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Topic: Sociology > Depression
User: "ponette"
Date: 21 May 2005 12:40:27 PM
Object: And the other side of it?
My 10 YO daughter is in her room today for throwing a block at a
kindergartner's head yesterday. She says, defensively, "He deserved
it." She will be in there until she develops a different point of view
regarding the incident.
I'm really hoping her new school next year might be able to help "mold
her" into a non-block-throwing (i.e., more respectful) person. But,
right now, next fall seems a long way off.
I think she has short timer's disease, frankly.
p
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User: "gravity"

Title: Re: And the other side of it? 21 May 2005 01:26:28 PM
"ponette" <ponette0000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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My 10 YO daughter is in her room today for throwing a block at a
kindergartner's head yesterday.

haha. i remember the first time i knocked someone upside the head with a
toy pot in kindergarten. i had slight discipline issues all through school.
many detentions.
i think i was just bored with infanile coursework. i'd recommend evaluating
the skillset of the kid, because they might need to be bumped up a few
grades (a few years down the road).
m.
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User: "wombn"

Title: Re: And the other side of it? 21 May 2005 02:26:31 PM
On Sat, 21 May 2005 13:26:28 -0500, "gravity" <gravity@example.net>
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"ponette" <ponette0000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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My 10 YO daughter is in her room today for throwing a block at a
kindergartner's head yesterday.


haha. i remember the first time i knocked someone upside the head with a
toy pot in kindergarten. i had slight discipline issues all through school.
many detentions.

i think i was just bored with infanile coursework. i'd recommend evaluating
the skillset of the kid, because they might need to be bumped up a few
grades (a few years down the road).

Same thing with me. When teachers reported my discipline problems,
mom told them flat out, "She's bored. Give her more work to do."
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User: "ponette"

Title: Re: And the other side of it? 21 May 2005 02:40:37 PM
On Sat, 21 May 2005 12:26:31 -0700, wombn
<wombnhearmeroar@comcast.net> wrote:

On Sat, 21 May 2005 13:26:28 -0500, "gravity" <gravity@example.net>
wrote:


"ponette" <ponette0000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:08su81ddgu5bg2m70uae95ddb7ig0ucsib@4ax.com...

My 10 YO daughter is in her room today for throwing a block at a
kindergartner's head yesterday.


haha. i remember the first time i knocked someone upside the head with a
toy pot in kindergarten. i had slight discipline issues all through school.
many detentions.

i think i was just bored with infanile coursework. i'd recommend evaluating
the skillset of the kid, because they might need to be bumped up a few
grades (a few years down the road).

Thanks for the suggestion; it's a good one, but we have that issue
under control. She's in a gifted program now (which still bores her).
Next year she will be attending a different school, which will be
much more challenging than her current school is. Thank goodness. I
think it should help.


Same thing with me. When teachers reported my discipline problems,
mom told them flat out, "She's bored. Give her more work to do."

My daughter *is* bored. There's no question of that. We're working on
changing that!
Thanks, gravity and wombn, for writing.
p
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User: ""

Title: Re: And the other side of it? 23 May 2005 10:28:33 AM
gravity wrote:

"ponette" <ponette0000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:08su81ddgu5bg2m70uae95ddb7ig0ucsib@4ax.com...

My 10 YO daughter is in her room today for throwing a block at a
kindergartner's head yesterday.


haha. i remember the first time i knocked someone upside the head

with a

toy pot in kindergarten. i had slight discipline issues all through

school.

many detentions.


When I was in kindergarden,I bit someone on the arm...he had to go
to the hospital to get stiches...my mom said that his mother was very
gracious about it...I still remember it very well,his name,and the
incident...I have such a strange memory...My long term memory is
good,but my short term memory is really awful...
-"Alvintchase"
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User: "ponette"

Title: Re: And the other side of it? 23 May 2005 12:34:28 PM
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relayer211@hotmail.com wrote:

gravity wrote:


haha. i remember the first time i knocked someone upside the head
with a toy pot in kindergarten.
i had slight discipline issues all through school.
many detentions.




When I was in kindergarden,I bit someone on the arm...he had to go
to the hospital to get stiches...my mom said that his mother was very
gracious about it...I still remember it very well,his name,and the
incident...I have such a strange memory...My long term memory is
good,but my short term memory is really awful...

-"Alvintchase"

I got teased all the time, growing up, and when I was in 3rd grade, I'd
respond by hitting kids over the head with my lunchbox. That is, until
my mother told me what the consequences would be: I'd have to take my
lunch to school in a paper bag. Oh, the mortification! I stopped
*immediately.*
p
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User: ""

Title: Re: And the other side of it? 23 May 2005 01:01:26 PM
ponette wrote:

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relayer211@hotmail.com wrote:

gravity wrote:


haha. i remember the first time i knocked someone upside the

head

with a toy pot in kindergarten.
i had slight discipline issues all through school.
many detentions.




When I was in kindergarden,I bit someone on the arm...he had to

go

to the hospital to get stiches...my mom said that his mother was

very

gracious about it...I still remember it very well,his name,and the
incident...I have such a strange memory...My long term memory is
good,but my short term memory is really awful...

-"Alvintchase"


I got teased all the time, growing up, and when I was in 3rd grade,

I'd

respond by hitting kids over the head with my lunchbox. That is,

until

my mother told me what the consequences would be: I'd have to take my
lunch to school in a paper bag. Oh, the mortification! I stopped
*immediately.*

p

I kind of wish I fought back more-in 4th grade that is...That
was,by far,the toughest year for me in terms of kids being mean to
me...I really didn't know how to fight back at all...1st through 3rd
grade,and 5th through 12 were much better,because thankfully,I changed
school systems...It's definatly hard to be a kid when you're
"different",when you don't fit in...
-"Alvintchase"
.




User: "Kenster"

Title: Re: And the other side of it? 21 May 2005 02:31:51 PM
On Sat, 21 May 2005 10:40:27 -0700, ponette <ponette0000@yahoo.com>
wrote:

My 10 YO daughter is in her room today for throwing a block at a
kindergartner's head yesterday. She says, defensively, "He deserved
it." She will be in there until she develops a different point of view
regarding the incident.

I'm really hoping her new school next year might be able to help "mold
her" into a non-block-throwing (i.e., more respectful) person. But,
right now, next fall seems a long way off.

I think she has short timer's disease, frankly.

p

I have to ask, is she an only child? I know I should probably know
the answer to this but I don't.
I'm lucky in this regard as my 3 boys all beat up on each other at
home so much that they would have no fun doing it to anyone at school,
so I don't have to worry about it...:o)
Kenster
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User: "lisa in mass."

Title: Re: And the other side of it? 21 May 2005 02:48:46 PM
Kenster wrote...

On Sat, 21 May 2005 10:40:27 -0700, ponette
<ponette0000@yahoo.com> wrote:

My 10 YO daughter is in her room today for throwing a block
at a kindergartner's head yesterday. She says, defensively,
"He deserved it." She will be in there until she develops a
different point of view regarding the incident.

I'm really hoping her new school next year might be able to
help "mold her" into a non-block-throwing (i.e., more
respectful) person. But, right now, next fall seems a long
way off.

I think she has short timer's disease, frankly.

p


I have to ask, is she an only child? I know I should
probably know the answer to this but I don't.

I'm lucky in this regard as my 3 boys all beat up on each
other at home so much that they would have no fun doing it
to anyone at school, so I don't have to worry about
it...:o)

Kenster


i find that with my boys, too, kenster. they beat up on each
other all the time at home. i get involved if there's actual
blood or swellings or objects in eyes. otherwise, i don't want
to hear about it. it's just continual. at school, otoh, they've
never been a problem at all. they're both in the after-school
program together, too, and get along fine there, from what we're
told.
-lisa
.

User: "ponette"

Title: Re: And the other side of it? 21 May 2005 02:46:54 PM
On Sat, 21 May 2005 19:31:51 GMT, Kenster <kensterbpd@hotmail.com>
wrote:

I have to ask, is she an only child?

Yep, she is.

I know I should probably know
the answer to this but I don't.

Naah, there's no reason you'd know. I don't think I've ever spelled it
out.

I'm lucky in this regard as my 3 boys all beat up on each other at
home so much that they would have no fun doing it to anyone at school,
so I don't have to worry about it...:o)

Is *that* why people have more than one kid?! :)
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User: "wombn"

Title: Re: And the other side of it? 21 May 2005 02:26:38 PM
On Sat, 21 May 2005 10:40:27 -0700, ponette <ponette0000@yahoo.com>
wrote:

My 10 YO daughter is in her room today for throwing a block at a
kindergartner's head yesterday. She says, defensively, "He deserved
it." She will be in there until she develops a different point of view
regarding the incident.

I'm really hoping her new school next year might be able to help "mold
her" into a non-block-throwing (i.e., more respectful) person. But,
right now, next fall seems a long way off.

I think she has short timer's disease, frankly.

what is short timer's disease?
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User: "ponette"

Title: Re: And the other side of it? 21 May 2005 02:35:16 PM
On Sat, 21 May 2005 12:26:38 -0700, wombn
<wombnhearmeroar@comcast.net> wrote:

I think she has short timer's disease, frankly.


what is short timer's disease?

I've usually heard it used in terms of a job. Here's an example: Say
you have only a couple of weeks left before you start at another
company. You start getting sloppy, acting up a bit, coming in late,
because you know you are on your way out anyway. That's short timer's
disease.
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User: "wombn"

Title: Re: And the other side of it? 21 May 2005 05:45:05 PM
On Sat, 21 May 2005 12:35:16 -0700, ponette <ponette0000@yahoo.com>
wrote:

On Sat, 21 May 2005 12:26:38 -0700, wombn
<wombnhearmeroar@comcast.net> wrote:

I think she has short timer's disease, frankly.


what is short timer's disease?


I've usually heard it used in terms of a job. Here's an example: Say
you have only a couple of weeks left before you start at another
company. You start getting sloppy, acting up a bit, coming in late,
because you know you are on your way out anyway. That's short timer's
disease.

oh oh oh cuz school's almost out?
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User: "packrat"

Title: Re: And the other side of it? 21 May 2005 09:48:58 PM
wow, I'd be furious if one of my kids did that. I have no advice, not that
you're looking for it, sounds like you have it under control, as much as you
can. Good luck and hope that this is just a phase that passes quickly. I
hope it's not going to be a pattern of behavior. It's always so easy for a
kid to show how tough they are to someone much younger and probably smaller.
I see it with my kids.
Parenting is so rewarding at times, isn't it?
Take care
"ponette" <ponette0000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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My 10 YO daughter is in her room today for throwing a block at a
kindergartner's head yesterday. She says, defensively, "He deserved
it." She will be in there until she develops a different point of view
regarding the incident.

I'm really hoping her new school next year might be able to help "mold
her" into a non-block-throwing (i.e., more respectful) person. But,
right now, next fall seems a long way off.

I think she has short timer's disease, frankly.

p


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User: "ponette"

Title: Re: And the other side of it? 21 May 2005 11:24:29 PM
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packrat wrote:

wow, I'd be furious if one of my kids did that. I have no advice,

not that

you're looking for it, sounds like you have it under control, as much

as you

can. Good luck and hope that this is just a phase that passes

quickly. I

hope it's not going to be a pattern of behavior. It's always so easy

for a

kid to show how tough they are to someone much younger and probably

smaller.

I see it with my kids.

She's not the bullying type; that's not what this is about. She has an
extreme view of fairness and equity. She says the little girl called
her a "*****" and the daycare won't do anything about it, so she
somehow sees the block throwing as justified. What we had to get
through to her was that, no matter what anyone says or does, it's NOT
okay to heft blocks at him or her. And that she needs to learn to talk
to the adults in charge.

Parenting is so rewarding at times, isn't it?

Dang, it's hard.

Take care

Thanks, you too.
p,
who would sometimes, as a parent,
prefer to roll over and play dead
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