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"lisa in mass." |
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02 Jun 2005 08:28:42 PM |
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breathe |
i have to remember to do that on occasion.
that, and unclamp my aching jaw...
-lisa
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02 Jun 2005 08:38:40 PM |
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On 3 Jun 2005 01:28:42 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
i have to remember to do that on occasion.
that, and unclamp my aching jaw...
-lisa
Your jaw does that, too? Mine's been driving me crazy. It's little
better since I dropped one of my meds, but still.... Do you know what
causes it? 'Cause I'd love any clues on how to stop it.
p
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| User: "wombn" |
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02 Jun 2005 10:49:25 PM |
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On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 18:38:40 -0700, ponette <ponette0000@yahoo.com>
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On 3 Jun 2005 01:28:42 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
i have to remember to do that on occasion.
that, and unclamp my aching jaw...
-lisa
Your jaw does that, too? Mine's been driving me crazy. It's little
better since I dropped one of my meds, but still.... Do you know what
causes it? 'Cause I'd love any clues on how to stop it.
oh one of the AD's my endo put me on just prior to the thyroid
diagnosis did that to me, too. headaches like you would not believe.
oh maybe you would.
I can't remember which one it was. It was an SSRI, that's all I can
remember. Celexa??
I hate my memory.
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| User: "ponette" |
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03 Jun 2005 10:13:25 AM |
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On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 20:49:25 -0700, wombn
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oh one of the AD's my endo put me on just prior to the thyroid
diagnosis did that to me, too. headaches like you would not believe.
oh maybe you would.
Yup, I got the headaches, too. It just never crossed my mind that a
med could be *causing* them...I kept thinking it was the anxiety
itself. I just kept taking pain relievers (tylenol with codeine) and
not mentioning anything. Then the jaw chimed in and I got suspicious.
I can't remember which one it was. It was an SSRI, that's all I can
remember. Celexa??
In my case, I think it's serotonin building up, so that makes sense.
I'm a lot better off the buspar, which I took on top of generic
Serzone, another AD that works on serotonin, and wellbutrin (well, all
are generics, but they are easier to spell this way). I think the two
serotonin drugs were working in tandem.
Being off of the buspar hasn't adversely affected my anxiety, so I've
been hopeful that that will be that. But yesterday I was very, very
depressed in the morning. Course, there were reasons to be and it may
have had nothing to do with the med.
I hate my memory.
I hate mine, too. {{{}}}}
Thanks for writing and sharing your experiences.
p
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02 Jun 2005 08:45:28 PM |
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ponette wrote...
On 3 Jun 2005 01:28:42 GMT, "lisa in mass."
<mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
i have to remember to do that on occasion.
that, and unclamp my aching jaw...
-lisa
Your jaw does that, too? Mine's been driving me crazy. It's
little better since I dropped one of my meds, but still....
Do you know what causes it? 'Cause I'd love any clues on
how to stop it.
p
mine's stress-related. i do it when my depression's bad and i'm
fighting urges for suicide and self-injury. before the
depression, i'd clench my teeth when i was on a very tight
deadline at work.
-lisa
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| User: "ponette" |
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02 Jun 2005 08:49:52 PM |
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On 3 Jun 2005 01:45:28 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
mine's stress-related. i do it when my depression's bad and i'm
fighting urges for suicide and self-injury. before the
depression, i'd clench my teeth when i was on a very tight
deadline at work.
I don't know if mine is stress or the meds. The problem popped up a
few months ago and has been much more aggravating and painful than it
should be by the sounds of it. Going OFF buspar seems to have helped
some, so it might be a side effect. But I'd been on that stuff for
years.
In fact, the weird thing is nothing had changed: my meds, my
situation. Dunno what to think.
Thanks for your comments.
p
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| User: "Teilhard Knight" |
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03 Jun 2005 10:18:06 PM |
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"ponette" <ponette0000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On 3 Jun 2005 01:45:28 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
mine's stress-related. i do it when my depression's bad and i'm
fighting urges for suicide and self-injury. before the
depression, i'd clench my teeth when i was on a very tight
deadline at work.
I don't know if mine is stress or the meds. The problem popped up a
few months ago and has been much more aggravating and painful than it
should be by the sounds of it. Going OFF buspar seems to have helped
some, so it might be a side effect. But I'd been on that stuff for
years.
In fact, the weird thing is nothing had changed: my meds, my
situation. Dunno what to think.
Thanks for your comments.
You're getting old. ;o)
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Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial
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| User: "ponette" |
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03 Jun 2005 10:48:32 PM |
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On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 22:18:06 -0500, "Teilhard Knight"
<teilhk@privacy.net> wrote:
"ponette" <ponette0000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On 3 Jun 2005 01:45:28 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
mine's stress-related. i do it when my depression's bad and i'm
fighting urges for suicide and self-injury. before the
depression, i'd clench my teeth when i was on a very tight
deadline at work.
I don't know if mine is stress or the meds. The problem popped up a
few months ago and has been much more aggravating and painful than it
should be by the sounds of it. Going OFF buspar seems to have helped
some, so it might be a side effect. But I'd been on that stuff for
years.
In fact, the weird thing is nothing had changed: my meds, my
situation. Dunno what to think.
Thanks for your comments.
You're getting old. ;o)
Well, I'm gettin' older every day, but I doubt that's it.
p
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| User: "Teilhard Knight" |
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04 Jun 2005 08:12:35 AM |
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"ponette" <ponette0000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 22:18:06 -0500, "Teilhard Knight"
<teilhk@privacy.net> wrote:
"ponette" <ponette0000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On 3 Jun 2005 01:45:28 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
mine's stress-related. i do it when my depression's bad and i'm
fighting urges for suicide and self-injury. before the
depression, i'd clench my teeth when i was on a very tight
deadline at work.
I don't know if mine is stress or the meds. The problem popped up a
few months ago and has been much more aggravating and painful than it
should be by the sounds of it. Going OFF buspar seems to have helped
some, so it might be a side effect. But I'd been on that stuff for
years.
In fact, the weird thing is nothing had changed: my meds, my
situation. Dunno what to think.
Thanks for your comments.
You're getting old. ;o)
Well, I'm gettin' older every day, but I doubt that's it.
Just a bad joke. :o)
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Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial
Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox
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| User: "ponette" |
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04 Jun 2005 09:58:18 AM |
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On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 08:12:35 -0500, "Teilhard Knight"
<teilhk@privacy.net> wrote:
You're getting old. ;o)
Well, I'm gettin' older every day, but I doubt that's it.
Just a bad joke. :o)
My birthday is in three weeks. Please feel free to send presents. :)
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| User: "Teilhard Knight" |
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05 Jun 2005 08:24:13 AM |
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"ponette" <ponette0000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 08:12:35 -0500, "Teilhard Knight"
<teilhk@privacy.net> wrote:
You're getting old. ;o)
Well, I'm gettin' older every day, but I doubt that's it.
Just a bad joke. :o)
My birthday is in three weeks. Please feel free to send presents. :)
I told you, you are getting old. ;o)
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| User: "ponette" |
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05 Jun 2005 11:52:03 AM |
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On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 08:24:13 -0500, "Teilhard Knight"
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"ponette" <ponette0000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 08:12:35 -0500, "Teilhard Knight"
<teilhk@privacy.net> wrote:
You're getting old. ;o)
Well, I'm gettin' older every day, but I doubt that's it.
Just a bad joke. :o)
My birthday is in three weeks. Please feel free to send presents. :)
I told you, you are getting old. ;o)
Bath salts and a heating pad would be appropriate. Don't forget the
birthday card. ;)
p
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| User: "Teilhard Knight" |
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05 Jun 2005 04:51:06 PM |
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"ponette" <ponette0000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 08:24:13 -0500, "Teilhard Knight"
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"ponette" <ponette0000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 08:12:35 -0500, "Teilhard Knight"
<teilhk@privacy.net> wrote:
You're getting old. ;o)
Well, I'm gettin' older every day, but I doubt that's it.
Just a bad joke. :o)
My birthday is in three weeks. Please feel free to send presents. :)
I told you, you are getting old. ;o)
Bath salts and a heating pad would be appropriate. Don't forget the
birthday card. ;)
What's for dinner?
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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04 Jun 2005 02:47:11 AM |
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In message <l392a1l224mnr52q7nghsm10j0khbdl8b9@4ax.com>, ponette
<ponette0000@yahoo.com> writes
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 22:18:06 -0500, "Teilhard Knight"
<teilhk@privacy.net> wrote:
"ponette" <ponette0000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On 3 Jun 2005 01:45:28 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
mine's stress-related. i do it when my depression's bad and i'm
fighting urges for suicide and self-injury. before the
depression, i'd clench my teeth when i was on a very tight
deadline at work.
I don't know if mine is stress or the meds. The problem popped up a
few months ago and has been much more aggravating and painful than it
should be by the sounds of it. Going OFF buspar seems to have helped
some, so it might be a side effect. But I'd been on that stuff for
years.
In fact, the weird thing is nothing had changed: my meds, my
situation. Dunno what to think.
Thanks for your comments.
You're getting old. ;o)
Well, I'm gettin' older every day, but I doubt that's it.
I'm getting old enough to wonder what's age, what's the illness, and
what's the medication. Of course, it could just be my underpants.
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| User: "wombn" |
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02 Jun 2005 10:47:41 PM |
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On 3 Jun 2005 01:28:42 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
i have to remember to do that on occasion.
that, and unclamp my aching jaw...
Dr. Dean Edell (big talk radio doc on the west coast) said the best
treatment for TMJ was shaking your chin with your hand several times a
day. Which means you have to relax it enough for it to swing freely.
Hard to do! It doesn't take big shaking of course, it's not like our
arms or hands. Just being able to wiggle it with your hand and NOT
your jaw muscles is the goal.
It sure helped me.
Thor still can't figure out how to relax his jaw enough to do this.
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| User: "sad-eyed lady sad-eyed" |
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02 Jun 2005 11:10:37 PM |
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"wombn" <wombnhearmeroar@comcast.net> wrote in message
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On 3 Jun 2005 01:28:42 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
i have to remember to do that on occasion.
that, and unclamp my aching jaw...
Dr. Dean Edell (big talk radio doc on the west coast) said the best
treatment for TMJ was shaking your chin with your hand several times a
day. Which means you have to relax it enough for it to swing freely.
Hard to do! It doesn't take big shaking of course, it's not like our
arms or hands. Just being able to wiggle it with your hand and NOT
your jaw muscles is the goal.
It sure helped me.
Thor still can't figure out how to relax his jaw enough to do this.
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If laughter is the best medicine,
then kittens should be covered by our health insurance. :-)
I heard him talk about that as well. Glad it worked for you. Didn't help
much for me--in fact, my dentist says I'm grinding my teeth down harder than
normal and suggested some kind of "appliance". Yah sure, as if it isn't
hard enough to sleep !!
lady
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02 Jun 2005 11:50:51 PM |
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On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 21:10:37 -0700, "sad-eyed lady" <sad-eyed
lady@thelowlands.com> wrote:
I heard him talk about that as well. Glad it worked for you. Didn't help
much for me--in fact, my dentist says I'm grinding my teeth down harder than
normal and suggested some kind of "appliance".
oh dang! Well, people have said those mouth guards aren't all that
bad. Can save your teeth! But I don't imagine it's a breeze to adjust
to.
Yah sure, as if it isn't
hard enough to sleep !!
true.
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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03 Jun 2005 12:03:29 AM |
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wombn wrote...
On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 21:10:37 -0700, "sad-eyed lady"
<sad-eyed lady@thelowlands.com> wrote:
I heard him talk about that as well. Glad it worked for
you. Didn't help much for me--in fact, my dentist says I'm
grinding my teeth down harder than normal and suggested
some kind of "appliance".
oh dang! Well, people have said those mouth guards aren't
all that bad. Can save your teeth! But I don't imagine
it's a breeze to adjust to.
i had braces as a kid, complete with retainer, so i didn't think
it was bad at all; better than what i had with braces. they're
fairly thin, and conform well to the inside of your mouth.
-lisa
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| User: "wombn" |
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03 Jun 2005 03:13:02 AM |
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On 3 Jun 2005 05:03:29 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
wombn wrote...
On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 21:10:37 -0700, "sad-eyed lady"
<sad-eyed lady@thelowlands.com> wrote:
I heard him talk about that as well. Glad it worked for
you. Didn't help much for me--in fact, my dentist says I'm
grinding my teeth down harder than normal and suggested
some kind of "appliance".
oh dang! Well, people have said those mouth guards aren't
all that bad. Can save your teeth! But I don't imagine
it's a breeze to adjust to.
i had braces as a kid, complete with retainer, so i didn't think
me too! And I had my very first solo the day they were all removed.
OWWW
it was bad at all; better than what i had with braces. they're
fairly thin, and conform well to the inside of your mouth.
apparently, too thin!
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02 Jun 2005 11:30:26 PM |
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sad-eyed lady wrote...
"wombn" <wombnhearmeroar@comcast.net> wrote in message
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On 3 Jun 2005 01:28:42 GMT, "lisa in mass."
<mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
i have to remember to do that on occasion.
that, and unclamp my aching jaw...
Dr. Dean Edell (big talk radio doc on the west coast) said
the best treatment for TMJ was shaking your chin with your
hand several times a day. Which means you have to relax
it enough for it to swing freely. Hard to do! It doesn't
take big shaking of course, it's not like our arms or
hands. Just being able to wiggle it with your hand and
NOT your jaw muscles is the goal.
It sure helped me.
Thor still can't figure out how to relax his jaw enough to
do this.
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If laughter is the best medicine,
then kittens should be covered by our health insurance.
:-)
I heard him talk about that as well. Glad it worked for
you. Didn't help much for me--in fact, my dentist says I'm
grinding my teeth down harder than normal and suggested
some kind of "appliance". Yah sure, as if it isn't hard
enough to sleep !!
lady
i've had a couple of night guards. i chewed right through
them.
-lisa
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| User: "wombn" |
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02 Jun 2005 11:51:17 PM |
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On 3 Jun 2005 04:30:26 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
I heard him talk about that as well. Glad it worked for
you. Didn't help much for me--in fact, my dentist says I'm
grinding my teeth down harder than normal and suggested
some kind of "appliance". Yah sure, as if it isn't hard
enough to sleep !!
lady
i've had a couple of night guards. i chewed right through
them.
WOW
Are you part pit bull? :-)
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03 Jun 2005 12:01:29 AM |
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wombn wrote...
On 3 Jun 2005 04:30:26 GMT, "lisa in mass."
<mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
I heard him talk about that as well. Glad it worked for
you. Didn't help much for me--in fact, my dentist says
I'm grinding my teeth down harder than normal and
suggested some kind of "appliance". Yah sure, as if it
isn't hard enough to sleep !!
lady
i've had a couple of night guards. i chewed right through
them.
WOW
Are you part pit bull? :-)
i guess so. i don't think i grind my teeth in my sleep as
badly as i used to. i should probably try a night guard again
and see what happens. good ones are expensive, though, if they
only last me a month or two.
-lisa
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| User: "wombn" |
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03 Jun 2005 03:56:22 AM |
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On 3 Jun 2005 05:01:29 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
WOW
Are you part pit bull? :-)
i guess so. i don't think i grind my teeth in my sleep as
badly as i used to. i should probably try a night guard again
and see what happens. good ones are expensive, though, if they
only last me a month or two.
ouch. yeah, that would be expensive.
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02 Jun 2005 10:54:24 PM |
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wombn wrote...
On 3 Jun 2005 01:28:42 GMT, "lisa in mass."
<mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
i have to remember to do that on occasion.
that, and unclamp my aching jaw...
Dr. Dean Edell (big talk radio doc on the west coast) said
the best treatment for TMJ was shaking your chin with your
hand several times a day. Which means you have to relax it
enough for it to swing freely. Hard to do! It doesn't take
big shaking of course, it's not like our arms or hands.
Just being able to wiggle it with your hand and NOT your
jaw muscles is the goal.
It sure helped me.
Thor still can't figure out how to relax his jaw enough to
do this.
i can't do it (yet). the muscles are way too tight.
i used to have bad tmj problems with neck involvement, until i
saw a dentist specializing in tmj. at least my teeth fit
together now when i clamp down on them. he wouldn't be happy
to see the state of my jaw right now.
-lisa
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| User: "wombn" |
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02 Jun 2005 11:49:33 PM |
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On 3 Jun 2005 03:54:24 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
wombn wrote...
On 3 Jun 2005 01:28:42 GMT, "lisa in mass."
<mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
i have to remember to do that on occasion.
that, and unclamp my aching jaw...
Dr. Dean Edell (big talk radio doc on the west coast) said
the best treatment for TMJ was shaking your chin with your
hand several times a day. Which means you have to relax it
enough for it to swing freely. Hard to do! It doesn't take
big shaking of course, it's not like our arms or hands.
Just being able to wiggle it with your hand and NOT your
jaw muscles is the goal.
It sure helped me.
Thor still can't figure out how to relax his jaw enough to
do this.
i can't do it (yet). the muscles are way too tight.
i used to have bad tmj problems with neck involvement, until i
saw a dentist specializing in tmj. at least my teeth fit
together now when i clamp down on them. he wouldn't be happy
to see the state of my jaw right now.
nod. I first got TMJ after I had my wisdom teeth out (all 4 at once).
I don't know what they did to my jaw (IV). For a long time after
that, it would lock *open* if I put in anything bigger than the width
of a teaspoon. Freaky. Yawning was a problem for quite some time.
Years later, stress..... well you know about that.
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