i started working for this company 4 months ago as a staff accountant. i had
about 8 months experience as a staff accountant in a previous position,
which was my first accounting position. so basically i'm still entry level.
this is a private company and they pay me a decent starting salary ($39,000)
which is good for my area. i catch on quickly and in several weeks i'm doing
many reconciliations, entries, etc. when i started they were really behind
and swamped... previous cfos and managers never even bothered to reconcile
the cash account. we have about a million - million and a half dollars in
our cash account and for the past year it was never reconciled completely
and there were variances of 2, 3, 4, 5 grand each month.
i'm given the opportunity to fix this and in the course of three months i
figured out all the problems and the accounts are now reconciled within 20
cents. it was hard work. they actually opened a new bank account and the
business office was depositing money in one bank account and listing it in
another and this went on and on for months. my "manager" had no idea how to
reconcile the account.
anyway, i'm doing more and more and now i'm compiling and entering the
payroll into the accounting system. the last pay period, my supervisor told
me i woudn't be compiling it because there was "too much new information"
that went into it. okay, cool. bonuses, deferred compensation, etc. but, i
still get to "enter it" into the accounting system. it's a huge entry and we
type it in... i asked my manager if these entries can be imported into MAS
90 and she said no, only exported... which i found strange because when i
worked with great plains we imported huge entries all the time.
anyhow... i'm putting the information into the system and they're giving out
tons of bonuses... over $350,000 in bonuses... mostly to the doctors who
work for us, the CFO ($35,000 bonus on a $150,000 salary), my manager
($5,000, been there 1.5 years) bonus and the accounts payable person who
works next to me ($2,000, been there six years). Then I get to my
information... and guess what? I get nothing. Absolutely nothing. There are
three people in our department and they got $5,000, 2,000, and I got
nothing. Even the human resources assistant who shares my office got $25.
I can't explain how humiliating and painful it is to be the one entering
this information into the accounting records, seeing $30,000 bonuses, $2,000
bonuses, $500 bonuses, and then having nothing for me. Why let me put this
pay period in the system at all? If they're not going to give me anything,
why not just hide it? How heartless and pathetic does one have to be to not
give someone anything, not even $100, when they reconciled all of these
accounts and took such a huge workload off of them, AND STILL let them be
the one to put this information into the system. To say it hurt me deeply is
an understatement. My first response is that it's ethically wrong on all
levels. To see some people "in the crowd" and live the good life financially
is painful. I thought about confronting the situation but I have to act like
it does not matter or affect my peformance. When i'm "reviewed" then i'll
see what's up and ask questions or request a raise. If I get a bad
evaluation then i'll know. But if I get a good evaluation and still got
nothing, I just don't know what to think. I want to be valued and
compensated properly. Being selfish is never good but to see others with so
much, hurts me deeply.
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| User: "slunky" |
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02 Jan 2007 05:35:04 PM |
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I've never got a bonus in any job I've ever had. Even in jobs when I've
been promised a bonus, accounting wouldn't give it to me. Part of
working is getting screwed by your employer..
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-slunky
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| User: "Me" |
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02 Jan 2007 05:37:24 PM |
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I know, but I *work* in accounting! LOL. The two others in my department got
$7,000 combined. I didn't get a dime. Plus, I'm the one putting the payroll
information into the accounting system! How sick and twisted can you get? I
don't get anything, and I have to see what everyone else got. It's a good
thing I can laugh about the stupidity.
"slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote in message
news:slrneplr1s.28he.slunky@latitude.zero...
I've never got a bonus in any job I've ever had. Even in jobs when I've
been promised a bonus, accounting wouldn't give it to me. Part of
working is getting screwed by your employer..
--
-slunky
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| User: "Nina" |
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02 Jan 2007 06:02:35 PM |
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On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 18:27:37 -0500, "Me" <youme@meyou.com> wrote:
I can't explain how humiliating and painful it is to be the one entering
this information into the accounting records, seeing $30,000 bonuses, $2,000
bonuses, $500 bonuses, and then having nothing for me. Why let me put this
pay period in the system at all? If they're not going to give me anything,
why not just hide it? How heartless and pathetic does one have to be to not
give someone anything, not even $100, when they reconciled all of these
accounts and took such a huge workload off of them, AND STILL let them be
the one to put this information into the system. To say it hurt me deeply is
an understatement. My first response is that it's ethically wrong on all
levels. To see some people "in the crowd" and live the good life financially
is painful. I thought about confronting the situation but I have to act like
it does not matter or affect my peformance. When i'm "reviewed" then i'll
see what's up and ask questions or request a raise. If I get a bad
evaluation then i'll know. But if I get a good evaluation and still got
nothing, I just don't know what to think. I want to be valued and
compensated properly. Being selfish is never good but to see others with so
much, hurts me deeply.
I completely agree that this totally sucks, and that it's even more
sucky because you had to enter it. But I'm guessing that it has
everything to do with your time at the company and nothing to do with
your performance. Most companies, as a matter of policy, don't give
any sort of a bonus unless you've been with them for more than a
year... sometimes six months. Was anything said about this one way or
the other when you took the job?
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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| Title: Re: Christmas Bonus |
02 Jan 2007 09:51:34 PM |
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"Nina" <ninaNOSPAM@economika.net> wrote in message
news:nhslp25ldct5c83e34ln4kr79e407v6hcm@4ax.com...
On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 18:27:37 -0500, "Me" <youme@meyou.com> wrote:
<snipped for brevity>
But if I get a good evaluation and still got
nothing, I just don't know what to think. I want to be valued and
compensated properly. Being selfish is never good but to see others with
so
much, hurts me deeply.
I completely agree that this totally sucks, and that it's even more
sucky because you had to enter it. But I'm guessing that it has
everything to do with your time at the company and nothing to do with
your performance. Most companies, as a matter of policy, don't give
any sort of a bonus unless you've been with them for more than a
year... sometimes six months. Was anything said about this one way or
the other when you took the job?
I think Nina is right about this. Four months isn't long enough to warrant
a bonus regardless of the amount of work you do. Every company I ever
worked for made employee's wait six months to a year unless the person was
upper management and it was negotiated into a contract. It likely has
everything to do with length of time and nothing to do with performance.
Clearly, they must be pleased with your work to give you this much
responsibility. I think it would be in your best interest to take a few
steps back, distance yourself, and put up boundaries between your personal
feelings and your job and wait until your first evaluation to see if the
subject comes up, and if not, take that opportunity to ask.
--
Rhi
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| User: "Me" |
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| Title: Re: Christmas Bonus |
02 Jan 2007 11:24:52 PM |
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But the human resources assistant who is "sharing my office" (even though
there are two empty offices) and makes less than me and was hired after me
got $25.
"Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:enf9ab$gld$1@news.datemas.de...
"Nina" <ninaNOSPAM@economika.net> wrote in message
news:nhslp25ldct5c83e34ln4kr79e407v6hcm@4ax.com...
On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 18:27:37 -0500, "Me" <youme@meyou.com> wrote:
<snipped for brevity>
But if I get a good evaluation and still got
nothing, I just don't know what to think. I want to be valued and
compensated properly. Being selfish is never good but to see others with
so
much, hurts me deeply.
I completely agree that this totally sucks, and that it's even more
sucky because you had to enter it. But I'm guessing that it has
everything to do with your time at the company and nothing to do with
your performance. Most companies, as a matter of policy, don't give
any sort of a bonus unless you've been with them for more than a
year... sometimes six months. Was anything said about this one way or
the other when you took the job?
I think Nina is right about this. Four months isn't long enough to
warrant
a bonus regardless of the amount of work you do. Every company I ever
worked for made employee's wait six months to a year unless the person was
upper management and it was negotiated into a contract. It likely has
everything to do with length of time and nothing to do with performance.
Clearly, they must be pleased with your work to give you this much
responsibility. I think it would be in your best interest to take a few
steps back, distance yourself, and put up boundaries between your personal
feelings and your job and wait until your first evaluation to see if the
subject comes up, and if not, take that opportunity to ask.
--
Rhi
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| User: "used2be" |
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| Title: Re: Christmas Bonus |
03 Jan 2007 08:58:16 AM |
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"Me" <youme@meyou.com> wrote in message
news:jGmdnZjgA9bTowbYUSdV9g@ptd.net...
But the human resources assistant who is "sharing my office" (even though
there are two empty offices) and makes less than me and was hired after me
got $25.
it could have been an oversight????
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: Christmas Bonus |
02 Jan 2007 11:34:01 PM |
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so you'll be the richest in the graveyard , go you
"Me" <youme@meyou.com> wrote in message
news:jGmdnZjgA9bTowbYUSdV9g@ptd.net...
But the human resources assistant who is "sharing my office" (even though
there are two empty offices) and makes less than me and was hired after me
got $25.
"Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:enf9ab$gld$1@news.datemas.de...
"Nina" <ninaNOSPAM@economika.net> wrote in message
news:nhslp25ldct5c83e34ln4kr79e407v6hcm@4ax.com...
On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 18:27:37 -0500, "Me" <youme@meyou.com> wrote:
<snipped for brevity>
But if I get a good evaluation and still got
nothing, I just don't know what to think. I want to be valued and
compensated properly. Being selfish is never good but to see others
with
so
much, hurts me deeply.
I completely agree that this totally sucks, and that it's even more
sucky because you had to enter it. But I'm guessing that it has
everything to do with your time at the company and nothing to do with
your performance. Most companies, as a matter of policy, don't give
any sort of a bonus unless you've been with them for more than a
year... sometimes six months. Was anything said about this one way or
the other when you took the job?
I think Nina is right about this. Four months isn't long enough to
warrant
a bonus regardless of the amount of work you do. Every company I ever
worked for made employee's wait six months to a year unless the person
was
upper management and it was negotiated into a contract. It likely has
everything to do with length of time and nothing to do with performance.
Clearly, they must be pleased with your work to give you this much
responsibility. I think it would be in your best interest to take a few
steps back, distance yourself, and put up boundaries between your
personal
feelings and your job and wait until your first evaluation to see if the
subject comes up, and if not, take that opportunity to ask.
--
Rhi
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| User: "Me" |
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| Title: Re: Christmas Bonus |
02 Jan 2007 11:22:57 PM |
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No, nothing was said about this. As I said, even the human resources
assistant, who makes less than me and was hired after me, got $25. To have
to put this information into the system, people getting $30,000, $5,000,
$2,000, $1,000 bonuses, when I get nothing, is just terrible. Why have me
even put this info into the system? Wouldn't someone say, hey, lets give
this guy at least something, this isn't right.
"Nina" <ninaNOSPAM@economika.net> wrote in message
news:nhslp25ldct5c83e34ln4kr79e407v6hcm@4ax.com...
On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 18:27:37 -0500, "Me" <youme@meyou.com> wrote:
I can't explain how humiliating and painful it is to be the one entering
this information into the accounting records, seeing $30,000 bonuses,
$2,000
bonuses, $500 bonuses, and then having nothing for me. Why let me put this
pay period in the system at all? If they're not going to give me anything,
why not just hide it? How heartless and pathetic does one have to be to
not
give someone anything, not even $100, when they reconciled all of these
accounts and took such a huge workload off of them, AND STILL let them be
the one to put this information into the system. To say it hurt me deeply
is
an understatement. My first response is that it's ethically wrong on all
levels. To see some people "in the crowd" and live the good life
financially
is painful. I thought about confronting the situation but I have to act
like
it does not matter or affect my peformance. When i'm "reviewed" then i'll
see what's up and ask questions or request a raise. If I get a bad
evaluation then i'll know. But if I get a good evaluation and still got
nothing, I just don't know what to think. I want to be valued and
compensated properly. Being selfish is never good but to see others with
so
much, hurts me deeply.
I completely agree that this totally sucks, and that it's even more
sucky because you had to enter it. But I'm guessing that it has
everything to do with your time at the company and nothing to do with
your performance. Most companies, as a matter of policy, don't give
any sort of a bonus unless you've been with them for more than a
year... sometimes six months. Was anything said about this one way or
the other when you took the job?
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| User: "Nina" |
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| Title: Re: Christmas Bonus |
03 Jan 2007 05:22:45 AM |
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On Wed, 3 Jan 2007 00:22:57 -0500, "Me" <youme@meyou.com> wrote:
No, nothing was said about this. As I said, even the human resources
assistant, who makes less than me and was hired after me, got $25. To have
to put this information into the system, people getting $30,000, $5,000,
$2,000, $1,000 bonuses, when I get nothing, is just terrible. Why have me
even put this info into the system? Wouldn't someone say, hey, lets give
this guy at least something, this isn't right.
Well, yeah, you *would* think that. And it kind of makes me wonder if
someone screwed up somewhere. It's not the people getting more that
would bother the hell out of me; it's the HR person who was hired
after you, etc. It does make it look like it was either deliberate...
which seems unlikely from everything that you've said... or some kind
of weird oversight, which is also possible. I think that I would try
to bring it up, casually, when you have your performance review,
especially if it's positive (as it is likely to be).
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| User: "used2be" |
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| Title: Re: Christmas Bonus |
03 Jan 2007 08:59:00 AM |
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"Nina" <ninaNOSPAM@economika.net> wrote in message
news:jb4np2104u7ttgl9ii1h8f9n5lnjnoepnn@4ax.com...
On Wed, 3 Jan 2007 00:22:57 -0500, "Me" <youme@meyou.com> wrote:
No, nothing was said about this. As I said, even the human resources
assistant, who makes less than me and was hired after me, got $25. To have
to put this information into the system, people getting $30,000, $5,000,
$2,000, $1,000 bonuses, when I get nothing, is just terrible. Why have me
even put this info into the system? Wouldn't someone say, hey, lets give
this guy at least something, this isn't right.
Well, yeah, you *would* think that. And it kind of makes me wonder if
someone screwed up somewhere. It's not the people getting more that
would bother the hell out of me; it's the HR person who was hired
after you, etc. It does make it look like it was either deliberate...
which seems unlikely from everything that you've said... or some kind
of weird oversight, which is also possible. I think that I would try
to bring it up, casually, when you have your performance review,
especially if it's positive (as it is likely to be).
oh yes, nina, that's a fabulous idea!
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