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"scaredkitty" |
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07 Apr 2005 01:05:50 AM |
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Do you ever feel |
like you'll be this way forever? Depression, agoraphobia, anxiety, panic,
insomnia--I have all of these. I'm on cymbalta, klonopin,xanax as needed
(ha-all the time). I have to find some kind of doctor, but I just moved here
and don't know anybody, or what kind of dr or what to do. I'm not suicidal
cause I just don't care-about anything. And I'm tired of whining, and
moaning and crying--Is this the rest of my life-just accept it?
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| User: "Nom dePlume nomdeplume1000-at-yahoo.com" |
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08 Apr 2005 11:32:46 PM |
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"scaredkitty" <scaredkitty@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:lsqdncwhBsh_UMnfRVn-1Q@comcast.com...
like you'll be this way forever? Depression, agoraphobia, anxiety,
panic,
insomnia--I have all of these. I'm on cymbalta, klonopin,xanax as
needed
(ha-all the time). I have to find some kind of doctor, but I just
moved here
and don't know anybody, or what kind of dr or what to do. I'm not
suicidal
cause I just don't care-about anything. And I'm tired of whining,
and
moaning and crying--Is this the rest of my life-just accept it?
You really have two choices that I can see. You can accept it, or keep
trying to find something better. The second offers no guarantee of
improvement, but the first does guarantee lack of improvement.
I've asked myself that question many times, over the last several
years, and kept coming back to the same conclusion. So I resolved I
would try all potentially relevant medications until I'd exhausted
them all, or gotten relief. To my surprise, I finally found ones that
worked, but it wasn't easy. I've tried over 20 different medications
to get where I am today, which is vastly better than I used to be.
What won't help you is stasis. What also won't help you is finding a
GP, no matter how good as a GP, to prescribe your meds. If you do want
to get better, you are going to have to accept some responsibilities
that you appear to have avoided so far. You may blame your disorders
(especially agoraphobia) for the avoidance, but the blunt truth is
that avoidance will only condemn you to more of the same. However hard
it may be, however much your body shakes or your mind whimpers in
cowering protest, you will have to get up and get out and do what it
takes.
So: Get out the Yellow Pages. Search the Web. Finding *expert*
psychiatrists who know everything there is to know about medications
for emotional disorders. (I would suggest looking at teaching
hospitals like the Harvard or Stanford Medical Schools, or whatever is
closer to you.) Find three of them this year (2005). Make appointments
to see all three. Then go see them.
How do you get there when you are agoraphobic? I don't know. It's your
job to find some way. So do it.
Write down every medication you've taken and the effects you've noted
from them. Read up on all the available psychotropic drugs (start with
my Web site, for example). Educate yourself, so you can ask the right
questions, and run your ideas by the doctors.
Get yourself checked out by an endocrinologist, if you haven't
already. Don't put it off, and don't find excuses not to.
Finally, seriously consider ECT as a treatment option. It is utterly
unlike medications, and may succeed when medications do not.
I really want you to succeed. What you have done so far hasn't worked,
and that tells you that you need to do something different. Please go
and do so.
--
Nom dePlume, Ph.D.
Why, yes, in fact, I am a rocket scientist.
Guide to Medications for Mental Illness:
http://www.geocities.com/nomdeplume1000
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| User: "Catybu" |
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| Title: Re: Do you ever feel |
07 Apr 2005 01:37:37 AM |
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"scaredkitty" <scaredkitty@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:lsqdncwhBsh_UMnfRVn-1Q@comcast.com...
like you'll be this way forever? Depression, agoraphobia, anxiety, panic,
insomnia--I have all of these. I'm on cymbalta, klonopin,xanax as needed
(ha-all the time). I have to find some kind of doctor, but I just moved
here and don't know anybody, or what kind of dr or what to do. I'm not
suicidal cause I just don't care-about anything. And I'm tired of whining,
and moaning and crying--Is this the rest of my life-just accept it?
You're not going to feel like this for the rest of your life. You will find
a med combo that works for you or at least helps you feel somewhat better.
I've been there before where I thought I would never get better and now I am
better most of the time. I still have my bad days and sometimes even weeks
but def. not as bad as before. I still believe that it will be a lifelong
battle. My first depression (as I call it) lasted about 9 months. My
second about a year. Then, I had about one year of feeling okay until this
depression started about mid-2002.
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| User: "scaredkitty" |
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| Title: Re: Do you ever feel |
07 Apr 2005 01:45:27 AM |
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"Catybu" <catybu_2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"scaredkitty" <scaredkitty@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:lsqdncwhBsh_UMnfRVn-1Q@comcast.com...
like you'll be this way forever? Depression, agoraphobia, anxiety, panic,
insomnia--I have all of these. I'm on cymbalta, klonopin,xanax as needed
(ha-all the time). I have to find some kind of doctor, but I just moved
here and don't know anybody, or what kind of dr or what to do. I'm not
suicidal cause I just don't care-about anything. And I'm tired of
whining, and moaning and crying--Is this the rest of my life-just accept
it?
You're not going to feel like this for the rest of your life. You will
find a med combo that works for you or at least helps you feel somewhat
better. I've been there before where I thought I would never get better
and now I am better most of the time. I still have my bad days and
sometimes even weeks but def. not as bad as before. I still believe that
it will be a lifelong battle. My first depression (as I call it) lasted
about 9 months. My second about a year. Then, I had about one year of
feeling okay until this depression started about mid-2002.
I have been depressed my whole life (I'm 55) I never go to drs-the
one prescribing my meds now is someone I saw 30 yrs ago for migraines-he is
primarily a neurologist. I am so imobilized and isolated, I don't even know
where to start looking for a dr. I'm ready to give up-this NG is the only
support I have, and most days I don't even have energy to post. But I am
TIRED of being this way, I know I have to do something--I'm just lost
k
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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| Title: Re: Do you ever feel |
07 Apr 2005 01:53:40 AM |
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scaredkitty wrote...
I have been depressed my whole life (I'm 55) I never
go to drs-the
one prescribing my meds now is someone I saw 30 yrs ago for
migraines-he is primarily a neurologist. I am so imobilized
and isolated, I don't even know where to start looking for
a dr. I'm ready to give up-this NG is the only support I
have, and most days I don't even have energy to post. But I
am TIRED of being this way, I know I have to do
something--I'm just lost
can your neurologist recommend someone where you're living now?
sounds like a good guy for you, so he might know someone of
similar temperament near you.
-lisa
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| User: "scaredkitty" |
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| Title: Re: Do you ever feel |
07 Apr 2005 02:09:31 AM |
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"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
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scaredkitty wrote...
I have been depressed my whole life (I'm 55) I never
go to drs-the
one prescribing my meds now is someone I saw 30 yrs ago for
migraines-he is primarily a neurologist. I am so imobilized
and isolated, I don't even know where to start looking for
a dr. I'm ready to give up-this NG is the only support I
have, and most days I don't even have energy to post. But I
am TIRED of being this way, I know I have to do
something--I'm just lost
can your neurologist recommend someone where you're living now?
sounds like a good guy for you, so he might know someone of
similar temperament near you.
He doesn't know of anyone-it's a small mountain area.
I'm going to tryto go to sleep now. Thank you to Juno 7,wombn, Catybu, and
especially Lisa
k
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Do you ever feel |
07 Apr 2005 07:35:07 AM |
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Cymbalta can cause insomnia, there are other more calming
anti-depressants that might be more effective. One I recently started
taking is Zoloft. Klonopin is a benzodiazapine and anti-convulsant /
mood stabalizer combined, and can cause some agitation, there may be
another choice that might be better.
Sometimes a regular physician can prescribe these types of meds. They
have the liscence to and have some psychiatric background / training,
though it may not necessarily be their specialty.
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| User: "juno 7" |
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| Title: Re: Do you ever feel |
07 Apr 2005 01:21:35 AM |
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NO - I believe we can always make life better and achieve more happiness.
"scaredkitty" <scaredkitty@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:lsqdncwhBsh_UMnfRVn-1Q@comcast.com...
like you'll be this way forever? Depression, agoraphobia, anxiety, panic,
insomnia--I have all of these. I'm on cymbalta, klonopin,xanax as needed
(ha-all the time). I have to find some kind of doctor, but I just moved
here and don't know anybody, or what kind of dr or what to do. I'm not
suicidal cause I just don't care-about anything. And I'm tired of whining,
and moaning and crying--Is this the rest of my life-just accept it?
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| User: "scaredkitty" |
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| Title: Re: Do you ever feel |
07 Apr 2005 01:29:48 AM |
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PLEASE tell me how
k
"juno 7" <oh@wellwell.com> wrote in message
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NO - I believe we can always make life better and achieve more happiness.
"scaredkitty" <scaredkitty@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:lsqdncwhBsh_UMnfRVn-1Q@comcast.com...
like you'll be this way forever? Depression, agoraphobia, anxiety, panic,
insomnia--I have all of these. I'm on cymbalta, klonopin,xanax as needed
(ha-all the time). I have to find some kind of doctor, but I just moved
here and don't know anybody, or what kind of dr or what to do. I'm not
suicidal cause I just don't care-about anything. And I'm tired of
whining, and moaning and crying--Is this the rest of my life-just accept
it?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Do you ever feel |
07 Apr 2005 09:11:44 AM |
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On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:05:50 -0700, "scaredkitty"
<scaredkitty@comcast.net> wrote:
->like you'll be this way forever? Depression, agoraphobia, anxiety, panic,
->insomnia--I have all of these. I'm on cymbalta, klonopin,xanax as needed
->(ha-all the time). I have to find some kind of doctor, but I just moved here
->and don't know anybody, or what kind of dr or what to do. I'm not suicidal
->cause I just don't care-about anything. And I'm tired of whining, and
->moaning and crying--Is this the rest of my life-just accept it?
20 years ago, I felt the same way.
I got lots of therapy, was finally diagnosed correctly and put on the
right meds. While things aren't perfect now, my despairing periods
last for hours or days, not months.
Eat a healthy diet. Make yourself eat a little something when you
have no appetite. Become creative. Develop unseen sides of yourself.
Cultivate your sense of humor. Most of life is absurd if you take
time to look at it. Laugh along with the big cosmic joke.
If my experience is of any value, then yes, it gets better.
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I've always loved me, I was just taught that I didn't.
- %
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| User: "wombn" |
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| Title: Re: Do you ever feel |
07 Apr 2005 01:32:54 AM |
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On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:05:50 -0700, "scaredkitty"
<scaredkitty@comcast.net> wrote:
like you'll be this way forever? Depression, agoraphobia, anxiety, panic,
insomnia--I have all of these. I'm on cymbalta, klonopin,xanax as needed
(ha-all the time). I have to find some kind of doctor, but I just moved here
and don't know anybody, or what kind of dr or what to do. I'm not suicidal
cause I just don't care-about anything. And I'm tired of whining, and
moaning and crying--Is this the rest of my life-just accept it?
no, it's not. Keep searching. And also keep looking for those good
moments when they do flit by. Write them down so you can read them at
times like this and remember that it's not *always* and not *forever*.
It's hard to remember the good moments when you're in the pit.
--
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If laughter is the best medicine,
then kittens should be covered by our health insurance. :-)
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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07 Apr 2005 01:34:09 AM |
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scaredkitty wrote...
like you'll be this way forever? Depression, agoraphobia,
anxiety, panic, insomnia--I have all of these. I'm on
cymbalta, klonopin,xanax as needed (ha-all the time). I
have to find some kind of doctor, but I just moved here and
don't know anybody, or what kind of dr or what to do. I'm
not suicidal cause I just don't care-about anything. And
I'm tired of whining, and moaning and crying--Is this the
rest of my life-just accept it?
all i've got for psych stuff (at the moment) is depression and
insomnia. i'm hoping that the insomnia will clear up
eventually. i'm on parnate, lamictal, and abilify. also
temazepam and/or seroquel for sleep. and some heavy narcotics
for a pain disorder.
i figure the depression is permanent at this point. the only
drug that's really worked seems to be pooping out on me, and
there aren't any other meds to try. i won't do ect again
unless it's a real long-term crisis. it's been 7 years since i
was last in that state, though.
sorry you're going through this. you need to find a primary
physician where you live, anyway. that's a start. when you
find someone who you can deal with for regular medical stuff,
ask for a recommendation for a good pdoc. you'll at least want
someone to monitor your psych meds occasionally, anyway, and
write new scripts. if you want a therp, ask the pdoc. after
all, you need to put together a team of docs who'll be willing
to talk to each other, anyway.
this has got to be awful with your agoraphobia, but you are
going to need a doctor. and it's got to be someone you can
work with comfortably, so it may take a few tries to find
someone. sorry i can't help more. maybe you can find the right
practitioners, though, who can tweak your meds enough to give
you some more comfort, if not a cure. i hope so.
-lisa
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| User: "Noon Cat Nick" |
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07 Apr 2005 05:05:25 AM |
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"lisa in mass." wrote:
all i've got for psych stuff (at the moment) is depression and
insomnia. i'm hoping that the insomnia will clear up
eventually. i'm on parnate, lamictal, and abilify. also
temazepam and/or seroquel for sleep. and some heavy narcotics
for a pain disorder.
i figure the depression is permanent at this point. the only
drug that's really worked seems to be pooping out on me, and
there aren't any other meds to try. i won't do ect again
unless it's a real long-term crisis. it's been 7 years since i
was last in that state, though.
Have you tried either Nardil or Marplan? They're MAOIs as well.
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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07 Apr 2005 02:39:12 PM |
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Noon Cat Nick wrote...
"lisa in mass." wrote:
all i've got for psych stuff (at the moment) is depression
and insomnia. i'm hoping that the insomnia will clear up
eventually. i'm on parnate, lamictal, and abilify. also
temazepam and/or seroquel for sleep. and some heavy
narcotics for a pain disorder.
i figure the depression is permanent at this point. the
only drug that's really worked seems to be pooping out on
me, and there aren't any other meds to try. i won't do ect
again unless it's a real long-term crisis. it's been 7
years since i was last in that state, though.
Have you tried either Nardil or Marplan? They're MAOIs as
well.
haven't tried nardil. docs were worried about the increased
side-effects, but it would be worth a shot. never heard of
marplan.
-lisa
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