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"HellPope Huey" |
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18 Jul 2005 02:34:04 PM |
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Crazy is as crazy does... at 10, 2, 4 and usually 11 as well |
DSM-IV for Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD):
A. A pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, lack of
empathy, as indicated by at least five of:
1. a grandiose sense of self-importance (check)
2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power,
brilliance, beauty, or ideal love (check)
3. believes that he or she is "special" and can only be understood
by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or
institutions) (check)
4. requires excessive admiration (check)
5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of
especially favourable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her
expectations (check, check)
6. is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to
achieve his or her own ends (check)
7. lacks empathy and is unwilling to recognize or identify with the
feelings and needs of others (see Usenet archives)
8. is often envious of others or believes that others are envious
of him or her (...well...)
9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviours or attitudes (umm...)
Holy *****, that describes at least 50% of the Church ob de
SubGeeeenius, har har!!! 1, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 9 are pretty darned common,
not to name names or anything, ahem:P That's why I make a point of
looking in the mirror and flipping *myself* the bird several times a
week, EIEIEIE!!! It has the benefit of fending off a certain amount of
NPD the same way bad barrel-lemonade kept pirates from getting scurvy,
although the syph still did a lot of them in handily. (Could this be you??)
I LOVE what an old radio pal of mine said at a station meeting of
yore: "Yeah, you're a big radio star... until you get up and the next
person sits behind the board." OYEZ, OYEZ! Just SAYIN'.
--
HellPope Huey ~ www.subgenius.com
It takes leather balls to play rugby,
but it takes a leather heart to play Modern Life
"Freud, Jung, Skinner, Watson," Deucalion said,
identifying each newly revealed face.
"Rorschach. Psychiatrists, psychologists.
The most useless gods of all."
~ Dean Koontz,
"Frankenstein, Book One: Prodigal Son"
"In a world gone mad,
only a lunatic is truly insane."
~ "The Simpsons"
http://fester.taphouse.org/hellpope/
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| User: "Rev. Chain Smerker" |
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| Title: Re: Crazy is as crazy does... at 10, 2, 4 and usually 11 as well |
18 Jul 2005 05:11:08 PM |
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"HellPope Huey" <HellPopeHuey@BOOM.net> wrote in message
news:MuTCe.9555$8f7.1137@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
DSM-IV for Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD):
A. A pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, lack of
empathy, as indicated by at least five of:
1. a grandiose sense of self-importance (check)
2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power,
brilliance, beauty, or ideal love (check)
3. believes that he or she is "special" and can only be understood
by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or
institutions) (check)
4. requires excessive admiration (check)
5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of
especially favourable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her
expectations (check, check)
6. is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to
achieve his or her own ends (check)
7. lacks empathy and is unwilling to recognize or identify with the
feelings and needs of others (see Usenet archives)
8. is often envious of others or believes that others are envious
of him or her (...well...)
9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviours or attitudes (umm...)
Holy *****, that describes at least 50% of the Church ob de SubGeeeenius,
har har!!! 1, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 9 are pretty darned common, not to name names
or anything, ahem:P That's why I make a point of looking in the mirror and
flipping *myself* the bird several times a week, EIEIEIE!!! It has the
benefit of fending off a certain amount of NPD the same way bad
barrel-lemonade kept pirates from getting scurvy, although the syph still
did a lot of them in handily. (Could this be you??)
I LOVE what an old radio pal of mine said at a station meeting of yore:
"Yeah, you're a big radio star... until you get up and the next person
sits behind the board." OYEZ, OYEZ! Just SAYIN'.
--
HellPope Huey ~ www.subgenius.com
It takes leather balls to play rugby,
but it takes a leather heart to play Modern Life
"Freud, Jung, Skinner, Watson," Deucalion said,
identifying each newly revealed face.
"Rorschach. Psychiatrists, psychologists.
The most useless gods of all."
~ Dean Koontz,
"Frankenstein, Book One: Prodigal Son"
"In a world gone mad,
only a lunatic is truly insane."
~ "The Simpsons"
http://fester.taphouse.org/hellpope/
Ya but Huey thats on Usenet, then again I have never been to a devival so..,
nah
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| User: "HellPope Huey" |
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| Title: Re: Crazy is as crazy does... at 10, 2, 4 and usually 11 as well |
18 Jul 2005 08:29:04 PM |
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Rev. Chain Smerker wrote:
"HellPope Huey" <HellPopeHuey@BOOM.net> wrote in message
news:MuTCe.9555$8f7.1137@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
DSM-IV for Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD):
..........
Holy *****, that describes at least 50% of the Church ob de SubGeeeenius,
har har!!! 1, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 9 are pretty darned common, not to name names
or anything, ahem:P That's why I make a point of looking in the mirror and
flipping *myself* the bird several times a week, EIEIEIE!!! It has the
benefit of fending off a certain amount of NPD the same way bad
barrel-lemonade kept pirates from getting scurvy, although the syph still
did a lot of them in handily. (Could this be you??)
I LOVE what an old radio pal of mine said at a station meeting of yore:
"Yeah, you're a big radio star... until you get up and the next person
sits behind the board." OYEZ, OYEZ! Just SAYIN'.
Ya but Huey thats on Usenet, then again I have never been to a devival so..,
nah
Once you attend, you'll see just about every mental disorder there IS
on proud display, but narcissism is really high on the list. The hosts
always have to pay the janitor double to sweep it up afterwards. Its in
huge PILES, I tell you, HUGE. Thank goodness there are at least a few of
us still active, without major disorders. Take me, for example. To
Chicago. In a vicuna coat. In August. In a neon orange thong and nothing
else. With a beanie that says "Slugger" on the front. No, really, we'll
have fun!! FUN GODDAMNIT!!!!
--
HellPope Huey
It takes leather balls to play rugby,
but it takes a leather heart to play Modern Life
"Freud, Jung, Skinner, Watson," Deucalion said,
identifying each newly revealed face.
"Rorschach. Psychiatrists, psychologists.
The most useless gods of all."
~ Dean Koontz,
"Frankenstein, Book One: Prodigal Son"
"In a world gone mad,
only a lunatic is truly insane."
~ "The Simpsons"
http://fester.taphouse.org/hellpope/
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| User: "nu-monet v8.0" |
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| Title: Re: Crazy is as crazy does... at 10, 2, 4 and usually 11 as well |
18 Jul 2005 06:00:56 PM |
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HellPope Huey wrote:
DSM-IV for Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD):
A. A pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for
admiration, lack of empathy, as indicated by at
least five of:
Bow down and worship me for I am like unto a god, you
worthless, senseless, expendable pig dogs.
1. a grandiose sense of self-importance (check)
I am all-seeing, all-knowing, all-important, all-consuming,
all-powerful, all-triumphant, all-eeyoop.
2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited
success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love (check)
I only have time for fantasies after everyone worships me,
I can snuff out any life at any time, I have ultimate
knowledge, though I am already beauty personified, and
am the only person capable of loving me.
3. believes that he or she is "special" and can
only be understood by, or should associate with, other
special or high-status people (or institutions) (check)
Only my clones can truly appreciate us, in our hive mind.
4. requires excessive admiration (check)
Before and after you say a sentence, you must say
"PRANUMONET!", loudly.
5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable
expectations of especially favourable treatment or
automatic compliance with his or her expectations
(check, check)
Of course I deserve all of this, because we are me.
And that is why I made myself in my image.
6. is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes
advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends (check)
Of course, I will allow you to be one of my higher ranking
slaves, if you show sufficient humbleness, shuffle well and
grovel better.
7. lacks empathy and is unwilling to recognize or
identify with the feelings and needs of others.
Even though you are just more worthless scum on the soles
of my shoes.
8. is often envious of others or believes that others
are envious of him or her (...well...)
But I know you hate me, because you are not me. Nor can
you become me.
9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviours or attitudes
(umm...)
I've already told you this in a hundred other posts, if you
would just read them before commenting. And quit trying to
be like me.
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Be Sure To Visit the 'SubGenius Reverend' Blog:
http://slackoff.blogspot.com/
***********
Give me thank or kill me.
--nu-monet
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| User: "Zapanaz http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl" |
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18 Jul 2005 06:28:46 PM |
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 16:00:56 -0700, "nu-monet v8.0"
<nothing@succeeds.com> wrote:
5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable
expectations of especially favourable treatment or
automatic compliance with his or her expectations
(check, check)
Of course I deserve all of this, because we are me.
And that is why I made myself in my image.
goo goo g'joob
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
turn off your damn cellphones, when the most importan Man in
Christian religion is about to be crucified!
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| User: "Rev. Ivan Stang" |
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| Title: Re: Crazy is as crazy does... at 10, 2, 4 and usually 11 as well |
19 Jul 2005 08:39:06 AM |
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In article <4peod15s12oubhbb9n0o0qvasrqqerr7s2@4ax.com>, Zapanaz wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 16:00:56 -0700, "nu-monet v8.0"
<nothing@succeeds.com> wrote:
5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable
expectations of especially favourable treatment or
automatic compliance with his or her expectations
(check, check)
Of course I deserve all of this, because we are me.
And that is why I made myself in my image.
goo goo g'joob
A less-mentioned symptom of the disorder is the feeling that almost
everyone else must be suffering from it.
--
The SubGenius Foundation, Inc.
(4th Stangian Orthodox MegaFisTemple Lodge of the Wrath of Dobbs Yeti,
Resurrected, Rev. Ivan Stang, prop.)
P.O. Box 181417, Cleveland, OH 44118 (fax 216-320-9528)
Dobbs-Approved Authorized Commercial Outreach of The Church of the SubGenius
SubSITE: http://www.subgenius.com PRABOB
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| User: "HellPope Huey" |
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| Title: Re: Crazy is as crazy does... at 10, 2, 4 and usually 11 as well |
19 Jul 2005 10:52:02 AM |
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Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:
In article <4peod15s12oubhbb9n0o0qvasrqqerr7s2@4ax.com>, Zapanaz wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 16:00:56 -0700, "nu-monet v8.0"
<nothing@succeeds.com> wrote:
5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable
expectations of especially favourable treatment or
automatic compliance with his or her expectations
(check, check)
Of course I deserve all of this, because we are me.
And that is why I made myself in my image.
goo goo g'joob
A less-mentioned symptom of the disorder is the feeling that almost
everyone else must be suffering from it.
That's what you'd expect someone who has it to say.
--
HellPope Huey
You'll shoot fire from both ends BETTER
in your Maidenform bazeer.
If pigs could vote,
the man with the slop bucket
would be elected swineherd every time,
no matter how much slaughtering
he did on the side.
~ Orson Scott Card
"That's a clean-burning Hell, I tell ya whut."
- "King of the Hill"
http://fester.taphouse.org/hellpope/
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| User: "kevindotcar" |
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| Title: Re: Crazy is as crazy does... at 10, 2, 4 and usually 11 as well |
19 Jul 2005 12:27:54 PM |
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HellPope Huey wrote:
Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:
In article <4peod15s12oubhbb9n0o0qvasrqqerr7s2@4ax.com>, Zapanaz wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 16:00:56 -0700, "nu-monet v8.0"
<nothing@succeeds.com> wrote:
5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable
expectations of especially favourable treatment or
automatic compliance with his or her expectations
(check, check)
Of course I deserve all of this, because we are me.
And that is why I made myself in my image.
goo goo g'joob
A less-mentioned symptom of the disorder is the feeling that almost
everyone else must be suffering from it.
That's what you'd expect someone who has it to say.
The flaw in your logic is obvious;
import planet.people.*;
public class neurotic(otherPerson) {
private static bool bIAmNeurotic = False;
private long lNeuroticOthers;
public neurotic{
System.out.println("Screw you, mom and dad\n");
lNeuroticOthers++;
}
public bool IfAskedIfIAmNeurotic() {
lNeuroticOthers++; // Screw whoever asked if I was normal
return bIAmNeurotic;
}
private neurotic{
System.out.println(""); // no comment
}
private void IsNeurotic(neurotic OtherPerson) {
if(IsNeurotic(OtherPerson) {
OtherPerson.neurotic();
}
}
public void SeeIfOtherIsNeurotic(neurotic OtherPerson) {
if(OtherPerson.IfAskedIfIAmNeurotic()) {
lNeuroticOthers++;
}
}
// No destructors, so suicide is not an option
private void main() {
while(bPeopleOnPlanet == True) {
Planet.SeeIfOtherIsNeurotic(Persons[idx_person++]);
}
}
}
....You are incrementing the number of people that you think of as
neurotic twice.
--
"Say it with Java"
kDot
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| User: "Zapanaz http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl" |
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20 Jul 2005 12:33:37 PM |
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On 19 Jul 2005 10:27:54 -0700, "kevindotcar" <kevindotcar@gmail.com>
wrote:
HellPope Huey wrote:
Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:
In article <4peod15s12oubhbb9n0o0qvasrqqerr7s2@4ax.com>, Zapanaz wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 16:00:56 -0700, "nu-monet v8.0"
<nothing@succeeds.com> wrote:
5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable
expectations of especially favourable treatment or
automatic compliance with his or her expectations
(check, check)
Of course I deserve all of this, because we are me.
And that is why I made myself in my image.
goo goo g'joob
A less-mentioned symptom of the disorder is the feeling that almost
everyone else must be suffering from it.
That's what you'd expect someone who has it to say.
The flaw in your logic is obvious;
import planet.people.*;
public class neurotic(otherPerson) {
private static bool bIAmNeurotic = False;
private long lNeuroticOthers;
public neurotic{
System.out.println("Screw you, mom and dad\n");
lNeuroticOthers++;
}
public bool IfAskedIfIAmNeurotic() {
lNeuroticOthers++; // Screw whoever asked if I was normal
return bIAmNeurotic;
}
private neurotic{
System.out.println(""); // no comment
}
private void IsNeurotic(neurotic OtherPerson) {
if(IsNeurotic(OtherPerson) {
OtherPerson.neurotic();
}
}
public void SeeIfOtherIsNeurotic(neurotic OtherPerson) {
if(OtherPerson.IfAskedIfIAmNeurotic()) {
lNeuroticOthers++;
}
}
// No destructors, so suicide is not an option
private void main() {
while(bPeopleOnPlanet == True) {
Planet.SeeIfOtherIsNeurotic(Persons[idx_person++]);
}
}
}
...You are incrementing the number of people that you think of as
neurotic twice.
I wonder if there is a disorder classification for hungarian notation
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
"I'm not really that mean, you're just really that stupid"
From ICEKNIFE, to anyone and everyone, as needed and where applicable
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| User: "Rev. Ivan Stang" |
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19 Jul 2005 12:58:06 PM |
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In article <Ck9De.762$0C.213@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
HellPope Huey <HellPopeHuey@BOOM.net> wrote:
Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:
In article <4peod15s12oubhbb9n0o0qvasrqqerr7s2@4ax.com>, Zapanaz wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 16:00:56 -0700, "nu-monet v8.0"
<nothing@succeeds.com> wrote:
5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable
expectations of especially favourable treatment or
automatic compliance with his or her expectations
(check, check)
Of course I deserve all of this, because we are me.
And that is why I made myself in my image.
goo goo g'joob
A less-mentioned symptom of the disorder is the feeling that almost
everyone else must be suffering from it.
That's what you'd expect someone who has it to say.
All a matter of timing, isn't it.
--
The SubGenius Foundation, Inc.
(4th Stangian Orthodox MegaFisTemple Lodge of the Wrath of Dobbs Yeti,
Resurrected, Rev. Ivan Stang, prop.)
P.O. Box 181417, Cleveland, OH 44118 (fax 216-320-9528)
Dobbs-Approved Authorized Commercial Outreach of The Church of the SubGenius
SubSITE: http://www.subgenius.com PRABOB
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| User: "HellPope Huey" |
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19 Jul 2005 09:18:39 PM |
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Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:
In article <Ck9De.762$0C.213@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
HellPope Huey <HellPopeHuey@BOOM.net> wrote:
Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:
In article <4peod15s12oubhbb9n0o0qvasrqqerr7s2@4ax.com>, Zapanaz wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 16:00:56 -0700, "nu-monet v8.0"
<nothing@succeeds.com> wrote:
5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable
expectations of especially favourable treatment or
automatic compliance with his or her expectations
(check, check)
Of course I deserve all of this, because we are me.
And that is why I made myself in my image.
goo goo g'joob
A less-mentioned symptom of the disorder is the feeling that almost
everyone else must be suffering from it.
That's what you'd expect someone who has it to say.
All a matter of timing, isn't it.
Now you're sounding like Nenslo. A healthy man isn't supposed to be
able to sound like that. Oh, sorry, I forgot where I was and who I was
talking to. Expect $5 in the mail as penance.
--
HellPope Huey
You'll shoot fire from both ends BETTER
in your Maidenform bazeer.
If pigs could vote,
the man with the slop bucket
would be elected swineherd every time,
no matter how much slaughtering
he did on the side.
~ Orson Scott Card
"That's a clean-burning Hell, I tell ya whut."
- "King of the Hill"
http://fester.taphouse.org/hellpope/
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| User: "Zapanaz http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl" |
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18 Jul 2005 05:33:13 PM |
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:34:04 GMT, HellPope Huey
<HellPopeHuey@BOOM.net> wrote:
DSM-IV for Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD):
A. A pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, lack of
empathy, as indicated by at least five of:
1. a grandiose sense of self-importance (check)
2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power,
brilliance, beauty, or ideal love (check)
3. believes that he or she is "special" and can only be understood
by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or
institutions) (check)
4. requires excessive admiration (check)
5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of
especially favourable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her
expectations (check, check)
6. is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to
achieve his or her own ends (check)
7. lacks empathy and is unwilling to recognize or identify with the
feelings and needs of others (see Usenet archives)
8. is often envious of others or believes that others are envious
of him or her (...well...)
9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviours or attitudes (umm...)
Holy *****, that describes at least 50% of the Church ob de
SubGeeeenius, har har!!!
I agree totally ... the thing is though, it seems like there have been
a dozen or so mental illnesses posted in the last year or so, and we
all fit all of them, too.
I'm starting to think reading the DSM-IV is a lot like reading your
horoscope in the newspaper.
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
The question is, alt.slack, a black hole for the mind or just
electronic crack for our pipes?
i have written some incredibly poor sentences in my time
amongst the chaff and yet i can tell if that is a question?
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18 Jul 2005 06:11:53 PM |
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I'm starting to think reading the DSM-IV is a lot like
reading your horoscope in the newspaper.
A friend of mine did a psych rotation on a veteran's hospital in
Chicago, and he said the really interesting feature of narcissists is
that they have so little self-awareness of their condition?
He said they were frustrating to work with. Their disorder had screwed
up their lives for years, but since part of the disorder is
- that they blame *everyone else* when things go wrong, and
- they're manipulators,
they can never get a handle on how to make their own lives better via
changing themselves. It is outside the scope of their imaginations.
Talking therapy relies on the patient seeing how their cognitions and
behavior are interacting with the world, and it didn't really work on
them too well. Their lives would be in ruins, and by the patient's
lights, it was always someone else's screw-up, and they couldn't figure
out how to make people stop it.
I thought it had an existential funniess to it, like dogs getting into
fights with their own tails.
Not that mental illness is funny, of course.
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| User: "König Prüße, GfbAEV" |
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18 Jul 2005 06:35:04 PM |
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"Bibliophilia" wrote:
I'm starting to think reading the DSM-IV is a lot like
reading your horoscope in the newspaper.
A friend of mine did a psych rotation on a veteran's hospital in
Chicago, and he said the really interesting feature of narcissists is
that they have so little self-awareness of their condition?
He said they were frustrating to work with. Their disorder had screwed
up their lives for years, but since part of the disorder is
- that they blame *everyone else* when things go wrong, and
- they're manipulators,
they can never get a handle on how to make their own lives better via
changing themselves. It is outside the scope of their imaginations.
Talking therapy relies on the patient seeing how their cognitions and
behavior are interacting with the world, and it didn't really work on
them too well. Their lives would be in ruins, and by the patient's
lights, it was always someone else's screw-up, and they couldn't figure
out how to make people stop it.
I thought it had an existential funniess to it, like dogs getting into
fights with their own tails.
Not that mental illness is funny, of course.
There was a funny study in the Journal of Personality
and Social Psychology about a group of people in the
lowest 12% who rate themselves at 62%, better than
average. The study concluded that it was only with
some effort that the S's could be shown that they weren't
62% and then they could begin learning. I think that this
might be due to narcissism.
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| User: "Fuckdick" |
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19 Jul 2005 11:34:27 PM |
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K=F6nig wrote:
"Bibliophilia" wrote:
I'm starting to think reading the DSM-IV is a lot like
reading your horoscope in the newspaper.
A friend of mine did a psych rotation on a veteran's hospital in
Chicago, and he said the really interesting feature of narcissists is
that they have so little self-awareness of their condition?
He said they were frustrating to work with. Their disorder had screwed
up their lives for years, but since part of the disorder is
- that they blame *everyone else* when things go wrong, and
- they're manipulators,
they can never get a handle on how to make their own lives better via
changing themselves. It is outside the scope of their imaginations.
Talking therapy relies on the patient seeing how their cognitions and
behavior are interacting with the world, and it didn't really work on
them too well. Their lives would be in ruins, and by the patient's
lights, it was always someone else's screw-up, and they couldn't figure
out how to make people stop it.
I thought it had an existential funniess to it, like dogs getting into
fights with their own tails.
Not that mental illness is funny, of course.
There was a funny study in the Journal of Personality
and Social Psychology about a group of people in the
lowest 12% who rate themselves at 62%, better than
average. The study concluded that it was only with
some effort that the S's could be shown that they weren't
62% and then they could begin learning. I think that this
might be due to narcissism.
Lowest 12% of what?????????????????????????????????????????????????
Fuckdick
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19 Jul 2005 08:57:53 AM |
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K=F6nig wrote:
"Bibliophilia" wrote:
I'm starting to think reading the DSM-IV is a lot like
reading your horoscope in the newspaper.
A friend of mine did a psych rotation on a veteran's hospital in
Chicago, and he said the really interesting feature of narcissists is
that they have so little self-awareness of their condition?
..=2E..
Not that mental illness is funny, of course.
There was a funny study in the Journal of Personality
and Social Psychology about a group of people in the
lowest 12% who rate themselves at 62%,=20
lowest 12% of what?
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| User: "König Prüße, GfbAEV" |
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19 Jul 2005 09:56:01 AM |
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"Bibliophilia" wrote:
König wrote:
"Bibliophilia" wrote:
I'm starting to think reading the DSM-IV is a lot like
reading your horoscope in the newspaper.
A friend of mine did a psych rotation on a veteran's hospital in
Chicago, and he said the really interesting feature of narcissists is
that they have so little self-awareness of their condition?
....
Not that mental illness is funny, of course.
There was a funny study in the Journal of Personality
and Social Psychology about a group of people in the
lowest 12% who rate themselves at 62%,
lowest 12% of what?
Shoe sizes. People with little tiny feet typically
think that they are Bigfoot and just go clomping
around like they own the place.
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| User: "nu-monet v8.0" |
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18 Jul 2005 06:31:29 PM |
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Bibliophilia wrote:
...Their lives would be in ruins, and by the patient's
lights, it was always someone else's screw-up, and
they couldn't figure out how to make people stop it.
I thought it had an existential funniess to it, like
dogs getting into fights with their own tails.
Not that mental illness is funny, of course.
That is an interesting situation, in re, how they got
there in the first place. First of all, either they
must have screwed up someone else's life, who got them
committed; or *they* got committed for *complaining*
about other people!
Usually, people who are in such institutions are either
totally dysfunctional or are acutely aware that something
is wrong with them, but they can't stop it.
But this sounds like a situation right out of a paranoid's
fantasy.
"There's this meeching little ***** at work who's
always trying to get me fired. If it wasn't for him
blabbing to the boss, I would have been promoted by now."
"So you believe that you are important enough for people
to try to deny you the rewards you think you deserve?"
"Well, I've been a good worker for five years at that
job, but I've been passed over for promotions three
times, after that guy stabbed me in the back each time."
"Perhaps you have delusions of granduer."
"Uh, no. I think I deserve to get promoted."
(Mmm. Paranoid megalomaniac. Scribble, scribble.)
--
Be Sure To Visit the 'SubGenius Reverend' Blog:
http://slackoff.blogspot.com/
***********
"I can imagine a LOT when it comes
to unimaginable power."
-- nu-monet
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| User: "Fuckdick" |
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19 Jul 2005 11:31:44 PM |
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nu-monet v8.0 wrote:
Bibliophilia wrote:
...Their lives would be in ruins, and by the patient's
lights, it was always someone else's screw-up, and
they couldn't figure out how to make people stop it.
I thought it had an existential funniess to it, like
dogs getting into fights with their own tails.
Not that mental illness is funny, of course.
That is an interesting situation, in re, how they got
there in the first place. First of all, either they
must have screwed up someone else's life, who got them
committed; or *they* got committed for *complaining*
about other people!
Usually, people who are in such institutions are either
totally dysfunctional or are acutely aware that something
is wrong with them, but they can't stop it.
But this sounds like a situation right out of a paranoid's
fantasy.
"There's this meeching little ***** at work who's
always trying to get me fired. If it wasn't for him
blabbing to the boss, I would have been promoted by now."
"So you believe that you are important enough for people
to try to deny you the rewards you think you deserve?"
"Well, I've been a good worker for five years at that
job, but I've been passed over for promotions three
times, after that guy stabbed me in the back each time."
"Perhaps you have delusions of granduer."
"Uh, no. I think I deserve to get promoted."
(Mmm. Paranoid megalomaniac. Scribble, scribble.)
--
Be Sure To Visit the 'SubGenius Reverend' Blog:
http://slackoff.blogspot.com/
***********
"I can imagine a LOT when it comes
to unimaginable power."
-- nu-monet
You might be being a tad denialist here. There is a such thing as a
pentagram, which to real Satanists represents them getting together in
a "circle" to harrass certain people. I guess if the people complain
they ARE insane to try and take on a circle of 13 people all alone,
especially when those 13 people are educated and happen to run all of
the above mentioned institutions.
Cheers
Fuckdick
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| User: "nu-monet v8.0" |
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20 Jul 2005 10:13:08 AM |
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Fuckdick wrote:
You might be being a tad denialist here. There is
a such thing as a pentagram, which to real Satanists
represents them getting together in a "circle" to
harrass certain people. I guess if the people complain
they ARE insane to try and take on a circle of 13 people
all alone, especially when those 13 people are educated
and happen to run all of the above mentioned institutions.
That would only matter if personal power was incremental.
However, like the senses, the body and its energy does
not work in an additive manner, but a logarithmic manner.
For example, if you hear a sound at 10dB, you can usually
only tell if it is louder if it is 20dBs, then 30dB, etc.
But when the sound hits 100dB, you can only tell that it
is louder if it is increased to 200dB, etc. It is most
obvious in the senses.
As with power. If you build up your power, your first
efforts seem to be and indeed are incremental, but then
they become logarithmic.
This circle of 13 would have the power of 13, but if you
were to increase your power to challenge them, you would
not have the power of 13, but the power of 30.
It is unlikely that the majority of them would even have
developed their power to the second degree, being mere
tyros in the development of power, thinking they could
rely on some higher power to imbue them with power with
no effort on their part.
Most likely their leader has developed their personal
power to the fifth or sixth level, which would still
give you an overwhelming advantage over their entire
group if you had developed your power beyond
incrementally.
Raw power would no longer be an issue, but you would
still need a strategy to defeat them. Being a chess
master is not enough, you must move the pieces.
And crush your enemies like the insects they are.
--
Be Sure To Visit the 'SubGenius Reverend' Blog:
http://slackoff.blogspot.com/
***********
"We're going to take things away from
you on behalf of the common good."
-- Hillary Clinton
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| User: "gravity" |
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20 Jul 2005 11:25:01 AM |
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"nu-monet v8.0" <nothing@succeeds.com> wrote in message
news:42DE6A04.7BD5@succeeds.com...
For example, if you hear a sound at 10dB, you can usually
only tell if it is louder if it is 20dBs, then 30dB, etc.
But when the sound hits 100dB, you can only tell that it
is louder if it is increased to 200dB, etc. It is most
obvious in the senses.
generally a 10 dB increase (10 times power) means a perceived doubling of
sound level. but it is sort of non-linear. the human ear can perceive 3 dB
changes with soft sounds, and 0.25 dB changes with loud sounds. obviously
the hearing is more acute in the midrange, than bass and treble range.
i believe there is a measurement of perceived loudness, called phons or
something, that is subjectively more revealing than dB units.
m.
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| User: "HellPope Huey" |
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20 Jul 2005 10:50:10 PM |
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gravity wrote:
i believe there is a measurement of perceived loudness, called phons or
something, that is subjectively more revealing than dB units.
Good thing you can't really hear Usenet, huh? It'd make those tripods
from the Tommy Cruise version of "War of the Worlds" sound like a spring
rain. BWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHOONNGGGGGGGGGGGG
--
HellPope Huey
I wonder how many people we will have to kill
before we kill all the people who want to kill other people?
Get a sandwich and a soda pop, this may take a while.
Only a sadistic scoundrel- or a fool-
tells the bald truth on social occasions.
- Lazarus Long
"I'd marry a midget just for the handicapped parking."
~ Kathleen Madigan
http://fester.taphouse.org/hellpope/
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| User: "Pope Phil" |
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20 Jul 2005 12:37:17 PM |
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nu-monet v8.0 wrote:
For example, if you hear a sound at 10dB, you can usually
only tell if it is louder if it is 20dBs, then 30dB, etc.
But when the sound hits 100dB, you can only tell that it
is louder if it is increased to 200dB, etc. It is most
obvious in the senses.
what happens if you turn it up to 11
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| User: "HellPope Huey" |
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18 Jul 2005 08:30:18 PM |
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Bibliophilia wrote:
I thought it had an existential funniess to it, like dogs getting into
fights with their own tails.
Not that mental illness is funny, of course.
It is on alt.slack. Well, usually.
--
HellPope Huey
It takes leather balls to play rugby,
but it takes a leather heart to play Modern Life
"Freud, Jung, Skinner, Watson," Deucalion said,
identifying each newly revealed face.
"Rorschach. Psychiatrists, psychologists.
The most useless gods of all."
~ Dean Koontz,
"Frankenstein, Book One: Prodigal Son"
"In a world gone mad,
only a lunatic is truly insane."
~ "The Simpsons"
http://fester.taphouse.org/hellpope/
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| User: "König Prüße, GfbAEV" |
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18 Jul 2005 08:39:12 PM |
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HellPope Huey:
Bibliophilia wrote:
I thought it had an existential funniess to it, like dogs getting into
fights with their own tails.
Not that mental illness is funny, of course.
It is on alt.slack. Well, usually.
--
The butt-sniffing is fun, too!
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| User: "K-9" |
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18 Jul 2005 09:37:27 PM |
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 01:30:18 GMT, HellPope Huey
<HellPopeHuey@BOOM.net> barked:
Bibliophilia wrote:
I thought it had an existential funniess to it, like dogs getting into
fights with their own tails.
Not that mental illness is funny, of course.
It is on alt.slack. Well, usually.
it's that damn tail, almost just within reach
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| User: "HellPope Huey" |
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19 Jul 2005 10:49:52 AM |
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K-9 wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 01:30:18 GMT, HellPope Huey
<HellPopeHuey@BOOM.net> barked:
Bibliophilia wrote:
I thought it had an existential funniess to it, like dogs getting into
fights with their own tails.
Not that mental illness is funny, of course.
It is on alt.slack. Well, usually.
it's that damn tail, almost just within reach
I really like the sound that results when you grab two cats by those
furry handles and SLAM their goddamned heads together a few times. It
makes this lovely, muted sort of wood block-y sound and the yowling
stops almost instantly. You have to be quick, because those little
bastards can twist around and slash you in a trice, but trust me, it can
work and it comes with rich rewards.
"I think you have a gambling problem."
"I prefer to think of it as a hobby that has me by the balls."
- Some otherwise forgettable sitcom on NBC
--
HellPope Huey
You'll shoot fire from both ends BETTER
in your Maidenform bazeer.
If pigs could vote,
the man with the slop bucket
would be elected swineherd every time,
no matter how much slaughtering
he did on the side.
~ Orson Scott Card
"That's a clean-burning Hell, I tell ya whut."
- "King of the Hill"
http://fester.taphouse.org/hellpope/
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| User: "K-9" |
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20 Jul 2005 06:22:43 PM |
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:49:52 GMT, HellPope Huey
<HellPopeHuey@BOOM.net> barked:
K-9 wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 01:30:18 GMT, HellPope Huey
<HellPopeHuey@BOOM.net> barked:
Bibliophilia wrote:
I thought it had an existential funniess to it, like dogs getting into
fights with their own tails.
Not that mental illness is funny, of course.
It is on alt.slack. Well, usually.
it's that damn tail, almost just within reach
I really like the sound that results when you grab two cats by those
furry handles and SLAM their goddamned heads together a few times. It
makes this lovely, muted sort of wood block-y sound and the yowling
stops almost instantly. You have to be quick, because those little
bastards can twist around and slash you in a trice, but trust me, it can
work and it comes with rich rewards.
"I think you have a gambling problem."
"I prefer to think of it as a hobby that has me by the balls."
- Some otherwise forgettable sitcom on NBC
A bit of distempered clobbier, eh ?
Get a soundfont, maybe someone can add it to the percussion section of
a movie score.
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| User: "Zapanaz http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl" |
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18 Jul 2005 06:33:19 PM |
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On 18 Jul 2005 16:11:53 -0700, "Bibliophilia" <cmiller@crs.loc.gov>
wrote:
I'm starting to think reading the DSM-IV is a lot like
reading your horoscope in the newspaper.
A friend of mine did a psych rotation on a veteran's hospital in
Chicago, and he said the really interesting feature of narcissists is
that they have so little self-awareness of their condition?
He said they were frustrating to work with. Their disorder had screwed
up their lives for years, but since part of the disorder is
- that they blame *everyone else* when things go wrong, and
- they're manipulators,
they can never get a handle on how to make their own lives better via
changing themselves. It is outside the scope of their imaginations.
Talking therapy relies on the patient seeing how their cognitions and
behavior are interacting with the world, and it didn't really work on
them too well. Their lives would be in ruins, and by the patient's
lights, it was always someone else's screw-up, and they couldn't figure
out how to make people stop it.
Sounds like he was working in the White House.
I thought it had an existential funniess to it, like dogs getting into
fights with their own tails.
Not that mental illness is funny, of course.
Hey if we can't laugh at other people's misfortunes, what -can- we
laugh at, y'know?
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
Imagine what having a really ripping female orgasm would do to all
those gnarly macho cowboys.
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| User: "marika" |
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24 Jul 2005 10:51:13 AM |
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"Zapanaz" <http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl> wrote in message
news:30fod1p9rl0v6c45tcj3hdmrst0bruisam@4ax.com...
Hey if we can't laugh at other people's misfortunes, what -can- we
laugh at, y'know?
So, WSB-AM runs this post promo about the runaway
Fiancee' . . . using Flock of Seagulls' "I ran" as the
music bed.
Journalists have no respect for the news anymore.
mk5000
"To those I have trusted in one way or another - follow up:
I have sent the following information on to:
Waverly, Tn Police Department
CBS Morning News http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/feedback/fb_news_form.shtml
and included Att: Bradley - 60 Minutes "--dgsaba
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| User: "kevindotcar" |
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18 Jul 2005 08:02:26 PM |
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Zapanaz wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:34:04 GMT, HellPope Huey
<HellPopeHuey@BOOM.net> wrote:
[---]
Holy *****, that describes at least 50% of the Church ob de
SubGeeeenius, har har!!!
I agree totally ... the thing is though, it seems like there have been
a dozen or so mental illnesses posted in the last year or so, and we
all fit all of them, too.
I'm starting to think reading the DSM-IV is a lot like reading your
horoscope in the newspaper.
They're guidelines for tdocs/pdocs (who have prolly more training in
their field than you and I) for arriving at a dx, *after* interview
and psychiatric evaluation- nothing more.
In other words, it's not a frickin' cookbook-
Just because you can *read* it, doesn't mean you understand it...
Take for example the U.S. Constitution; 45 pages of complete
operating instructions for a country of 300M peoples- and we can't
find 13 that agree on what the instructions say.
kDot
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