"used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
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i hate when it gets applied to me. the only symptom i have is
self-injury, none of the interpersonal problems. the consultant
i saw labeled me with it. he's the second one out of a long line
of docs over the past 9 years who's done so. now it's in my
record again.

i don't know why i care so much, but i do.

i'm SO with you, girl. i got labeled with that one too, and it's
unfortunately stuck in my records now. i had a therp label me with it,

and

then one of the hospital shrinks put it on my axis of whatevers in my
hospital chart...axis 2, i think. whatever it is, you probably know what

i

mean. anyway, it has always bothered me that it's there. it's almost

like

you get written off with that kind of label. therps don't even have to

try

very hard if you are BPD because you are hopeless anyway.

:/

so you're both nuts , who knew

slunky <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote:

_/ lisa in mass>

i hate when it gets applied to me.

i don't know why i care so much, but i do. <snip>

s:
You care so much because it's not you. The DSM is
misinterpreted a lot by doctors and the like. They
shouldn't be diagnosing that without meeting the required
criteria which is what, a least three or four of the
criteria. They need to classify self-injury under
something else or as it's own name rather than presenting
self-injury as a borderline trait.

yes, it's like Dx'ing ppl with fever as tubercular.

this guy needs to get out more and look around
and see that SI isn't identical with (so called) BPD.

that's it. because self-injury is of such importance, i guess he
had to choose bpd. there really isn't another option, though
that's an incorrect diagnosis.

"humble.life" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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lisa in mass. wrote:

i hate when it gets applied to me. the only symptom i
have is self-injury, none of the interpersonal problems.
the consultant i saw labeled me with it. he's the second
one out of a long line of docs over the past 9 years
who's done so. now it's in my record again.

i don't know why i care so much, but i do.

-lisa

because it means that none of your thinking is allowable,
the PD checklist is the most unthought-through range of
diagnosis's ever.

why inflict spiritual warfare like that? why don't they
know the psychology of normals and their ways of "if the
cap fits, use it".

I agree with Humble. If you resent it as much as I do and
I am not borderline it might be partly because the medical
professionals crappy attitude about it. The proverbial
"they" say it's a difficult disorder to treat, because it's
med resistant and only responds to thought reorganization
type therapies like DBT. Beyond that they don't have a lot
of positive things to say about it. Every mental health
professional I have met or read has said how *difficult*
<insert impossible> it is to treat and speak as if
borderlines are throwaway's that can't be helped much. The
medical proffessional's failure thus far saddles people
with an unfair label and that makes me angry. If self
injury is the only thing between you and that
diagnosis then A LOT of us would be considered borderline,
including me. Don't let them label you and wear their
***** just because someone says you have to. Or if you
are in fact borderline, then break the boundaries and show
them that you can and do and will get well. You've done a
hell of a job so far. Sorry for the diatribe. This really
infuriates me.

humble.life <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

lisa in mass. wrote:

i hate when it gets applied to me.

because it means that none of your thinking is allowable

And anything you do or say can be held against you.

checklist is the most unthought-through range of
diagnosis's ever.

Based on a dubious and untestable etiology also.

This ****s, lisa. Too bad you have to work with this
guy, when he is entertaining the possibility that you
are untreatable. I am infuriated esp. bc it's you and
bc ppl who are professionals should be trying to
understand your condition, how it came about etc.