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06 Nov 2006 01:29:55 AM |
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Does depression cause PERMANENT brain damage? |
First of all, I just want to thank in advance to all those people who
have taken their time to read this post. I have been going through
stages of depression for the last six months. I'm actually not sure how
long i've been experiencing depression, however, it hasn't been too
long. I always considered myself as one of those normal people that
will never experience depression. As a matter of fact, I would consider
people who used to claim that they had depression were simply in need
of attention. However, I realized that is not the case. More
importantly besides having all the symptoms of depression, I am having
severe memory loss issues. I am not too concerned with the fact that i
no longer enjoy doing the things i use to enjoy doing, etc. This
depression has seriously began affecting my work performance as well as
school performance. I can no longer remember anything!!!! Slowly my
self esteem has been dropped. I can no longer grasp concepts,
concentrate, or even communicate effectively with managers, team
leaders. professors. My vocabulary has is not close to how it was.
Honestly, it's even difficult to have conversations with friends, which
i've never had a problem with. I can;t even recall anymore whether or
not i'm using correct grammer, etc. My attention span is like a 5 yr
old's and im in the mid twenties.
My reason for writing this post is due to a desperate need for answers.
I will not take anti-depressant pills or go see a doctor. I have been
considering suicide due to this feeling of stupidity. I have never been
suicidal in my life and am finding it difficult to bear with. My
questions only pertain to whether or not i will ever recover from my
current situation. IF so, how can I prevent any future damage and what
solutions do you guys recommend for me to recover. Any feedback will be
greatly appreciated. Unfortunately, I cant seek help elsewhere, due to
my stubbornness and pride. Thanks again in advance!!
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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06 Nov 2006 10:04:22 AM |
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<kenny.kim@cox.net> wrote in message
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First of all, I just want to thank in advance to all those people who
have taken their time to read this post. I have been going through
stages of depression for the last six months. I'm actually not sure how
long i've been experiencing depression, however, it hasn't been too
long. I always considered myself as one of those normal people that
will never experience depression. As a matter of fact, I would consider
people who used to claim that they had depression were simply in need
of attention. However, I realized that is not the case. More
importantly besides having all the symptoms of depression, I am having
severe memory loss issues. I am not too concerned with the fact that i
no longer enjoy doing the things i use to enjoy doing, etc. This
depression has seriously began affecting my work performance as well as
school performance. I can no longer remember anything!!!! Slowly my
self esteem has been dropped. I can no longer grasp concepts,
concentrate, or even communicate effectively with managers, team
leaders. professors. My vocabulary has is not close to how it was.
Honestly, it's even difficult to have conversations with friends, which
i've never had a problem with. I can;t even recall anymore whether or
not i'm using correct grammer, etc. My attention span is like a 5 yr
old's and im in the mid twenties.
My reason for writing this post is due to a desperate need for answers.
I will not take anti-depressant pills or go see a doctor. I have been
considering suicide due to this feeling of stupidity. I have never been
suicidal in my life and am finding it difficult to bear with. My
questions only pertain to whether or not i will ever recover from my
current situation. IF so, how can I prevent any future damage and what
solutions do you guys recommend for me to recover. Any feedback will be
greatly appreciated. Unfortunately, I cant seek help elsewhere, due to
my stubbornness and pride. Thanks again in advance!!
Did you know the clinical definition of insanity is repeating the same
behaviour over and over and expecting a different result each time? In
other words, if what you've done and what you're doing isn't working, it is
likely to stay that way. The time has come for a new approach.
My questions only pertain to whether or not i will ever recover from my
current situation
Probably not anymore successfully than you could recover from cancer without
seeing a doctor or taking chemotherapy. I don't know what it is about
people that leads them to believe that illnesses of the mind are any
different than illnesses of the body and they can somehow be willed away if
one just thinks on it long enough and hard enough, but they aren't, and you
can't, and if you want to help yourself you had better get over whatever it
is that prevents you from seeking treatment.
You could start with your family doctor. Have a physical to rule out a
medical problem. Ask him about herbal remedies such as St. John's Wort
which can successfully treat *mild* depression while keeping in mind that if
you're feeling sucidal your depression isn't mild.
Someone suggested exercise which is a good place to start. I do a lot of
walking. I am not into anything high impact but I walk about two miles a
day now, sometimes more, and have noticed a huge improvement in moods. I
should add that I also see a shrink and a therapist and I take medication,
which is how I got off my ***** and outside walking in the first place. Prior
to that I was too sick to do anything.
Structure is really important. Eat three times a day, preferably at the
same times every day, sleep at least eight hours, force yourself to shower
and shave and get dressed and do what needs to be done on a regular basis,
even when or especially when you don't feel like doing it.
Other than that I haven't much else to offer and again I must stress that
suicidal ideation is a sign of serious depression. I can't imagine anyone
choosing to die rather than seek medical help, but that's me, so we may have
to part company on that subject. I hope you'll reconsider that decision.
Best of luck to you.
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Rhi
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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06 Nov 2006 05:04:39 PM |
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wrote:
First of all, I just want to thank in advance to all those people who
have taken their time to read this post. I have been going through
stages of depression for the last six months. I'm actually not sure how
long i've been experiencing depression, however, it hasn't been too
long. I always considered myself as one of those normal people that
will never experience depression. As a matter of fact, I would consider
people who used to claim that they had depression were simply in need
of attention. However, I realized that is not the case. More
importantly besides having all the symptoms of depression, I am having
severe memory loss issues. I am not too concerned with the fact that i
no longer enjoy doing the things i use to enjoy doing, etc. This
depression has seriously began affecting my work performance as well as
school performance. I can no longer remember anything!!!! Slowly my
self esteem has been dropped. I can no longer grasp concepts,
concentrate, or even communicate effectively with managers, team
leaders. professors. My vocabulary has is not close to how it was.
Honestly, it's even difficult to have conversations with friends, which
i've never had a problem with. I can;t even recall anymore whether or
not i'm using correct grammer, etc. My attention span is like a 5 yr
old's and im in the mid twenties.
My reason for writing this post is due to a desperate need for answers.
I will not take anti-depressant pills or go see a doctor. I have been
considering suicide due to this feeling of stupidity. I have never been
suicidal in my life and am finding it difficult to bear with. My
questions only pertain to whether or not i will ever recover from my
current situation. IF so, how can I prevent any future damage and what
solutions do you guys recommend for me to recover. Any feedback will be
greatly appreciated. Unfortunately, I cant seek help elsewhere, due to
my stubbornness and pride. Thanks again in advance!!
Sounds like you've got some big problems and are thoroughly resolved to
take no action. Think it'll work?
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| User: "" |
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07 Nov 2006 03:15:19 PM |
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Sounds like you've got some big problems and are thoroughly resolved to
take no action. Think it'll work?
Thanks everyone for your feedback. i honestly dont know any
pyschiatrist or have the money to go see one. I heard it can be very
costly to go see a doctor and then have medication. Per the above
replies, will working out and eating healthy really make a difference
in my situation?
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| User: "cal" |
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07 Nov 2006 08:31:39 PM |
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<kenny.kim@cox.net> wrote in message
news:1162934119.363510.107240@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Sounds like you've got some big problems and are thoroughly resolved to
take no action. Think it'll work?
Thanks everyone for your feedback. i honestly dont know any
pyschiatrist or have the money to go see one. I heard it can be very
costly to go see a doctor and then have medication. Per the above
replies, will working out and eating healthy really make a difference
in my situation?
quite likely, if you can get yourself to do it. combination of endorphins,
good nutrition, looking fit, and a morale boost from virtuous living can go
a long way. but depression can stop you from doing good things for yourself,
and that makes it a vicious circle.
if you can't get therapy and the usual meds, you could investigate
non-prescription herbal alternatives like st. john's wort. some people have
good results with that. but before you give up on the therapy/meds route,
check it out. talk to your doctor. there might be ways to get them
affordably that you're not aware of yet.
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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08 Nov 2006 12:29:33 AM |
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wrote:
Sounds like you've got some big problems and are thoroughly resolved to
take no action. Think it'll work?
Thanks everyone for your feedback. i honestly dont know any
pyschiatrist or have the money to go see one. I heard it can be very
costly to go see a doctor and then have medication. Per the above
replies, will working out and eating healthy really make a difference
in my situation?
There are lots of resources available. For instance in my area there is
a mental health clinic that offers therapy at $6/session and every month
you can see a psychiatrist for medication management at the same price.
There are an incredibly large number of groups/drug companies that offer
their products for free or at incredible discounts. One great place to
research these is at www.pparx.org
There's a lot of help out there and working out, eating healthy is a
good idea regardless.
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| User: "" |
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07 Nov 2006 03:15:46 PM |
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Sounds like you've got some big problems and are thoroughly resolved to
take no action. Think it'll work?
Thanks everyone for your feedback. i honestly dont know any
pyschiatrist or have the money to go see one. I heard it can be very
costly to go see a doctor and then have medication. Per the above
replies, will working out and eating healthy really make a difference
in my situation?
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| User: "" |
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07 Nov 2006 09:26:54 PM |
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wrote:
Sounds like you've got some big problems and are thoroughly resolved to
take no action. Think it'll work?
Thanks everyone for your feedback. i honestly dont know any
pyschiatrist or have the money to go see one. I heard it can be very
costly to go see a doctor and then have medication. Per the above
replies, will working out and eating healthy really make a difference
in my situation?
It may or may not. It will probably help some, it would help anyone. As
to whether it's enough to keep from falling into the pit, I doubt it,
based on your earlier descriptions of how it's been going.
There has been some success with Neuralingual repatterning, but it's
hard to last it out.
I'd get to a DR if I were you. In the US there are clinics that will
take you.
Bobbie
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| User: "Charles" |
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07 Nov 2006 03:27:14 PM |
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On 7 Nov 2006 13:15:46 -0800, wrote:
Sounds like you've got some big problems and are thoroughly resolved to
take no action. Think it'll work?
Thanks everyone for your feedback. i honestly dont know any
pyschiatrist or have the money to go see one. I heard it can be very
costly to go see a doctor and then have medication. Per the above
replies, will working out and eating healthy really make a difference
in my situation?
It might, and it is a good idea even if it doesn't fix the depression.
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| User: "" |
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06 Nov 2006 03:13:04 PM |
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wrote:
First of all, I just want to thank in advance to all those people who
have taken their time to read this post. I have been going through
stages of depression for the last six months. I'm actually not sure how
long i've been experiencing depression, however, it hasn't been too
long. I always considered myself as one of those normal people that
will never experience depression. As a matter of fact, I would consider
people who used to claim that they had depression were simply in need
of attention. However, I realized that is not the case. More
importantly besides having all the symptoms of depression, I am having
severe memory loss issues. I am not too concerned with the fact that i
no longer enjoy doing the things i use to enjoy doing, etc. This
depression has seriously began affecting my work performance as well as
school performance. I can no longer remember anything!!!! Slowly my
self esteem has been dropped. I can no longer grasp concepts,
concentrate, or even communicate effectively with managers, team
leaders. professors. My vocabulary has is not close to how it was.
Honestly, it's even difficult to have conversations with friends, which
i've never had a problem with. I can;t even recall anymore whether or
not i'm using correct grammer, etc. My attention span is like a 5 yr
old's and im in the mid twenties.
My reason for writing this post is due to a desperate need for answers.
I will not take anti-depressant pills or go see a doctor. I have been
considering suicide due to this feeling of stupidity. I have never been
suicidal in my life and am finding it difficult to bear with. My
questions only pertain to whether or not i will ever recover from my
current situation. IF so, how can I prevent any future damage and what
solutions do you guys recommend for me to recover. Any feedback will be
greatly appreciated. Unfortunately, I cant seek help elsewhere, due to
my stubbornness and pride. Thanks again in advance!!
How about going to a therapist, as soon as possible? I can
tell you for certain that a therapist can be enormously helpful,
provided that it's the "right" therapist for you(not by any means a
gauarantee. some therapists can be quite rude. ) you can discuss all
your fears, reservations and concerns about meds with him/her... taking
meds is nothing to be nothing to be ashamed of... As Tara has pointed
out, if you had a physical illness, you would take meds, the same can
apply when dealing with psychological illness... If your fears have to
do with being stigmatized, I can definatly relate... I used to worry a
great deal about being labeled and stigmatized... I still do, but not
quite as much as I used to... There is no question that depression can
severely decrease funtioning in many ways, intellectually, physically,
mentally, emotionally etc... but meds often do make a huge
differance... they don't work for everyone, but they do work for a
great number of people, often in combination with therapy... best
wishes to you...
-"Jordy".
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| User: "%" |
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06 Nov 2006 03:17:46 PM |
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<Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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kenny.kim@cox.net wrote:
First of all, I just want to thank in advance to all those people who
have taken their time to read this post. I have been going through
stages of depression for the last six months. I'm actually not sure how
long i've been experiencing depression, however, it hasn't been too
long. I always considered myself as one of those normal people that
will never experience depression. As a matter of fact, I would consider
people who used to claim that they had depression were simply in need
of attention. However, I realized that is not the case. More
importantly besides having all the symptoms of depression, I am having
severe memory loss issues. I am not too concerned with the fact that i
no longer enjoy doing the things i use to enjoy doing, etc. This
depression has seriously began affecting my work performance as well as
school performance. I can no longer remember anything!!!! Slowly my
self esteem has been dropped. I can no longer grasp concepts,
concentrate, or even communicate effectively with managers, team
leaders. professors. My vocabulary has is not close to how it was.
Honestly, it's even difficult to have conversations with friends, which
i've never had a problem with. I can;t even recall anymore whether or
not i'm using correct grammer, etc. My attention span is like a 5 yr
old's and im in the mid twenties.
My reason for writing this post is due to a desperate need for answers.
I will not take anti-depressant pills or go see a doctor. I have been
considering suicide due to this feeling of stupidity. I have never been
suicidal in my life and am finding it difficult to bear with. My
questions only pertain to whether or not i will ever recover from my
current situation. IF so, how can I prevent any future damage and what
solutions do you guys recommend for me to recover. Any feedback will be
greatly appreciated. Unfortunately, I cant seek help elsewhere, due to
my stubbornness and pride. Thanks again in advance!!
How about going to a therapist, as soon as possible? I can
tell you for certain that a therapist can be enormously helpful,
provided that it's the "right" therapist for you(not by any means a
gauarantee. some therapists can be quite rude. ) you can discuss all
your fears, reservations and concerns about meds with him/her... taking
meds is nothing to be nothing to be ashamed of... As Tara has pointed
out, if you had a physical illness, you would take meds, the same can
apply when dealing with psychological illness... If your fears have to
do with being stigmatized, I can definatly relate... I used to worry a
great deal about being labeled and stigmatized... I still do, but not
quite as much as I used to... There is no question that depression can
severely decrease funtioning in many ways, intellectually, physically,
mentally, emotionally etc... but meds often do make a huge
differance... they don't work for everyone, but they do work for a
great number of people, often in combination with therapy... best
wishes to you...
-"Jordy".
not to make fun but this sounds like me having a normal day
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| User: "" |
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06 Nov 2006 03:23:09 PM |
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% wrote:
<Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162847584.173478.167700@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
kenny.kim@cox.net wrote:
First of all, I just want to thank in advance to all those people who
have taken their time to read this post. I have been going through
stages of depression for the last six months. I'm actually not sure how
long i've been experiencing depression, however, it hasn't been too
long. I always considered myself as one of those normal people that
will never experience depression. As a matter of fact, I would consider
people who used to claim that they had depression were simply in need
of attention. However, I realized that is not the case. More
importantly besides having all the symptoms of depression, I am having
severe memory loss issues. I am not too concerned with the fact that i
no longer enjoy doing the things i use to enjoy doing, etc. This
depression has seriously began affecting my work performance as well as
school performance. I can no longer remember anything!!!! Slowly my
self esteem has been dropped. I can no longer grasp concepts,
concentrate, or even communicate effectively with managers, team
leaders. professors. My vocabulary has is not close to how it was.
Honestly, it's even difficult to have conversations with friends, which
i've never had a problem with. I can;t even recall anymore whether or
not i'm using correct grammer, etc. My attention span is like a 5 yr
old's and im in the mid twenties.
My reason for writing this post is due to a desperate need for answers.
I will not take anti-depressant pills or go see a doctor. I have been
considering suicide due to this feeling of stupidity. I have never been
suicidal in my life and am finding it difficult to bear with. My
questions only pertain to whether or not i will ever recover from my
current situation. IF so, how can I prevent any future damage and what
solutions do you guys recommend for me to recover. Any feedback will be
greatly appreciated. Unfortunately, I cant seek help elsewhere, due to
my stubbornness and pride. Thanks again in advance!!
How about going to a therapist, as soon as possible? I can
tell you for certain that a therapist can be enormously helpful,
provided that it's the "right" therapist for you(not by any means a
gauarantee. some therapists can be quite rude. ) you can discuss all
your fears, reservations and concerns about meds with him/her... taking
meds is nothing to be nothing to be ashamed of... As Tara has pointed
out, if you had a physical illness, you would take meds, the same can
apply when dealing with psychological illness... If your fears have to
do with being stigmatized, I can definatly relate... I used to worry a
great deal about being labeled and stigmatized... I still do, but not
quite as much as I used to... There is no question that depression can
severely decrease funtioning in many ways, intellectually, physically,
mentally, emotionally etc... but meds often do make a huge
differance... they don't work for everyone, but they do work for a
great number of people, often in combination with therapy... best
wishes to you...
-"Jordy".
not to make fun but this sounds like me having a normal day
you mean taking meds every day is normal for you? I would be happy
to take meds regularly, but I've tried a lot of them, and none have
been helpful for more then a day or so...
-"jordy"
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| User: "%" |
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06 Nov 2006 03:43:25 PM |
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<Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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% wrote:
<Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162847584.173478.167700@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
kenny.kim@cox.net wrote:
First of all, I just want to thank in advance to all those people
who
have taken their time to read this post. I have been going through
stages of depression for the last six months. I'm actually not sure
how
long i've been experiencing depression, however, it hasn't been too
long. I always considered myself as one of those normal people that
will never experience depression. As a matter of fact, I would
consider
people who used to claim that they had depression were simply in
need
of attention. However, I realized that is not the case. More
importantly besides having all the symptoms of depression, I am
having
severe memory loss issues. I am not too concerned with the fact that
i
no longer enjoy doing the things i use to enjoy doing, etc. This
depression has seriously began affecting my work performance as well
as
school performance. I can no longer remember anything!!!! Slowly my
self esteem has been dropped. I can no longer grasp concepts,
concentrate, or even communicate effectively with managers, team
leaders. professors. My vocabulary has is not close to how it was.
Honestly, it's even difficult to have conversations with friends,
which
i've never had a problem with. I can;t even recall anymore whether
or
not i'm using correct grammer, etc. My attention span is like a 5 yr
old's and im in the mid twenties.
My reason for writing this post is due to a desperate need for
answers.
I will not take anti-depressant pills or go see a doctor. I have
been
considering suicide due to this feeling of stupidity. I have never
been
suicidal in my life and am finding it difficult to bear with. My
questions only pertain to whether or not i will ever recover from my
current situation. IF so, how can I prevent any future damage and
what
solutions do you guys recommend for me to recover. Any feedback will
be
greatly appreciated. Unfortunately, I cant seek help elsewhere, due
to
my stubbornness and pride. Thanks again in advance!!
How about going to a therapist, as soon as possible? I can
tell you for certain that a therapist can be enormously helpful,
provided that it's the "right" therapist for you(not by any means a
gauarantee. some therapists can be quite rude. ) you can discuss all
your fears, reservations and concerns about meds with him/her...
taking
meds is nothing to be nothing to be ashamed of... As Tara has pointed
out, if you had a physical illness, you would take meds, the same can
apply when dealing with psychological illness... If your fears have to
do with being stigmatized, I can definatly relate... I used to worry a
great deal about being labeled and stigmatized... I still do, but not
quite as much as I used to... There is no question that depression can
severely decrease funtioning in many ways, intellectually, physically,
mentally, emotionally etc... but meds often do make a huge
differance... they don't work for everyone, but they do work for a
great number of people, often in combination with therapy... best
wishes to you...
-"Jordy".
not to make fun but this sounds like me having a normal day
you mean taking meds every day is normal for you? I would be happy
to take meds regularly, but I've tried a lot of them, and none have
been helpful for more then a day or so...
-"jordy"
no , i mean the breakdown of mental functions the other person is describing
i already take meds multiple times everyday but not for pschological reasons
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| User: "Jesters mummy" |
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06 Nov 2006 07:12:22 AM |
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On 5 Nov 2006 23:29:55 -0800, wrote:
<(((*>I will not take anti-depressant pills or go see a doctor. I have been
<(((*>considering suicide due to this feeling of stupidity.
If you keep on doing what you've always done, you're going to get what you've
always got.
If you broke your leg, would you refuse to wear a cast or go see a doctor? Right
now it's your mind that's broken. What is stopping you from asking a doctor to
help fix that?
At the very least, there are medical conditions with depression as a side
effect, and before a doctor would put you on antidepressants, these medical
conditions must be ruled out.
Even if your depression isn't caused by another condition, it doesn't
automatically mean you will need to take antidepressants. A good talk therapist
(psychologist, counsellor, etc.) can help you deal with depression. It's not an
overnight fix, but counselling does work.
And in answer to the question you posed in your subject line: Suicide causes
permanent brain damage.
Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
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| User: "charles" |
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06 Nov 2006 01:50:29 AM |
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On 5 Nov 2006 23:29:55 -0800, wrote:
First of all, I just want to thank in advance to all those people who
have taken their time to read this post. I have been going through
stages of depression for the last six months. I'm actually not sure how
long i've been experiencing depression, however, it hasn't been too
long. I always considered myself as one of those normal people that
will never experience depression. As a matter of fact, I would consider
people who used to claim that they had depression were simply in need
of attention. However, I realized that is not the case. More
importantly besides having all the symptoms of depression, I am having
severe memory loss issues. I am not too concerned with the fact that i
no longer enjoy doing the things i use to enjoy doing, etc. This
depression has seriously began affecting my work performance as well as
school performance. I can no longer remember anything!!!! Slowly my
self esteem has been dropped. I can no longer grasp concepts,
concentrate, or even communicate effectively with managers, team
leaders. professors. My vocabulary has is not close to how it was.
Honestly, it's even difficult to have conversations with friends, which
i've never had a problem with. I can;t even recall anymore whether or
not i'm using correct grammer, etc. My attention span is like a 5 yr
old's and im in the mid twenties.
My reason for writing this post is due to a desperate need for answers.
I will not take anti-depressant pills or go see a doctor. I have been
considering suicide due to this feeling of stupidity. I have never been
suicidal in my life and am finding it difficult to bear with. My
questions only pertain to whether or not i will ever recover from my
current situation. IF so, how can I prevent any future damage and what
solutions do you guys recommend for me to recover. Any feedback will be
greatly appreciated. Unfortunately, I cant seek help elsewhere, due to
my stubbornness and pride. Thanks again in advance!!
If you are looking for some leads to scientific, medical research,
check out the book "Against Depression" by Dr. Peter Kramer.
In the book he cites several studies showing physical adverse changes
in the brains of people with depression. He also cites studies
showing that the extent of the changes relates to the amount of time
that the person had depression, minus the amount of time that the
person was being treated with antidepressants.
You may well get over this bout of depression and never be bothered
again. More typically you may have more frequent bouts, and take
longer each time to recover.
The desire to not take antidepressants, or the desire to get off them
quickly is very common. It's up to you to decide for yourself.
In order to make an informed decision, some information is necessary.
Dr. Kramer's book is the best I have run onto. The science is not
complete, some things that were taken as gospel five of ten years ago
are not considered accurate any more.
Good luck with whatever you decide to do, except don't hurt yourself
or anybody else if you can avoid it.
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| User: "thedoors" |
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06 Nov 2006 03:02:25 AM |
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Hello fellow traveler through the mysteries and disappointments of the
brain;
For a quick medication-less attempt to clear up the depression, a walk
of 3 miles a day is suggested. I tried this years ago during an
episode of depression and it seemed to work well.
This time I haven't done it because I am having a problem combatting
anxiety, and therefore staying home a lot.
I am glad I started on Paxil after a year of resisting getting on
pills, bec ause it cleared up a lot of things, including sensitivities
to sounds and odors, unpleasant interactions with my husband, and I had
my first S.A.D. free winter in about 5 years.
I am planning to get the walking started. Try it, and report back, OK?
Like I said, it worked really well for me. BTW, I also now have
memory and thinking problems along with the depression.
Here's hoping things go well for you.
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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06 Nov 2006 03:37:38 AM |
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On 6 Nov 2006 01:02:25 -0800, "thedoors" <carollombard@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello fellow traveler through the mysteries and disappointments of the
brain;
For a quick medication-less attempt to clear up the depression, a walk
of 3 miles a day is suggested. I tried this years ago during an
episode of depression and it seemed to work well.
This time I haven't done it because I am having a problem combatting
anxiety, and therefore staying home a lot.
There's the rub. Exercise can help many, if not most, depressed people. But
the problem is inertia. Once you are severely depressed it is difficult to
even consider exercising, let alone actually doing it.
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: Does depression cause PERMANENT brain damage? |
06 Nov 2006 05:11:59 PM |
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charles wrote:
On 5 Nov 2006 23:29:55 -0800, wrote:
First of all, I just want to thank in advance to all those people who
have taken their time to read this post. I have been going through
stages of depression for the last six months. I'm actually not sure how
long i've been experiencing depression, however, it hasn't been too
long. I always considered myself as one of those normal people that
will never experience depression. As a matter of fact, I would consider
people who used to claim that they had depression were simply in need
of attention. However, I realized that is not the case. More
importantly besides having all the symptoms of depression, I am having
severe memory loss issues. I am not too concerned with the fact that i
no longer enjoy doing the things i use to enjoy doing, etc. This
depression has seriously began affecting my work performance as well as
school performance. I can no longer remember anything!!!! Slowly my
self esteem has been dropped. I can no longer grasp concepts,
concentrate, or even communicate effectively with managers, team
leaders. professors. My vocabulary has is not close to how it was.
Honestly, it's even difficult to have conversations with friends, which
i've never had a problem with. I can;t even recall anymore whether or
not i'm using correct grammer, etc. My attention span is like a 5 yr
old's and im in the mid twenties.
My reason for writing this post is due to a desperate need for answers.
I will not take anti-depressant pills or go see a doctor. I have been
considering suicide due to this feeling of stupidity. I have never been
suicidal in my life and am finding it difficult to bear with. My
questions only pertain to whether or not i will ever recover from my
current situation. IF so, how can I prevent any future damage and what
solutions do you guys recommend for me to recover. Any feedback will be
greatly appreciated. Unfortunately, I cant seek help elsewhere, due to
my stubbornness and pride. Thanks again in advance!!
If you are looking for some leads to scientific, medical research,
check out the book "Against Depression" by Dr. Peter Kramer.
In the book he cites several studies showing physical adverse changes
in the brains of people with depression. He also cites studies
showing that the extent of the changes relates to the amount of time
that the person had depression, minus the amount of time that the
person was being treated with antidepressants.
You may well get over this bout of depression and never be bothered
again. More typically you may have more frequent bouts, and take
longer each time to recover.
AKA: The Kindling Theory:
The idea of "kindling" is based on the finding that a region of mouse
brain repeatedly exposed to small electric shocks will eventually start
to have spontaneous seizure-like electrical events. That is, repeated
episodes seem to make subsequent episodes more likely to occur
spontaneously.
It's interesting that the psych world calls it "kindling" but when
dealing with criminals (rapists, murderers...) it's called "escalation".
But no matter, the longer you allow these episodes to occur the greater
chance you seem to have of it continuing and likely increasing in both
frequency and amplitude.
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| User: "used2be" |
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| Title: Re: Does depression cause PERMANENT brain damage? |
06 Nov 2006 10:04:23 AM |
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yes.
oh wait...what was i talking about?
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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| Title: Re: Does depression cause PERMANENT brain damage? |
06 Nov 2006 11:50:24 AM |
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"used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:b2J3h.4851$Qn2.1943@tornado.texas.rr.com...
yes.
oh wait...what was i talking about?
Laugh! Well done!
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Rhi
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