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Topic: Sociology > Depression
User: "AndyA"
Date: 25 Sep 2003 02:29:42 AM
Object: Beware!! - messages 157kb and have Microsoft subject
I'm pretty sure that's one of the new viruses that came out recently
pretending to be a microsoft patch.
Microsoft doesn't send patches out by e-mail or usenet usegroups.
If it's the same one that I see a few messages below mine, you can read
about it on Zdnet News
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-5078696.html
More detailed info about Swen, and removal tools from Symantec (norton
anti-virus)
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.swen.a@mm.removal.tool.html
Give that link to anybody who thinks they have it, or might have it.
I know this has already been discussed in some newsgroups, but there may be
some newbies or people who didn't catch the info about it before. And I've
noticed that it's been posted in several newsgroups, looks like within the
last 12 hours.
--
Andy Alkaline
http://www.mentaldimensions.com/depression.shtml
My Depression Humor page
.

User: "Doug Laidlaw"

Title: Re: Beware!! - messages 157kb and have Microsoft subject 25 Sep 2003 03:09:45 AM
AndyA wrote:

I'm pretty sure that's one of the new viruses that came out recently
pretending to be a microsoft patch.
Microsoft doesn't send patches out by e-mail or usenet usegroups.

If it's the same one that I see a few messages below mine, you can read
about it on Zdnet News
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-5078696.html

More detailed info about Swen, and removal tools from Symantec (norton
anti-virus)

http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.swen.a@mm.removal.tool.html

Give that link to anybody who thinks they have it, or might have it.

I know this has already been discussed in some newsgroups, but there may
be some newbies or people who didn't catch the info about it before. And
I've noticed that it's been posted in several newsgroups, looks like
within the last 12 hours.

--
Andy Alkaline
http://www.mentaldimensions.com/depression.shtml
My Depression Humor page

It certainly is a virus. I am not on Microsoft's mailing list, and I am
getting literally thousands of them. By now, your anti-virus signature
file should be able to cope with it. If you haven't downloaded new
signatures yet, do it NOW.
Doug.
--
Registered Linux User No. 277548.
They say lightning never strikes twice in the same place. My typing is
about as accurate. Apologies for any typos that slip in. - Doug.
.

User: "Dan Hall"

Title: Re: Beware!! - messages 157kb and have Microsoft subject 27 Sep 2003 10:33:04 AM
I'm not sure where I first saw this, so excuse me if it was here and it's
old news, but I've been using a program called 'Mailwasher" and it has
helped me get rid of some of the trash messages.-Dan Re: www.mailwasher.net
"AndyA" <andy103301@nospam.mentaldimensions.com> wrote in message
news:GPwcb.10129$ai7.1112@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...

I'm pretty sure that's one of the new viruses that came out recently
pretending to be a microsoft patch.
Microsoft doesn't send patches out by e-mail or usenet usegroups.

If it's the same one that I see a few messages below mine, you can read
about it on Zdnet News
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-5078696.html

More detailed info about Swen, and removal tools from Symantec (norton
anti-virus)

http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.swen.a@mm.removal.tool.html

Give that link to anybody who thinks they have it, or might have it.

I know this has already been discussed in some newsgroups, but there may

be

some newbies or people who didn't catch the info about it before. And I've
noticed that it's been posted in several newsgroups, looks like within the
last 12 hours.

--
Andy Alkaline
http://www.mentaldimensions.com/depression.shtml
My Depression Humor page


.
User: "AndyA"

Title: Re: Beware!! - messages 157kb and have Microsoft subject 27 Sep 2003 01:13:38 PM
Dan, that's good advice.
To: Everybody - There are programs available that will allow a person to
"peek" at their incoming mail without actually downloading it onto their
computer. These programs will display message headers, which contain the
sender name, subject, date, etc.
To clarify a little, (I once was mystified at how e-mail works myself, and I
know the following information is already know by many people, in that case,
read something more interesing. :) )when a
message is sent to you, it leave the sender's computer immediately, and
usually goes almost immediately to your mailbox on your ISP's server. The
messages then
accumulate until you've logged on and downloaded them. At this point, the
messages are removed from your ISP's mail server.
The programs used to "peek" at your mail, will log into your mail server
after you give it your user name and password (the same way your regular
e-mail program logs in), and after it logs in, it's designed only to read
what's in your mail account on the mail server, and doesn't actually
download the messages to your computer. Many times, you can see based on
subject or sender, and size, if it's spam or not. You can then tag or select
messages to delete from the mail server. After you are done, you then use
your regular mail program to download the messages.
One of the key advantages to this: If you were to get 20 virus infected
e-mails, each with a 100Kilobyte attachment, and if you were on dial-up, you
would be downloading 2,000,000 bytes, and would take about 10-20 minutes to
download all your e-mail. When you "peek" at them on the mail server, you
are only downloading the message headers, which are roughly 200 bytes. And
an average e-mail, say... a paragraph written by a family member or friend,
should only be about 1000 - 3000 bytes. So a long letter would be around
5000 - 20,000 bytes. (5K - 20K). A 20K message would take about 3 seconds to
download the whole message, that includes the message header, and the body.
The other key advantage of using this "peek" feature is that it prevents a
virus infected e-mail from ever reaching your computer. It's not guaranteed
of course, because you may not recognize a virus infected e-mail simply by
viewing the header, but you would probably catch the majority of them. Plus,
once it's downloaded, a person could accidentally open it before deleting
it, or more likely, it could be a brand new virus, and your anti-virus
software won't be able to recognize it. Or if you haven't updated your
anti-virus definition files recently, your anti-virus software won't
recognize it. You usually don't need to upgrade your anti-virus *program*,
only the *definition* or *data* files it uses to recognize a virus when it
scans your e-mail and files.
I'm not too familiar with mail washer though, but I've heard good things
about it. I already have "peek" program that I've been using for 3 years
now. But I would have to agree with Dan, that if you're having problems with
a lot of junk e-mail or virus infected e-mails, that mail washer would be a
good one to try.
--
Andy Alkaline
http://www.mentaldimensions.com/depression.shtml
My Depression Humor page
"Dan Hall" <drhall@dmci.net> wrote in message
news:vnbbdnoas2u560@corp.supernews.com...

I'm not sure where I first saw this, so excuse me if it was here and it's
old news, but I've been using a program called 'Mailwasher" and it has
helped me get rid of some of the trash messages.-Dan Re:

www.mailwasher.net


"AndyA" <andy103301@nospam.mentaldimensions.com> wrote in message
news:GPwcb.10129$ai7.1112@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...

I'm pretty sure that's one of the new viruses that came out recently
pretending to be a microsoft patch.
Microsoft doesn't send patches out by e-mail or usenet usegroups.

If it's the same one that I see a few messages below mine, you can read
about it on Zdnet News
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-5078696.html

More detailed info about Swen, and removal tools from Symantec (norton
anti-virus)


http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.swen.a@mm.removal.tool.html

Give that link to anybody who thinks they have it, or might have it.

I know this has already been discussed in some newsgroups, but there may

be

some newbies or people who didn't catch the info about it before. And

I've

noticed that it's been posted in several newsgroups, looks like within

the

last 12 hours.

--
Andy Alkaline
http://www.mentaldimensions.com/depression.shtml
My Depression Humor page




.
User: "Christina Peterson"

Title: Re: Beware!! - messages 157kb and have Microsoft subject 27 Sep 2003 02:30:39 PM
Outlook Express can be modified so that all you see is the header. That way
you can delete messages without having them open when you click on the
header to delete them.
Tina
"AndyA" <andy103301@nospam.mentaldimensions.com> wrote in message
news:mrkdb.27454$ai7.8826@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...

Dan, that's good advice.

To: Everybody - There are programs available that will allow a person to
"peek" at their incoming mail without actually downloading it onto their
computer. These programs will display message headers, which contain the
sender name, subject, date, etc.

To clarify a little, (I once was mystified at how e-mail works myself, and

I

know the following information is already know by many people, in that

case,

read something more interesing. :) )when a
message is sent to you, it leave the sender's computer immediately, and
usually goes almost immediately to your mailbox on your ISP's server. The
messages then
accumulate until you've logged on and downloaded them. At this point, the
messages are removed from your ISP's mail server.

The programs used to "peek" at your mail, will log into your mail server
after you give it your user name and password (the same way your regular
e-mail program logs in), and after it logs in, it's designed only to read
what's in your mail account on the mail server, and doesn't actually
download the messages to your computer. Many times, you can see based on
subject or sender, and size, if it's spam or not. You can then tag or

select

messages to delete from the mail server. After you are done, you then use
your regular mail program to download the messages.

One of the key advantages to this: If you were to get 20 virus infected
e-mails, each with a 100Kilobyte attachment, and if you were on dial-up,

you

would be downloading 2,000,000 bytes, and would take about 10-20 minutes

to

download all your e-mail. When you "peek" at them on the mail server, you
are only downloading the message headers, which are roughly 200 bytes. And
an average e-mail, say... a paragraph written by a family member or

friend,

should only be about 1000 - 3000 bytes. So a long letter would be around
5000 - 20,000 bytes. (5K - 20K). A 20K message would take about 3 seconds

to

download the whole message, that includes the message header, and the

body.


The other key advantage of using this "peek" feature is that it prevents a
virus infected e-mail from ever reaching your computer. It's not

guaranteed

of course, because you may not recognize a virus infected e-mail simply by
viewing the header, but you would probably catch the majority of them.

Plus,

once it's downloaded, a person could accidentally open it before deleting
it, or more likely, it could be a brand new virus, and your anti-virus
software won't be able to recognize it. Or if you haven't updated your
anti-virus definition files recently, your anti-virus software won't
recognize it. You usually don't need to upgrade your anti-virus *program*,
only the *definition* or *data* files it uses to recognize a virus when it
scans your e-mail and files.

I'm not too familiar with mail washer though, but I've heard good things
about it. I already have "peek" program that I've been using for 3 years
now. But I would have to agree with Dan, that if you're having problems

with

a lot of junk e-mail or virus infected e-mails, that mail washer would be

a

good one to try.

--
Andy Alkaline
http://www.mentaldimensions.com/depression.shtml
My Depression Humor page




"Dan Hall" <drhall@dmci.net> wrote in message
news:vnbbdnoas2u560@corp.supernews.com...

I'm not sure where I first saw this, so excuse me if it was here and

it's

old news, but I've been using a program called 'Mailwasher" and it has
helped me get rid of some of the trash messages.-Dan Re:

www.mailwasher.net


"AndyA" <andy103301@nospam.mentaldimensions.com> wrote in message
news:GPwcb.10129$ai7.1112@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...

I'm pretty sure that's one of the new viruses that came out recently
pretending to be a microsoft patch.
Microsoft doesn't send patches out by e-mail or usenet usegroups.

If it's the same one that I see a few messages below mine, you can

read

about it on Zdnet News
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-5078696.html

More detailed info about Swen, and removal tools from Symantec (norton
anti-virus)



http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.swen.a@mm.remova
l.tool.html

Give that link to anybody who thinks they have it, or might have it.

I know this has already been discussed in some newsgroups, but there

may

be

some newbies or people who didn't catch the info about it before. And

I've

noticed that it's been posted in several newsgroups, looks like within

the

last 12 hours.

--
Andy Alkaline
http://www.mentaldimensions.com/depression.shtml
My Depression Humor page







.
User: "AndyA"

Title: Re: Beware!! - messages 157kb and have Microsoft subject 27 Sep 2003 10:57:56 PM
Right you are... by going into layout, and unchecking the "preview pane."
Unfortunately, you've still downloaded the entire message.
You're right though, it's important to turn off the preview pane, since
nowadays viruses will infect your computer without actually opening an
e-mail attachment.
--
Andy Alkaline
http://www.mentaldimensions.com/depression.shtml
My Depression Humor page
"Christina Peterson" <tinapetrsn@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1064691038.530552@prawn...

Outlook Express can be modified so that all you see is the header. That

way

you can delete messages without having them open when you click on the
header to delete them.

Tina


"AndyA" <andy103301@nospam.mentaldimensions.com> wrote in message
news:mrkdb.27454$ai7.8826@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...

Dan, that's good advice.

To: Everybody - There are programs available that will allow a person to
"peek" at their incoming mail without actually downloading it onto their
computer. These programs will display message headers, which contain the
sender name, subject, date, etc.

To clarify a little, (I once was mystified at how e-mail works myself,

and

I

know the following information is already know by many people, in that

case,

read something more interesing. :) )when a
message is sent to you, it leave the sender's computer immediately, and
usually goes almost immediately to your mailbox on your ISP's server.

The

messages then
accumulate until you've logged on and downloaded them. At this point,

the

messages are removed from your ISP's mail server.

The programs used to "peek" at your mail, will log into your mail server
after you give it your user name and password (the same way your regular
e-mail program logs in), and after it logs in, it's designed only to

read

what's in your mail account on the mail server, and doesn't actually
download the messages to your computer. Many times, you can see based on
subject or sender, and size, if it's spam or not. You can then tag or

select

messages to delete from the mail server. After you are done, you then

use

your regular mail program to download the messages.

One of the key advantages to this: If you were to get 20 virus infected
e-mails, each with a 100Kilobyte attachment, and if you were on dial-up,

you

would be downloading 2,000,000 bytes, and would take about 10-20 minutes

to

download all your e-mail. When you "peek" at them on the mail server,

you

are only downloading the message headers, which are roughly 200 bytes.

And

an average e-mail, say... a paragraph written by a family member or

friend,

should only be about 1000 - 3000 bytes. So a long letter would be around
5000 - 20,000 bytes. (5K - 20K). A 20K message would take about 3

seconds

to

download the whole message, that includes the message header, and the

body.


The other key advantage of using this "peek" feature is that it prevents

a

virus infected e-mail from ever reaching your computer. It's not

guaranteed

of course, because you may not recognize a virus infected e-mail simply

by

viewing the header, but you would probably catch the majority of them.

Plus,

once it's downloaded, a person could accidentally open it before

deleting

it, or more likely, it could be a brand new virus, and your anti-virus
software won't be able to recognize it. Or if you haven't updated your
anti-virus definition files recently, your anti-virus software won't
recognize it. You usually don't need to upgrade your anti-virus

*program*,

only the *definition* or *data* files it uses to recognize a virus when

it

scans your e-mail and files.

I'm not too familiar with mail washer though, but I've heard good things
about it. I already have "peek" program that I've been using for 3 years
now. But I would have to agree with Dan, that if you're having problems

with

a lot of junk e-mail or virus infected e-mails, that mail washer would

be

a

good one to try.

--
Andy Alkaline
http://www.mentaldimensions.com/depression.shtml
My Depression Humor page




"Dan Hall" <drhall@dmci.net> wrote in message
news:vnbbdnoas2u560@corp.supernews.com...

I'm not sure where I first saw this, so excuse me if it was here and

it's

old news, but I've been using a program called 'Mailwasher" and it has
helped me get rid of some of the trash messages.-Dan Re:

www.mailwasher.net


"AndyA" <andy103301@nospam.mentaldimensions.com> wrote in message
news:GPwcb.10129$ai7.1112@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...

I'm pretty sure that's one of the new viruses that came out recently
pretending to be a microsoft patch.
Microsoft doesn't send patches out by e-mail or usenet usegroups.

If it's the same one that I see a few messages below mine, you can

read

about it on Zdnet News
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-5078696.html

More detailed info about Swen, and removal tools from Symantec

(norton

anti-virus)




http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.swen.a@mm.remova

l.tool.html

Give that link to anybody who thinks they have it, or might have it.

I know this has already been discussed in some newsgroups, but there

may

be

some newbies or people who didn't catch the info about it before.

And

I've

noticed that it's been posted in several newsgroups, looks like

within

the

last 12 hours.

--
Andy Alkaline
http://www.mentaldimensions.com/depression.shtml
My Depression Humor page









.

User: "Megan"

Title: Re: Beware!! - messages 157kb and have Microsoft subject 28 Sep 2003 08:13:24 AM
X-No-Archive: Yes
Hi Christina! Are you talking about preview pane? It is my
understanding from talking to folks in a virus NG that having preview
pane on is like opening an email and can thus open a virus if one
executes just by opening an email. I am 98% sure but I heard this
awhile ago so I might be wrong.
Can anybody verify that?
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:30:39 GMT, Christina Peterson wrote:

Outlook Express can be modified so that all you see is the header. That way
you can delete messages without having them open when you click on the
header to delete them.

Tina


"AndyA" <andy103301@nospam.mentaldimensions.com> wrote in message
news:mrkdb.27454$ai7.8826@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...

Dan, that's good advice.

To: Everybody - There are programs available that will allow a person to
"peek" at their incoming mail without actually downloading it onto their
computer. These programs will display message headers, which contain the
sender name, subject, date, etc.

To clarify a little, (I once was mystified at how e-mail works myself, and

I

know the following information is already know by many people, in that

case,

read something more interesing. :) )when a
message is sent to you, it leave the sender's computer immediately, and
usually goes almost immediately to your mailbox on your ISP's server. The
messages then
accumulate until you've logged on and downloaded them. At this point, the
messages are removed from your ISP's mail server.

The programs used to "peek" at your mail, will log into your mail server
after you give it your user name and password (the same way your regular
e-mail program logs in), and after it logs in, it's designed only to read
what's in your mail account on the mail server, and doesn't actually
download the messages to your computer. Many times, you can see based on
subject or sender, and size, if it's spam or not. You can then tag or

select

messages to delete from the mail server. After you are done, you then use
your regular mail program to download the messages.

One of the key advantages to this: If you were to get 20 virus infected
e-mails, each with a 100Kilobyte attachment, and if you were on dial-up,

you

would be downloading 2,000,000 bytes, and would take about 10-20 minutes

to

download all your e-mail. When you "peek" at them on the mail server, you
are only downloading the message headers, which are roughly 200 bytes. And
an average e-mail, say... a paragraph written by a family member or

friend,

should only be about 1000 - 3000 bytes. So a long letter would be around
5000 - 20,000 bytes. (5K - 20K). A 20K message would take about 3 seconds

to

download the whole message, that includes the message header, and the

body.


The other key advantage of using this "peek" feature is that it prevents a
virus infected e-mail from ever reaching your computer. It's not

guaranteed

of course, because you may not recognize a virus infected e-mail simply by
viewing the header, but you would probably catch the majority of them.

Plus,

once it's downloaded, a person could accidentally open it before deleting
it, or more likely, it could be a brand new virus, and your anti-virus
software won't be able to recognize it. Or if you haven't updated your
anti-virus definition files recently, your anti-virus software won't
recognize it. You usually don't need to upgrade your anti-virus *program*,
only the *definition* or *data* files it uses to recognize a virus when it
scans your e-mail and files.

I'm not too familiar with mail washer though, but I've heard good things
about it. I already have "peek" program that I've been using for 3 years
now. But I would have to agree with Dan, that if you're having problems

with

a lot of junk e-mail or virus infected e-mails, that mail washer would be

a

good one to try.

--
Andy Alkaline
http://www.mentaldimensions.com/depression.shtml
My Depression Humor page




"Dan Hall" <drhall@dmci.net> wrote in message
news:vnbbdnoas2u560@corp.supernews.com...

I'm not sure where I first saw this, so excuse me if it was here and

it's

old news, but I've been using a program called 'Mailwasher" and it has
helped me get rid of some of the trash messages.-Dan Re:

www.mailwasher.net


"AndyA" <andy103301@nospam.mentaldimensions.com> wrote in message
news:GPwcb.10129$ai7.1112@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...

I'm pretty sure that's one of the new viruses that came out recently
pretending to be a microsoft patch.
Microsoft doesn't send patches out by e-mail or usenet usegroups.

If it's the same one that I see a few messages below mine, you can

read

about it on Zdnet News
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-5078696.html

More detailed info about Swen, and removal tools from Symantec (norton
anti-virus)



http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.swen.a@mm.remova
l.tool.html

Give that link to anybody who thinks they have it, or might have it.

I know this has already been discussed in some newsgroups, but there

may

be

some newbies or people who didn't catch the info about it before. And

I've

noticed that it's been posted in several newsgroups, looks like within

the

last 12 hours.

--
Andy Alkaline
http://www.mentaldimensions.com/depression.shtml
My Depression Humor page









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User: "Christina Peterson"

Title: Re: Beware!! - messages 157kb and have Microsoft subject 28 Sep 2003 12:32:20 PM
Right. That is whatI'm talking about. When you use the preview pane the
e-mail is open. And viri that that don't require an attatchment to be open,
can infect you. I'm so bad at computer talk.
Tina
"Megan" <megan@asarian-host.net> wrote in message
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X-No-Archive: Yes

Hi Christina! Are you talking about preview pane? It is my
understanding from talking to folks in a virus NG that having preview
pane on is like opening an email and can thus open a virus if one
executes just by opening an email. I am 98% sure but I heard this
awhile ago so I might be wrong.

Can anybody verify that?


On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:30:39 GMT, Christina Peterson wrote:

Outlook Express can be modified so that all you see is the header. That

way

you can delete messages without having them open when you click on the
header to delete them.

Tina


"AndyA" <andy103301@nospam.mentaldimensions.com> wrote in message
news:mrkdb.27454$ai7.8826@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...

Dan, that's good advice.

To: Everybody - There are programs available that will allow a person

to

"peek" at their incoming mail without actually downloading it onto

their

computer. These programs will display message headers, which contain

the

sender name, subject, date, etc.

To clarify a little, (I once was mystified at how e-mail works myself,

and

I

know the following information is already know by many people, in that

case,

read something more interesing. :) )when a
message is sent to you, it leave the sender's computer immediately, and
usually goes almost immediately to your mailbox on your ISP's server.

The

messages then
accumulate until you've logged on and downloaded them. At this point,

the

messages are removed from your ISP's mail server.

The programs used to "peek" at your mail, will log into your mail

server

after you give it your user name and password (the same way your

regular

e-mail program logs in), and after it logs in, it's designed only to

read

what's in your mail account on the mail server, and doesn't actually
download the messages to your computer. Many times, you can see based

on

subject or sender, and size, if it's spam or not. You can then tag or

select

messages to delete from the mail server. After you are done, you then

use

your regular mail program to download the messages.

One of the key advantages to this: If you were to get 20 virus infected
e-mails, each with a 100Kilobyte attachment, and if you were on

dial-up,

you

would be downloading 2,000,000 bytes, and would take about 10-20

minutes

to

download all your e-mail. When you "peek" at them on the mail server,

you

are only downloading the message headers, which are roughly 200 bytes.

And

an average e-mail, say... a paragraph written by a family member or

friend,

should only be about 1000 - 3000 bytes. So a long letter would be

around

5000 - 20,000 bytes. (5K - 20K). A 20K message would take about 3

seconds

to

download the whole message, that includes the message header, and the

body.


The other key advantage of using this "peek" feature is that it

prevents a

virus infected e-mail from ever reaching your computer. It's not

guaranteed

of course, because you may not recognize a virus infected e-mail simply

by

viewing the header, but you would probably catch the majority of them.

Plus,

once it's downloaded, a person could accidentally open it before

deleting

it, or more likely, it could be a brand new virus, and your anti-virus
software won't be able to recognize it. Or if you haven't updated your
anti-virus definition files recently, your anti-virus software won't
recognize it. You usually don't need to upgrade your anti-virus

*program*,

only the *definition* or *data* files it uses to recognize a virus when

it

scans your e-mail and files.

I'm not too familiar with mail washer though, but I've heard good

things

about it. I already have "peek" program that I've been using for 3

years

now. But I would have to agree with Dan, that if you're having problems

with

a lot of junk e-mail or virus infected e-mails, that mail washer would

be

a

good one to try.

--
Andy Alkaline
http://www.mentaldimensions.com/depression.shtml
My Depression Humor page




"Dan Hall" <drhall@dmci.net> wrote in message
news:vnbbdnoas2u560@corp.supernews.com...

I'm not sure where I first saw this, so excuse me if it was here and

it's

old news, but I've been using a program called 'Mailwasher" and it

has

helped me get rid of some of the trash messages.-Dan Re:

www.mailwasher.net


"AndyA" <andy103301@nospam.mentaldimensions.com> wrote in message
news:GPwcb.10129$ai7.1112@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...

I'm pretty sure that's one of the new viruses that came out

recently

pretending to be a microsoft patch.
Microsoft doesn't send patches out by e-mail or usenet usegroups.

If it's the same one that I see a few messages below mine, you can

read

about it on Zdnet News
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-5078696.html

More detailed info about Swen, and removal tools from Symantec

(norton

anti-virus)




http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.swen.a@mm.remov

a

l.tool.html

Give that link to anybody who thinks they have it, or might have

it.


I know this has already been discussed in some newsgroups, but

there

may

be

some newbies or people who didn't catch the info about it before.

And

I've

noticed that it's been posted in several newsgroups, looks like

within

the

last 12 hours.

--
Andy Alkaline
http://www.mentaldimensions.com/depression.shtml
My Depression Humor page












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User: "Mozilla Ed"

Title: Re: Beware!! - messages 157kb and have Microsoft subject 02 Oct 2003 01:15:07 PM
X-No-Archive: Yes
Megan wrote:

X-No-Archive: Yes

Hi Christina! Are you talking about preview pane? It is my
understanding from talking to folks in a virus NG that having preview
pane on is like opening an email and can thus open a virus if one
executes just by opening an email. I am 98% sure but I heard this
awhile ago so I might be wrong.

Can anybody verify that?

yes, you're right.
.





User: "Rich"

Title: Re: Beware!! - messages 157kb and have Microsoft subject 25 Sep 2003 09:36:15 AM
Yea, I've gotten dozens of the emailed virus. Haven't opened any, so no
problem.
"AndyA" <andy103301@nospam.mentaldimensions.com> wrote in message
news:GPwcb.10129$ai7.1112@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...

I'm pretty sure that's one of the new viruses that came out recently
pretending to be a microsoft patch.
Microsoft doesn't send patches out by e-mail or usenet usegroups.

If it's the same one that I see a few messages below mine, you can read
about it on Zdnet News
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-5078696.html

More detailed info about Swen, and removal tools from Symantec (norton
anti-virus)

http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.swen.a@mm.removal.tool.html

Give that link to anybody who thinks they have it, or might have it.

I know this has already been discussed in some newsgroups, but there may

be

some newbies or people who didn't catch the info about it before. And I've
noticed that it's been posted in several newsgroups, looks like within the
last 12 hours.

--
Andy Alkaline
http://www.mentaldimensions.com/depression.shtml
My Depression Humor page


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