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"BoredToTears" |
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14 May 2007 03:06:36 PM |
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Apparently |
British school children swear too much. The wee basturts.
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| User: "used2be" |
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| Title: Re: Apparently |
14 May 2007 03:43:12 PM |
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"BoredToTears" <beejayceee1@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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British school children swear too much. The wee basturts.
why does that not surprize me in the least?
:D
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| User: "BoredToTears" |
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| Title: Re: Apparently |
14 May 2007 03:51:55 PM |
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On 14 May, 21:43, "used2be" <used...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"BoredToTears" <beejayce...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1179173196.578984.127240@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
British school children swear too much. The wee basturts.
why does that not surprize me in the least?
:D
Cos we're just too predictable.
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| User: "used2be" |
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| Title: Re: Apparently |
14 May 2007 04:01:33 PM |
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"BoredToTears" <beejayceee1@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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On 14 May, 21:43, "used2be" <used...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"BoredToTears" <beejayce...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1179173196.578984.127240@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
British school children swear too much. The wee basturts.
why does that not surprize me in the least?
:D
Cos we're just too predictable.
but seriously...british children *do* curse alot, don't they? i mean
"young" children.
heck, maybe our amurican kids do it too and my senses have just become
dulled to it.
dulled.
is that a word?
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| User: "BoredToTears" |
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| Title: Re: Apparently |
15 May 2007 06:13:09 AM |
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On 14 May, 22:01, "used2be" <used...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"BoredToTears" <beejayce...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1179175915.072924.327140@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On 14 May, 21:43, "used2be" <used...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"BoredToTears" <beejayce...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1179173196.578984.127240@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
British school children swear too much. The wee basturts.
why does that not surprize me in the least?
:D
Cos we're just too predictable.
but seriously...british children *do* curse alot, don't they? i mean
"young" children.
Depends what you mean by "young". I really don't see swearing as a
problem *if* (and it's a big "if") there are proper boundaries. There
is too little respect for other people and, more importantly, for ones-
self, it seems to me. In saying that, though, I don't hear people
swearing very often on a day to day basis and it still turns heads
when it does happen. You can almost hear the thoughts of the people
around you as the perpetrator is immediately classed in everyone's
mind as an ill-educated moron.
I still remember the joy of telling my pals in the playground to "*****
off!" at the top of my lungs, when I was 8 or 9. I also remember the
sheer terror when a teacher caught me doing it. There doesn't seem to
be that respect for authority any more.
heck, maybe our amurican kids do it too and my senses have just become
dulled to it.
I don't know about that but I know there's a lot more swearing on tv
here than there but children should be in bed by the time that stuff
comes on, so I blame the parents! String 'em up! I find it kind of
bizarre sometimes when I see the things that get bleeped on programmes
like "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart". I mean, we're all adults,
aren't we? Civilisation as we know isn't going to come to an end cos
someone said "*****" on tv! (Btw, The Daily Show is shown here on a far
from mainstream digital tv channel, More4, at 8.30pm, the day after
you get it. What time is it broadcast there?).
dulled.
is that a word?
It was the last time I checked.
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| User: "used2be" |
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| Title: Re: Apparently |
15 May 2007 03:32:13 PM |
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"BoredToTears" <beejayceee1@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1179227589.436046.114550@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On 14 May, 22:01, "used2be" <used...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"BoredToTears" <beejayce...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1179175915.072924.327140@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On 14 May, 21:43, "used2be" <used...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"BoredToTears" <beejayce...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1179173196.578984.127240@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
British school children swear too much. The wee basturts.
why does that not surprize me in the least?
:D
Cos we're just too predictable.
but seriously...british children *do* curse alot, don't they? i mean
"young" children.
Depends what you mean by "young". I really don't see swearing as a
problem *if* (and it's a big "if") there are proper boundaries. There
is too little respect for other people and, more importantly, for ones-
self, it seems to me.
exactly. especially by young folks today.
In saying that, though, I don't hear people
swearing very often on a day to day basis and it still turns heads
when it does happen. You can almost hear the thoughts of the people
around you as the perpetrator is immediately classed in everyone's
mind as an ill-educated moron.
with teenagers, foul language abounds. not with mine, thankfully, but the
ones i see (and hear) in the malls. and plenty of alyssa's (my 16 yr old)
friends curse right in front of their parents at ballgames with no worries
of reprimand. i'm constantly amazed by that. and appalled.
I still remember the joy of telling my pals in the playground to "*****
off!" at the top of my lungs, when I was 8 or 9. I also remember the
sheer terror when a teacher caught me doing it.
oh my!
There doesn't seem to
be that respect for authority any more.
and therein lies the problem.
also, there is a massive lack of common courtesy these days.
heck, maybe our amurican kids do it too and my senses have just become
dulled to it.
I don't know about that but I know there's a lot more swearing on tv
here than there but children should be in bed by the time that stuff
comes on, so I blame the parents! String 'em up!
don't get me wrong...i blame the parents too! TOTALLY!!! my husband and i
have no trouble keeping our children's mouths clean, so i don't see why it's
so difficult for so many other folks. i know what it boils down to, though.
priorities. and for most folks today, clean language and basic politeness
just isn't a priority anymore.
I find it kind of
bizarre sometimes when I see the things that get bleeped on programmes
like "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart". I mean, we're all adults,
aren't we? Civilisation as we know isn't going to come to an end cos
someone said "*****" on tv!
that's true, but we also ought to be able to turn on the TV at a certain
time of day, when children are present, and not be subjected to the "f"
word!!! i resent that i have to explain to my 8 yr old SO OFTEN why she
can't say the words she hears on TV!
(Btw, The Daily Show is shown here on a far
from mainstream digital tv channel, More4, at 8.30pm, the day after
you get it. What time is it broadcast there?).
i don't know. i've never watched that show.
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| User: "BoredToTears" |
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| Title: Re: Apparently |
15 May 2007 05:20:01 PM |
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On 15 May, 21:32, "used2be" <used...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"BoredToTears" <beejayce...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1179227589.436046.114550@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On 14 May, 22:01, "used2be" <used...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"BoredToTears" <beejayce...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1179175915.072924.327140@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On 14 May, 21:43, "used2be" <used...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"BoredToTears" <beejayce...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1179173196.578984.127240@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
British school children swear too much. The wee basturts.
why does that not surprize me in the least?
:D
Cos we're just too predictable.
but seriously...british children *do* curse alot, don't they? i mean
"young" children.
Depends what you mean by "young". I really don't see swearing as a
problem *if* (and it's a big "if") there are proper boundaries. There
is too little respect for other people and, more importantly, for ones-
self, it seems to me.
exactly. especially by young folks today.
In saying that, though, I don't hear people
swearing very often on a day to day basis and it still turns heads
when it does happen. You can almost hear the thoughts of the people
around you as the perpetrator is immediately classed in everyone's
mind as an ill-educated moron.
with teenagers, foul language abounds. not with mine, thankfully,
Weeeell, I'm not trying to cast aspersions but are you with your
teenagers every moment of every day, in everything that they do? As an
uncle, I know there are things that parents *don't* know. There were
things that my nephews would tell me and say in front of me that they
wouldn't have dreamed of telling their parents. And, I'm sure, there
are things they didn't tell me.
but the
ones i see (and hear) in the malls. and plenty of alyssa's (my 16 yr old)
friends curse right in front of their parents at ballgames with no worries
of reprimand. i'm constantly amazed by that. and appalled.
I can understand why you would be; parents are, well, parents, not
buddies and no child should be allowed to show such disregard for the
people around them. I'd be horrified if I thought anyone considered my
nephews rude or ill-educated.
I still remember the joy of telling my pals in the playground to "*****
off!" at the top of my lungs, when I was 8 or 9. I also remember the
sheer terror when a teacher caught me doing it.
oh my!
There doesn't seem to
be that respect for authority any more.
and therein lies the problem.
also, there is a massive lack of common courtesy these days.
heck, maybe our amurican kids do it too and my senses have just become
dulled to it.
I don't know about that but I know there's a lot more swearing on tv
here than there but children should be in bed by the time that stuff
comes on, so I blame the parents! String 'em up!
don't get me wrong...i blame the parents too! TOTALLY!!! my husband and i
have no trouble keeping our children's mouths clean, so i don't see why it's
so difficult for so many other folks. i know what it boils down to, though.
priorities. and for most folks today, clean language and basic politeness
just isn't a priority anymore.
I find it kind of
bizarre sometimes when I see the things that get bleeped on programmes
like "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart". I mean, we're all adults,
aren't we? Civilisation as we know isn't going to come to an end cos
someone said "*****" on tv!
that's true, but we also ought to be able to turn on the TV at a certain
time of day, when children are present, and not be subjected to the "f"
word!!! i resent that i have to explain to my 8 yr old SO OFTEN why she
can't say the words she hears on TV!
Here the "watershed" for using curse words is 9pm. You can't, or it's
the convention that you don't, use anything worse than "bloody" or
"bugger" before then. After 9.30pm it starts to get more explicit and
by about 11 you can use just about any language you want, as long as
it's not the "c" word (which I've edited after reading about the usage
in the US, which is very different from Scotland. Here it's just
another interchangeable expletive that holds no real significance,
dependant on context. A wiki search is quite illuminating...)
(Btw, The Daily Show is shown here on a far
from mainstream digital tv channel, More4, at 8.30pm, the day after
you get it. What time is it broadcast there?).
i don't know. i've never watched that show.
We like our satire here; anything that pokes fun at those in power is
always welcome.
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| User: "used2be" |
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15 May 2007 11:51:54 PM |
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"BoredToTears" <beejayceee1@yahoo.co.uk> wrote
Weeeell, I'm not trying to cast aspersions but are you with your
teenagers every moment of every day, in everything that they do?
nope. and i'm sure they say things now and then that i wish they wouldn't.
but if foul language was an everyday part of their vocabulary, it would slip
out fairly often. so far, no slips. okay, okay, one time my 19 yr old said
"*****" when she was 16.
As an
uncle, I know there are things that parents *don't* know. There were
things that my nephews would tell me and say in front of me that they
wouldn't have dreamed of telling their parents. And, I'm sure, there
are things they didn't tell me.
i'm sure that's true. but alot of it still goes back to the way parents
raise their kids. and if they are raised to use respectful speech, you can
tell. real quick. even when they are away from their parents.
Here the "watershed" for using curse words is 9pm. You can't, or it's
the convention that you don't, use anything worse than "bloody" or
"bugger" before then. After 9.30pm it starts to get more explicit and
by about 11 you can use just about any language you want, as long as
it's not the "c" word (which I've edited after reading about the usage
in the US, which is very different from Scotland. Here it's just
another interchangeable expletive that holds no real significance,
dependant on context. A wiki search is quite illuminating...)
interesting!!!
We like our satire here; anything that pokes fun at those in power is
always welcome.
i love watching british comedies. especially the old ones. :)
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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16 May 2007 02:10:39 AM |
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In message <1179267601.579814.247910@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
BoredToTears <beejayceee1@yahoo.co.uk> writes
On 15 May, 21:32, "used2be" <used...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"BoredToTears" <beejayce...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1179227589.436046.114550@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On 14 May, 22:01, "used2be" <used...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"BoredToTears" <beejayce...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1179175915.072924.327140@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On 14 May, 21:43, "used2be" <used...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"BoredToTears" <beejayce...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1179173196.578984.127240@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
British school children swear too much. The wee basturts.
why does that not surprize me in the least?
:D
Cos we're just too predictable.
but seriously...british children *do* curse alot, don't they? i mean
"young" children.
Depends what you mean by "young". I really don't see swearing as a
problem *if* (and it's a big "if") there are proper boundaries. There
is too little respect for other people and, more importantly, for ones-
self, it seems to me.
exactly. especially by young folks today.
In saying that, though, I don't hear people
swearing very often on a day to day basis and it still turns heads
when it does happen. You can almost hear the thoughts of the people
around you as the perpetrator is immediately classed in everyone's
mind as an ill-educated moron.
with teenagers, foul language abounds. not with mine, thankfully,
Weeeell, I'm not trying to cast aspersions but are you with your
teenagers every moment of every day, in everything that they do? As an
uncle, I know there are things that parents *don't* know. There were
things that my nephews would tell me and say in front of me that they
wouldn't have dreamed of telling their parents. And, I'm sure, there
are things they didn't tell me.
but the
ones i see (and hear) in the malls. and plenty of alyssa's (my 16 yr old)
friends curse right in front of their parents at ballgames with no worries
of reprimand. i'm constantly amazed by that. and appalled.
I can understand why you would be; parents are, well, parents, not
buddies and no child should be allowed to show such disregard for the
people around them. I'd be horrified if I thought anyone considered my
nephews rude or ill-educated.
I still remember the joy of telling my pals in the playground to "*****
off!" at the top of my lungs, when I was 8 or 9. I also remember the
sheer terror when a teacher caught me doing it.
oh my!
There doesn't seem to
be that respect for authority any more.
and therein lies the problem.
also, there is a massive lack of common courtesy these days.
heck, maybe our amurican kids do it too and my senses have just become
dulled to it.
I don't know about that but I know there's a lot more swearing on tv
here than there but children should be in bed by the time that stuff
comes on, so I blame the parents! String 'em up!
don't get me wrong...i blame the parents too! TOTALLY!!! my husband and i
have no trouble keeping our children's mouths clean, so i don't see why it's
so difficult for so many other folks. i know what it boils down to, though.
priorities. and for most folks today, clean language and basic politeness
just isn't a priority anymore.
I find it kind of
bizarre sometimes when I see the things that get bleeped on programmes
like "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart". I mean, we're all adults,
aren't we? Civilisation as we know isn't going to come to an end cos
someone said "*****" on tv!
that's true, but we also ought to be able to turn on the TV at a certain
time of day, when children are present, and not be subjected to the "f"
word!!! i resent that i have to explain to my 8 yr old SO OFTEN why she
can't say the words she hears on TV!
Here the "watershed" for using curse words is 9pm. You can't, or it's
the convention that you don't, use anything worse than "bloody" or
"bugger" before then. After 9.30pm it starts to get more explicit and
by about 11 you can use just about any language you want, as long as
it's not the "c" word (which I've edited after reading about the usage
in the US, which is very different from Scotland. Here it's just
another interchangeable expletive that holds no real significance,
dependant on context. A wiki search is quite illuminating...)
Wynne rarely swears when he's with us 'adults', probably less than I do,
we do, and we're hardly prolific. When he's with his friends, he's as
foul-mouthed as they are, but I've never heard the "c" word from any of
them. I can remember that we used it quite freely when I was his age, so
maybe teenagers swear less?
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "" |
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15 May 2007 06:54:49 PM |
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On May 15, 3:20 pm, BoredToTears <beejayce...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Weeeell, I'm not trying to cast aspersions but are you with your
teenagers every moment of every day, in everything that they do? As an
uncle, I know there are things that parents *don't* know. There were
things that my nephews would tell me and say in front of me that they
wouldn't have dreamed of telling their parents. And, I'm sure, there
are things they didn't tell me.
I totally understand what you're saying here, and I agree. I don't
know every single thing my kids say and do outside of my presence.
However, my husband and I don't swear at all, or at least try not to.
Of course our kids hear that kind of language at school or even on tv
sometimes, but we really have tried to teach them that it's not polite
to swear and that it doesn't sound 'pretty' coming out of someone's
mouth. I don't look down on anyone else who swears, although I don't
like it. I told some idiot off in a post here and said f**k you, and
I even felt bad about that. I just feel bad when I swear, it doesn't
feel good, and usually if I were to swear it would be out of anger or
frustration, or pain, like the stubbing your toe. Also, what some
people consider swear words, others would't. Anyways, I could go on,
but no one needs to be preached to, and that's not what I'm trying to
do. It is what I feel comfortable with, and the example I'm trying to
set for my children. If I swear even when they're aren't around that
makes it so that it's easier to let those words slip, so I just don't
want to at all. I probably sound pretty naive and old fashioned,
maybe prissy, it's just personal preference.
Rose
but the
ones i see (and hear) in the malls. and plenty of alyssa's (my 16 yr old)
friends curse right in front of their parents at ballgames with no worries
of reprimand. i'm constantly amazed by that. and appalled.
I can understand why you would be; parents are, well, parents, not
buddies and no child should be allowed to show such disregard for the
people around them. I'd be horrified if I thought anyone considered my
nephews rude or ill-educated.
I still remember the joy of telling my pals in the playground to "*****
off!" at the top of my lungs, when I was 8 or 9. I also remember the
sheer terror when a teacher caught me doing it.
oh my!
There doesn't seem to
be that respect for authority any more.
and therein lies the problem.
also, there is a massive lack of common courtesy these days.
heck, maybe our amurican kids do it too and my senses have just become
dulled to it.
I don't know about that but I know there's a lot more swearing on tv
here than there but children should be in bed by the time that stuff
comes on, so I blame the parents! String 'em up!
don't get me wrong...i blame the parents too! TOTALLY!!! my husband and i
have no trouble keeping our children's mouths clean, so i don't see why it's
so difficult for so many other folks. i know what it boils down to, though.
priorities. and for most folks today, clean language and basic politeness
just isn't a priority anymore.
I find it kind of
bizarre sometimes when I see the things that get bleeped on programmes
like "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart". I mean, we're all adults,
aren't we? Civilisation as we know isn't going to come to an end cos
someone said "*****" on tv!
that's true, but we also ought to be able to turn on the TV at a certain
time of day, when children are present, and not be subjected to the "f"
word!!! i resent that i have to explain to my 8 yr old SO OFTEN why she
can't say the words she hears on TV!
Here the "watershed" for using curse words is 9pm. You can't, or it's
the convention that you don't, use anything worse than "bloody" or
"bugger" before then. After 9.30pm it starts to get more explicit and
by about 11 you can use just about any language you want, as long as
it's not the "c" word (which I've edited after reading about the usage
in the US, which is very different from Scotland. Here it's just
another interchangeable expletive that holds no real significance,
dependant on context. A wiki search is quite illuminating...)
(Btw, The Daily Show is shown here on a far
from mainstream digital tv channel, More4, at 8.30pm, the day after
you get it. What time is it broadcast there?).
i don't know. i've never watched that show.
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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15 May 2007 04:06:15 PM |
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On 5/15/2007 5:13 AM, BoredToTears was all like:
On 14 May, 22:01, "used2be" <used...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"BoredToTears" <beejayce...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1179175915.072924.327140@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On 14 May, 21:43, "used2be" <used...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"BoredToTears" <beejayce...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1179173196.578984.127240@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
British school children swear too much. The wee basturts.
why does that not surprize me in the least?
:D
Cos we're just too predictable.
but seriously...british children *do* curse alot, don't they? i mean
"young" children.
Depends what you mean by "young". I really don't see swearing as a
problem *if* (and it's a big "if") there are proper boundaries. There
is too little respect for other people and, more importantly, for ones-
self, it seems to me. In saying that, though, I don't hear people
swearing very often on a day to day basis and it still turns heads
when it does happen. You can almost hear the thoughts of the people
around you as the perpetrator is immediately classed in everyone's
mind as an ill-educated moron.
I still remember the joy of telling my pals in the playground to "*****
off!" at the top of my lungs, when I was 8 or 9. I also remember the
sheer terror when a teacher caught me doing it. There doesn't seem to
be that respect for authority any more.
heck, maybe our amurican kids do it too and my senses have just become
dulled to it.
I don't know about that but I know there's a lot more swearing on tv
here than there but children should be in bed by the time that stuff
comes on, so I blame the parents! String 'em up! I find it kind of
bizarre sometimes when I see the things that get bleeped on programmes
like "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart". I mean, we're all adults,
aren't we? Civilisation as we know isn't going to come to an end cos
someone said "*****" on tv! (Btw, The Daily Show is shown here on a far
from mainstream digital tv channel, More4, at 8.30pm, the day after
you get it. What time is it broadcast there?).
dulled.
is that a word?
It was the last time I checked.
The current day's episode is on at midnight, and the "*****" is bleeped
to an obvious "fu***"
But I'm on mountain time which means that some of our programming is
shifted by an hour for central time zone and some is shifted for pacific
time zone depending on which bird is sending the program. You can never
trust the cable station when they tell you what time a program starts
because of that. I don't know what time comedy central promotes daily
show/colbert for, but I want to say 2300.
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| User: "BoredToTears" |
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15 May 2007 05:24:54 PM |
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On 15 May, 22:06, Franz Bestuchev <franz.bestuc...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/15/2007 5:13 AM, BoredToTears was all like:
On 14 May, 22:01, "used2be" <used...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"BoredToTears" <beejayce...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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On 14 May, 21:43, "used2be" <used...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"BoredToTears" <beejayce...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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British school children swear too much. The wee basturts.
why does that not surprize me in the least?
:D
Cos we're just too predictable.
but seriously...british children *do* curse alot, don't they? i mean
"young" children.
Depends what you mean by "young". I really don't see swearing as a
problem *if* (and it's a big "if") there are proper boundaries. There
is too little respect for other people and, more importantly, for ones-
self, it seems to me. In saying that, though, I don't hear people
swearing very often on a day to day basis and it still turns heads
when it does happen. You can almost hear the thoughts of the people
around you as the perpetrator is immediately classed in everyone's
mind as an ill-educated moron.
I still remember the joy of telling my pals in the playground to "*****
off!" at the top of my lungs, when I was 8 or 9. I also remember the
sheer terror when a teacher caught me doing it. There doesn't seem to
be that respect for authority any more.
heck, maybe our amurican kids do it too and my senses have just become
dulled to it.
I don't know about that but I know there's a lot more swearing on tv
here than there but children should be in bed by the time that stuff
comes on, so I blame the parents! String 'em up! I find it kind of
bizarre sometimes when I see the things that get bleeped on programmes
like "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart". I mean, we're all adults,
aren't we? Civilisation as we know isn't going to come to an end cos
someone said "*****" on tv! (Btw, The Daily Show is shown here on a far
from mainstream digital tv channel, More4, at 8.30pm, the day after
you get it. What time is it broadcast there?).
dulled.
is that a word?
It was the last time I checked.
The current day's episode is on at midnight, and the "*****" is bleeped
to an obvious "fu***"
After about 10 here, nothing is bleeped unless it's bought in and has
been pre-bleeped.
But I'm on mountain time which means that some of our programming is
shifted by an hour for central time zone and some is shifted for pacific
time zone depending on which bird is sending the program. You can never
trust the cable station when they tell you what time a program starts
because of that. I don't know what time comedy central promotes daily
show/colbert for, but I want to say 2300.
I didn't see the first showing tonight but it's repeated at about 1am,
I think, so I might watch it then.
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15 May 2007 02:24:16 AM |
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used2be wrote:
heck, maybe our amurican kids do it too and my senses have just become
dulled to it.
I don't think you get out much if you're seriously asking that question.
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15 May 2007 03:25:41 PM |
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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used2be wrote:
heck, maybe our amurican kids do it too and my senses have just become
dulled to it.
I don't think you get out much if you're seriously asking that question.
it's because i'm dull
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14 May 2007 05:08:59 PM |
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In message <1179173196.578984.127240@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
BoredToTears <beejayceee1@yahoo.co.uk> writes
British school children swear too much. The wee basturts.
Define 'too much'.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "BoredToTears" |
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15 May 2007 06:19:11 AM |
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On 14 May, 23:08, Alan Harding <A...@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:
In message <1179173196.578984.127...@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
BoredToTears <beejayce...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
British school children swear too much. The wee basturts.
Define 'too much'.
I was watching a channel 4 documentary where they gave kids in a
school camcorders and asked them to film their friends as they went
about their daily school activities. It was the documentary maker or
someone commenting in the papers that said they swear "too much". I
reckon they should make it compulsory, at least then we'd get some
inventive swearing instead of the usual boring old crap.
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| User: "Janithor" |
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15 May 2007 02:20:40 AM |
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BoredToTears wrote:
British school children swear too much. The wee basturts.
It's horrible over here in the US. I just did a local fair, and walking
around listening to people, every other word was the f word, said with
absolutely no shame, no, it's used almost with pride. Not just that,
but it's used with hostility. The culture is getting so course and
brutish, it's distressing sometimes. I have a very foul mouth, don't
get me wrong, I'm no prude. It's not the words that bother so much as
how they are used, and when & where they are used. I walked by some
stunningly pretty young girl, she was in her mid-teens, and as she
walked by I heard her say "...needs to FUCKING buy me..." that's all I
caught, but she sounded like a drunk angry sailor about ready to get
into a fight. It was disgusting, she's an absolute pig. I use language
like that when I'm alone in my house and I accidentally hit my finger
with the hammer. Fine. But the constant hostility and ugliness towards
your fellow human beings without any reason than that you're just a
nasty, mean, crass pig, it's depressing. Screaming at me calling me an
"F-ING N-WORD!!!" at the top of your lungs because you don't like how
I'm driving in a parking lot, it's pathetic. And people wonder why I'm
a loner.
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| User: "Contrarian" |
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15 May 2007 02:57:43 AM |
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Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
BoredToTears wrote:
British school children swear too much. The wee basturts.
It's horrible over here in the US. I just did a local fair, and walking
around listening to people, every other word was the f word, said with
absolutely no shame, no, it's used almost with pride. Not just that,
but it's used with hostility. The culture is getting so course and
brutish, it's distressing sometimes. I have a very foul mouth, don't
get me wrong, I'm no prude. It's not the words that bother so much as
how they are used, and when & where they are used.<snip>
Theodore Dalrymple wrote about this (the retired .uk prison doctor)
Going back ... oh 250 years, it was a misdemeanor (just
a fine, no permanent record) in England to "profanely swear"
Say $10 to $25 dollars per offence. Interesting enough,
those deemed to be "gentlemen" had to pay a higher fine
*if* I recall correctly. This was in a biography of
Henry Fielding.
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| User: "BoredToTears" |
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15 May 2007 06:28:17 AM |
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On 15 May, 08:57, Contrarian <adrb...@gmail.com> wrote:
Janithor <Janit...@comcast.net> wrote:
BoredToTears wrote:
British school children swear too much. The wee basturts.
It's horrible over here in the US. I just did a local fair, and walking
around listening to people, every other word was the f word, said with
absolutely no shame, no, it's used almost with pride. Not just that,
but it's used with hostility. The culture is getting so course and
brutish, it's distressing sometimes. I have a very foul mouth, don't
get me wrong, I'm no prude. It's not the words that bother so much as
how they are used, and when & where they are used.<snip>
Theodore Dalrymple wrote about this (the retired .uk prison doctor)
Going back ... oh 250 years, it was a misdemeanor (just
a fine, no permanent record) in England to "profanely swear"
Say $10 to $25 dollars per offence. Interesting enough,
those deemed to be "gentlemen" had to pay a higher fine
*if* I recall correctly. This was in a biography of
Henry Fielding.
It's still an offence to swear in public if it constitutes a "breach
of the peace". And if you swear at the police it's *definitely* a
breach and you'll be detained. (People aren't arrested in Scotland,
they're "detained, pending further inquiries")
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| User: "BoredToTears" |
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15 May 2007 06:23:12 AM |
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On 15 May, 08:20, Janithor <Janit...@comcast.net> wrote:
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BoredToTears wrote:
British school children swear too much. The wee basturts.
It's horrible over here in the US. I just did a local fair, and walking
around listening to people, every other word was the f word, said with
absolutely no shame, no, it's used almost with pride. Not just that,
but it's used with hostility. The culture is getting so course and
brutish, it's distressing sometimes. I have a very foul mouth, don't
get me wrong, I'm no prude. It's not the words that bother so much as
how they are used, and when & where they are used. I walked by some
stunningly pretty young girl, she was in her mid-teens, and as she
walked by I heard her say "...needs to FUCKING buy me..." that's all I
caught, but she sounded like a drunk angry sailor about ready to get
into a fight. It was disgusting, she's an absolute pig. I use language
like that when I'm alone in my house and I accidentally hit my finger
with the hammer. Fine. But the constant hostility and ugliness towards
your fellow human beings without any reason than that you're just a
nasty, mean, crass pig, it's depressing. Screaming at me calling me an
"F-ING N-WORD!!!" at the top of your lungs because you don't like how
I'm driving in a parking lot, it's pathetic. And people wonder why I'm
a loner.
</rant>
A lot of swear words are used casually by teenagers here, too, as
nouns, adjectives, even verbs. It can be intimidating for some elderly
people, although I've heard a few seniors that could shock even
teenagers! And most of them are women!
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15 May 2007 06:54:25 AM |
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On May 15, 9:23 pm, BoredToTears <beejayce...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On 15 May, 08:20, Janithor <Janit...@comcast.net> wrote:
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BoredToTears wrote:
British school children swear too much. The wee basturts.
It's horrible over here in the US. I just did a local fair, and walking
around listening to people, every other word was the f word, said with
absolutely no shame, no, it's used almost with pride. Not just that,
but it's used with hostility. The culture is getting so course and
brutish, it's distressing sometimes. I have a very foul mouth, don't
get me wrong, I'm no prude. It's not the words that bother so much as
how they are used, and when & where they are used. I walked by some
stunningly pretty young girl, she was in her mid-teens, and as she
walked by I heard her say "...needs to FUCKING buy me..." that's all I
caught, but she sounded like a drunk angry sailor about ready to get
into a fight. It was disgusting, she's an absolute pig. I use language
like that when I'm alone in my house and I accidentally hit my finger
with the hammer. Fine. But the constant hostility and ugliness towards
your fellow human beings without any reason than that you're just a
nasty, mean, crass pig, it's depressing. Screaming at me calling me an
"F-ING N-WORD!!!" at the top of your lungs because you don't like how
I'm driving in a parking lot, it's pathetic. And people wonder why I'm
a loner.
</rant>
A lot of swear words are used casually by teenagers here, too, as
nouns, adjectives, even verbs. It can be intimidating for some elderly
people, although I've heard a few seniors that could shock even
teenagers! And most of them are women!
When I was a kid, you don't want to know what my grandfather
described things as when talking to folk. Every second word
began with f*, actually theirs did too. I guess I'm a little
bland with the issue, however use those words
when I feel like it, not in social situations as such, and
not something that would look good in a job interview,
or formal social situation.
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| User: "BoredToTears" |
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15 May 2007 07:08:01 AM |
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On 15 May, 12:54, the_dawggie <the_dawg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On May 15, 9:23 pm, BoredToTears <beejayce...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On 15 May, 08:20, Janithor <Janit...@comcast.net> wrote:
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BoredToTears wrote:
British school children swear too much. The wee basturts.
It's horrible over here in the US. I just did a local fair, and walking
around listening to people, every other word was the f word, said with
absolutely no shame, no, it's used almost with pride. Not just that,
but it's used with hostility. The culture is getting so course and
brutish, it's distressing sometimes. I have a very foul mouth, don't
get me wrong, I'm no prude. It's not the words that bother so much as
how they are used, and when & where they are used. I walked by some
stunningly pretty young girl, she was in her mid-teens, and as she
walked by I heard her say "...needs to FUCKING buy me..." that's all I
caught, but she sounded like a drunk angry sailor about ready to get
into a fight. It was disgusting, she's an absolute pig. I use language
like that when I'm alone in my house and I accidentally hit my finger
with the hammer. Fine. But the constant hostility and ugliness towards
your fellow human beings without any reason than that you're just a
nasty, mean, crass pig, it's depressing. Screaming at me calling me an
"F-ING N-WORD!!!" at the top of your lungs because you don't like how
I'm driving in a parking lot, it's pathetic. And people wonder why I'm
a loner.
</rant>
A lot of swear words are used casually by teenagers here, too, as
nouns, adjectives, even verbs. It can be intimidating for some elderly
people, although I've heard a few seniors that could shock even
teenagers! And most of them are women!
When I was a kid, you don't want to know what my grandfather
described things as when talking to folk. Every second word
began with f*, actually theirs did too. I guess I'm a little
bland with the issue, however use those words
when I feel like it, not in social situations as such, and
not something that would look good in a job interview,
or formal social situation.
I swear quite a lot but I modify my language while in public. It's
about respecting others, I suppose. I speak differently to my friends
than I do to someone I've never met before. It's called common
courtesy but seems to be less common now.
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| User: "Janithor" |
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15 May 2007 01:48:22 PM |
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BoredToTears wrote:
On 15 May, 08:20, Janithor <Janit...@comcast.net> wrote:
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BoredToTears wrote:
British school children swear too much. The wee basturts.
It's horrible over here in the US. I just did a local fair, and walking
around listening to people, every other word was the f word, said with
absolutely no shame, no, it's used almost with pride. Not just that,
but it's used with hostility. The culture is getting so course and
brutish, it's distressing sometimes. I have a very foul mouth, don't
get me wrong, I'm no prude. It's not the words that bother so much as
how they are used, and when & where they are used. I walked by some
stunningly pretty young girl, she was in her mid-teens, and as she
walked by I heard her say "...needs to FUCKING buy me..." that's all I
caught, but she sounded like a drunk angry sailor about ready to get
into a fight. It was disgusting, she's an absolute pig. I use language
like that when I'm alone in my house and I accidentally hit my finger
with the hammer. Fine. But the constant hostility and ugliness towards
your fellow human beings without any reason than that you're just a
nasty, mean, crass pig, it's depressing. Screaming at me calling me an
"F-ING N-WORD!!!" at the top of your lungs because you don't like how
I'm driving in a parking lot, it's pathetic. And people wonder why I'm
a loner.
</rant>
A lot of swear words are used casually by teenagers here, too, as
nouns, adjectives, even verbs. It can be intimidating for some elderly
people, although I've heard a few seniors that could shock even
teenagers! And most of them are women!
To be quite honest, I have a potty mouth myself. It's just the context
thing that bugs me more than anything, and the constant use. I can't
even walk through the local fair and just enjoy a nice sunny day, and it
seems like every group of teenagers you walk by, you just hear this
string of nastiness coming out of their mouths. It's a buzz kill.
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| User: "%" |
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15 May 2007 01:53:50 PM |
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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BoredToTears wrote:
On 15 May, 08:20, Janithor <Janit...@comcast.net> wrote:
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BoredToTears wrote:
British school children swear too much. The wee basturts.
It's horrible over here in the US. I just did a local fair, and
walking
around listening to people, every other word was the f word, said
with
absolutely no shame, no, it's used almost with pride. Not just
that,
but it's used with hostility. The culture is getting so course and
brutish, it's distressing sometimes. I have a very foul mouth,
don't
get me wrong, I'm no prude. It's not the words that bother so much
as
how they are used, and when & where they are used. I walked by some
stunningly pretty young girl, she was in her mid-teens, and as she
walked by I heard her say "...needs to FUCKING buy me..." that's all
I
caught, but she sounded like a drunk angry sailor about ready to get
into a fight. It was disgusting, she's an absolute pig. I use
language
like that when I'm alone in my house and I accidentally hit my
finger
with the hammer. Fine. But the constant hostility and ugliness
towards
your fellow human beings without any reason than that you're just a
nasty, mean, crass pig, it's depressing. Screaming at me calling me
an
"F-ING N-WORD!!!" at the top of your lungs because you don't like
how
I'm driving in a parking lot, it's pathetic. And people wonder why
I'm
a loner.
</rant>
A lot of swear words are used casually by teenagers here, too, as
nouns, adjectives, even verbs. It can be intimidating for some
elderly
people, although I've heard a few seniors that could shock even
teenagers! And most of them are women!
To be quite honest, I have a potty mouth myself. It's just the
context
thing that bugs me more than anything, and the constant use. I can't
even walk through the local fair and just enjoy a nice sunny day, and
it
seems like every group of teenagers you walk by, you just hear this
string of nastiness coming out of their mouths. It's a buzz kill.
wear headphones
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15 May 2007 02:30:00 PM |
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On 15 May, 19:48, Janithor <Janit...@comcast.net> wrote:
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BoredToTears wrote:
On 15 May, 08:20, Janithor <Janit...@comcast.net> wrote:
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BoredToTears wrote:
British school children swear too much. The wee basturts.
It's horrible over here in the US. I just did a local fair, and walking
around listening to people, every other word was the f word, said with
absolutely no shame, no, it's used almost with pride. Not just that,
but it's used with hostility. The culture is getting so course and
brutish, it's distressing sometimes. I have a very foul mouth, don't
get me wrong, I'm no prude. It's not the words that bother so much as
how they are used, and when & where they are used. I walked by some
stunningly pretty young girl, she was in her mid-teens, and as she
walked by I heard her say "...needs to FUCKING buy me..." that's all I
caught, but she sounded like a drunk angry sailor about ready to get
into a fight. It was disgusting, she's an absolute pig. I use language
like that when I'm alone in my house and I accidentally hit my finger
with the hammer. Fine. But the constant hostility and ugliness towards
your fellow human beings without any reason than that you're just a
nasty, mean, crass pig, it's depressing. Screaming at me calling me an
"F-ING N-WORD!!!" at the top of your lungs because you don't like how
I'm driving in a parking lot, it's pathetic. And people wonder why I'm
a loner.
</rant>
A lot of swear words are used casually by teenagers here, too, as
nouns, adjectives, even verbs. It can be intimidating for some elderly
people, although I've heard a few seniors that could shock even
teenagers! And most of them are women!
To be quite honest, I have a potty mouth myself. It's just the context
thing that bugs me more than anything, and the constant use. I can't
even walk through the local fair and just enjoy a nice sunny day, and it
seems like every group of teenagers you walk by, you just hear this
string of nastiness coming out of their mouths. It's a buzz kill.
You're right, context is everything. I can see the point, and
sympathise, if someone curses a blue streak because they've hurt
themselves or in the company of good friends when you're taking the
*****, but there has to be a cut-off point. If children aren't getting
taught that at school and at home, then there's something wrong.
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| User: "the_dawggie" |
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15 May 2007 02:57:48 AM |
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On May 15, 5:20 pm, Janithor <Janit...@comcast.net> wrote:
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BoredToTears wrote:
British school children swear too much. The wee basturts.
It's horrible over here in the US. I just did a local fair, and walking
around listening to people, every other word was the f word, said with
absolutely no shame, no, it's used almost with pride. Not just that,
but it's used with hostility. The culture is getting so course and
brutish, it's distressing sometimes. I have a very foul mouth, don't
get me wrong, I'm no prude. It's not the words that bother so much as
how they are used, and when & where they are used. I walked by some
stunningly pretty young girl, she was in her mid-teens, and as she
walked by I heard her say "...needs to FUCKING buy me..." that's all I
caught, but she sounded like a drunk angry sailor about ready to get
into a fight. It was disgusting, she's an absolute pig. I use language
like that when I'm alone in my house and I accidentally hit my finger
with the hammer. Fine. But the constant hostility and ugliness towards
your fellow human beings without any reason than that you're just a
nasty, mean, crass pig, it's depressing. Screaming at me calling me an
"F-ING N-WORD!!!" at the top of your lungs because you don't like how
I'm driving in a parking lot, it's pathetic. And people wonder why I'm
a loner.
</rant>
I find that interesting. I agree to a certain point, I don't shout
in public (well I did once). I'm a loner mostly {I think} because
I'm not a social creature, so other people getting in my way
all the time messes with me to the point of simply not wanting
to drive, or be in crowded places. A key indicator for me to
this is noticing if in a store and buying stuff, the checkout
counter is empty - even think of taking a single step towards
it, and it's suddenly full of folk?
Using F-words doesn't really bother me. It's simply language,
actions hurt more than words. Also stuff that may not even
contain swear words can be disturbing. It's got to be
taken in context as an entire sentence to find it disturbing,
and a normal sentence without s* and f* can be far more
disturbing in given circumstances. Well for me anyway.
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| User: "Janithor" |
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15 May 2007 05:37:06 AM |
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the_dawggie wrote:
Using F-words doesn't really bother me. It's simply language,
actions hurt more than words.
I disagree in part. The F word doesn't bother me either, my primary
page that I use on Markypoo's wiki is itself titled FuckedUpSleep. It's
all about context and the intent, meaning, emotion, attitude behid it's
use. To use it like the people do in the specific cases I am referring
to is not simply using the f word. It's beyond that. It's a profound
lack of even a shred of concern about anyone around them but themselves.
These are very self-absorbed people who will scream the most vile
things at you if you do something that displeases in the slightest. I
had an employee threatened with physical violence last night because he
was shutting down a bathroom and some drunk imbecile wanted to use it.
Screaming at my employee "f you and your f-ing family" wasn't "just
words" - it was the words of an out of control, completely self-focused
child pretending to be an adult who was borderline violent. (There were
plenty of other restrooms to use, he just wanted to use THAT restroom.)
Words aren't "just words". Look at this very board, and all the *****
people are trying to sort out after years of "just words" from their
parents, they're family/friends/peers. Try going up to a young child,
laugh at them and call them fucking stupid/ugly/fat or whatever, and
tell me those are "just words".
Also stuff that may not even
contain swear words can be disturbing. It's got to be
taken in context as an entire sentence to find it disturbing,
and a normal sentence without s* and f* can be far more
disturbing in given circumstances. Well for me anyway.
Oh, I agree totally. Context is everything. I just think that in
general, if someone constantly uses the f word, loudly, in whatever
setting without regard to the context of that setting, this is an
individual who doesn't give a damn about anyone other than themselves.
They're generally not nice people. IMO. Either that, or they are truly
from the lumpen proletariat, and believe me, I have hung out with this
crowd for most of my life, at least in a work setting. There are some
who use this language who are super nice people who would stop
everything to help a stranger. So, you're right, context is very
important. In sum, I just think there is a certain decorum that simply
makes life nicer and more pleasant when we're forced to live next to and
around each other. I don't want to live in an every man for himself
society. There's something about holding a door open for someone rather
than letting it slam on their face, or letting someone in who's trying
to make a turn and can't because you're in heavy traffic, little crap
like that, that makes living with each other that much easier and that
much more pleasant, IMO. The people I'm thinking about are the last
people who would do stuff like this.
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| User: "the_dawggie" |
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| Title: Re: Apparently |
15 May 2007 06:39:48 AM |
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On May 15, 8:37 pm, Janithor <Janit...@comcast.net> wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
the_dawggie wrote:
Using F-words doesn't really bother me. It's simply language,
actions hurt more than words.
I disagree in part. The F word doesn't bother me either, my primary
page that I use on Markypoo's wiki is itself titled FuckedUpSleep. It's
all about context and the intent, meaning, emotion, attitude behid it's
use. To use it like the people do in the specific cases I am referring
to is not simply using the f word. It's beyond that. It's a profound
lack of even a shred of concern about anyone around them but themselves.
Yup, it is certainly a context issue. I dont use it in normal
conversation,
however at work or at home have used it to express displeasure, as
have others around me. About a week ago I was with my father, his
friend and someone else over a matter, and in disaggrement over the
actions of someone else, I brought out the c**t word at loud volume
too.
These are very self-absorbed people who will scream the most vile
things at you if you do something that displeases in the slightest. I
had an employee threatened with physical violence last night because he
was shutting down a bathroom and some drunk imbecile wanted to use it.
Screaming at my employee "f you and your f-ing family" wasn't "just
words" - it was the words of an out of control, completely self-focused
child pretending to be an adult who was borderline violent. (There were
plenty of other restrooms to use, he just wanted to use THAT restroom.)
That's different, and agree, inappropriate.
Words aren't "just words". Look at this very board, and all the *****
people are trying to sort out after years of "just words" from their
parents, they're family/friends/peers. Try going up to a young child,
laugh at them and call them fucking stupid/ugly/fat or whatever, and
tell me those are "just words".
Words hurt sometime. "Sticks and stones may break my bones,
however words won't hurt me", just don't take that to the legal
folk.
Also stuff that may not even
contain swear words can be disturbing. It's got to be
taken in context as an entire sentence to find it disturbing,
and a normal sentence without s* and f* can be far more
disturbing in given circumstances. Well for me anyway.
Oh, I agree totally. Context is everything. I just think that in
general, if someone constantly uses the f word, loudly, in whatever
setting without regard to the context of that setting, this is an
individual who doesn't give a damn about anyone other than themselves.
They're generally not nice people. IMO. Either that, or they are truly
from the lumpen proletariat, and believe me, I have hung out with this
crowd for most of my life, at least in a work setting. There are some
who use this language who are super nice people who would stop
everything to help a stranger. So, you're right, context is very
important. In sum, I just think there is a certain decorum that simply
makes life nicer and more pleasant when we're forced to live next to and
around each other. I don't want to live in an every man for himself
society. There's something about holding a door open for someone rather
than letting it slam on their face, or letting someone in who's trying
to make a turn and can't because you're in heavy traffic, little crap
like that, that makes living with each other that much easier and that
much more pleasant, IMO. The people I'm thinking about are the last
people who would do stuff like this.
I know folk that swear at their kids, as in "Get the ***** inside and
clean
up your room!" it's not a good look. Seems to cause the kids to use
the
same language. It's not good I agree, as from what I see, depending
on context, indicates aggression.
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