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Topic: Sociology > Depression
User: "Teilhard Knight"
Date: 13 May 2006 12:33:04 AM
Object: Charles
The behaviour of my computer is very strange. It wouldn't boot into WinXP,
except in safe mode. I can boot Mandrake, and as a matter of fact, I am
posting from this OS. However I have had the computer to turn off by itself
in WinXP in safe mode and also loading Mandrake. I think my problem is more
similar to yours than I thought, except that actually the CPU doesn't
overheat, and the fan is working all right. I have double checked
temperatures in all the system. But by some reason, the Mother Board
registers turns itself off as if some essential part of the computer were
averheating. I think my problem is not software actually, except for the
fact that I installed SUSE in one partition and before the install I got a
warning that my RAID is a software RAID (when it is actually hardware),
that my two hard drives were in the RAID (when I actually do not have a
RAID configuration) and that if I installed all the data in the RAID would
be erased. Just after the installation everything was normal and I could
boot in all the OSs I have in the computer. But perhaps now I am paying for
it, What do you think?
--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial
Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox
.

User: "Charles"

Title: Re: Charles 13 May 2006 12:47:22 AM
On Sat, 13 May 2006 00:33:04 -0500, Teilhard Knight
<teilhk@crosswinds.net> wrote:

The behaviour of my computer is very strange. It wouldn't boot into WinXP,
except in safe mode. I can boot Mandrake, and as a matter of fact, I am
posting from this OS. However I have had the computer to turn off by itself
in WinXP in safe mode and also loading Mandrake. I think my problem is more
similar to yours than I thought, except that actually the CPU doesn't
overheat, and the fan is working all right. I have double checked
temperatures in all the system. But by some reason, the Mother Board
registers turns itself off as if some essential part of the computer were
averheating. I think my problem is not software actually, except for the
fact that I installed SUSE in one partition and before the install I got a
warning that my RAID is a software RAID (when it is actually hardware),
that my two hard drives were in the RAID (when I actually do not have a
RAID configuration) and that if I installed all the data in the RAID would
be erased. Just after the installation everything was normal and I could
boot in all the OSs I have in the computer. But perhaps now I am paying for
it, What do you think?

I'd get a spare HD, format it, do an install of windows and see what
happens. The problem seems different from mine if you can reliably
boot up other OS's, mine would sometimes crash during POST.
My fan worked okay, but it's contact to the CPU chip wasn't reliable.
after a few crashes windows got corrupted, sometimes things would
work, sometimes not.
I've never played with RAID or SUSE, I don't know anything about them.
.
User: "Teilhard Knight"

Title: Re: Charles 13 May 2006 01:15:49 AM
Charles wrote:

On Sat, 13 May 2006 00:33:04 -0500, Teilhard Knight
<teilhk@crosswinds.net> wrote:

The behaviour of my computer is very strange. It wouldn't boot into WinXP,
except in safe mode. I can boot Mandrake, and as a matter of fact, I am
posting from this OS. However I have had the computer to turn off by
itself in WinXP in safe mode and also loading Mandrake. I think my problem
is more similar to yours than I thought, except that actually the CPU
doesn't overheat, and the fan is working all right. I have double checked
temperatures in all the system. But by some reason, the Mother Board
registers turns itself off as if some essential part of the computer were
averheating. I think my problem is not software actually, except for the
fact that I installed SUSE in one partition and before the install I got a
warning that my RAID is a software RAID (when it is actually hardware),
that my two hard drives were in the RAID (when I actually do not have a
RAID configuration) and that if I installed all the data in the RAID would
be erased. Just after the installation everything was normal and I could
boot in all the OSs I have in the computer. But perhaps now I am paying
for it, What do you think?



I'd get a spare HD, format it, do an install of windows and see what
happens. The problem seems different from mine if you can reliably
boot up other OS's, mine would sometimes crash during POST.

My fan worked okay, but it's contact to the CPU chip wasn't reliable.

after a few crashes windows got corrupted, sometimes things would
work, sometimes not.

I've never played with RAID or SUSE, I don't know anything about them.

I do not follow you when you speak about the "contact" of your fan with the
CPU. I have the processor and a dissipator on top of it, and on top of the
dissipator I have the fan. I guess you had something similar. It very well
be the same kind of problem because I replaced the fan myself with another
which was only similar but not identical. But it's been about 4 months of
that. I am disconcerted about this state of affairs.
--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial
Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox
.
User: "Alan Harding"

Title: Re: Charles 13 May 2006 04:11:29 PM
In message <4clbsiF167o45U1@individual.net>, Teilhard Knight
<teilhk@crosswinds.net> writes

Charles wrote:

On Sat, 13 May 2006 00:33:04 -0500, Teilhard Knight
<teilhk@crosswinds.net> wrote:

The behaviour of my computer is very strange. It wouldn't boot into WinXP,
except in safe mode. I can boot Mandrake, and as a matter of fact, I am
posting from this OS. However I have had the computer to turn off by
itself in WinXP in safe mode and also loading Mandrake. I think my problem
is more similar to yours than I thought, except that actually the CPU
doesn't overheat, and the fan is working all right. I have double checked
temperatures in all the system. But by some reason, the Mother Board
registers turns itself off as if some essential part of the computer were
averheating. I think my problem is not software actually, except for the
fact that I installed SUSE in one partition and before the install I got a
warning that my RAID is a software RAID (when it is actually hardware),
that my two hard drives were in the RAID (when I actually do not have a
RAID configuration) and that if I installed all the data in the RAID would
be erased. Just after the installation everything was normal and I could
boot in all the OSs I have in the computer. But perhaps now I am paying
for it, What do you think?


I'd get a spare HD, format it, do an install of windows and see what
happens. The problem seems different from mine if you can reliably
boot up other OS's, mine would sometimes crash during POST.

My fan worked okay, but it's contact to the CPU chip wasn't reliable.

after a few crashes windows got corrupted, sometimes things would
work, sometimes not.

I've never played with RAID or SUSE, I don't know anything about them.


I do not follow you when you speak about the "contact" of your fan with the
CPU. I have the processor and a dissipator on top of it, and on top of the
dissipator I have the fan. I guess you had something similar. It very well
be the same kind of problem because I replaced the fan myself with another
which was only similar but not identical. But it's been about 4 months of
that. I am disconcerted about this state of affairs.

If LINUX boots cleanly and completely every time, it's not a hardware
problem.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
.
User: "Charles"

Title: Re: Charles 13 May 2006 06:33:49 PM
On Sat, 13 May 2006 22:11:29 +0100, Alan Harding
<Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:


If LINUX boots cleanly and completely every time, it's not a hardware
problem.

If you do enough times. An intermittent problem can be a fooler. I
would sometimes get a full day out of mine while it was acting poorly.
.
User: "Alan Harding"

Title: Re: Charles 14 May 2006 02:39:50 AM
In message <k4rc62ta6msq55s0hlq27h965522kahhdu@4ax.com>, Charles
<ckraft@SPAMTRAP.west.net> writes

On Sat, 13 May 2006 22:11:29 +0100, Alan Harding
<Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

If LINUX boots cleanly and completely every time, it's not a hardware
problem.


If you do enough times. An intermittent problem can be a fooler. I
would sometimes get a full day out of mine while it was acting poorly.

Yes, but it sounds like he's having the problem whenever he boots
Windows. I can think of a very unusual hardware problem which could do
that, but 99.9% of the time it has to be software, if I'm understanding
the symptoms correctly.
Anyway, to diagnose it's important to see if LINUX works where Windows
doesn't - and whether it ever fails in BIOS boot up.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
.



User: "Charles"

Title: Re: Charles 13 May 2006 01:20:41 AM
On Sat, 13 May 2006 01:15:49 -0500, Teilhard Knight
<teilhk@crosswinds.net> wrote:


I do not follow you when you speak about the "contact" of your fan with the
CPU. I have the processor and a dissipator on top of it, and on top of the
dissipator I have the fan. I guess you had something similar. It very well
be the same kind of problem because I replaced the fan myself with another
which was only similar but not identical. But it's been about 4 months of
that. I am disconcerted about this state of affairs.

what you call the dissipator must be in firm thermal contact with the
processor chip. The clamping mechanism that should have held mine
that way didn't work properly, the dissipator would lift from the
processor and then the processor would overheat. It happens very
rapidly, as I said sometimes it wouldn't make it through POST.
.
User: "Teilhard Knight"

Title: Re: Charles 13 May 2006 01:37:15 AM
Charles wrote:

On Sat, 13 May 2006 01:15:49 -0500, Teilhard Knight
<teilhk@crosswinds.net> wrote:


I do not follow you when you speak about the "contact" of your fan with
the CPU. I have the processor and a dissipator on top of it, and on top of
the dissipator I have the fan. I guess you had something similar. It very
well be the same kind of problem because I replaced the fan myself with
another which was only similar but not identical. But it's been about 4
months of that. I am disconcerted about this state of affairs.



what you call the dissipator must be in firm thermal contact with the
processor chip. The clamping mechanism that should have held mine
that way didn't work properly, the dissipator would lift from the
processor and then the processor would overheat. It happens very
rapidly, as I said sometimes it wouldn't make it through POST.

Oh, OK, I'm with you now. Actually, my new fan came with a dissipator, but
it was smaller than the one I had, so I left this last in position and only
changed the fan.
--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial
Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox
.





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