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Topic: Sociology > Depression
User: "Teilhard Knight"
Date: 13 Oct 2004 02:00:26 AM
Object: Death
I'm afraid I cannot believe in the supernatural. I think that when we die it
is absolute death. You do not exist anymore in any form. It is like it all
goes blank as when you sleep, and blank it is thereafter. My scientific mind
cannot conceive it other ways but in the Darwinian way.
--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial
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.

User: "Jamal Chapultapec"

Title: Re: Death 14 Oct 2004 05:05:17 PM
"Teilhard Knight" <teilhk@privacy.net> wrote in
news:2t4287F1rsvvbU1@uni-berlin.de:

I'm afraid I cannot believe in the supernatural. I think that when we
die it is absolute death. You do not exist anymore in any form. It is
like it all goes blank as when you sleep, and blank it is thereafter.
My scientific mind cannot conceive it other ways but in the Darwinian
way.

It takes intelligence to have a scientific mind. You are not intelligent.
So obviously, you are lying (and not very convincingly) about having a
scientific mind.
.
User: "% surfs@uniserve"

Title: Re: Death 14 Oct 2004 05:18:35 PM
"Jamal Chapultapec" <your@email.com> wrote in message
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"Teilhard Knight" <teilhk@privacy.net> wrote in
news:2t4287F1rsvvbU1@uni-berlin.de:

I'm afraid I cannot believe in the supernatural. I think that when we
die it is absolute death. You do not exist anymore in any form. It is
like it all goes blank as when you sleep, and blank it is thereafter.
My scientific mind cannot conceive it other ways but in the Darwinian
way.


It takes intelligence to have a scientific mind. You are not intelligent.
So obviously, you are lying (and not very convincingly) about having a
scientific mind.

i've only been saying this for 6 years
.

User: "Alan Harding"

Title: Re: Death 15 Oct 2004 01:05:32 AM
In message <Xns9582B802288DDyouremailcom@68.12.19.6>, Jamal Chapultapec
<your@email.com> writes

"Teilhard Knight" <teilhk@privacy.net> wrote in
news:2t4287F1rsvvbU1@uni-berlin.de:

I'm afraid I cannot believe in the supernatural. I think that when we
die it is absolute death. You do not exist anymore in any form. It is
like it all goes blank as when you sleep, and blank it is thereafter.
My scientific mind cannot conceive it other ways but in the Darwinian
way.


It takes intelligence to have a scientific mind. You are not intelligent.
So obviously, you are lying (and not very convincingly) about having a
scientific mind.

You don't have to be particularly intelligent, just have an enquiring
mind, be a little cynical about 'facts', and be willing to learn. Having
a logical approach to things is good, too - it's easier if you start off
with that, and then do the training, than sitting down thinking
chaotically and trying to learn logic.
The average IQ of US doctors is only 115. (You may want to debate
whether doctors are proper scientists, but it's the nearest group I have
a figure for.)
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
.
User: "Teilhard Knight"

Title: Re: Death 15 Oct 2004 05:42:50 PM

The average IQ of US doctors is only 115. (You may want to debate whether
doctors are proper scientists, but it's the nearest group I have a figure
for.)

And what is your source of this?
--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial
Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox
.
User: "% surfs@uniserve"

Title: Re: Death 15 Oct 2004 05:53:10 PM
"Teilhard Knight" <teilhk@privacy.net> wrote in message
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The average IQ of US doctors is only 115. (You may want to debate

whether

doctors are proper scientists, but it's the nearest group I have a

figure

for.)


And what is your source of this?

--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial

Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox


i told him
.

User: "Alan Harding"

Title: Re: Death 16 Oct 2004 02:18:29 PM
In message <2tb279F1t29s4U1@uni-berlin.de>, Teilhard Knight
<teilhk@privacy.net> writes

The average IQ of US doctors is only 115. (You may want to debate whether
doctors are proper scientists, but it's the nearest group I have a figure
for.)


And what is your source of this?

I've tried, but my memory won't even drag a context for this one. I may
have a paper copy, but I'm years (literally) behind on my filing. I am
sure that's what I read, still, and I don't deal with Rupert Murdoch.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
.
User: "Teilhard Knight"

Title: Re: Death 16 Oct 2004 07:00:00 PM
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Vt$ZEiFFQXcBFwvZ@harding.demon.co.uk...

In message <2tb279F1t29s4U1@uni-berlin.de>, Teilhard Knight
<teilhk@privacy.net> writes

The average IQ of US doctors is only 115. (You may want to debate
whether
doctors are proper scientists, but it's the nearest group I have a
figure
for.)


And what is your source of this?


I've tried, but my memory won't even drag a context for this one. I may
have a paper copy, but I'm years (literally) behind on my filing. I am
sure that's what I read, still, and I don't deal with Rupert Murdoch.

So, let's agree you said nothing, okay?
--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial
Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox
.
User: "% surfs@uniserve"

Title: Re: Death 16 Oct 2004 07:46:09 PM
"Teilhard Knight" <teilhk@privacy.net> wrote in message
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"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Vt$ZEiFFQXcBFwvZ@harding.demon.co.uk...

In message <2tb279F1t29s4U1@uni-berlin.de>, Teilhard Knight
<teilhk@privacy.net> writes

The average IQ of US doctors is only 115. (You may want to debate
whether
doctors are proper scientists, but it's the nearest group I have a
figure
for.)


And what is your source of this?


I've tried, but my memory won't even drag a context for this one. I may
have a paper copy, but I'm years (literally) behind on my filing. I am
sure that's what I read, still, and I don't deal with Rupert Murdoch.


So, let's agree you said nothing, okay?

--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial

Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox


no ... agree to fight it relieves my boredom
.
User: "Teilhard Knight"

Title: Re: Death 16 Oct 2004 09:19:13 PM
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In message <2tb279F1t29s4U1@uni-berlin.de>, Teilhard Knight
<teilhk@privacy.net> writes

The average IQ of US doctors is only 115. (You may want to debate
whether
doctors are proper scientists, but it's the nearest group I have a
figure
for.)


And what is your source of this?


I've tried, but my memory won't even drag a context for this one. I may
have a paper copy, but I'm years (literally) behind on my filing. I am
sure that's what I read, still, and I don't deal with Rupert Murdoch.


So, let's agree you said nothing, okay?

--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial

Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox



no ... agree to fight it relieves my boredom

I don't do what I do for your sake.
--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial
Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox
.
User: "% surfs@uniserve"

Title: Re: Death 16 Oct 2004 09:45:52 PM
"Teilhard Knight" <teilhk@privacy.net> wrote in message
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In message <2tb279F1t29s4U1@uni-berlin.de>, Teilhard Knight
<teilhk@privacy.net> writes

The average IQ of US doctors is only 115. (You may want to debate
whether
doctors are proper scientists, but it's the nearest group I have a
figure
for.)


And what is your source of this?


I've tried, but my memory won't even drag a context for this one. I

may

have a paper copy, but I'm years (literally) behind on my filing. I

am

sure that's what I read, still, and I don't deal with Rupert Murdoch.


So, let's agree you said nothing, okay?

--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial

Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox



no ... agree to fight it relieves my boredom


I don't do what I do for your sake.

--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial

Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox


that's what you think but as long as you come here ,
it will always be for my sake and i'll use it however i like
.
User: "Teilhard Knight"

Title: Re: Death 16 Oct 2004 10:27:47 PM
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In message <2tb279F1t29s4U1@uni-berlin.de>, Teilhard Knight
<teilhk@privacy.net> writes

The average IQ of US doctors is only 115. (You may want to debate
whether
doctors are proper scientists, but it's the nearest group I have a
figure
for.)


And what is your source of this?


I've tried, but my memory won't even drag a context for this one. I

may

have a paper copy, but I'm years (literally) behind on my filing. I

am

sure that's what I read, still, and I don't deal with Rupert
Murdoch.


So, let's agree you said nothing, okay?

--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial

Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox



no ... agree to fight it relieves my boredom


I don't do what I do for your sake.

--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial

Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox



that's what you think but as long as you come here ,
it will always be for my sake and i'll use it however i like

You are deluded. Shoot the pink elephant in front of you.
--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial
Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox
.
User: "% surfs@uniserve"

Title: Re: Death 16 Oct 2004 10:45:57 PM
"Teilhard Knight" <teilhk@privacy.net> wrote in message
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In message <2tb279F1t29s4U1@uni-berlin.de>, Teilhard Knight
<teilhk@privacy.net> writes

The average IQ of US doctors is only 115. (You may want to

debate

whether
doctors are proper scientists, but it's the nearest group I have

a

figure
for.)


And what is your source of this?


I've tried, but my memory won't even drag a context for this one.

I

may

have a paper copy, but I'm years (literally) behind on my filing.

I

am

sure that's what I read, still, and I don't deal with Rupert
Murdoch.


So, let's agree you said nothing, okay?

--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial

Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox



no ... agree to fight it relieves my boredom


I don't do what I do for your sake.

--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial

Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox



that's what you think but as long as you come here ,
it will always be for my sake and i'll use it however i like


You are deluded. Shoot the pink elephant in front of you.

--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial

Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox


you are still here , you are still answering me ,
you are still doing exactly what i want ,
and as long as you come here ,
even if you don't talk to me ,
that's what i want ,
so sit back and enjoy ,
as i lead you however i like
and every time you post ,
that's what i want
.
User: "Teilhard Knight"

Title: Re: Death 17 Oct 2004 12:52:10 AM
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"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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In message <2tb279F1t29s4U1@uni-berlin.de>, Teilhard Knight
<teilhk@privacy.net> writes

The average IQ of US doctors is only 115. (You may want to

debate

whether
doctors are proper scientists, but it's the nearest group I
have

a

figure
for.)


And what is your source of this?


I've tried, but my memory won't even drag a context for this one.

I

may

have a paper copy, but I'm years (literally) behind on my filing.

I

am

sure that's what I read, still, and I don't deal with Rupert
Murdoch.


So, let's agree you said nothing, okay?

--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial

Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox



no ... agree to fight it relieves my boredom


I don't do what I do for your sake.

--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial

Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox



that's what you think but as long as you come here ,
it will always be for my sake and i'll use it however i like


You are deluded. Shoot the pink elephant in front of you.

--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial

Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox




you are still here , you are still answering me ,
you are still doing exactly what i want ,
and as long as you come here ,
even if you don't talk to me ,
that's what i want ,
so sit back and enjoy ,
as i lead you however i like
and every time you post ,
that's what i want

Another one for you. Now tell me the format you want. Do you prefer HTML or
Plain Text? Are you happy with the fonts? I can change them to please you,
you know? Nothing like pleasing you when I call you "nuts".
--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial
Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox
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User: "% surfs@uniserve"

Title: Re: Death 17 Oct 2004 01:08:46 AM
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User: "Teilhard Knight"

Title: Re: Death 17 Oct 2004 03:22:38 AM
"%" <surfs@uniserve> wrote in message
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Another one for you. Now tell me the format you want. Do you prefer HTML
or
Plain Text? Are you happy with the fonts? I can change them to please you,
you know? Nothing like pleasing you when I LICK your "nuts".

You see, you are no real man. You'd better define your sexual preferences.
You keep boasting you are very macho and it comes out you are homosexual.
--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial
Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox
.











User: "Charles"

Title: Re: Death 15 Oct 2004 02:01:29 AM
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 07:05:32 +0100, Alan Harding
<Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <Xns9582B802288DDyouremailcom@68.12.19.6>, Jamal Chapultapec
<your@email.com> writes

"Teilhard Knight" <teilhk@privacy.net> wrote in
news:2t4287F1rsvvbU1@uni-berlin.de:

I'm afraid I cannot believe in the supernatural. I think that when we
die it is absolute death. You do not exist anymore in any form. It is
like it all goes blank as when you sleep, and blank it is thereafter.
My scientific mind cannot conceive it other ways but in the Darwinian
way.


It takes intelligence to have a scientific mind. You are not intelligent.
So obviously, you are lying (and not very convincingly) about having a
scientific mind.


You don't have to be particularly intelligent, just have an enquiring
mind, be a little cynical about 'facts', and be willing to learn. Having
a logical approach to things is good, too - it's easier if you start off
with that, and then do the training, than sitting down thinking
chaotically and trying to learn logic.

The average IQ of US doctors is only 115. (You may want to debate
whether doctors are proper scientists, but it's the nearest group I have
a figure for.)

Nobel Prize winners come in at 155 according to this site
http://nicologic.free.fr/
--
- Charles
-
-does not play well with others
.
User: "Alan Harding"

Title: Re: Death 15 Oct 2004 03:18:48 PM
In message <8dtum0doh4g1ji2edh40bjcdick6c2mkmi@4ax.com>, Charles
<ckraft@SPAMTRAPwest.net> writes

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 07:05:32 +0100, Alan Harding
<Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <Xns9582B802288DDyouremailcom@68.12.19.6>, Jamal Chapultapec
<your@email.com> writes

"Teilhard Knight" <teilhk@privacy.net> wrote in
news:2t4287F1rsvvbU1@uni-berlin.de:

I'm afraid I cannot believe in the supernatural. I think that when we
die it is absolute death. You do not exist anymore in any form. It is
like it all goes blank as when you sleep, and blank it is thereafter.
My scientific mind cannot conceive it other ways but in the Darwinian
way.


It takes intelligence to have a scientific mind. You are not intelligent.
So obviously, you are lying (and not very convincingly) about having a
scientific mind.


You don't have to be particularly intelligent, just have an enquiring
mind, be a little cynical about 'facts', and be willing to learn. Having
a logical approach to things is good, too - it's easier if you start off
with that, and then do the training, than sitting down thinking
chaotically and trying to learn logic.

The average IQ of US doctors is only 115. (You may want to debate
whether doctors are proper scientists, but it's the nearest group I have
a figure for.)


Nobel Prize winners come in at 155 according to this site

http://nicologic.free.fr/

It sounds like they're picking the right people.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
.




User: "% surfs@uniserve"

Title: Re: Death 13 Oct 2004 02:23:06 AM
"Teilhard Knight" <teilhk@privacy.net> wrote in message
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I'm afraid I cannot believe in the supernatural. I think that when we die

it

is absolute death. You do not exist anymore in any form. It is like it all
goes blank as when you sleep, and blank it is thereafter. My scientific

mind

cannot conceive it other ways but in the Darwinian way.

--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial

Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox


well we do die , but we can still boil our eggs
.
User: "Teilhard Knight"

Title: Re: Death 13 Oct 2004 02:35:11 AM
"%" <surfs@uniserve> wrote in message
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"Teilhard Knight" <teilhk@privacy.net> wrote in message
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I'm afraid I cannot believe in the supernatural. I think that when we die

it

is absolute death. You do not exist anymore in any form. It is like it
all
goes blank as when you sleep, and blank it is thereafter. My scientific

mind

cannot conceive it other ways but in the Darwinian way.

--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial

Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox




well we do die , but we can still boil our eggs

Personally, I prefer an omelet.
--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial
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.
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Title: Re: Death 13 Oct 2004 02:48:33 AM
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"Teilhard Knight" <teilhk@privacy.net> wrote in message
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I'm afraid I cannot believe in the supernatural. I think that when we

die

it

is absolute death. You do not exist anymore in any form. It is like it
all
goes blank as when you sleep, and blank it is thereafter. My scientific

mind

cannot conceive it other ways but in the Darwinian way.

--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial

Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox




well we do die , but we can still boil our eggs


Personally, I prefer an omelet.

--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial

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too bad , there's no frying pans in dead land
.
User: "Teilhard Knight"

Title: Re: Death 13 Oct 2004 02:53:10 AM
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"Teilhard Knight" <teilhk@privacy.net> wrote in message
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I'm afraid I cannot believe in the supernatural. I think that when we

die

it

is absolute death. You do not exist anymore in any form. It is like it
all
goes blank as when you sleep, and blank it is thereafter. My
scientific

mind

cannot conceive it other ways but in the Darwinian way.

--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial

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well we do die , but we can still boil our eggs


Personally, I prefer an omelet.

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too bad , there's no frying pans in dead land

There are no pots for you to boil your eggs either.
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Title: Re: Death 13 Oct 2004 02:57:15 AM
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I'm afraid I cannot believe in the supernatural. I think that when

we

die

it

is absolute death. You do not exist anymore in any form. It is like

it

all
goes blank as when you sleep, and blank it is thereafter. My
scientific

mind

cannot conceive it other ways but in the Darwinian way.

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well we do die , but we can still boil our eggs


Personally, I prefer an omelet.

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too bad , there's no frying pans in dead land


There are no pots for you to boil your eggs either.

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i never said there was
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Title: Re: Death 14 Oct 2004 03:12:01 PM
Teilhard Knight wrote:

I'm afraid I cannot believe in the supernatural. I think that when we die
it

Yeah. I'm on the same page as you. All that's left after we die is our
legacy.
--
Autumn wins you best by this its mute
Appeal to sympathy for its decay.
-Robert Browning
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User: "Teilhard Knight"

Title: Re: Death 15 Oct 2004 05:39:16 PM
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Teilhard Knight wrote:

I'm afraid I cannot believe in the supernatural. I think that when we die
it


Yeah. I'm on the same page as you. All that's left after we die is our
legacy.

Right. I have been in the dungeons begging God to give me a little relief,
praying, asking, promising, and all I have got is a deaf ear. If God exists,
He is the most strange being I've ever known.
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Title: Re: Death 13 Oct 2004 04:35:12 AM
Teilhard Knight wrote:

I'm afraid I cannot believe in the supernatural. I think that when we die it
is absolute death. You do not exist anymore in any form. It is like it all
goes blank as when you sleep, and blank it is thereafter. My scientific mind
cannot conceive it other ways but in the Darwinian way.

Baxter (Space) wrote about the 'Gaijin' or Aliens who saw human
life as we would perceive the life of a Mayfly. Meaninglessly
short and wastefully beautiful. The Gaijin lived for ever and
were totally robotic but they could understand patterns of
behaviour as if it was some mathematical equation.
What they couldn't understand was faith. It is faith that makes
us human according to Baxter. Personally, I think it is more
things like football and credit that make us human...
GlennT
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User: "Teilhard Knight"

Title: Re: Death 13 Oct 2004 06:54:50 AM
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Teilhard Knight wrote:

I'm afraid I cannot believe in the supernatural. I think that when we die
it is absolute death. You do not exist anymore in any form. It is like it
all goes blank as when you sleep, and blank it is thereafter. My
scientific mind cannot conceive it other ways but in the Darwinian way.


Baxter (Space) wrote about the 'Gaijin' or Aliens who saw human life as we
would perceive the life of a Mayfly. Meaninglessly short and wastefully
beautiful. The Gaijin lived for ever and were totally robotic but they
could understand patterns of behaviour as if it was some mathematical
equation.

What they couldn't understand was faith. It is faith that makes us human
according to Baxter. Personally, I think it is more things like football
and credit that make us human...

I have had profound spiritual experiences, and there are things in my life
which would be too much of a coincidence to occur without divine
intervention. Still, I tend to consider the first as psychological
experiences and the second actually coincidences. Faith and other related
phenomena seem to me as purely psychological. However, I need badly that
psychological side of me. I am very spiritual, or try to be. It's all my
rational mind that prevents me from being mystical.
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User: "Whiskers"

Title: Re: Death 13 Oct 2004 05:15:49 PM
On 2004-10-13, Teilhard Knight <teilhk@privacy.net> wrote:
snip

I have had profound spiritual experiences, and there are things in my life
which would be too much of a coincidence to occur without divine
intervention. Still, I tend to consider the first as psychological
experiences and the second actually coincidences. Faith and other related
phenomena seem to me as purely psychological. However, I need badly that
psychological side of me. I am very spiritual, or try to be. It's all my
rational mind that prevents me from being mystical.

I don't believe that having a good (possibly correct) understanding of the
physical world, necessarily removes the possibility of a non-physical
aspect to life or existence or whatever you choose to call it. Nor do I
believe that an unquestioning belief in the literal truth of every word of
any book, is required for one to have a spiritual or religious faith. Nor
do I believe that belief (or unbelief, which is really the same thing)
proves anything.
--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~
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User: "Teilhard Knight"

Title: Re: Death 15 Oct 2004 05:15:08 PM
"Whiskers" <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote in message
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On 2004-10-13, Teilhard Knight <teilhk@privacy.net> wrote:

snip

I have had profound spiritual experiences, and there are things in my
life
which would be too much of a coincidence to occur without divine
intervention. Still, I tend to consider the first as psychological
experiences and the second actually coincidences. Faith and other related
phenomena seem to me as purely psychological. However, I need badly that
psychological side of me. I am very spiritual, or try to be. It's all my
rational mind that prevents me from being mystical.


I don't believe that having a good (possibly correct) understanding of the
physical world, necessarily removes the possibility of a non-physical
aspect to life or existence or whatever you choose to call it. Nor do I
believe that an unquestioning belief in the literal truth of every word of
any book, is required for one to have a spiritual or religious faith. Nor
do I believe that belief (or unbelief, which is really the same thing)
proves anything.

And I believe you are right. One can never be sure. It's just as I would
like it to be. The mystical ideas about dying and reporting to God and
getting another task on earth, simply make me feel tired. I am tired of
suffering all my life and I do not want more of the same. I want to remain
dead, flat dead.
--
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User: "Whiskers"

Title: Re: Death 16 Oct 2004 02:57:25 PM
On 2004-10-15, Teilhard Knight <teilhk@privacy.net> wrote:

"Whiskers" <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote in message
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On 2004-10-13, Teilhard Knight <teilhk@privacy.net> wrote:

snip

I have had profound spiritual experiences, and there are things in my
life
which would be too much of a coincidence to occur without divine
intervention. Still, I tend to consider the first as psychological
experiences and the second actually coincidences. Faith and other related
phenomena seem to me as purely psychological. However, I need badly that
psychological side of me. I am very spiritual, or try to be. It's all my
rational mind that prevents me from being mystical.


I don't believe that having a good (possibly correct) understanding of the
physical world, necessarily removes the possibility of a non-physical
aspect to life or existence or whatever you choose to call it. Nor do I
believe that an unquestioning belief in the literal truth of every word of
any book, is required for one to have a spiritual or religious faith. Nor
do I believe that belief (or unbelief, which is really the same thing)
proves anything.


And I believe you are right. One can never be sure. It's just as I would
like it to be. The mystical ideas about dying and reporting to God and
getting another task on earth, simply make me feel tired. I am tired of
suffering all my life and I do not want more of the same. I want to remain
dead, flat dead.

I'm just not going to try and guess what 'comes after' or how, or if, I'll
feel about things then.
--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~
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User: "Teilhard Knight"

Title: Re: Death 16 Oct 2004 09:22:56 PM
"Whiskers" <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote in message
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On 2004-10-15, Teilhard Knight <teilhk@privacy.net> wrote:

"Whiskers" <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote in message
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On 2004-10-13, Teilhard Knight <teilhk@privacy.net> wrote:

snip

I have had profound spiritual experiences, and there are things in my
life
which would be too much of a coincidence to occur without divine
intervention. Still, I tend to consider the first as psychological
experiences and the second actually coincidences. Faith and other
related
phenomena seem to me as purely psychological. However, I need badly
that
psychological side of me. I am very spiritual, or try to be. It's all
my
rational mind that prevents me from being mystical.


I don't believe that having a good (possibly correct) understanding of
the
physical world, necessarily removes the possibility of a non-physical
aspect to life or existence or whatever you choose to call it. Nor do I
believe that an unquestioning belief in the literal truth of every word
of
any book, is required for one to have a spiritual or religious faith.
Nor
do I believe that belief (or unbelief, which is really the same thing)
proves anything.


And I believe you are right. One can never be sure. It's just as I would
like it to be. The mystical ideas about dying and reporting to God and
getting another task on earth, simply make me feel tired. I am tired of
suffering all my life and I do not want more of the same. I want to
remain
dead, flat dead.


I'm just not going to try and guess what 'comes after' or how, or if, I'll
feel about things then.

I am not going to try either. What will come, will come.
--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial
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