Is anyone watching this show? It's got Michael from Six Feet Under and it's
about a serial killer who only targets bad guys. It's soooo good.
Jean
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14 Nov 2007 02:45:34 PM |
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"Luna" <lunajean@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Is anyone watching this show? It's got Michael from Six Feet Under and
it's
about a serial killer who only targets bad guys. It's soooo good.
Jean
My best friend really likes this show. He's described it to me, and it
sounds creepily fascinating, so I've been downloading all of them since the
beginning of the first season. I haven't watched any of them yet but I've
been meaning to. On a scale of one to ten, how creeped out am I going to
get? Is there enough humour in it to make the creep factor bearable?
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| User: "Luna" |
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14 Nov 2007 03:07:22 PM |
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"bunbun" <bunny@blarg.net> wrote in message
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"Luna" <lunajean@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Is anyone watching this show? It's got Michael from Six Feet Under and
it's
about a serial killer who only targets bad guys. It's soooo good.
Jean
My best friend really likes this show. He's described it to me, and it
sounds creepily fascinating, so I've been downloading all of them since
the
beginning of the first season. I haven't watched any of them yet but I've
been meaning to. On a scale of one to ten, how creeped out am I going to
get? Is there enough humour in it to make the creep factor bearable?
It's really not about the violence. The violence is probably a 60 second
interlude in every hour long show. Because Dexter, Mr. Serial Killer, only
targets the scum of the earth, he's eerily likable. Not even eerily, he IS
likable. And of course, it stars Michael C. Hall of Six Feet Under fame.
It's amazing how he went from believably gay to believably psychopathic
hetero. The other characters on the show are simply delicious. It's the
best show on tv right now. Dexter also narrates.
Oh my god, you have so much to live for! Downloaded and waiting? I envy
you.
You must watch it and then return so we can dissect. I thought Gayle would
be in on this too. This is so right up her alley.
Jean
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| User: "bunbun" |
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15 Nov 2007 10:07:07 AM |
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"Luna" <lunajean@gmail.com> wrote
It's really not about the violence. The violence is probably a 60 second
interlude in every hour long show. Because Dexter, Mr. Serial Killer,
only
targets the scum of the earth, he's eerily likable. Not even eerily, he
IS
likable. And of course, it stars Michael C. Hall of Six Feet Under fame.
It's amazing how he went from believably gay to believably psychopathic
hetero. The other characters on the show are simply delicious. It's the
best show on tv right now. Dexter also narrates.
I watched the pilot episode! It was undescribably delicious!
Oh my god, you have so much to live for! Downloaded and waiting? I envy
you.
You did not lie to me. After just one show and partway into the second
episode, I see what you mean. I had forgotten stuff that my friend had told
me about it, but when I saw some scenes, it came back to me, and I
understood why he was telling me about these scenes, because wow. The Code
of Harry? The dad with the boy he loves, coming to understand what he is
and how to see him through it? Oh. My. God. And the sister! The
girlfriend! The cop who instinctively loathes and distrusts him! I see
what you mean about the other characters; it was just one hour and yet the
hits just kept on coming.
You must watch it and then return so we can dissect. I thought Gayle
would
be in on this too. This is so right up her alley.
This is just so, so good. Dogs don't like me...oh my god! So many lines
that are so funny when they just pop up unexpectedly and barely give you
time to contemplate the meaning before they hit you with a new line of
thought...about the nature of a sociopath, for the love of bog. A sociopath
who was given love too late, but maybe just in time to salvage something.
No, wait, he's a serial killer! There's no salvaging that! But...crap,
this show is good.
Anything that gives me the excuse to talk to the uber-fabulosity that is The
Gayle is unambiguously a good thing. I guess I have a lot of watching to do
to catch up!
Thank you Lunatunagirl!
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14 Nov 2007 03:16:05 PM |
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"Luna" <lunajean@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"bunbun" <bunny@blarg.net> wrote in message
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"Luna" <lunajean@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:45H_i.208205$Da.131996@pd7urf1no...
Is anyone watching this show? It's got Michael from Six Feet Under
and
it's
about a serial killer who only targets bad guys. It's soooo good.
Jean
My best friend really likes this show. He's described it to me, and
it
sounds creepily fascinating, so I've been downloading all of them
since
the
beginning of the first season. I haven't watched any of them yet
but I've
been meaning to. On a scale of one to ten, how creeped out am I
going to
get? Is there enough humour in it to make the creep factor
bearable?
It's really not about the violence. The violence is probably a 60
second
interlude in every hour long show. Because Dexter, Mr. Serial Killer,
only
targets the scum of the earth, he's eerily likable. Not even eerily,
he IS
likable. And of course, it stars Michael C. Hall of Six Feet Under
fame.
It's amazing how he went from believably gay to believably
psychopathic
hetero. The other characters on the show are simply delicious. It's
the
best show on tv right now. Dexter also narrates.
Oh my god, you have so much to live for! Downloaded and waiting? I
envy
you.
You must watch it and then return so we can dissect. I thought Gayle
would
be in on this too. This is so right up her alley.
Jean
i bet the womam i live with watches it ,
she watches most of the same shows the women here watch
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14 Nov 2007 03:56:59 PM |
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:07:22 +0000, Luna wrote:
It's amazing how he went from believably gay to believably psychopathic
hetero.
Being able to distinguish between right and wrong he is, by definition,
not a psychopath... if that matters to anyone. A serial killer who targets
his victims based on a quantification of morality would have a difficult
time pleading insanity.
Sounds like an interesting basis for a character though... perhaps I
should check it out.
Anyone seen Mr. Brooks? I thought it was very well done.
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| User: "Luna" |
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14 Nov 2007 04:23:48 PM |
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"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:07:22 +0000, Luna wrote:
It's amazing how he went from believably gay to believably psychopathic
hetero.
Being able to distinguish between right and wrong he is, by definition,
not a psychopath... if that matters to anyone. A serial killer who targets
his victims based on a quantification of morality would have a difficult
time pleading insanity.
Psychopaths aren't insane.
I think psychopaths know the difference between right and wrong, they just
don't care. Isn't that why they make such great life insurance salesmen?
Rejection doesn't hurt them either.
Sounds like an interesting basis for a character though... perhaps I
should check it out.
You should, the show is a lot of fun - Sundays on Showtime.
Anyone seen Mr. Brooks? I thought it was very well done.
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| User: "Ivan Marsh" |
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14 Nov 2007 04:39:38 PM |
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:23:48 +0000, Luna wrote:
"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.11.14.21.56.59.266888@you.now...
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:07:22 +0000, Luna wrote:
It's amazing how he went from believably gay to believably
psychopathic hetero.
Being able to distinguish between right and wrong he is, by definition,
not a psychopath... if that matters to anyone. A serial killer who
targets his victims based on a quantification of morality would have a
difficult time pleading insanity.
Psychopaths aren't insane.
I think psychopaths know the difference between right and wrong, they
just don't care.
Well... yes. They are familiar with the concept but internally they have
nothing guiding their actions based on their societal understanding of
right and wrong.
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| User: "slunky" |
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14 Nov 2007 04:42:41 PM |
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_/ Luna <lunajean@gmail.com> wrote \_
Psychopaths aren't insane.
I think psychopaths know the difference between right and wrong, they just
don't care. Isn't that why they make such great life insurance salesmen?
Rejection doesn't hurt them either.
Right. You don't have to be insane to qualify as a psychopath (which is
a term no longer used. It's been replaced with the term sociopath.)
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| User: "%" |
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14 Nov 2007 04:42:11 PM |
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"slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote in message
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_/ Luna <lunajean@gmail.com> wrote \_
Psychopaths aren't insane.
I think psychopaths know the difference between right and wrong,
they just
don't care. Isn't that why they make such great life insurance
salesmen?
Rejection doesn't hurt them either.
Right. You don't have to be insane to qualify as a psychopath (which
is
a term no longer used. It's been replaced with the term sociopath.)
--
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even if they are 2 seperate disorders
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14 Nov 2007 04:45:53 PM |
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_/ % <persent@gmail.com> wrote \_
even if they are 2 seperate disorders
It's the same disorder for both. Antisocial personality disorder.
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| User: "%" |
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14 Nov 2007 04:47:06 PM |
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"slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote in message
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_/ % <persent@gmail.com> wrote \_
even if they are 2 seperate disorders
It's the same disorder for both. Antisocial personality disorder.
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i guess its just different in Canada
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14 Nov 2007 04:53:12 PM |
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_/ % <persent@gmail.com> wrote \_
i guess its just different in Canada
Could be. Do they use the DSM-IV-TR in Canada? That's what the US uses.
That says sociopathy and psycopathy are the same thing.
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| User: "%" |
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14 Nov 2007 04:54:47 PM |
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"slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote in message
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_/ % <persent@gmail.com> wrote \_
i guess its just different in Canada
Could be. Do they use the DSM-IV-TR in Canada? That's what the US
uses.
That says sociopathy and psycopathy are the same thing.
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i have no idea what they use except that they still seperate the two ,
and rightly so because they aren't the same thing
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14 Nov 2007 05:04:05 PM |
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_/ % <persent@gmail.com> wrote \_
i have no idea what they use except that they still seperate the two ,
and rightly so because they aren't the same thing
I agree. There are lots of diagnoses that should be seperated that
somehow got grouped together.
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| User: "%" |
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14 Nov 2007 05:04:36 PM |
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"slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote in message
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_/ % <persent@gmail.com> wrote \_
i have no idea what they use except that they still seperate the two
,
and rightly so because they aren't the same thing
I agree. There are lots of diagnoses that should be seperated that
somehow got grouped together.
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-slunky
everybody does everything different i guess ,
with some country's ways of managing medical health care ,
maybe its easier to say everything is the same
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14 Nov 2007 05:15:26 PM |
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_/ % <persent@gmail.com> wrote \_
everybody does everything different i guess ,
with some country's ways of managing medical health care ,
maybe its easier to say everything is the same
They have to match a code for treatment for insurance to pay for it
here, and there can only be so many codes.
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| User: "%" |
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14 Nov 2007 05:17:15 PM |
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"slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote in message
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_/ % <persent@gmail.com> wrote \_
everybody does everything different i guess ,
with some country's ways of managing medical health care ,
maybe its easier to say everything is the same
They have to match a code for treatment for insurance to pay for it
here, and there can only be so many codes.
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exactly
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14 Nov 2007 05:24:02 PM |
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_/ % <persent@gmail.com> wrote \_
exactly
and of course, you can't mix codes.
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| User: "%" |
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14 Nov 2007 05:23:56 PM |
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"slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote in message
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_/ % <persent@gmail.com> wrote \_
exactly
and of course, you can't mix codes.
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i can only imagine the outcome
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14 Nov 2007 05:35:36 PM |
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_/ % <persent@gmail.com> wrote \_
i can only imagine the outcome
The pharmacy has to call the insurance company and my doctor to be able
to give me my stomache pills because there's no code because nobody
knows what's the cause of my stomache problems.
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-slunky
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| User: "%" |
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14 Nov 2007 06:03:07 PM |
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"slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote in message
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_/ % <persent@gmail.com> wrote \_
i can only imagine the outcome
The pharmacy has to call the insurance company and my doctor to be
able
to give me my stomache pills because there's no code because nobody
knows what's the cause of my stomache problems.
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-slunky
its psychosocial
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| User: "slunky" |
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14 Nov 2007 06:08:38 PM |
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_/ % <persent@gmail.com> wrote \_
its psychosocial
I was reading something today and had to look up the word
"somatization", and I thought, is that it?
so·ma·ti·za·tion (sm-t-zshn)
n.
In psychiatry, the conversion of anxiety into physical symptoms.
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| User: "Charles" |
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14 Nov 2007 06:36:05 PM |
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On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:08:38 GMT, slunky <slunky@globalzero.org>
wrote:
_/ % <persent@gmail.com> wrote \_
its psychosocial
I was reading something today and had to look up the word
"somatization", and I thought, is that it?
so·ma·ti·za·tion (sm-t-zshn)
n.
In psychiatry, the conversion of anxiety into physical symptoms.
Might be idiopathic
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| User: "slunky" |
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14 Nov 2007 06:42:20 PM |
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_/ Charles <ckraft@SPAMTRAP.west.net> wrote \_
Might be idiopathic
That's what the doctor says. If it doesn't stop in two more months, I
have to go back and they'll stick a camera in my esophogus.
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| User: "Charles" |
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14 Nov 2007 06:45:03 PM |
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On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:42:20 GMT, slunky <slunky@globalzero.org>
wrote:
_/ Charles <ckraft@SPAMTRAP.west.net> wrote \_
Might be idiopathic
That's what the doctor says. If it doesn't stop in two more months, I
have to go back and they'll stick a camera in my esophogus.
Idiopathic is a good word, Dr. speak for "We don't know."
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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14 Nov 2007 11:51:03 PM |
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slunky wrote:
_/ % <persent@gmail.com> wrote \_
its psychosocial
I was reading something today and had to look up the word
"somatization", and I thought, is that it?
so·ma·ti·za·tion (sm-t-zshn)
n.
In psychiatry, the conversion of anxiety into physical symptoms.
Anxiety causes me to get stomach pain
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| User: "%" |
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14 Nov 2007 11:54:13 PM |
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"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
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slunky wrote:
_/ % <persent@gmail.com> wrote \_
its psychosocial
I was reading something today and had to look up the word
"somatization", and I thought, is that it?
so·ma·ti·za·tion (sm-t-zshn)
n.
In psychiatry, the conversion of anxiety into physical symptoms.
Anxiety causes me to get stomach pain
i dreammed that last night
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| User: "Luna" |
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14 Nov 2007 04:46:52 PM |
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"slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote in message
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_/ Luna <lunajean@gmail.com> wrote \_
Psychopaths aren't insane.
I think psychopaths know the difference between right and wrong, they
just
don't care. Isn't that why they make such great life insurance salesmen?
Rejection doesn't hurt them either.
Right. You don't have to be insane to qualify as a psychopath (which is
a term no longer used. It's been replaced with the term sociopath.)
They ditched psychopath for sociopath? Do you know why?
Jean
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| User: "Ivan Marsh" |
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14 Nov 2007 05:09:15 PM |
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:46:52 +0000, Luna wrote:
"slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote in message
news:slrnfjmudt.su7.slunky@evo.zero...
_/ Luna <lunajean@gmail.com> wrote \_
Psychopaths aren't insane.
I think psychopaths know the difference between right and wrong, they
just
don't care. Isn't that why they make such great life insurance
salesmen? Rejection doesn't hurt them either.
Right. You don't have to be insane to qualify as a psychopath (which is
a term no longer used. It's been replaced with the term sociopath.)
They ditched psychopath for sociopath? Do you know why?
Psychopath has a negative connotation... you can be a sociopath without
being a murderous freak. Blame Hitchcock.
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I told you this was going to happen.
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| User: "Luna" |
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14 Nov 2007 05:15:35 PM |
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"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:46:52 +0000, Luna wrote:
"slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote in message
news:slrnfjmudt.su7.slunky@evo.zero...
_/ Luna <lunajean@gmail.com> wrote \_
Psychopaths aren't insane.
I think psychopaths know the difference between right and wrong, they
just
don't care. Isn't that why they make such great life insurance
salesmen? Rejection doesn't hurt them either.
Right. You don't have to be insane to qualify as a psychopath (which is
a term no longer used. It's been replaced with the term sociopath.)
They ditched psychopath for sociopath? Do you know why?
Psychopath has a negative connotation... you can be a sociopath without
being a murderous freak. Blame Hitchcock.
Ah, that makes sense. I will adapt.
Sociopaths do make great salesmen, I wasn't kidding about that. I bet they
make superb politicians as well. Being immune to the opinions of others is
a hallmark sociopathic trait.
Jean
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