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"John" |
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10 Apr 2004 12:40:07 AM |
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Don't want to let go |
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Okay, so I like having my name on the door.
I confess it.
A year ago, I started all over again. Left my three partners, who I couldn't
deal with anymore, and struck out on my own with my secretary. The fact
that she went with the one rather than staying with the three meant
something to the shrewdest of our clients.
Thirteen and a half months later, the three I left have jioned a larger law
firm as employees. My billings have steadily grown, and the practice is
producing a decent living for me, my secretary, and the other professional I
hired.
Now, after what's become a three year hiatus, my original partner wants to
rejion me. He had left me with the three to go off and do his own thing in
another field. That didn't work, and so he returned to this one. I gave
him the opportunity to join me when I struck out on my own last year, but he
didn't. I suspect because part of him wasn't sure I'd make it.
It would make the business better if I let him in. He's good at this, too,
and he works hard.
But it's fucking hard to add another name to the door, even though he and I
were successful in partnership once before.
Maybe I need to grow up a little.
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| User: "used2be" |
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| Title: Re: Don't want to let go |
11 Apr 2004 02:32:12 PM |
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"John" <jjdamato@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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Okay, so I like having my name on the door.
I confess it.
A year ago, I started all over again. Left my three partners, who I
couldn't
deal with anymore, and struck out on my own with my secretary. The fact
that she went with the one rather than staying with the three meant
something to the shrewdest of our clients.
Thirteen and a half months later, the three I left have jioned a larger
law
firm as employees. My billings have steadily grown, and the practice is
producing a decent living for me, my secretary, and the other professional
I
hired.
Now, after what's become a three year hiatus, my original partner wants to
rejion me. He had left me with the three to go off and do his own thing
in
another field. That didn't work, and so he returned to this one. I gave
him the opportunity to join me when I struck out on my own last year, but
he
didn't. I suspect because part of him wasn't sure I'd make it.
It would make the business better if I let him in. He's good at this,
too,
and he works hard.
But it's fucking hard to add another name to the door, even though he and
I
were successful in partnership once before.
Maybe I need to grow up a little.
it almost doesn't seem fair that you laid all of the ground work to get
started. and had to put up the initial capital. and now he gets to walk in
and pick up where he left off with no effort whatsoever.
i dunno. doesn't quite seem "equitable."
just *my* 2 cents.
u2b
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| User: "John" |
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| Title: Re: Don't want to let go |
11 Apr 2004 02:59:08 PM |
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"used2be" <cindyb@ERASETHISaustin.rr.com> wrote in message
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"John" <jjdamato@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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Okay, so I like having my name on the door.
I confess it.
A year ago, I started all over again. Left my three partners, who I
couldn't
deal with anymore, and struck out on my own with my secretary. The fact
that she went with the one rather than staying with the three meant
something to the shrewdest of our clients.
Thirteen and a half months later, the three I left have jioned a larger
law
firm as employees. My billings have steadily grown, and the practice is
producing a decent living for me, my secretary, and the other
professional
I
hired.
Now, after what's become a three year hiatus, my original partner wants
to
rejion me. He had left me with the three to go off and do his own thing
in
another field. That didn't work, and so he returned to this one. I
gave
him the opportunity to join me when I struck out on my own last year,
but
he
didn't. I suspect because part of him wasn't sure I'd make it.
It would make the business better if I let him in. He's good at this,
too,
and he works hard.
But it's fucking hard to add another name to the door, even though he
and
I
were successful in partnership once before.
Maybe I need to grow up a little.
it almost doesn't seem fair that you laid all of the ground work to get
started. and had to put up the initial capital. and now he gets to walk
in
and pick up where he left off with no effort whatsoever.
i dunno. doesn't quite seem "equitable."
just *my* 2 cents.
Yeah. That's the part of it that's hard for me to swallow, too.
I hope I'm able to get beyond that though. I'm thinking that there ought to
be some way of structuring the deal so that I don't feel that I'm losing
out.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Don't want to let go |
11 Apr 2004 04:24:24 PM |
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On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 19:59:08 GMT, "John" <jjdamato@hawaii.rr.com>
wrote:
<(((*> x-no-archive: yes
It's in my headers.
<(((*> Yeah. That's the part of it that's hard for me to swallow, too.
<(((*> I hope I'm able to get beyond that though. I'm thinking that there ought to
<(((*> be some way of structuring the deal so that I don't feel that I'm losing
<(((*> out.
Maybe sign him up as an employee for, say, 12 months or until he
achieves a specified level of billings, whichever occurs first?
Seems to me that way he could earn his way back into partnership,
but you protect the hard work you've put in to get yourself to
this point.
Just a thought, but of course I don't know enough of your history
together to say if it's a workable idea.
Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
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| User: "John" |
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| Title: Re: Don't want to let go |
11 Apr 2004 04:34:07 PM |
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<thehouse@pooh.corner> wrote in message
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On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 19:59:08 GMT, "John" <jjdamato@hawaii.rr.com>
wrote:
<(((*> x-no-archive: yes
It's in my headers.
<(((*> Yeah. That's the part of it that's hard for me to swallow, too.
<(((*> I hope I'm able to get beyond that though. I'm thinking that
there ought to
<(((*> be some way of structuring the deal so that I don't feel that I'm
losing
<(((*> out.
Maybe sign him up as an employee for, say, 12 months or until he
achieves a specified level of billings, whichever occurs first?
Seems to me that way he could earn his way back into partnership,
but you protect the hard work you've put in to get yourself to
this point.
Just a thought, but of course I don't know enough of your history
together to say if it's a workable idea.
That's not a bad thought.
Thanks.
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| User: "GlennT" |
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10 Apr 2004 03:18:24 AM |
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John wrote:
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Okay, so I like having my name on the door.
I confess it.
A year ago, I started all over again. Left my three partners, who I couldn't
deal with anymore, and struck out on my own with my secretary. The fact
that she went with the one rather than staying with the three meant
something to the shrewdest of our clients.
Thirteen and a half months later, the three I left have jioned a larger law
firm as employees. My billings have steadily grown, and the practice is
producing a decent living for me, my secretary, and the other professional I
hired.
Now, after what's become a three year hiatus, my original partner wants to
rejion me. He had left me with the three to go off and do his own thing in
another field. That didn't work, and so he returned to this one. I gave
him the opportunity to join me when I struck out on my own last year, but he
didn't. I suspect because part of him wasn't sure I'd make it.
It would make the business better if I let him in. He's good at this, too,
and he works hard.
But it's fucking hard to add another name to the door, even though he and I
were successful in partnership once before.
Maybe I need to grow up a little.
That's a tough call, John. Emotions and business don't always gel
but my thinking is to never totally disassociate one with the other.
To be in touch with your instincts is vital in business on many levels.
If the product is better then the equation makes sense. If the cost
is too high it doesn't. Tough call...
GlennT
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| User: "John" |
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| Title: Re: Don't want to let go |
10 Apr 2004 08:58:18 AM |
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"GlennT" <ask@noname.com> wrote in message
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John wrote:
Maybe I need to grow up a little.
That's a tough call, John. Emotions and business don't always gel
but my thinking is to never totally disassociate one with the other.
To be in touch with your instincts is vital in business on many levels.
If the product is better then the equation makes sense. If the cost
is too high it doesn't. Tough call...
GlennT
It is about emotions, isn't it?
Thanks for your thoughts.
J. <==doesn't share well with others
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| User: "Whiskers" |
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| Title: Re: Don't want to let go |
10 Apr 2004 02:29:23 PM |
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 13:58:18 +0000, "John" <noone@home.net> wrote:
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It is about emotions, isn't it?
Thanks for your thoughts.
I'm the last person to offer business or relationship advice - but
it's pretty clear that you've proved yourself.
--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^ Interested in Citroens?
-- Whiskers <http://www.aacit.net>
-- ~~~~~~~~~~ <news:alt.autos.citroen>
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| User: "John" |
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| Title: Re: Don't want to let go |
11 Apr 2004 01:56:08 PM |
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"Whiskers" <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 13:58:18 +0000, "John" <noone@home.net> wrote:
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It is about emotions, isn't it?
Thanks for your thoughts.
I'm the last person to offer business or relationship advice - but
it's pretty clear that you've proved yourself.
Hmmm....now there's an interesting thought.
I wonder if that's what it's about?
I think you could be right.
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