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28 Apr 2006 10:32:43 AM |
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Depression a metobalic disorder? |
First of all I am not a doctor. I am a pilot by profession. 5 years ago
I was struct down with panic attacks, followed by a major depressive
episode, which the doctors took 3 years to figure out the medicines
that helped me.
Please bare with me on this, From the research I have done ( had to
take things into my own hands to get better) Depresson panic attacks my
be a metobolic disorder. please refer to
http://www.indstate.edu/thcme/mwking/catecholamine-metabolism.jpg to
prove my point.
I am not going to go into a lot af details, I believe in not forcing my
opinions on people whom dont wish to listen. However if you look at the
above and the metabolics of tryptifan ( not from turkeys ) you will see
the neurotransmitters that a depressed mind needs.
I was on 250mg of zoloft, 300mg effexor xr, 900 mg of lithium ( yes uni
polar), I am now off of these, and except for some (swiss cheese
memory) have felt better than I have in a long long time.
I have been diagnost with a metabolic disorder, however taking some
glp-1 and getting my thyroid under control
what if my metobolic disorder was responsible for my depression,
panic. what if an abundance of yeast, (by - product or dieing off) was
helping to feed my panic.
I believe it is time to think out of the box, and get better. Help your
body help you, talk to you DR if they dont want to listen find a new
doc.
get better
( no I am not selling anything) I want to help people that have gone
through or are going throgh the same thing I went through. Death isnt
the only way out of this trust me.
I welcome any email supporting or if anyone needs help. Email me at
help@cheeperstuff.com
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| User: "cal" |
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| Title: Re: Depression a metobalic disorder? |
28 Apr 2006 11:23:27 AM |
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wrote:
First of all I am not a doctor. I am a pilot by profession. 5 years ago
I was struct down with panic attacks, followed by a major depressive
episode, which the doctors took 3 years to figure out the medicines
that helped me.
Please bare with me on this
that's pretty bold on a first date. but i'll bear with you if you want.
do you like bears?
miss jane: jethro, do you like kipling?
jethro: i dunno, ma'am... ah ain't never kippled!
miss jane: oh, woo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo. ahem.
I was on 250mg of zoloft, 300mg effexor xr, 900 mg of lithium ( yes uni
polar), I am now off of these, and except for some (swiss cheese
memory) have felt better than I have in a long long time.
I have been diagnost with a metabolic disorder, however taking some
glp-1 and getting my thyroid under control
my thyroid was removed 4 years ago, after an egg-sized tumor was found
in it (almost accidentally) that might have impaired its function for
decades. it took about a year after surgery for the replacement
medication to stabilize at the right dose for me, but since then i've
been more stable than i was before. certainly not cured of all that
ails me, but better.
what if my metobolic disorder was responsible for my depression,
panic. what if an abundance of yeast, (by - product or dieing off) was
helping to feed my panic.
there's probably something to that, and it could be the whole story for
you, and great if it is, but it's not going to be the whole story for
everyone. some metabolic disorders are hard to detect and treat. the
border between physiological and psychological is porous, and trying to
treat a psychological disorder with metabolic remedy would have to be
at least as unproductive as treating a metabolic disorder with
psychotherapy and antidepressants. i think it's a tough call in most
cases.
I believe it is time to think out of the box, and get better. Help your
body help you, talk to you DR if they dont want to listen find a new
doc.
i'm all for thinking outside the box and seeing the best doctors we can
find, but i'd caution people against wandering away into the jungle of
poorly-regulated homeopathic products and practitioners. i've seen
people do this, desperate for improvement, and in the best case all
that happens is that they waste a lot of money.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Depression a metobalic disorder? |
28 Apr 2006 11:39:22 AM |
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what if my metobolic disorder was responsible for my depression,
panic. what if an abundance of yeast, (by - product or dieing off) was
helping to feed my panic.
there's probably something to that, and it could be the whole story for
you, and great if it is, but it's not going to be the whole story for
everyone. some metabolic disorders are hard to detect and treat. the
border between physiological and psychological is porous, and trying to
treat a psychological disorder with metabolic remedy would have to be
at least as unproductive as treating a metabolic disorder with
psychotherapy and antidepressants. i think it's a tough call in most
cases.
Very good point, however last time i checked the body and brain are in
the same vessle, one definatly has an effect on the other. I also
agree with you on the "it isnt for everyone" I truely believe this,
however the things you can do for yourself to help, are non evasive and
can have a great impact on the outcome of your health and state of mind
Free your mind you body will follow, add to that help your body to free
your mind.
As far as the homeopathics, For years and years, western medicine poo
poohed the idea of accupuncter, "it is all smoke and mirors" now they
know that it works, they dont know how it works but it works.
Yes I believe there are alot of snake oil salesman out there, and one
has to do their own research, however the human body is an amazing
thing when it is inbalance, out of balance you can find your self going
down and down. heal the body get back into balance and it will fix
itself.
I believe it was a 17th century physician that stated " the physicains
job is to entertain the patient, while nature heals"
Believe or dont, it is upto you, Like i said in my first post I am not
selling anything...... it is your life, and there is no reset button,
you get to go around once make the best of it.......
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| User: "pinetree5" |
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| Title: Re: Depression a metobalic disorder? |
28 Apr 2006 12:12:13 PM |
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I agree that metabolism plays a big part. I have been obese for most of my
life. Last year I started on the Atkins diet, and lost almost a 100 lbs.
Atkins advocates fat instead of carbs. For me the sea saw effect of carb
binging, and hyperinsulinism had a really bad effect on my bipolar disorder.
I do however still believe in medication. I am one of those within 10
minutes of becoming manic I loose reality and am psychotic, not dangerous
just stupid with my logic.
I also found the only way to get better was to take charge of my disability
and treatment. I am an engineer by trade, and that has helped me.
Thank you for posting, I have been lurking here for some time.
--
You can take the sailor from the sea, but
you can never take the sea from the sailor
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what if my metobolic disorder was responsible for my depression,
panic. what if an abundance of yeast, (by - product or dieing off) was
helping to feed my panic.
there's probably something to that, and it could be the whole story for
you, and great if it is, but it's not going to be the whole story for
everyone. some metabolic disorders are hard to detect and treat. the
border between physiological and psychological is porous, and trying to
treat a psychological disorder with metabolic remedy would have to be
at least as unproductive as treating a metabolic disorder with
psychotherapy and antidepressants. i think it's a tough call in most
cases.
Very good point, however last time i checked the body and brain are in
the same vessle, one definatly has an effect on the other. I also
agree with you on the "it isnt for everyone" I truely believe this,
however the things you can do for yourself to help, are non evasive and
can have a great impact on the outcome of your health and state of mind
Free your mind you body will follow, add to that help your body to free
your mind.
As far as the homeopathics, For years and years, western medicine poo
poohed the idea of accupuncter, "it is all smoke and mirors" now they
know that it works, they dont know how it works but it works.
Yes I believe there are alot of snake oil salesman out there, and one
has to do their own research, however the human body is an amazing
thing when it is inbalance, out of balance you can find your self going
down and down. heal the body get back into balance and it will fix
itself.
I believe it was a 17th century physician that stated " the physicains
job is to entertain the patient, while nature heals"
Believe or dont, it is upto you, Like i said in my first post I am not
selling anything...... it is your life, and there is no reset button,
you get to go around once make the best of it.......
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| User: "Gayle" |
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| Title: Re: Depression a metobalic disorder? |
28 Apr 2006 10:56:39 AM |
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wrote:
First of all I am not a doctor. I am a pilot by profession. 5 years ago
I was struct down with panic attacks, followed by a major depressive
episode, which the doctors took 3 years to figure out the medicines
that helped me.
Did the fact that you were on meds
impact your employment as a pilot? Just
curious.
Gayle
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Depression a metobalic disorder? |
28 Apr 2006 11:06:25 AM |
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yes I had to make a decision on weather to live or fly, so yes I lost
my flying job (medical) , which is a whole other topic, THe FAA would
rather have pilots hiding the fact they are depressed, rather than
support pilots that are getting help. Never understood that. Flying was
more tahn a job or carreer for me, it was a way of life, so I have been
flying "ultralights" they dont require a medical.
So 20 years of flying went down the drain, as far as a carreer, I am
hoping to get back into it, but I think I will stick to teaching
others, may just with ground school.
Thanks for asking
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| User: "Gayle" |
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| Title: Re: Depression a metobalic disorder? |
28 Apr 2006 11:30:57 AM |
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wrote:
yes I had to make a decision on weather to live or fly, so yes I lost
my flying job (medical) , which is a whole other topic, THe FAA would
rather have pilots hiding the fact they are depressed, rather than
support pilots that are getting help. Never understood that. Flying was
more tahn a job or carreer for me, it was a way of life, so I have been
flying "ultralights" they dont require a medical.
So 20 years of flying went down the drain, as far as a carreer, I am
hoping to get back into it, but I think I will stick to teaching
others, may just with ground school.
Thanks for asking
There used to be a poster here who
wanted to fly ultralights but the meds
put the kibosh on that dream. Best of
luck with the teaching gig.
Gayle
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Depression a metobalic disorder? |
28 Apr 2006 11:41:20 AM |
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well the faa own regulations state that no medial is required for
flying ultrlights, no training is required either. THe sport pilot
either needs a medical or a valid drivers license
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| User: "Gayle" |
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28 Apr 2006 12:05:30 PM |
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well the faa own regulations state that no medial is required for
flying ultrlights, no training is required either. THe sport pilot
either needs a medical or a valid drivers license
Hmmm, maybe he was mistaken. I'll pass
that info along to him. Thanks!
Gayle
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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| Title: Re: Depression a metobalic disorder? |
28 Apr 2006 10:29:25 PM |
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On 28 Apr 2006 09:06:25 -0700, wrote:
yes I had to make a decision on weather to live or fly, so yes I lost
my flying job (medical) , which is a whole other topic, THe FAA would
rather have pilots hiding the fact they are depressed, rather than
support pilots that are getting help. Never understood that. Flying was
more tahn a job or carreer for me, it was a way of life, so I have been
flying "ultralights" they dont require a medical.
I have never understood that either. It seems to me that many pilots just
pick a private doctor and pay cash for the visit as well as the
prescriptions.
--
EXPERIENCE, n. The wisdom that enables us to recognize as an undesirable
old acquaintance the folly that we have already embraced.
- Ambrose Bierce
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Depression a metobalic disorder? |
05 May 2006 12:55:32 PM |
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you are correct, the problem I had with trying that was the 250,000
dollar fine and the 5 years in prison. Not very apealling
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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06 May 2006 03:23:15 AM |
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On 5 May 2006 10:55:32 -0700, wrote:
you are correct, the problem I had with trying that was the 250,000
dollar fine and the 5 years in prison. Not very apealling
How could you get caught? Does the FAA mandate urine tests for all
psychotropic drugs?
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Why isn't the word "gullible" in the dictionary?
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