indeed, but you're the one salivating every time I ring it!
Not me; look behind the web-site for the slobber.
You *do* realize that I'm just posting those silly "SCAN" alerts as
jokes, don't you?
I'm sure someone is laughing.
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-- Whiskers
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| User: "Janithor" |
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| Title: Re: Amber Alert & TV: proof they are manipulating the sheeple ofthe US by putting this on TV |
16 Mar 2005 11:12:38 PM |
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RGB wrote:
Hot DAMN, *another* one!!!
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SCAN, the Secure Cops Alert Network, has broadcast an alert:
Date Issued: 2005-03-16 16:47:33 PT
Alert Type: WEATHER ALERT
Alert Priority: INFO
Click on this link to view the entire alert:
http://www.scanusa.com/a/?id=2651&t=&tz=pacific
aaaaayyyyyyyyiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeee
Stop it, you're scaring me!
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| User: "RGBs Neighbot" |
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| Title: Re: Amber Alert & TV: proof they are manipulating the sheeple of the US by putting this on TV |
04 Mar 2005 10:17:31 PM |
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In article <42292C30.3020704@comcast.net>,
Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
I mean, yeah, in this case, it was used to actually find the girl
and get her to the police.
Pity you don't realize that that says it all, right there. It was used
to actually find the girl AND GET HER TO THE POLICE.
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| User: "wombn" |
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04 Mar 2005 11:56:36 PM |
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On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 04:17:31 GMT, RGB's Neighbot
<tempaddr021305@mac.com> wrote:
In article <42292C30.3020704@comcast.net>,
Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
I mean, yeah, in this case, it was used to actually find the girl
and get her to the police.
Pity you don't realize that that says it all, right there. It was used
to actually find the girl AND GET HER TO THE POLICE.
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If laughter is the best medicine,
then kittens should be covered by our health insurance. :-)
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| User: "RGBs Neighbot" |
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05 Mar 2005 12:26:15 AM |
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In article <fgii2153oqbokcne1gvt4enhrc47jteq66@4ax.com>,
wombn <wombnhearmeroar@comcast.net> wrote:
I mean, yeah, in this case, it was used to actually find the girl
and get her to the police.
Pity you don't realize that that says it all, right there. It was
used to actually find the girl AND GET HER TO THE POLICE.
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How much more obvious could it be that the whole point of this "alert
system" is to drive the sheep straight into the arms of your government?
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| User: "wombn" |
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05 Mar 2005 03:12:13 AM |
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On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 06:26:15 GMT, RGB's Neighbot
<tempaddr021305@mac.com> wrote:
In article <fgii2153oqbokcne1gvt4enhrc47jteq66@4ax.com>,
wombn <wombnhearmeroar@comcast.net> wrote:
I mean, yeah, in this case, it was used to actually find the girl
and get her to the police.
Pity you don't realize that that says it all, right there. It was
used to actually find the girl AND GET HER TO THE POLICE.
?
How much more obvious could it be that the whole point of this "alert
system" is to drive the sheep straight into the arms of your government?
ah. Of course.
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If laughter is the best medicine,
then kittens should be covered by our health insurance. :-)
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05 Mar 2005 02:32:31 PM |
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Janithor wrote in alt.support.depression:
x-no-archive: yes
(I know, I know, I know, but I have to post this, it's too timely)
http://www.sacunion.com/frameset_offsite.php?offsite=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.r
ecordnet.com%2Fdaily%2Fnews%2Farticles%2F030405-gn-2.php
I mean, yeah, in this case, it was used to actually find the girl and
get her to the police. But think of all the people they riled up and
made fearful in the process! I think the Bush Administration was
behind this. That does it, I'm purchasing that .50 cal this week.
So the kidnapper was so brainwashed that he kept watching telly instead of
making his getaway? Wow, impressive.
Don't get a gun, get one of those fancy mobile phones that you can watch
television on, and point that at your assailant.
Jernau
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The only failure in life
is the failure to try
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| User: "wombn" |
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05 Mar 2005 05:35:54 PM |
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On 05 Mar 2005 20:32:31 GMT, Jernau Gurgeh
<jernaugurgeh@*****.this.*****> wrote:
Don't get a gun, get one of those fancy mobile phones that you can watch
television on, and point that at your assailant.
HAHAHA!!!!!!
I needed that!
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If laughter is the best medicine,
then kittens should be covered by our health insurance. :-)
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| User: "RGBs Neighbot" |
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05 Mar 2005 10:03:39 PM |
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OK, pajama time:
As best I can understand it, the Whiskers-Dehn Thesis appears to be a
highly fluid cluster of minimally but tangentially related claims
engineered for rapid deployment in response to any possible evidence
that the Amber Alert system is of value. I have to admit, for what it
is, it works pretty well. The main components are as follows:
1) The Amber Alert system is controlled by the United States Government
for the purpose of scaring its "sheeplike" citizens. Any effect on the
recovery of kidnapped children is purely incidental, probably
apocryphal, and completely irrelevant.
2) The Amber Alert system is the same as the DHS color codes system,
because both are used in the US, and amber is a color, and how are we
supposed to know the difference, as if there *was* a difference, duh.
3) The Amber Alert system is ineffective at rescuing children because in
addition to radio and highway signs, the alerts are displayed on TV, and
people don't have TV's in their cars, and if somebody sees one on TV and
calls the cops about something, well, why weren't the cops doing their
job in the first place, duh.
4) The Amber Alert system is worthless because even if it does help get
a child back, the news media should have been reporting the story anyway
but weren't because the US is a fucked up place.
5) The Amber Alert system is bad because some local newspapers have made
claims about it that are incomplete and somewhat confusing, plus they
gave a little girl's name, so never mind those goddamned rescued kids,
already, this is NOT about rescuing kids, this is about the DHS color
codes, Iraq, George W. Bush, and Pure Evil.
6) Thor says obnoxious things because he's scared, presumably of his own
government.
7) LOL, heeheehee.
That's about it. Somebody please let me know if I've omitted anything.
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| User: "Charles" |
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05 Mar 2005 10:11:08 PM |
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On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 04:03:39 GMT, RGB's Neighbot
<tempaddr021305@mac.com> wrote:
OK, pajama time:
As best I can understand it, the Whiskers-Dehn Thesis appears to be a
highly fluid cluster of minimally but tangentially related claims
engineered for rapid deployment in response to any possible evidence
that the Amber Alert system is of value. I have to admit, for what it
is, it works pretty well. The main components are as follows:
1) The Amber Alert system is controlled by the United States Government
for the purpose of scaring its "sheeplike" citizens. Any effect on the
recovery of kidnapped children is purely incidental, probably
apocryphal, and completely irrelevant.
2) The Amber Alert system is the same as the DHS color codes system,
because both are used in the US, and amber is a color, and how are we
supposed to know the difference, as if there *was* a difference, duh.
3) The Amber Alert system is ineffective at rescuing children because in
addition to radio and highway signs, the alerts are displayed on TV, and
people don't have TV's in their cars, and if somebody sees one on TV and
calls the cops about something, well, why weren't the cops doing their
job in the first place, duh.
4) The Amber Alert system is worthless because even if it does help get
a child back, the news media should have been reporting the story anyway
but weren't because the US is a fucked up place.
5) The Amber Alert system is bad because some local newspapers have made
claims about it that are incomplete and somewhat confusing, plus they
gave a little girl's name, so never mind those goddamned rescued kids,
already, this is NOT about rescuing kids, this is about the DHS color
codes, Iraq, George W. Bush, and Pure Evil.
6) Thor says obnoxious things because he's scared, presumably of his own
government.
7) LOL, heeheehee.
That's about it. Somebody please let me know if I've omitted anything.
I think there was something that two sentences in the same paragraph
have nothing to do with each other, and that it is a well know
propaganda trick to put them together like that.
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Charles
Does not play well with others.
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| User: "RGBs Neighbot" |
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05 Mar 2005 10:17:47 PM |
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In article <ik0l215h3a8vv4pnp3l4qb6oll5o9iu5ba@4ax.com>,
Charles <ckraft@SPAMTRAPwest.net> wrote:
I think there was something that two sentences in the same paragraph
have nothing to do with each other, and that it is a well know
propaganda trick to put them together like that.
Ah, thanks.
8) Arguments in support of the Amber Alert system tend to rely heavily
on paragraphs containing two unrelated sentences. And while the state
has already poured up to $44 million into stopping the flood, closing
the breach and pumping out the lake that covered Jones Tract, about
20,000 gallons of water per minute still flow through the rocks used to
shore the faulty levee, estimates attorney Dante Nomellini, who
represents farmers on Lower Jones Tract.
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| User: "Janithor" |
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06 Mar 2005 01:07:49 AM |
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RGB's Neighbot wrote:
OK, pajama time:
As best I can understand it, the Whiskers-Dehn Thesis appears to be a
highly fluid cluster of minimally but tangentially related claims
engineered for rapid deployment in response to any possible evidence
that the Amber Alert system is of value. I have to admit, for what it
is, it works pretty well. The main components are as follows:
1) The Amber Alert system is controlled by the United States Government
for the purpose of scaring its "sheeplike" citizens. Any effect on the
recovery of kidnapped children is purely incidental, probably
apocryphal, and completely irrelevant.
2) The Amber Alert system is the same as the DHS color codes system,
because both are used in the US, and amber is a color, and how are we
supposed to know the difference, as if there *was* a difference, duh.
3) The Amber Alert system is ineffective at rescuing children because in
addition to radio and highway signs, the alerts are displayed on TV, and
people don't have TV's in their cars, and if somebody sees one on TV and
calls the cops about something, well, why weren't the cops doing their
job in the first place, duh.
4) The Amber Alert system is worthless because even if it does help get
a child back, the news media should have been reporting the story anyway
but weren't because the US is a fucked up place.
5) The Amber Alert system is bad because some local newspapers have made
claims about it that are incomplete and somewhat confusing, plus they
gave a little girl's name, so never mind those goddamned rescued kids,
already, this is NOT about rescuing kids, this is about the DHS color
codes, Iraq, George W. Bush, and Pure Evil.
6) Thor says obnoxious things because he's scared, presumably of his own
government.
7) LOL, heeheehee.
That's about it. Somebody please let me know if I've omitted anything.
I don't think the arguments are about Amber Alerts at all. Clearly. It
could a system designed to save puppies from being squished to death,
and they would find something nefarious in it. There's a lot more to
this than the argument itself, and only Thomas and Whiskers can clue us
in to what that is. I'm not sure they are all that aware of it either.
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| User: "RGBs Neighbot" |
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06 Mar 2005 01:42:00 AM |
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In article <422AAC39.40701@comcast.net>,
Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
I don't think the arguments are about Amber Alerts at all.
Well, of course they are and of course they're not. But although we can
suggest, quite sincerely and with good reason, that the Whiskers-Dehn
ravings are psychopathology-driven, we can't (at least I can't) really
claim to be doing so in their interests of their well-being, and, more
importantly, we're not exactly likely to facilitate resolution of any
issues by such suggestions. (I mean, do you *really* expect Whiskers to
answer your "sincere" question about whether he's in therapy?) So I
approach the debate on its own terms. If you can manage to get W and D
to openly and honestly introspect about how exactly their psychiatric
problems are manifesting in their political positions, more power to you.
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| User: "Whiskers" |
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06 Mar 2005 12:42:19 PM |
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On 2005-03-06, RGB's Neighbot <tempaddr021305@mac.com> wrote:
In article <422AAC39.40701@comcast.net>,
Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
I don't think the arguments are about Amber Alerts at all.
Well, of course they are and of course they're not. But although we can
suggest, quite sincerely and with good reason, that the Whiskers-Dehn
ravings are psychopathology-driven, we can't (at least I can't) really
claim to be doing so in their interests of their well-being, and, more
importantly, we're not exactly likely to facilitate resolution of any
issues by such suggestions. (I mean, do you *really* expect Whiskers to
answer your "sincere" question about whether he's in therapy?) So I
approach the debate on its own terms. If you can manage to get W and D
to openly and honestly introspect about how exactly their psychiatric
problems are manifesting in their political positions, more power to you.
The 'ad hominem' tactic is resorted to only when the argument itself is
lost, in the hope of discrediting the opponent's argument by spreading FUD
about the person instead of addressing the argument.
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| User: "RGBs Neighbot" |
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06 Mar 2005 01:58:29 PM |
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In article <bhvrf2-9sb.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>,
Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote:
The 'ad hominem' tactic is resorted to only when the argument itself
is lost, in the hope of discrediting the opponent's argument by
spreading FUD about the person instead of addressing the argument.
Actually, it can be completely appropriate when the opponent refuses to
conduct a debate on a rational, fair level. I've made my points about
the alert business thoroughly enough. Now I'm more curious about just
what *is* wrong with your head. You've got a lot of money invested in
some very strange stocks.
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| User: "Janithor" |
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06 Mar 2005 02:06:56 PM |
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RGB's Neighbot wrote:
In article <bhvrf2-9sb.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>,
Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote:
The 'ad hominem' tactic is resorted to only when the argument itself
is lost, in the hope of discrediting the opponent's argument by
spreading FUD about the person instead of addressing the argument.
Actually, it can be completely appropriate when the opponent refuses to
conduct a debate on a rational, fair level. I've made my points about
the alert business thoroughly enough. Now I'm more curious about just
what *is* wrong with your head. You've got a lot of money invested in
some very strange stocks.
Said the Bush operative sent here to sow confusion and wreak havoc in
this newsgroup. I'm on to you, dude.
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06 Mar 2005 01:59:38 PM |
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Whiskers wrote:
On 2005-03-06, RGB's Neighbot <tempaddr021305@mac.com> wrote:
In article <422AAC39.40701@comcast.net>,
Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
I don't think the arguments are about Amber Alerts at all.
Well, of course they are and of course they're not. But although we can
suggest, quite sincerely and with good reason, that the Whiskers-Dehn
ravings are psychopathology-driven, we can't (at least I can't) really
claim to be doing so in their interests of their well-being, and, more
importantly, we're not exactly likely to facilitate resolution of any
issues by such suggestions. (I mean, do you *really* expect Whiskers to
answer your "sincere" question about whether he's in therapy?) So I
approach the debate on its own terms. If you can manage to get W and D
to openly and honestly introspect about how exactly their psychiatric
problems are manifesting in their political positions, more power to you.
The 'ad hominem' tactic is resorted to only when the argument itself is
lost, in the hope of discrediting the opponent's argument by spreading FUD
about the person instead of addressing the argument.
This from a guy who argues that cops are there only for an excuse to
carry guns. Like I said, tinfoil.
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| Title: Re: Amber Alert & TV: proof they are manipulating the sheeple of the US by putting this on TV |
06 Mar 2005 02:09:59 PM |
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In article <422B611C.5070404@comcast.net>,
Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
This from a guy who argues that cops are there only for an excuse to
carry guns. Like I said, tinfoil.
There does seem to be a genuinely paranoid thread running through a lot
of Whiskers's concerns... cops interested only in killing people,
medical agencies spreading lethal disinformation about depression, bogus
child abductions aimed at terrorizing the population... sign. Amateur
diagnose can be *so* tempting sometimes.
Where does the "tinfoil hat" idea come from, anyway, I wonder???
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| User: "RGBs Neighbot" |
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| Title: Re: Amber Alert & TV: proof they are manipulating the sheeple of the US by putting this on TV |
06 Mar 2005 02:11:33 PM |
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In article <rsJWd.4281106$f47.768197@news.easynews.com>,
RGB's Neighbot <tempaddr021305@mac.com> wrote:
sign.
WHOOPS! Read "sigh".
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| User: "Whiskers" |
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| Title: Re: Amber Alert & TV: proof they are manipulating the sheeple of the US by putting this on TV |
06 Mar 2005 04:36:03 PM |
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On 2005-03-06, RGB's Neighbot <tempaddr021305@mac.com> wrote:
In article <422B611C.5070404@comcast.net>,
Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
This from a guy who argues that cops are there only for an excuse to
carry guns. Like I said, tinfoil.
There does seem to be a genuinely paranoid thread running through a lot
of Whiskers's concerns... cops interested only in killing people,
I never said that; someone twisted their own interpretation of what I
wrote, perhaps?
medical agencies spreading lethal disinformation about depression,
Implying that 'cheering up a bit' and 'getting some exercise' is a cure for
Depression, is dangerous.
bogus
child abductions aimed at terrorizing the population... sign.
Who said anything about bogus child abductions?
Amateur
diagnose can be *so* tempting sometimes.
Where does the "tinfoil hat" idea come from, anyway, I wonder???
The USA. Of course, it's really aluminium foil, but they can't spell
that.
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-- Whiskers
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| User: "RGBs Neighbot" |
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| Title: Re: Amber Alert & TV: proof they are manipulating the sheeple of the US by putting this on TV |
06 Mar 2005 06:02:15 PM |
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In article <j7dsf2-qj8.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>,
Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote:
There does seem to be a genuinely paranoid thread running through a lot
of Whiskers's concerns... cops interested only in killing people,
I never said that; someone twisted their own interpretation of what I
wrote, perhaps?
As I recall, what you said was that cops (at least in the United
States, of course) become cops because they like carrying guns because
they like to shoot people. I know, it must sound silly this long after
the fact.
medical agencies spreading lethal disinformation about depression,
Implying that 'cheering up a bit' and 'getting some exercise' is a cure for
Depression, is dangerous.
What that DANGEROUS article actually said was, "Often depression
responds to structure... Stay active. Counteract the physical slowdown
of depression by exercising". It's a twisted and sadly bitter
interpretation indeed that turns this into advice to "cheer up", or the
claim that a "cure" is being presented.
bogus child abductions aimed at terrorizing the population
Who said anything about bogus child abductions?
Um, that would be... you. You referred to Amber Alerts as presenting
"imaginary dangers" and, of this particular alert, you said said that
"it's not even clear that the child was unwilling to go with the
alleged abductor".
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| User: "Whiskers" |
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| Title: Re: Amber Alert & TV: proof they are manipulating the sheeple of the US by putting this on TV |
07 Mar 2005 08:22:02 AM |
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On 2005-03-07, RGB's Neighbot <tempaddr021305@mac.com> wrote:
In article <j7dsf2-qj8.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>,
Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote:
There does seem to be a genuinely paranoid thread running through a lot
of Whiskers's concerns... cops interested only in killing people,
I never said that; someone twisted their own interpretation of what I
wrote, perhaps?
As I recall, what you said was that cops (at least in the United
States, of course) become cops because they like carrying guns because
they like to shoot people. I know, it must sound silly this long after
the fact.
I said (and I'll say it again) that one of the motivations for some people
volunteering for an armed police force, is the prospect of being paid to
carry and use firearms.
I have also said, more than once, that the purpose of a firearm is to kill,
and that anyone carrying a firearm must be prepered to use it for that
purpose, otherwise they are putting themselves in more danger than if they
were unarmed.
Someone else extended that to infer that 'all cops are killers'. That is
not what I said.
medical agencies spreading lethal disinformation about depression,
Implying that 'cheering up a bit' and 'getting some exercise' is a cure for
Depression, is dangerous.
What that DANGEROUS article actually said was, "Often depression
responds to structure... Stay active. Counteract the physical slowdown
of depression by exercising". It's a twisted and sadly bitter
interpretation indeed that turns this into advice to "cheer up", or the
claim that a "cure" is being presented.
That's the 'pull yourself together' approach. At best, ineffective.
bogus child abductions aimed at terrorizing the population
Who said anything about bogus child abductions?
Um, that would be... you. You referred to Amber Alerts as presenting
"imaginary dangers" and, of this particular alert, you said said that
"it's not even clear that the child was unwilling to go with the
alleged abductor".
You really do need to learn how to read and understand what people are
actually writing, rather than read some of the words and imagine for
yourelf what is being said.
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-- Whiskers
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| User: "RGBs Neighbot" |
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| Title: Re: Amber Alert & TV: proof they are manipulating the sheeple of the US by putting this on TV |
07 Mar 2005 11:03:31 AM |
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In article <al4uf2-0t9.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>,
Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote:
medical agencies spreading lethal disinformation about depression,
Implying that 'cheering up a bit' and 'getting some exercise' is a
cure for Depression, is dangerous.
What that DANGEROUS article actually said was, "Often depression
responds to structure... Stay active. Counteract the physical slowdown
of depression by exercising"...
That's the 'pull yourself together' approach.
No, it's very specific advice on things to *do* that may be helpful. You
can pout and sulk and call it names like the "cheer up" approach or the
"pull yourself together" approach, but the fact remains, the
recommendation to stay active is concrete, behavioral, and something
that can be implemented as a way of getting depression under control. It
is hardly merely telling people to stop being depressed. And it works
for a lot of people.
At best, ineffective.
For you, perhaps. There are people here, myself included, who will say
otherwise. But God forbid somebody else should benefit from advice that
you, the Dog in the Manger, cannot or will not take.
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