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23 Aug 2005 01:09:25 PM |
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better be fired then quit,I guess... |
I had my first day of work today... honestly,I'm not sure how long
I'll last... people tell me that I'm smart, but when it comes to
concrete,details oriented thinking, and my short term memory,I'm pretty
far behind other people,I think... However,I guess the best attitude
for me to have is to just try my best, and try to stay calm and
relaxed. the more anxious I am, the worse I function... I guess if I
get fired, I'll still be able to know that I tried hard, and that I
didn't quit... What else can you do, but try?
-"Alvintchase"
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23 Aug 2005 01:49:07 PM |
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"AlvinTChase" <relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I had my first day of work today... honestly,I'm not sure how long
I'll last... people tell me that I'm smart, but when it comes to
concrete,details oriented thinking, and my short term memory,I'm pretty
far behind other people,I think... However,I guess the best attitude
for me to have is to just try my best, and try to stay calm and
relaxed. the more anxious I am, the worse I function... I guess if I
get fired, I'll still be able to know that I tried hard, and that I
didn't quit... What else can you do, but try?
-"Alvintchase"
Believe it or not, I've only had two jobs in my life. Spent 25 years in the
USMC. Then 20 years as a double E for a well known defense contractor. So
I'm not too familiar with first day jitters. Hang in there Alvin. Don't
doubt your ability to do the job. Cut yourself some slack.
I have faith you can do it.
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| User: "AlvinTChase" |
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| Title: Re: better be fired then quit,I guess... |
23 Aug 2005 01:51:56 PM |
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Mad Season wrote:
"AlvinTChase" <relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124820565.047037.84610@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I had my first day of work today... honestly,I'm not sure how long
I'll last... people tell me that I'm smart, but when it comes to
concrete,details oriented thinking, and my short term memory,I'm pretty
far behind other people,I think... However,I guess the best attitude
for me to have is to just try my best, and try to stay calm and
relaxed. the more anxious I am, the worse I function... I guess if I
get fired, I'll still be able to know that I tried hard, and that I
didn't quit... What else can you do, but try?
-"Alvintchase"
Believe it or not, I've only had two jobs in my life. Spent 25 years in the
USMC. Then 20 years as a double E for a well known defense contractor. So
I'm not too familiar with first day jitters. Hang in there Alvin. Don't
doubt your ability to do the job. Cut yourself some slack.
I have faith you can do it.
thanks... I guess I just have to hang in there. What else can you
do?...
thanks again...
"Alvintchase"
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| User: "AlvinTChase" |
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23 Aug 2005 02:11:12 PM |
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AlvinTChase wrote:
It's funny, I just looked up a few posts from Oct.1997, when I got
my job at the other health food store... It's funny how patterns seem
to repeat themselves often... Maybe in another 8 years, I'll be
writing about my next long term job...
-"Alvintchase"
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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23 Aug 2005 08:03:43 PM |
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6 months before you'll feel comfortable in any job
always
never been different for me
"AlvinTChase" <relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124820565.047037.84610@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I had my first day of work today... honestly,I'm not sure how long
I'll last... people tell me that I'm smart, but when it comes to
concrete,details oriented thinking, and my short term memory,I'm pretty
far behind other people,I think... However,I guess the best attitude
for me to have is to just try my best, and try to stay calm and
relaxed. the more anxious I am, the worse I function... I guess if I
get fired, I'll still be able to know that I tried hard, and that I
didn't quit... What else can you do, but try?
-"Alvintchase"
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| User: "AlvinTChase" |
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24 Aug 2005 11:52:55 AM |
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Thanks for your support everyone... I really appreciate it...
-"Alvintchase"
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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23 Aug 2005 02:14:27 PM |
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On 23 Aug 2005 11:09:25 -0700, "AlvinTChase" <relayer211@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I had my first day of work today... honestly,I'm not sure how long
I'll last... people tell me that I'm smart, but when it comes to
concrete,details oriented thinking, and my short term memory,I'm pretty
far behind other people,I think... However,I guess the best attitude
for me to have is to just try my best, and try to stay calm and
relaxed. the more anxious I am, the worse I function... I guess if I
get fired, I'll still be able to know that I tried hard, and that I
didn't quit... What else can you do, but try?
Concrete detail orientation such as...? Maybe if you give us some examples
we can offer advice.
Me, I keep a lot of notes.
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Move tax day to the day before election day. And for good measure, abolish
withholding. Imagine if people trudged to the polls the day after sending
fat checks to the IRS. That might bring the incumbents down a notch.
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| User: "AlvinTChase" |
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23 Aug 2005 02:21:18 PM |
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CyberDroog wrote:
Concrete detail orientation such as...? Maybe if you give us some examples
we can offer advice.
Me, I keep a lot of notes.
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Thanks... Well, it's hard to give examples... I have a very
abstract, associative way of thinking... I think a lot about
psychological issues,memories,philosophiocal issues,and other stuff...
I have a really good long term memory but a very poor short term one...
when it comes to where to put stuff,what goes where, remembering what
exactly I have to do and how to do it...my memory is very poor in those
areas... maybe a good thing to do is not be afraid to ask,even if it's
100 times... or maybe,to some extent, just doing something, even
poorly,is better then not doing anything...
-"Alvintchase"
-"Alvintchase"
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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24 Aug 2005 05:53:15 AM |
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On 23 Aug 2005 12:21:18 -0700, "AlvinTChase" <relayer211@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Thanks... Well, it's hard to give examples... I have a very
abstract, associative way of thinking... I think a lot about
psychological issues,memories,philosophiocal issues,and other stuff...
Maybe a little too self-absorbed. I tend to be that way. I still take
inventory jobs some week-ends as a way of spending time with my father.
This is reading/hearing/writing 4 - 12 digit alpha-numeric sequences. And
I still tend to drift off thinking about completely irrelevant subjects
while I'm doing it.
I guess I just lucked out though since it hasn't ever caused a problem. A
little OCD is a useful thing for inventories. Last year I was in Ft. Wayne
doing a job at a place that has a $1.75 million inventory. At the end,
there is a report showing variances between what they had in inventory and
what has been counted as on-hand. One little bearing showed 2 when they
only thought they had one. I checked the bin and there was only one. But,
as luck would have it, I recognized the number and realized that I had
counted one somewhere else. I went and looked and there it was, in the
wrong place numerically. That actually scares me sometimes.
If you want to get me riled up, you'll ask why they don't have locations...
Arghghghggh!!! They do... location A is most of the first floor... That's
why those things happen. Some guy returns a part to a bin with the tried
and true method of just tossing it anywhere it seems to fit. Both parts
showed in location A, but they were at least 100 feet apart. Grumble...
Why some people can't get sensible and use locations with bin and shelf is
beyond me. What happens because of the way they have it, is that they
can't find a part they know they have in the inventory, so... they order
another one. All too often we'll find 3, 4, 5 parts all in different
locations physically, but showing in the same location on the computer.
They can't find any of them, so they order another one.
I bet German parts warehouses aren't run like that.
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OVERWORK, n. A dangerous disorder affecting high public functionaries who
want to go fishing.
- Ambrose Bierce
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| User: "AlvinTChase" |
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24 Aug 2005 11:49:03 AM |
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CyberDroog wrote:
On 23 Aug 2005 12:21:18 -0700, "AlvinTChase" <relayer211@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Thanks... Well, it's hard to give examples... I have a very
abstract, associative way of thinking... I think a lot about
psychological issues,memories,philosophiocal issues,and other stuff...
Maybe a little too self-absorbed. I tend to be that way.
yes, definatly... I sometimes worry that people(On ASD and
elsewhere) will think that I don't care about them,that I'm not
interested in them, but it's not that, I really do care about
people(certain people more then others,but that's the case with
everyone,I guess)... It's just that I have a really hard time getting
out of my own world,my own thoughts,feelings,preoccupations etc...
-"Alvintchase"
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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24 Aug 2005 02:18:00 PM |
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On 24 Aug 2005 09:49:03 -0700, "AlvinTChase" <relayer211@hotmail.com>
wrote:
yes, definatly... I sometimes worry that people(On ASD and
elsewhere) will think that I don't care about them,that I'm not
interested in them, but it's not that, I really do care about
people(certain people more then others,but that's the case with
everyone,I guess)... It's just that I have a really hard time getting
out of my own world,my own thoughts,feelings,preoccupations etc...
I was going to say I'm in the same boat. But obviously not. I'm in
another boat floating on the same ocean though...
Here, I'll shoot up a flare and you can tell me if you see it. <boom>
Oops.. damn... ummm, does anybody know how to quickly fix a big hole in the
bottom of a boat?
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You don't have to buy from anyone. You don't have to work at any
particular job. You don't have to participate in any given relationship.
You can choose.
- Harry Browne
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| User: "HanginIn" |
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24 Aug 2005 02:37:01 PM |
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I think in that quotation it should say "to starve" after "choose"
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"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
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On 24 Aug 2005 09:49:03 -0700, "AlvinTChase" <relayer211@hotmail.com>
wrote:
yes, definatly... I sometimes worry that people(On ASD and
elsewhere) will think that I don't care about them,that I'm not
interested in them, but it's not that, I really do care about
people(certain people more then others,but that's the case with
everyone,I guess)... It's just that I have a really hard time getting
out of my own world,my own thoughts,feelings,preoccupations etc...
I was going to say I'm in the same boat. But obviously not. I'm in
another boat floating on the same ocean though...
Here, I'll shoot up a flare and you can tell me if you see it. <boom>
Oops.. damn... ummm, does anybody know how to quickly fix a big hole in
the
bottom of a boat?
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You don't have to buy from anyone. You don't have to work at any
particular job. You don't have to participate in any given relationship.
You can choose.
- Harry Browne
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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24 Aug 2005 06:56:28 PM |
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On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 19:37:01 GMT, "HanginIn"
<scott.prolific.hagen.prolific@earth.prolific.link.net> wrote:
"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
news:pphpg1tifleil6lbnltbegu1pn93ek6uh8@news.easynews.com...
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You don't have to buy from anyone. You don't have to work at any
particular job. You don't have to participate in any given relationship.
You can choose.
- Harry Browne
I think in that quotation it should say "to starve" after "choose"
Do you believe that having choices necessarily leads to starvation? Well,
that's your choice... ;)
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Economic independence is the foundation of the only sort of freedom worth a
damn.
- H.L. Mencken
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| User: "HanginIn" |
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23 Aug 2005 05:47:35 PM |
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You're so conscientious in your thinking and posting about this, I'm pretty
sure you will be just fine.
Simply do your job mindfully and attentively. Don't be drifting off into
things philosophical or abstract, especially in conversation with others.
Don't worry about your limitations. You can do that when you get home.
Accept criticism gracefully, incorporate it into your work habits.
Congrats again on getting the new job. I admire you and wish you the very
best.
scott
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"AlvinTChase" <relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I had my first day of work today... honestly,I'm not sure how long
I'll last... people tell me that I'm smart, but when it comes to
concrete,details oriented thinking, and my short term memory,I'm pretty
far behind other people,I think... However,I guess the best attitude
for me to have is to just try my best, and try to stay calm and
relaxed. the more anxious I am, the worse I function... I guess if I
get fired, I'll still be able to know that I tried hard, and that I
didn't quit... What else can you do, but try?
-"Alvintchase"
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| User: "jill" |
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23 Aug 2005 01:43:07 PM |
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don't quit, hang in there thats the spirit, your right then whatever
happens you won't have let yourself down, its not unusual for things
to go wrong at first!!! GO ! ALVIN! good luck, jill
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| User: "%" |
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23 Aug 2005 02:07:32 PM |
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"jill" <janeohara50@msn.com> wrote in message
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don't quit, hang in there thats the spirit, your right then whatever
happens you won't have let yourself down, its not unusual for things
to go wrong at first!!! GO ! ALVIN! good luck, jill
if i was him i'd flirt with all the females at work ,
then they'd all love me and help me
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| User: "AlvinTChase" |
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23 Aug 2005 01:49:30 PM |
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jill wrote:
don't quit, hang in there thats the spirit, your right then whatever
happens you won't have let yourself down, its not unusual for things
to go wrong at first!!! GO ! ALVIN! good luck, jill
Thanks Jill... I agree. At first I thought I might not make it
through the day, but then after I thought about it for a bit,I realized
that I might as well hang in there, and try my best... If I get
fired,at least I'll know I did what I could... And I have to remeber
that a lot of people have rough first days. At least I suppose they
do... My first few weeks at my last long term job were a disaster...
maybe if I can get through this period, things will get better... or
who knows, maybe they'll make my job easier,and give me less to do. I
doubt it, but you never know...
-"Alvintchase"
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| User: "Janithor" |
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23 Aug 2005 02:24:36 PM |
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x-no-archive: yes
AlvinTChase wrote:
I had my first day of work today... honestly,I'm not sure how long
I'll last... people tell me that I'm smart, but when it comes to
concrete,details oriented thinking, and my short term memory,I'm pretty
far behind other people,I think... However,I guess the best attitude
for me to have is to just try my best, and try to stay calm and
relaxed. the more anxious I am, the worse I function... I guess if I
get fired, I'll still be able to know that I tried hard, and that I
didn't quit... What else can you do, but try?
-"Alvintchase"
What do you do well? What are your relative strengths? e.g. I'm very
bad at multitasking. I get frustated easily, and I'm absent minded. I
would make a lousy cook. I worked in a kitchen for a short time once, a
Mexican restaurant. We did a lot of nachos, and I kept burning them
because I kept forgetting to check them and take them out in time. I'm
not stupid, I'm just not good at this sort of task. I'm much better at
linear kind of tasks where I can be left alone, e.g. cleaning a building
at night. First I empty trash, then I dust/wipe, then I vacuum. No
interruptions, no people to worry about.
I can sell my services, but I'm not a salesman. It's a narrow thing I
can sell. I would be horrible as a greeter, or one of those people who
pass out samples of food in Costco. I'm not friendly and open. But, I
can still sell my services because it's different than those types of sales.
Do you do better at the telephone stuff?
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23 Aug 2005 02:36:59 PM |
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I'm not friendly and open.
you like to think you're not
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| User: "Janithor" |
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23 Aug 2005 02:57:14 PM |
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% wrote:
I'm not friendly and open.
you like to think you're not
You haven't met me in person.
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| User: "%" |
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23 Aug 2005 03:02:46 PM |
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"Janithor" <JanithorSPAMBEGONE@comcast.net> wrote in message
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% wrote:
I'm not friendly and open.
you like to think you're not
You haven't met me in person.
i never said i have
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| User: "AlvinTChase" |
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23 Aug 2005 02:37:08 PM |
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Janithor wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
AlvinTChase wrote:
I had my first day of work today... honestly,I'm not sure how long
I'll last... people tell me that I'm smart, but when it comes to
concrete,details oriented thinking, and my short term memory,I'm pretty
far behind other people,I think... However,I guess the best attitude
for me to have is to just try my best, and try to stay calm and
relaxed. the more anxious I am, the worse I function... I guess if I
get fired, I'll still be able to know that I tried hard, and that I
didn't quit... What else can you do, but try?
-"Alvintchase"
What do you do well? What are your relative strengths? e.g. I'm very
bad at multitasking. I get frustated easily, and I'm absent minded. I
would make a lousy cook. I worked in a kitchen for a short time once, a
Mexican restaurant. We did a lot of nachos, and I kept burning them
because I kept forgetting to check them and take them out in time. I'm
not stupid, I'm just not good at this sort of task. I'm much better at
linear kind of tasks where I can be left alone, e.g. cleaning a building
at night. First I empty trash, then I dust/wipe, then I vacuum. No
interruptions, no people to worry about.
I can sell my services, but I'm not a salesman. It's a narrow thing I
can sell. I would be horrible as a greeter, or one of those people who
pass out samples of food in Costco. I'm not friendly and open. But, I
can still sell my services because it's different than those types of sales.
Do you do better at the telephone stuff?
I think I'm smart too. Many people have told me that I'm smart...
but only in certain areas... I guess everyone has their strengths and
weaknessess... I guess the best thing to do is try and improve your
strengths, and at least minimize(even if only slightly) your
weaknessess... people tell me I have a nice voice,paticularly my phone
voice. So, a job such as doing telephone surveys is probably what suits
me the best. I'd love to be an operator, but I've heard that you have
to work fast, and I'm also not good at multi tasking and high stress
enviorments... I get overwhelmed easily when there is a lot of
stimulation, or I have to work fast... yeah, I think telephone surveys
is what suits me the best, even though I had mixed feelings about the
job, overall.. In a way it's like the internet, you can meet your
simultaneous desires for revelation and concealment...
-"Alvintchase"
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| User: "AlvinTChase" |
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23 Aug 2005 02:46:18 PM |
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AlvinTChase wrote:
people tell me I have a nice voice,paticularly my phone
voice.
speaking of voices... it's interesting that people have
different voices... I mean, people can sometimes change their voice, if
they want to, and I think sometimes it just happens
naturally...sometimes your voice changes depending on what mood your
in, how confident you feel etc...
-"Alvintchase"
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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24 Aug 2005 06:14:12 AM |
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On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 19:24:36 GMT, Janithor <JanithorSPAMBEGONE@comcast.net>
wrote:
What do you do well? What are your relative strengths? e.g. I'm very
bad at multitasking. I get frustated easily, and I'm absent minded. I
would make a lousy cook. I worked in a kitchen for a short time once, a
Mexican restaurant. We did a lot of nachos, and I kept burning them
because I kept forgetting to check them and take them out in time. I'm
not stupid, I'm just not good at this sort of task. I'm much better at
linear kind of tasks where I can be left alone, e.g. cleaning a building
at night. First I empty trash, then I dust/wipe, then I vacuum. No
interruptions, no people to worry about.
I tend to be the same way. Linear and orderly. Though it really irked me
when one of my old bosses wrote on my evaluation form that I was "Still a
single task individual."
This was in an IT shop. What he failed to mention is that he had a habit
of breathlessly insisting that I drop whatever I'm doing and handle some
earth-shattering problem (which he often caused...). Then he'd *****
because the task he pulled me off of wasn't done. His definition of
multi-tasking was "Simultaneously performing two tasks, in different
locations, when both tasks require my immediate presence."
That was the guy that scared the crap out of every woman in the place, and
occasionally followed women home. Ignorant creep. He even went as far as to
tell me not to talk to women who he especially hated (I.e. women
he was hot for, but who wouldn't give him the time of day.) He told me to
no longer even help one woman with her computer. That seemed curious. But
after careful observation, it became clear that she, and she alone, was
consistently having undiagnosible problems. He was taking her system
off-line intentionally in order to force her to call him over to help.
I reported it, but the guy was the only one who knew the whole system
(AS/400). There was no way the management would ever do anything about it.
The women put up with it because they were worried about their jobs. I
just said "Adios" one day and haven't worked in a corporate setting since
(other than consulting jobs.)
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HARBOR, n. A place where ships taking shelter from storms are exposed to
the fury of the customs.
- Ambrose Bierce
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