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09 Sep 2004 04:26:14 PM |
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As of October 1st.. |
FedEx will require all customers with shipments originating from Canada and
heading for the US to provide their social security number.
Not good. I have to find a way to ask without people feeling suspicious. I'll
also provide a toll free number to FedEx that they can call if they'd prefer to
handle it directly with FedEx. What a fucking hassle this is going to be.
Would YOU want to provide your social security number to someone you were buying
art supplies from? What *****.
(it's on topic because it's depressing)
Jean
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09 Sep 2004 04:41:20 PM |
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"Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:2qc03kFth9ftU1@uni-berlin.de...
FedEx will require all customers with shipments originating from Canada and
heading for the US to provide their social security number.
Not good. I have to find a way to ask without people feeling suspicious. I'll
also provide a toll free number to FedEx that they can call if they'd prefer to
handle it directly with FedEx. What a fucking hassle this is going to be.
Would YOU want to provide your social security number to someone you were buying
art supplies from? What *****.
(it's on topic because it's depressing)
Jean
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09 Sep 2004 04:42:52 PM |
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"%" <surfs@uniserve> wrote in message news:10k1jh5dmssisf6@corp.supernews.com...
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Human Rights Code
I was thinking - 9/11 commission.
Jean
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| User: "Contrarian" |
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09 Sep 2004 10:39:31 PM |
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Luna <jean_collins@hotmail.com> wrote:
Would YOU want to provide your social security number to someone you were buying
art supplies from? What *****.
(it's on topic because it's depressing)
too depressing also illegal no?
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| User: "Luna" |
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10 Sep 2004 04:11:42 AM |
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"Contrarian" <adrba@tcyn.net> wrote in message
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Luna <jean_collins@hotmail.com> wrote:
Would YOU want to provide your social security number to someone you were
buying
art supplies from? What *****.
(it's on topic because it's depressing)
too depressing also illegal no?
I don't know, Monsieur Contrarian. I'm suspecting that Patriot Act thing might
be covering this - or because we are shipping from Canada (that terrorist
hotspot doncha know) that we are required to go the extra mile in verifying our
customer's identities. We all know terrorists love to paint.
Do you know the guy on PBS who paints happy clouds and likes to refer to
mistakes in art as "happy accidents"? His name is Bob Ross and we ship a ton of
his stuff south of the border.
Given the paranoia/cynicism level of people in the US post 9/11 (and I don't
blame them) as well as all of the white noise regarding identity theft, I'm
thinking this is going to be a major hurdle for us. My sister/partner and I
joke that we're going to end up working at WalMart soon. We laugh but we're
scared.
Jean
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| User: "epicphart" |
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10 Sep 2004 09:40:57 PM |
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Luna wrote:
FedEx will require all customers with shipments originating from Canada and
heading for the US to provide their social security number.
Not good. I have to find a way to ask without people feeling suspicious. I'll
also provide a toll free number to FedEx that they can call if they'd prefer to
handle it directly with FedEx. What a fucking hassle this is going to be.
Would YOU want to provide your social security number to someone you were buying
art supplies from? What *****.
(it's on topic because it's depressing)
Jean
buy argentina
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| User: "Nina" |
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09 Sep 2004 05:23:05 PM |
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On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 17:26:14 -0400, "Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com>
wrote:
FedEx will require all customers with shipments originating from Canada and
heading for the US to provide their social security number.
Not good. I have to find a way to ask without people feeling suspicious. I'll
also provide a toll free number to FedEx that they can call if they'd prefer to
handle it directly with FedEx. What a fucking hassle this is going to be.
Would YOU want to provide your social security number to someone you were buying
art supplies from? What *****.
(it's on topic because it's depressing)
Yeah, it is. And it doesn't really seem wise, from a FexEx point of
view, either. What about an alternative shipper? UPS? Will they do
that too?
I ship things too, in my alternate job, so this sort of thing
interests me. Plus is a BIG deterrent to buying things from Canada if
you don't trust the company... or FedEx...
Nina
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| User: "Luna" |
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09 Sep 2004 05:48:21 PM |
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"Nina" <ninaNOSPAM@economika.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 17:26:14 -0400, "Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com>
wrote:
FedEx will require all customers with shipments originating from Canada and
heading for the US to provide their social security number.
Not good. I have to find a way to ask without people feeling suspicious.
I'll
also provide a toll free number to FedEx that they can call if they'd prefer
to
handle it directly with FedEx. What a fucking hassle this is going to be.
Would YOU want to provide your social security number to someone you were
buying
art supplies from? What *****.
(it's on topic because it's depressing)
Yeah, it is. And it doesn't really seem wise, from a FexEx point of
view, either. What about an alternative shipper? UPS? Will they do
that too?
They will, the only people who aren't doing this is the postal system, but
likely that is just a matter of time. I think fedex et al are compelled to do
this - even though it was a legal requirement a full TWO YEARS ago - it is just
now being enforced.
I ship things too, in my alternate job, so this sort of thing
interests me. Plus is a BIG deterrent to buying things from Canada if
you don't trust the company... or FedEx...
Exactly, so I have to write a convincing, witty and evocative of homeland
security ***** thing on the checkout page of our store.
Fwiw, this does not apply to domestic orders shipped within your borders. We
might have to get a warehouse in Montana or something. So much for NAFTA. I
can't help but paranoically think this is payback for Canada's lack of support
in Iraq.
Jean
Nina
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| User: "Gayle" |
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09 Sep 2004 07:22:06 PM |
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Luna wrote:
so I have to write a convincing, witty and evocative of homeland
security ***** thing on the checkout page of our store.
Did Fed-X write anything remotely witty or convincing to you,
their customer? Or did they just cite the law? This is more
than depressing, it's an outrage. And whatever it is that this
is supposed to do is hardly insurmountable. Those in the
business of doing harm have no problem getting fake SSNs.
Gayle
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| User: "Luna" |
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10 Sep 2004 11:26:00 AM |
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"Gayle" <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote in message
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Luna wrote:
so I have to write a convincing, witty and evocative of homeland
security ***** thing on the checkout page of our store.
Did Fed-X write anything remotely witty or convincing to you,
their customer? Or did they just cite the law? This is more
than depressing, it's an outrage. And whatever it is that this
is supposed to do is hardly insurmountable. Those in the
business of doing harm have no problem getting fake SSNs.
Absolutely - I think what is going on here is that they are making sure that the
people being shipped items are real. I mean, they could be painting terrorists,
right?
Another new development - we have to fill out paperwork for every video and dvd
that we sell swearing that it's not porn. Okay, have you ever seen Bob Ross or
Donna Dewberry's one stroke painting shows on HSN? Pretty racy stuff.
Jean
Gayle
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| User: "Nina" |
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09 Sep 2004 06:08:41 PM |
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On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 18:48:21 -0400, "Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Fwiw, this does not apply to domestic orders shipped within your borders. We
might have to get a warehouse in Montana or something. So much for NAFTA. I
can't help but paranoically think this is payback for Canada's lack of support
in Iraq.
I'm pretty sure that's paranoia... BUT... the interesting thing is
it's another example of things done in the name of homeland security
(I loathe that term) that seem, in some ways, sensible, but have
implications that are probably not obvious to the people who make the
policy.
I had breakfast this morning (me and 30 other people, that is) with
the president of the Federal Reserve Bank of NY, who is a huge head
honcho in central bank monetary policy. He gave a very, very
interesting talk about a lot of things, most of which would probably
only interest me and Thor, but one of the things that he said, kind of
as an aside, was about a related issue, foreign students in the US.
It's become a lot harder to get into the US as a student, and while,
in many ways, you can see the huge amount of sense that makes from a
9-11 point of view. But (and I'm paraphrasing what he said, although
I totally agree with it) part of what has made US economy innovative
and technologically advanced has been the fact that it's been an open
and inviting place for smart people, and so there's been this terrific
inflow of human capital in the form of students, as well as in other
ways. And this runs the risk of cutting that off. So... sensible
precaution, unexpected negative spillovers. I don't know what the
answer is, but it's something worth thinking about.
Nina
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10 Sep 2004 07:57:13 AM |
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On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 17:26:14 -0400, "Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com>
wrote:
FedEx will require all customers with shipments originating from Canada and
heading for the US to provide their social security number.
Not good. I have to find a way to ask without people feeling suspicious. I'll
also provide a toll free number to FedEx that they can call if they'd prefer to
handle it directly with FedEx. What a fucking hassle this is going to be.
Would YOU want to provide your social security number to someone you were buying
art supplies from? What *****.
(it's on topic because it's depressing)
i hate fed ex. when my rat cage got stolen they just jerked me around
and jerked me around. the people i bought the cage replaced it for
free, but i don't think i'll buy from them again as long as they ship
fed ex.
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shocked and slightly embarrassed
at the sight of larry in a towel
http://shattering.org
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| User: "Luna" |
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10 Sep 2004 11:27:00 AM |
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"elegy" <elegy@shattering.org> wrote in message
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On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 17:26:14 -0400, "Luna"
<snip>
i hate fed ex. when my rat cage got stolen they just jerked me around
and jerked me around. the people i bought the cage replaced it for
free, but i don't think i'll buy from them again as long as they ship
fed ex.
We have one other option, which is to ship post - not trackable, slower, more
expensive. So far, no demands for SSN #'s from the post office.
Jean
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shocked and slightly embarrassed
at the sight of larry in a towel
http://shattering.org
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11 Sep 2004 01:37:05 AM |
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On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 12:27:00 -0400, "Luna"
<jean_collins@hotmail.com> wrote:
We have one other option, which is to ship post - not trackable, slower,=
more
expensive. So far, no demands for SSN #'s from the post office.
Jean
Brown wants a hell of a lot of personal info, and they cost lotz
I'm sticking with the post office. so I gotta drive into gnarly
town? big deal. it's fifteen minutes extra at half the cost
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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10 Sep 2004 11:18:47 AM |
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It's up to the shipper to initiate a loss/damage claim with FedEx.
"elegy" <elegy@shattering.org> wrote in message
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On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 17:26:14 -0400, "Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com>
wrote:
FedEx will require all customers with shipments originating from Canada
and
heading for the US to provide their social security number.
Not good. I have to find a way to ask without people feeling suspicious.
I'll
also provide a toll free number to FedEx that they can call if they'd
prefer to
handle it directly with FedEx. What a fucking hassle this is going to be.
Would YOU want to provide your social security number to someone you were
buying
art supplies from? What *****.
(it's on topic because it's depressing)
i hate fed ex. when my rat cage got stolen they just jerked me around
and jerked me around. the people i bought the cage replaced it for
free, but i don't think i'll buy from them again as long as they ship
fed ex.
---
shocked and slightly embarrassed
at the sight of larry in a towel
http://shattering.org
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| User: "Luna" |
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10 Sep 2004 11:23:53 AM |
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"Franz Bestuchev" <fbestuchev@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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It's up to the shipper to initiate a loss/damage claim with FedEx.
If the shipper is decent but lots of websites have disclaimers that state that
they are not responsible for items lost in transit. For damaged stuff I always
get the customer to call fedex themselves to arrange the inspection - they know
their own schedules better than I do!
We always re-ship them once the inspection is done.
Jean
"elegy" <elegy@shattering.org> wrote in message
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On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 17:26:14 -0400, "Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com>
wrote:
FedEx will require all customers with shipments originating from Canada
and
heading for the US to provide their social security number.
Not good. I have to find a way to ask without people feeling suspicious.
I'll
also provide a toll free number to FedEx that they can call if they'd
prefer to
handle it directly with FedEx. What a fucking hassle this is going to be.
Would YOU want to provide your social security number to someone you were
buying
art supplies from? What *****.
(it's on topic because it's depressing)
i hate fed ex. when my rat cage got stolen they just jerked me around
and jerked me around. the people i bought the cage replaced it for
free, but i don't think i'll buy from them again as long as they ship
fed ex.
---
shocked and slightly embarrassed
at the sight of larry in a towel
http://shattering.org
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| User: "Nina" |
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10 Sep 2004 11:31:23 AM |
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On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:57:13 -0400, elegy <elegy@shattering.org>
wrote:
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 17:26:14 -0400, "Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com>
wrote:
FedEx will require all customers with shipments originating from Canada and
heading for the US to provide their social security number.
Not good. I have to find a way to ask without people feeling suspicious. I'll
also provide a toll free number to FedEx that they can call if they'd prefer to
handle it directly with FedEx. What a fucking hassle this is going to be.
Would YOU want to provide your social security number to someone you were buying
art supplies from? What *****.
(it's on topic because it's depressing)
i hate fed ex. when my rat cage got stolen they just jerked me around
and jerked me around. the people i bought the cage replaced it for
free, but i don't think i'll buy from them again as long as they ship
fed ex.
I've never had any trouble with FedEx, but get this. When I was in
England this summer, I had a CD that I needed to send 2-day delivery
to the US. So we phoned UPS. They quoted £28, which is about $45...
pretty outrageous but sort of worth it. Today they sent Michael
another bill, saying that the real price was £72... about $150.
I am completely outraged and furious. I mean, if I'd known that
price, I would NEVER have sent the CD, not that way anyway. And
apparently they have the power to do this, and to keep billing one of
us until it gets paid.
It remains to be seen what will happen, but I will never, ever use UPS
for anything again, particularly if it's international.
Nina
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10 Sep 2004 03:20:01 PM |
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"Nina" <ninaNOSPAM@economika.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:57:13 -0400, elegy <elegy@shattering.org>
wrote:
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 17:26:14 -0400, "Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com>
wrote:
FedEx will require all customers with shipments originating from Canada and
heading for the US to provide their social security number.
Not good. I have to find a way to ask without people feeling suspicious.
I'll
also provide a toll free number to FedEx that they can call if they'd prefer
to
handle it directly with FedEx. What a fucking hassle this is going to be.
Would YOU want to provide your social security number to someone you were
buying
art supplies from? What *****.
(it's on topic because it's depressing)
i hate fed ex. when my rat cage got stolen they just jerked me around
and jerked me around. the people i bought the cage replaced it for
free, but i don't think i'll buy from them again as long as they ship
fed ex.
I've never had any trouble with FedEx, but get this. When I was in
England this summer, I had a CD that I needed to send 2-day delivery
to the US. So we phoned UPS. They quoted £28, which is about $45...
pretty outrageous but sort of worth it. Today they sent Michael
another bill, saying that the real price was £72... about $150.
I am completely outraged and furious. I mean, if I'd known that
price, I would NEVER have sent the CD, not that way anyway. And
apparently they have the power to do this, and to keep billing one of
us until it gets paid.
It remains to be seen what will happen, but I will never, ever use UPS
for anything again, particularly if it's international.
Holy crap I hate couriers.
For one thing - their terms (with us) are net ten days, all of our other
suppliers are net 30. As well we used to ship overseas - mainly to the UK and
Ireland - but people were so shocked by the price to ship that they'd decline
the orders - after we had picked packed and weighed them in order to calculate
freight. Monumental waste of time.
We tried sending post and sometimes it took 4 - 6 weeks to arrive, people would
freak out and we couldn't track anything.
So now whenever I get inquiries from Australia, England and Western Europe I
just say no. When we get inquiries from Indonesia, Russia or Nigeria I do the
dance with them and let them think we're shipping. Hah.
There are two ways to spot the people trying to rip you off - their orders
originate from poor countries with high crime and they try to order shitloads of
stuff.
Jean
Nina
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09 Sep 2004 04:58:59 PM |
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i never give out my ssn accept to banks, the irs and an my job. i don't
even give it out at the docs office. if i were you i'd chuck fedex tell
them where they can shove it .. no that might get you on a 'list' and not
the 'luna is cool' list .. the other list.
"Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Not good. I have to find a way to ask without people feeling suspicious.
I'll
| also provide a toll free number to FedEx that they can call if they'd
prefer to
| handle it directly with FedEx. What a fucking hassle this is going to be.
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| Would YOU want to provide your social security number to someone you were
buying
| art supplies from? What *****.
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09 Sep 2004 05:03:58 PM |
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" SortaLily" <up.downn@near.far> wrote in message
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i never give out my ssn accept to banks, the irs and an my job. i don't
even give it out at the docs office. if i were you i'd chuck fedex tell
them where they can shove it .. no that might get you on a 'list' and not
the 'luna is cool' list .. the other list.
hah, i know! The problem is, little ol me can't tell gigantic ol' fedex to
shove anything. If we can't ship we can't sell.
By the way, I'm with you - I don't give out my SIN (that's what it's called
here) to anyone. I'd think it was weird to be asked. This is the problem.
Jean
"Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| FedEx will require all customers with shipments originating from Canada
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| heading for the US to provide their social security number.
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| Not good. I have to find a way to ask without people feeling suspicious.
I'll
| also provide a toll free number to FedEx that they can call if they'd
prefer to
| handle it directly with FedEx. What a fucking hassle this is going to be.
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| Would YOU want to provide your social security number to someone you were
buying
| art supplies from? What *****.
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| (it's on topic because it's depressing)
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| Jean
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09 Sep 2004 06:24:49 PM |
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On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 18:03:58 -0400, "Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com> wrote:
" SortaLily" <up.downn@near.far> wrote in message
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i never give out my ssn accept to banks, the irs and an my job. i don't
even give it out at the docs office. if i were you i'd chuck fedex tell
them where they can shove it .. no that might get you on a 'list' and not
the 'luna is cool' list .. the other list.
hah, i know! The problem is, little ol me can't tell gigantic ol' fedex to
shove anything. If we can't ship we can't sell.
By the way, I'm with you - I don't give out my SIN (that's what it's called
here) to anyone. I'd think it was weird to be asked. This is the problem.
In the U.S. there is actually a law prohibiting the SSN from being used as
an ID of any sort. It's for government purposed only.
The law has been completely ignored of course. SSN's have been as ID for
nearly everything. That's changing somewhat now that identity theft has
become a problem.
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DISCUSSION, n. A method of confirming others in their errors.
- Ambrose Bierce
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09 Sep 2004 07:21:49 PM |
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"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 18:03:58 -0400, "Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com> wrote:
" SortaLily" <up.downn@near.far> wrote in message
news:4140d224$0$6930$61fed72c@news.rcn.com...
i never give out my ssn accept to banks, the irs and an my job. i don't
even give it out at the docs office. if i were you i'd chuck fedex tell
them where they can shove it .. no that might get you on a 'list' and not
the 'luna is cool' list .. the other list.
hah, i know! The problem is, little ol me can't tell gigantic ol' fedex to
shove anything. If we can't ship we can't sell.
By the way, I'm with you - I don't give out my SIN (that's what it's called
here) to anyone. I'd think it was weird to be asked. This is the problem.
In the U.S. there is actually a law prohibiting the SSN from being used as
an ID of any sort. It's for government purposed only.
It's the same here - is this law a myth? Because I'm finding it hard to
understand how US Customs can reasonably expect us to demand this kind of
information from our customers.
The law has been completely ignored of course. SSN's have been as ID for
nearly everything. That's changing somewhat now that identity theft has
become a problem.
That's why I'd be very hesitant to provide any of this sort of information.
It's insane. Why would anyone trust an online company with their SSN
information?
Jean
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DISCUSSION, n. A method of confirming others in their errors.
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| User: "dennis" |
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09 Sep 2004 09:01:26 PM |
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On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 23:24:49 GMT, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 18:03:58 -0400, "Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com> wrote:
" SortaLily" <up.downn@near.far> wrote in message
news:4140d224$0$6930$61fed72c@news.rcn.com...
i never give out my ssn accept to banks, the irs and an my job. i don't
even give it out at the docs office. if i were you i'd chuck fedex tell
them where they can shove it .. no that might get you on a 'list' and not
the 'luna is cool' list .. the other list.
hah, i know! The problem is, little ol me can't tell gigantic ol' fedex to
shove anything. If we can't ship we can't sell.
By the way, I'm with you - I don't give out my SIN (that's what it's called
here) to anyone. I'd think it was weird to be asked. This is the problem.
In the U.S. there is actually a law prohibiting the SSN from being used as
an ID of any sort. It's for government purposed only.
The law has been completely ignored of course. SSN's have been as ID for
nearly everything. That's changing somewhat now that identity theft has
become a problem.
it is?
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| User: " SortaLily" |
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| Title: Re: As of October 1st.. |
09 Sep 2004 06:43:27 PM |
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it ticked me off when i tried to get one of those supermarket "discount'
cards and they wanted my ssn ..
heck i walked out of the store ..
"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
news:0ep1k0ldbalns6qihdhkv56e24cijbshoa@4ax.com...
| On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 18:03:58 -0400, "Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com>
wrote:
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| >" SortaLily" <up.downn@near.far> wrote in message
| >news:4140d224$0$6930$61fed72c@news.rcn.com...
| >> i never give out my ssn accept to banks, the irs and an my job. i
don't
| >> even give it out at the docs office. if i were you i'd chuck fedex
tell
| >> them where they can shove it .. no that might get you on a 'list' and
not
| >> the 'luna is cool' list .. the other list.
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| >hah, i know! The problem is, little ol me can't tell gigantic ol' fedex
to
| >shove anything. If we can't ship we can't sell.
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| >By the way, I'm with you - I don't give out my SIN (that's what it's
called
| >here) to anyone. I'd think it was weird to be asked. This is the
problem.
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| In the U.S. there is actually a law prohibiting the SSN from being used as
| an ID of any sort. It's for government purposed only.
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| The law has been completely ignored of course. SSN's have been as ID for
| nearly everything. That's changing somewhat now that identity theft has
| become a problem.
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| DISCUSSION, n. A method of confirming others in their errors.
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| - Ambrose Bierce
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