Today after dinner, I went into the bathroom to see what Kristina and Maia
were up to.
"Only girls," Maia said. "No boys."
Phooie. She's growing up.
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09 Aug 2005 09:56:25 AM |
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On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 04:41:13 GMT, "John" <jjdamato@hawaii.rr.com>
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Today after dinner, I went into the bathroom to see what Kristina and Maia
were up to.
"Only girls," Maia said. "No boys."
Phooie. She's growing up.
Awww....poor John.
LOL.
p
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09 Aug 2005 08:49:52 PM |
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On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 07:56:25 -0700, ponette <ponette0000@yahoo.com>
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On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 04:41:13 GMT, "John" <jjdamato@hawaii.rr.com>
wrote:
Today after dinner, I went into the bathroom to see what Kristina and Maia
were up to.
"Only girls," Maia said. "No boys."
Phooie. She's growing up.
Awww....poor John.
LOL.
p
Sorry if I wasn't properly sympathetic. My husband is outnumbered,
too, by females. I finally got a male cat, many years back, but I
don't think that made him feel any better.
Best wishes,
p
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| User: "John" |
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10 Aug 2005 03:43:07 PM |
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"ponette" <ponette0000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 07:56:25 -0700, ponette <ponette0000@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 04:41:13 GMT, "John" <jjdamato@hawaii.rr.com>
wrote:
Today after dinner, I went into the bathroom to see what Kristina and
Maia
were up to.
"Only girls," Maia said. "No boys."
Phooie. She's growing up.
Awww....poor John.
LOL.
p
Sorry if I wasn't properly sympathetic. My husband is outnumbered,
too, by females. I finally got a male cat, many years back, but I
don't think that made him feel any better.
Best wishes,
p
This morning, I woke up with her face plastered against mine, eyes open and
smiling. Then she rolled over and pulled my arm over her like a blanket.
Girls have their rewards. <:o)
Now if I could just get Kristina and Maia to stop doing battle over what
Maia is going to wear....
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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11 Aug 2005 09:41:17 AM |
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"John" <jdamato@noone.home> wrote in message
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Now if I could just get Kristina and Maia to stop doing battle over what
Maia is going to wear....
You will. In about 18 years when she's too old to be told. <g> It's a
power struggle. An attempt at control from one who has little of it. A
good sign actually. It means Maia is developmentally on track with this
display of independence. The experts recommend you choose your battles
carefully. Some things just aren't as important as others. Allow her two
days a week to dress herself. Put a calendar at eye level where she can see
it and mark off Tuesday and Thursday making it clear to her that she picks
out her clothes on those days and Kristina picks out her close on the other
days. This is where it gets difficult. I can almost guarantee she is going
to pick out clothes you may not approve of. Hideously clashing colours and
patterns. Mismatched socks. Weather inappropriate apparel. Bite your
tongue and let her do it anyway. It is not the end of the world if her
clothes don't match. If you feel really strongly about appearances don't
schedule any appointments on those days and limit her public exposure
to...say...just the park. OTOH going out in public specifically to show her
off on those *I can dress myself* days - no matter how awful her choices -
will have a very positive impact on her self esteem. People will
understand. I remember when my oldest son was about 3 and I would take him
to the grocery store in a green t-shirt, red shorts, a white sock, a blue
sock and running shoes. People would glance and I would smile and say..."He
chose his own clothes and dressed himself today." They would lock eyes with
me for a second and reply..."Ohhhhhh...well aren't you a handsome young man.
What good job you did." He would beam from ear to ear as I mouthed the
words "thank you." And if they don't understand; screw 'em.
On days when Kristina picks out her clothes there is probably still going to
be a show down anyway. Kids that age don't know "fair". I found that
distracting them from the argument by turning it into a game made it easier.
Particularly if they are challenged. I would put on a CD and say..."I bet
you can't finish dressing by the time this song is over." I would get
a..."Oh, yes I can. Just watch me!" At that point it didn't matter that
*I* had chosen the clothes that day. It was suddenly forgotten in the face
of a challenge that was more important and took precedent in his young and
developing mind.
Allowing her to make choices over the more benign things, like clothing,
will make her feel important...that her opinion matters...that she can be
trusted to decide...that you are acknowledging and validating her
independence and the best part of the two day-three day system is that it
teaches compromise without hurt feelings or a sense of being cheated. It is
a very slow process and it can be frustrating as hell. And what works for
some children won't work for other children. There is always an exception
to every rule. The parent must decide which method works best. It means
being a creative genius at times. Some days you have to be extraordinarily
patient and it's terribly difficult, but
nurturing their self esteem is so critical, any amount of work is never too
much, and in the end it's worth it. My oldest, now 19, aside from ordinary
teenage angst, is a well grounded young man with impeccable taste in
clothing and never leaves the house without looking his best. <g>
You may also want to visit the library and have a look at the following
books. Despite the fact that they are now outdated from when I first read
them they still contain valuable information. However, I do recommend you
add some current publications to the list.
Briggs, Dorothy. *Your Child's Self-Esteem.* Garden City, N.Y.: Doubleday,
1970
Borba, Michele. *Esteem Builders: Parent Guide.* Jalmar Press, Rolling Hills
Marston, Stephanie. *The Magic of Encouragement.* Morrow Publishing Co., New
York, N.Y., 1990
Marshall B Stearn. *The relationship of parent effectiveness training to
parent attitudes, parent behaviour and child self-esteem.* 1971
Louise Bates Ames, Frances L. Ilg *Your Three-Year-Old : Friend or Enemy*
1985 (Part of the Gesell Institute Child Development Series - Series of age
related books from year 1 to year 12.)
Good luck. :)
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rhianon@sympatico.ca
"All those who believe in psychokinesis
raise my hand."
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| User: "John" |
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| Title: Re: Aw, shucks |
11 Aug 2005 06:52:26 PM |
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Wow.
Thank you.
That was very helpful.
ps I couldn't care less whether she wears orange with chartreuse. I think
this is Kristina's thing.
"Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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"John" <jdamato@noone.home> wrote in message
news:vFtKe.8392$vf.588@tornado.socal.rr.com...
Now if I could just get Kristina and Maia to stop doing battle over what
Maia is going to wear....
You will. In about 18 years when she's too old to be told. <g> It's a
power struggle. An attempt at control from one who has little of it. A
good sign actually. It means Maia is developmentally on track with this
display of independence. The experts recommend you choose your battles
carefully. Some things just aren't as important as others. Allow her two
days a week to dress herself. Put a calendar at eye level where she can
see
it and mark off Tuesday and Thursday making it clear to her that she picks
out her clothes on those days and Kristina picks out her close on the
other
days. This is where it gets difficult. I can almost guarantee she is
going
to pick out clothes you may not approve of. Hideously clashing colours
and
patterns. Mismatched socks. Weather inappropriate apparel. Bite your
tongue and let her do it anyway. It is not the end of the world if her
clothes don't match. If you feel really strongly about appearances don't
schedule any appointments on those days and limit her public exposure
to...say...just the park. OTOH going out in public specifically to show
her
off on those *I can dress myself* days - no matter how awful her choices -
will have a very positive impact on her self esteem. People will
understand. I remember when my oldest son was about 3 and I would take
him
to the grocery store in a green t-shirt, red shorts, a white sock, a blue
sock and running shoes. People would glance and I would smile and
say..."He
chose his own clothes and dressed himself today." They would lock eyes
with
me for a second and reply..."Ohhhhhh...well aren't you a handsome young
man.
What good job you did." He would beam from ear to ear as I mouthed the
words "thank you." And if they don't understand; screw 'em.
On days when Kristina picks out her clothes there is probably still going
to
be a show down anyway. Kids that age don't know "fair". I found that
distracting them from the argument by turning it into a game made it
easier.
Particularly if they are challenged. I would put on a CD and say..."I bet
you can't finish dressing by the time this song is over." I would get
a..."Oh, yes I can. Just watch me!" At that point it didn't matter that
*I* had chosen the clothes that day. It was suddenly forgotten in the
face
of a challenge that was more important and took precedent in his young and
developing mind.
Allowing her to make choices over the more benign things, like clothing,
will make her feel important...that her opinion matters...that she can be
trusted to decide...that you are acknowledging and validating her
independence and the best part of the two day-three day system is that it
teaches compromise without hurt feelings or a sense of being cheated. It
is
a very slow process and it can be frustrating as hell. And what works for
some children won't work for other children. There is always an exception
to every rule. The parent must decide which method works best. It means
being a creative genius at times. Some days you have to be
extraordinarily
patient and it's terribly difficult, but
nurturing their self esteem is so critical, any amount of work is never
too
much, and in the end it's worth it. My oldest, now 19, aside from
ordinary
teenage angst, is a well grounded young man with impeccable taste in
clothing and never leaves the house without looking his best. <g>
You may also want to visit the library and have a look at the following
books. Despite the fact that they are now outdated from when I first read
them they still contain valuable information. However, I do recommend you
add some current publications to the list.
Briggs, Dorothy. *Your Child's Self-Esteem.* Garden City, N.Y.: Doubleday,
1970
Borba, Michele. *Esteem Builders: Parent Guide.* Jalmar Press, Rolling
Hills
Marston, Stephanie. *The Magic of Encouragement.* Morrow Publishing Co.,
New
York, N.Y., 1990
Marshall B Stearn. *The relationship of parent effectiveness training to
parent attitudes, parent behaviour and child self-esteem.* 1971
Louise Bates Ames, Frances L. Ilg *Your Three-Year-Old : Friend or Enemy*
1985 (Part of the Gesell Institute Child Development Series - Series of
age
related books from year 1 to year 12.)
Good luck. :)
--
rhianon@sympatico.ca
"All those who believe in psychokinesis
raise my hand."
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| Title: Re: Aw, shucks |
12 Aug 2005 12:50:29 PM |
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"John" <jdamato@noone.home> wrote in message
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Wow.
Thank you.
That was very helpful.
You're welcome. :)
ps I couldn't care less whether she wears orange with chartreuse. I think
this is Kristina's thing.
I figured as much. This particular issue does seem to be more of a
challenge for mother's than it is for father's. But I have to say you may
be better at this than you realize. In muted tones orange and chartreuse
can work well together. Makes me wonder if there isn't a frustrated
designer struggling to get out of the lawyer. <g>
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rhianon@sympatico.ca
"All those who believe in psychokinesis
raise my hand."
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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10 Aug 2005 11:34:05 PM |
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John wrote...
"ponette" <ponette0000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 07:56:25 -0700, ponette
<ponette0000@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 04:41:13 GMT, "John"
<jjdamato@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
Today after dinner, I went into the bathroom to see what
Kristina and Maia
were up to.
"Only girls," Maia said. "No boys."
Phooie. She's growing up.
Awww....poor John.
LOL.
p
Sorry if I wasn't properly sympathetic. My husband is
outnumbered, too, by females. I finally got a male cat,
many years back, but I don't think that made him feel any
better.
Best wishes,
p
This morning, I woke up with her face plastered against
mine, eyes open and smiling. Then she rolled over and
pulled my arm over her like a blanket.
Girls have their rewards. <:o)
Now if I could just get Kristina and Maia to stop doing
battle over what Maia is going to wear....
:-)
i read an idea someplace that it often works to put outfits
together on a single hanger. then she gets to pick the hanger
she's going to wear.
my kids often wore some strange outfits to preschool. like when
michael found the snow boots on a 90 degree day... i gave up and
figured so long as they were dressed at all, we were good to go.
-lisa
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| User: "ponette" |
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| Title: Re: Aw, shucks |
10 Aug 2005 11:36:50 PM |
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On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 20:43:07 GMT, "John" <jdamato@noone.home> wrote:
This morning, I woke up with her face plastered against mine, eyes open and
smiling. Then she rolled over and pulled my arm over her like a blanket.
Awwwwwww..............how sweet.
Girls have their rewards. <:o)
I'd like to think so. ;)
Now if I could just get Kristina and Maia to stop doing battle over what
Maia is going to wear....
I won't go there. I just won't.
p :)
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