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09 Jan 2008 11:37:48 AM |
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Gayle wrote:
% wrote:
having a happy day
Nope. I'm worried about Slunky. And my head hurts but not
because of being worried about Slunky.
yea i feel for Slunky too but i've learned ,
when he gets like this suggestions seem useless ,
and none of them are possible so i leave it up to him now ,
he'll decide what he wants to do
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| User: "Gayle" |
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09 Jan 2008 11:46:26 AM |
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% wrote:
having a happy day
Nope. I'm worried about Slunky. And my head hurts but not
because of being worried about Slunky.
yea i feel for Slunky too but i've learned ,
when he gets like this suggestions seem useless ,
and none of them are possible so i leave it up to him now ,
he'll decide what he wants to do
I'm not knowledgeable enough to suggest anything so I'm
useless anyway, except for maybe helping pass the time
until the therapist calls back
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| User: "%" |
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09 Jan 2008 11:51:25 AM |
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Gayle wrote:
% wrote:
having a happy day
Nope. I'm worried about Slunky. And my head hurts but not
because of being worried about Slunky.
yea i feel for Slunky too but i've learned ,
when he gets like this suggestions seem useless ,
and none of them are possible so i leave it up to him now ,
he'll decide what he wants to do
I'm not knowledgeable enough to suggest anything so I'm
useless anyway, except for maybe helping pass the time
until the therapist calls back
yea well i hope what ever he choses to do helps him
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| User: "rose" |
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09 Jan 2008 01:35:46 PM |
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On Jan 9, 9:51=A0am, "%" <pers...@gmail.com> wrote:
Gayle wrote:
% wrote:
having a happy day
Nope. I'm worried about Slunky. And my head hurts but not
because of being worried about Slunky.
yea i feel for Slunky too but i've learned ,
when he gets like this suggestions seem useless ,
and none of them are possible so i leave it up to him now ,
he'll decide what he wants to do
I'm not knowledgeable enough to suggest anything so I'm
useless anyway, except for maybe helping pass the time
until the therapist calls back
yea well i hope what ever he choses to do helps him
I don't know what your relationship with slunky is like in private but
maybe your talking to him and your suggestions you've made in the past
have helped, even if he hasn't followed your specific advice, because
he's still alive. Regardless of what he chooses to do I hope you'll
still try to be a supportive friend to him, as I see him try to be for
you. Again, not that I know if you are or if you aren't, all I have
to go by is my impressions of what I'm seeing you say in the group.
Sorry to butt in, just wanted to say that.
~Rose
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09 Jan 2008 12:10:27 PM |
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_/ Gayle <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote \_
I'm not knowledgeable enough to suggest anything so I'm
useless anyway, except for maybe helping pass the time
until the therapist calls back
She called back and we decided I need to find something to do for three
hours until I can go to a crisis program for groups with nurses and
techs and such, and from there they'll assess me and see if they can get
me a bed (They're usually full.). It's like the hospital, but much less
restricted and run by the place I see my therapist and doctor.
So all I gotta do is last three hours. My therapist is going to check in
on me at the end of every hour. I think I'll try to keep busy and try
what she asked me to try and not involve myself with my thoughts but to
only observe them.
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| User: "Michelle la Belle 2nd" |
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09 Jan 2008 01:33:26 PM |
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On Jan 9, 1:10=A0pm, slunky <slu...@globalzero.org> wrote:
_/ Gayle <gayl...@rcn.com> wrote \_
I'm not knowledgeable enough to suggest anything so I'm
useless anyway, except for maybe helping pass the time
until the therapist calls back
She called back and we decided I need to find something to do for three
hours until I can go to a crisis program for groups with nurses and
techs and such, and from there they'll assess me and see if they can get
me a bed (They're usually full.). It's like the hospital, but much less
restricted and run by the place I see my therapist and doctor.
So all I gotta do is last three hours. My therapist is going to check in
on me at the end of every hour. I think I'll try to keep busy and try
what she asked me to try and not involve myself with my thoughts but to
only observe them.
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Well now you've got something to look forward to, if that's the right
expression. I'm glad.
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09 Jan 2008 01:45:04 PM |
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_/ Michelle la Belle 2nd <that-michelle@hotmail.com> wrote \_
Well now you've got something to look forward to, if that's the right
expression. I'm glad.
Yes, something to look forward too, but still having problems being
safe, and a little nervous about going to a new place.
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-slunky
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09 Jan 2008 12:21:28 PM |
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slunky wrote:
She called back and we decided I need to find something to do for three
hours until I can go to a crisis program for groups with nurses and
techs and such, and from there they'll assess me and see if they can get
me a bed (They're usually full.). It's like the hospital, but much less
restricted and run by the place I see my therapist and doctor.
That sounds like a good direction to move towards. To me.
So all I gotta do is last three hours. My therapist is going to check in
on me at the end of every hour. I think I'll try to keep busy and try
what she asked me to try and not involve myself with my thoughts but to
only observe them.
Maybe grab some blank paper and draft what you'll do with
the oil pastels?
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09 Jan 2008 12:34:54 PM |
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_/ Gayle <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote \_
That sounds like a good direction to move towards. To me.
Yes, I've got a little hope now.
Maybe grab some blank paper and draft what you'll do with
the oil pastels?
I may do that. Won't be able to finish on those papers because it's
really cheap xerox paper and it would bleed through, but I can get some
ideas. I have the image of a scene with cobblestone paths and a
building. I will also play bass and may make my own pizza.
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-slunky
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09 Jan 2008 01:33:28 PM |
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slunky <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote:
_/ Gayle <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote \_
That sounds like a good direction to move towards. To me.
Yes, I've got a little hope now.
wonderful.
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09 Jan 2008 01:45:19 PM |
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_/ Contrarian <adrba65@gmail.com> wrote \_
wonderful.
Yes.
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| User: "Gayle" |
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09 Jan 2008 12:52:54 PM |
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slunky wrote:
Maybe grab some blank paper and draft what you'll do with
the oil pastels?
I may do that. Won't be able to finish on those papers because it's
really cheap xerox paper and it would bleed through, but I can get some
ideas. I have the image of a scene with cobblestone paths and a
building. I will also play bass and may make my own pizza.
There are still cobblestone paths around here and I love
them. Except when it's icy. It might be good to make some
sketches that you have to put aside before doing the
drawing itself. Kinda get the creative juices flowing.
And, yeah, don't forget to eat. You've been awake a long
time and probably are hungrier earlier than usual. Maybe
Scarlette can help you make the pizza.
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09 Jan 2008 12:59:02 PM |
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_/ Gayle <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote \_
There are still cobblestone paths around here and I love
them. Except when it's icy.
I don't ever see them, but I like how they look. We have brickwork out
here on the ground. I've make them before.
It might be good to make some
sketches that you have to put aside before doing the
drawing itself. Kinda get the creative juices flowing.
Yeah, good idea. I will have to work up to all this. Still feeling
absolutely horrible, and it's hard to do anything, but I will try.
And, yeah, don't forget to eat. You've been awake a long
time and probably are hungrier earlier than usual. Maybe
Scarlette can help you make the pizza.
Yes, I was going to eat earlier, but just didn't feel like it. I was
going to make potato cakes, but it just seemed like too much work, and I
was afraid I was too tired and would burn myself on the oil.
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09 Jan 2008 01:09:34 PM |
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slunky wrote:
I don't ever see them, but I like how they look. We have brickwork out
here on the ground. I've make them before.
Here's a link to some photos that might inspire you a little:
http://www.fotosearch.com/photos-images/cobblestone.html
Yeah, good idea. I will have to work up to all this. Still feeling
absolutely horrible, and it's hard to do anything, but I will try.
Well, just do what you can. It's about passing the time,
not about the drawing.
Yes, I was going to eat earlier, but just didn't feel like it. I was
going to make potato cakes, but it just seemed like too much work, and I
was afraid I was too tired and would burn myself on the oil.
Eating might remove at least one of the stressors. I kinda
want some pizza, too, now that you mention it. But a
banana will do it for now.
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| User: "slunky" |
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09 Jan 2008 01:17:28 PM |
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_/ Gayle <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote \_
Here's a link to some photos that might inspire you a little:
http://www.fotosearch.com/photos-images/cobblestone.html
That third picture of the alley is sort of what I was thinking.
Well, just do what you can. It's about passing the time,
not about the drawing.
If only my packages would come earlier than four o'clock. I could spend
two hours setting up the phone alone. I am glad I should be able to hook
up the phone instead of being stuck in the hospital laying on the couch
while Forrest Gump plays in the background for the millionth time.
Eating might remove at least one of the stressors. I kinda
want some pizza, too, now that you mention it. But a
banana will do it for now.
My stomache is growling. I can have some Ritz and cheese for now while I
cook the pizza. I'll definately have dinner. They serve it at the
Evening Crisis Program.
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-slunky
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09 Jan 2008 01:30:08 PM |
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slunky wrote:
http://www.fotosearch.com/photos-images/cobblestone.html
That third picture of the alley is sort of what I was thinking.
That one's definitely in Boston on Beacon Hill. Well, I'm
almost positive that it's Acorn St. but i could be wrong.
I like the faux gaslamps, too.
Well, just do what you can. It's about passing the time,
not about the drawing.
If only my packages would come earlier than four o'clock. I could spend
two hours setting up the phone alone. I am glad I should be able to hook
up the phone instead of being stuck in the hospital laying on the couch
while Forrest Gump plays in the background for the millionth time.
Oh, geez, that's a lotta Gump. But the phone's still in
Denver?
My stomache is growling. I can have some Ritz and cheese for now while I
cook the pizza. I'll definately have dinner. They serve it at the
Evening Crisis Program.
Sounds like a decent program.
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09 Jan 2008 01:42:25 PM |
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_/ Gayle <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote \_
That one's definitely in Boston on Beacon Hill. Well, I'm
almost positive that it's Acorn St. but i could be wrong.
I like the faux gaslamps, too.
I must have seen the street before to have been thinking of something so
similar.
Oh, geez, that's a lotta Gump.
I know. On every inpatient hospital stay I've had they've watched
Forrest Gump, and three times they've watched Splash. On long stays,
they play movies multiple times because I'm the only one that had
already seen it.
But the phone's still in Denver?
I just checked. It says it arrived in my zipcode at 5:16am. So there's a
pretty good chance it'll come while I'm gone this afternoon. The pastels
still say they're waiting on the package.
Sounds like a decent program.
Yes, I think it might be. I didn't know they had this type of thing
here.
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09 Jan 2008 02:04:18 PM |
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slunky wrote:
_/ Gayle <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote \_
That one's definitely in Boston on Beacon Hill. Well, I'm
almost positive that it's Acorn St. but i could be wrong.
I like the faux gaslamps, too.
I must have seen the street before to have been thinking of something so
similar.
If you make it as far east as Boston on your way to
Vermont, we'll go walk on it.
I know. On every inpatient hospital stay I've had they've watched
Forrest Gump, and three times they've watched Splash. On long stays,
they play movies multiple times because I'm the only one that had
already seen it.
It was okay once, well, maybe twice. But relentlessly?
That would not contribute to my mental health.
Sounds like a decent program.
Yes, I think it might be. I didn't know they had this type of thing
here.
It's a good thing to know, eh? Maybe something helpful for
you has come out of this horrible day. Depending on if
it's any good, of course. Let me know afterwards, please.
I'm curious. Sometimes getting through the crisis may be
just the thing needed and better than a hospital stay.
Maybe. I sure hope so.
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09 Jan 2008 02:16:20 PM |
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_/ Gayle <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote \_
If you make it as far east as Boston on your way to
Vermont, we'll go walk on it.
That would be nice.
It was okay once, well, maybe twice. But relentlessly?
That would not contribute to my mental health.
I never watch TV or movies there anyways, but the TV is always so loud.
There isn't much I can do about it though when my only choices are
between seclusion and the day room with the TV. I just sort of see
watching movies all day in the hospital as I poor waste of time given
the resources available there, and at $2,000 a day, I can think of
things I'd rather do.
It's a good thing to know, eh? Maybe something helpful for
you has come out of this horrible day. Depending on if
it's any good, of course. Let me know afterwards, please.
I'm curious. Sometimes getting through the crisis may be
just the thing needed and better than a hospital stay.
Maybe. I sure hope so.
I hope so too. My therapist seemed to think it would be a good idea. She
called just now and said she doesn't know if I'll like it, but I'll give
it a shot.
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-slunky
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09 Jan 2008 02:21:24 PM |
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On Jan 9, 3:16=A0pm, slunky <slu...@globalzero.org> wrote:
_/ Gayle <gayl...@rcn.com> wrote \_
If you make it as far east as Boston on your way to
Vermont, we'll go walk on it.
That would be nice.
It was okay once, well, maybe twice. But relentlessly?
That would not contribute to my mental health.
I never watch TV or movies there anyways, but the TV is always so loud.
There isn't much I can do about it though when my only choices are
between seclusion and the day room with the TV. I just sort of see
watching movies all day in the hospital as I poor waste of time given
the resources available there, and at $2,000 a day, I can think of
things I'd rather do.
It's a good thing to know, eh? Maybe something helpful for
you has come out of this horrible day. Depending on if
it's any good, of course. Let me know afterwards, please.
I'm curious. Sometimes getting through the crisis may be
just the thing needed and better than a hospital stay.
Maybe. I sure hope so.
I hope so too. My therapist seemed to think it would be a good idea. She
called just now and said she doesn't know if I'll like it, but I'll give
it a shot.
--
=A0-slunky
Good.
Too bad about the tv. I think these people should put their heads
together and think of something more useful for the patients to do. A
movie here and there may be fine, but surely something more
interactive and fun would be better for you. I used to like going to
groups, play snooker, play records. Play the piano. This was at a
day centre, rather than hospital. Tv is like, a last resort.
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09 Jan 2008 02:24:21 PM |
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_/ Michelle la Belle 2nd <that-michelle@hotmail.com> wrote \_
Good.
Too bad about the tv. I think these people should put their heads
together and think of something more useful for the patients to do. A
movie here and there may be fine, but surely something more
interactive and fun would be better for you. I used to like going to
groups, play snooker, play records. Play the piano. This was at a
day centre, rather than hospital. Tv is like, a last resort.
They should be doing other things. They're encouraged to hold
unscheduled skills groups (they can't do therapy groups because techs
aren't licensed therapists) but they don't. We had three groups all
weekend the last time I was there. The rest of the time, the techs would
put on a movie and hang out in the nurse's station where no one could
talk to them. It was very frustrating.
--
-slunky
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09 Jan 2008 02:29:20 PM |
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On Jan 9, 3:24=A0pm, slunky <slu...@globalzero.org> wrote:
_/ Michelle la Belle 2nd <that-miche...@hotmail.com> wrote \_
Good.
Too bad about the tv. =A0I think these people should put their heads
together and think of something more useful for the patients to do. =A0A=
movie here and there may be fine, but surely something more
interactive and fun would be better for you. =A0I used to like going to
groups, play snooker, play records. =A0Play the piano. =A0This was at a
day centre, rather than hospital. =A0Tv is like, a last resort.
They should be doing other things. They're encouraged to hold
unscheduled skills groups (they can't do therapy groups because techs
aren't licensed therapists) but they don't. We had three groups all
weekend the last time I was there. The rest of the time, the techs would
put on a movie and hang out in the nurse's station where no one could
talk to them. It was very frustrating.
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=A0-slunky
Fucking mental health workers. lazy bastards! Well maybe there are
some things that you can do for yourself, if they can't be bothered.
Do they at least have some cards, or games, or paper and pencils?
Something?!
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09 Jan 2008 02:30:43 PM |
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Michelle la Belle 2nd wrote:
On Jan 9, 3:24 pm, slunky <slu...@globalzero.org> wrote:
_/ Michelle la Belle 2nd <that-miche...@hotmail.com> wrote \_
Good.
Too bad about the tv. I think these people should put their heads
together and think of something more useful for the patients to do.
A movie here and there may be fine, but surely something more
interactive and fun would be better for you. I used to like going to
groups, play snooker, play records. Play the piano. This was at a
day centre, rather than hospital. Tv is like, a last resort.
They should be doing other things. They're encouraged to hold
unscheduled skills groups (they can't do therapy groups because techs
aren't licensed therapists) but they don't. We had three groups all
weekend the last time I was there. The rest of the time, the techs
would put on a movie and hang out in the nurse's station where no
one could talk to them. It was very frustrating.
--
-slunky
Fucking mental health workers. lazy bastards! Well maybe there are
some things that you can do for yourself, if they can't be bothered.
Do they at least have some cards, or games, or paper and pencils?
Something?!
yay , poker , take everybody's money
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09 Jan 2008 02:32:50 PM |
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_/ Michelle la Belle 2nd <that-michelle@hotmail.com> wrote \_
Fucking mental health workers. lazy bastards! Well maybe there are
some things that you can do for yourself, if they can't be bothered.
Do they at least have some cards, or games, or paper and pencils?
Something?!
Yeah, they have those, but everyone there last time just slept. One or
two people would pass through, but there was no one to play cards with.
I was the only one up most of the time, and they knew I didn't want to
watch TV or movies. It wasn't too bad. Just the noise. Just layed there
and talked to myself.
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-slunky
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09 Jan 2008 02:45:24 PM |
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slunky wrote:
I never watch TV or movies there anyways, but the TV is always so loud.
There isn't much I can do about it though when my only choices are
between seclusion and the day room with the TV. I just sort of see
watching movies all day in the hospital as I poor waste of time given
the resources available there, and at $2,000 a day, I can think of
things I'd rather do.
What kinds of things do you think would be helpful?
It's a good thing to know, eh? Maybe something helpful for
you has come out of this horrible day. Depending on if
it's any good, of course. Let me know afterwards, please.
I'm curious. Sometimes getting through the crisis may be
just the thing needed and better than a hospital stay.
Maybe. I sure hope so.
I hope so too. My therapist seemed to think it would be a good idea. She
called just now and said she doesn't know if I'll like it, but I'll give
it a shot.
I like that she's not telling you something like, "oh,
it's terrific, you'll love it." She treats you with the
respect you deserve. Well, that's what it sounds like to me.
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09 Jan 2008 02:53:43 PM |
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_/ Gayle <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote \_
What kinds of things do you think would be helpful?
Skills groups, more rec therapy, medication information groups. They do
these things during the week sometimes. Depends who the techs are.
I like that she's not telling you something like, "oh,
it's terrific, you'll love it." She treats you with the
respect you deserve. Well, that's what it sounds like to me.
She does. She's very honest with me. She's not going to set me up for a
letdown. Just like with DBT. She's honest about that she doesn't think
I'm all that ready because of my cutting, but she's willing to work on
it with me, and she was very upfront that this will be her first DBT
experience with me as well.
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-slunky
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09 Jan 2008 12:10:54 PM |
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_/ % <persent@gmail.com> wrote \_
yea i feel for Slunky too but i've learned ,
when he gets like this suggestions seem useless ,
and none of them are possible so i leave it up to him now ,
he'll decide what he wants to do
You've got me pegged.
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-slunky
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09 Jan 2008 12:21:54 PM |
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slunky wrote:
_/ % <persent@gmail.com> wrote \_
yea i feel for Slunky too but i've learned ,
when he gets like this suggestions seem useless ,
and none of them are possible so i leave it up to him now ,
he'll decide what he wants to do
You've got me pegged.
well there's a surprise after all ,
how many times have we chatted , 2 , 3 maybe
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09 Jan 2008 12:36:35 PM |
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_/ % <persent@gmail.com> wrote \_
well there's a surprise after all ,
how many times have we chatted , 2 , 3 maybe
I don't know.
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