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"lisa in mass." |
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16 Sep 2004 06:29:20 PM |
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ect and surgery |
this has been bothering me lately.
i had a hysterectomy a few years back. i was on maintenance ect
at the time. i know that it happened, but i have absolutely no
memory of it, or the time period around it.
whenever docs ask if i've had previous surgery, i often forget
the hysterectomy, since i can't remember the operation or
recovery period.
-lisa
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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| Title: Re: ect and surgery |
17 Sep 2004 01:15:53 AM |
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In message <Xns9566C63E42070mccatsjavanetcom@199.184.165.239>, lisa in
mass. <mccats@rcn.com> writes
this has been bothering me lately.
i had a hysterectomy a few years back. i was on maintenance ect
at the time. i know that it happened, but i have absolutely no
memory of it, or the time period around it.
whenever docs ask if i've had previous surgery, i often forget
the hysterectomy, since i can't remember the operation or
recovery period.
I have years I can't remember, even without ECT.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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| Title: Re: ect and surgery |
17 Sep 2004 01:34:06 AM |
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Alan Harding wrote...
In message
<Xns9566C63E42070mccatsjavanetcom@199.184.165.239>, lisa in
mass. <mccats@rcn.com> writes
this has been bothering me lately.
i had a hysterectomy a few years back. i was on maintenance
ect at the time. i know that it happened, but i have
absolutely no memory of it, or the time period around it.
whenever docs ask if i've had previous surgery, i often
forget the hysterectomy, since i can't remember the
operation or recovery period.
I have years I can't remember, even without ECT.
not remembering the removal of body parts is creepy. most of the
other stuff i don't remember doesn't bother me.
-lisa
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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| Title: Re: ect and surgery |
17 Sep 2004 12:50:06 PM |
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In message <Xns95671A1D9FBB8mccatsjavanetcom@199.184.165.239>, lisa in
mass. <mccats@rcn.com> writes
Alan Harding wrote...
In message
<Xns9566C63E42070mccatsjavanetcom@199.184.165.239>, lisa in
mass. <mccats@rcn.com> writes
this has been bothering me lately.
i had a hysterectomy a few years back. i was on maintenance
ect at the time. i know that it happened, but i have
absolutely no memory of it, or the time period around it.
whenever docs ask if i've had previous surgery, i often
forget the hysterectomy, since i can't remember the
operation or recovery period.
I have years I can't remember, even without ECT.
not remembering the removal of body parts is creepy. most of the
other stuff i don't remember doesn't bother me.
I had a surgery or two in there. It is weird what you can fail to
remember. I know I had the ops, but I don't remember being in hospital.
It's like something I read about, not something I lived. But I can
remember having my toes lopped, even though I was severely depressed.
Memory is a smoky mirror trick.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "=^.^=" |
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| Title: Re: ect and surgery |
17 Sep 2004 03:09:10 AM |
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On 17 Sep 2004 06:34:06 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
not remembering the removal of body parts is creepy. most of the=20
other stuff i don't remember doesn't bother me.
I don't remember the laparotomy. and it took a lot longer
to do the job than they expected. but I was totally gassed
the procedures under Versed (midazolam) I remember
and I became more conscious during the ***** inspection
....just curious and mildly annoying
-lisa
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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| Title: Re: ect and surgery |
17 Sep 2004 03:16:46 AM |
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=^.^= wrote...
On 17 Sep 2004 06:34:06 GMT, "lisa in mass."
<mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
not remembering the removal of body parts is creepy. most
of the other stuff i don't remember doesn't bother me.
I don't remember the laparotomy. and it took a lot longer
to do the job than they expected. but I was totally gassed
the procedures under Versed (midazolam) I remember
and I became more conscious during the ***** inspection
...just curious and mildly annoying
-lisa
it's not that i don't remember the procedure. what bothers me
is that i don't remember deciding to have it, my husband says
that they did it at the teaching hospital instead of my dr's
hospital and kept me another day because i was 'high risk'. i
don't remember the recovery or aftermath. i just know
anectodtally that i don't have a uterus anymore. that's what i
find disconcerting.
-lisa
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| User: "=^.^=" |
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| Title: Re: ect and surgery |
17 Sep 2004 04:46:32 AM |
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On 17 Sep 2004 08:16:46 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
...just curious and mildly annoying
it's not that i don't remember the procedure. what bothers me=20
is that i don't remember deciding to have it, my husband says=20
that they did it at the teaching hospital instead of my dr's=20
hospital and kept me another day because i was 'high risk'. i=20
don't remember the recovery or aftermath. i just know=20
anectodtally that i don't have a uterus anymore. that's what i=20
find disconcerting.
next of kin, etc. can elect surgeries
I have no kin, and I am my own power of attorney
so I have to maintain and be coherent to sign-off
I'm just missing a lot of dangerous trash. izz ok!
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| User: "wombn" |
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| Title: Re: ect and surgery |
16 Sep 2004 09:42:50 PM |
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On 16 Sep 2004 23:29:20 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
this has been bothering me lately.
i had a hysterectomy a few years back. i was on maintenance ect
at the time. i know that it happened, but i have absolutely no
memory of it, or the time period around it.
whenever docs ask if i've had previous surgery, i often forget
the hysterectomy, since i can't remember the operation or
recovery period.
A handwritten list of common doctor's questions?
I've had to start doing that with meds. Cuz I can never remember the
dosage amounts, and seem to always forget one or another pill or so.
--
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And yet, somehow, I'm considered far right wing...
http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/questionnaire.pl?page=printable_graph&X=2.75&Y=0.46
This, otoh, is an extremist:
http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/questionnaire.pl?page=printable_graph&X=-8.62&Y=-7.64
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| User: "=^.^=" |
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| Title: Re: ect and surgery |
16 Sep 2004 11:22:16 PM |
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On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 02:42:50 GMT, wombn
<wombnhearmeroar@comcast.net> wrote:
I've had to start doing that with meds. Cuz I can never remember the
dosage amounts, and seem to always forget one or another pill or so.
I do Drug-A-Rama. doses put in medicine bottles which
just happen to accept different coloured coke, pepsi, etc.
caps. wake up, do the red. the blue, at night. I'm going
to have to do a yellow intermediary one, tho. phuahuah!
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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| Title: Re: ect and surgery |
16 Sep 2004 11:27:51 PM |
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=^.^= wrote...
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 02:42:50 GMT, wombn
<wombnhearmeroar@comcast.net> wrote:
I've had to start doing that with meds. Cuz I can never
remember the dosage amounts, and seem to always forget one
or another pill or so.
I do Drug-A-Rama. doses put in medicine bottles which
just happen to accept different coloured coke, pepsi, etc.
caps. wake up, do the red. the blue, at night. I'm going
to have to do a yellow intermediary one, tho. phuahuah!
that's like what i do. write the name on the lid of the bottle
then color code them with colored spots. dark blue for night,
pale green for morning, purple for prn's. some of them have more
than one color on them. then i keep all the meds in a small open
box, like a kitchen sponge organizer-thing.
-lisa
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| User: "=^.^=" |
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| Title: Re: ect and surgery |
17 Sep 2004 12:28:46 AM |
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On 17 Sep 2004 04:27:51 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
I do Drug-A-Rama. doses put in medicine bottles which
just happen to accept different coloured coke, pepsi, etc.
caps. wake up, do the red. the blue, at night. I'm going
to have to do a yellow intermediary one, tho. phuahuah!
that's like what i do. write the name on the lid of the bottle=20
then color code them with colored spots. dark blue for night,=20
pale green for morning, purple for prn's. some of them have more=20
than one color on them. then i keep all the meds in a small open=20
box, like a kitchen sponge organizer-thing.
the PRN stays in the lockbox. lockbox keeps predators out
and keeps ***** all organized, plus an effort to just get-at...
I should attach a steel cord to it and that to the floor with
a giantassed lag-bolt with a locktited (red) nut on the end
wish i'd gotten one with a combo-lock...
the key was used while I was in the shower. once
I do not want to live in a place like that, and in a place
where I might have to use these claws to protect a cat
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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| Title: Re: ect and surgery |
17 Sep 2004 12:36:50 AM |
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=^.^= wrote...
On 17 Sep 2004 04:27:51 GMT, "lisa in mass."
<mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
I do Drug-A-Rama. doses put in medicine bottles which
just happen to accept different coloured coke, pepsi,
etc. caps. wake up, do the red. the blue, at night.
I'm going to have to do a yellow intermediary one, tho.
phuahuah!
that's like what i do. write the name on the lid of the
bottle then color code them with colored spots. dark blue
for night, pale green for morning, purple for prn's. some
of them have more than one color on them. then i keep all
the meds in a small open box, like a kitchen sponge
organizer-thing.
the PRN stays in the lockbox. lockbox keeps predators out
and keeps ***** all organized, plus an effort to just
get-at...
I should attach a steel cord to it and that to the floor
with a giantassed lag-bolt with a locktited (red) nut on
the end
wish i'd gotten one with a combo-lock...
the key was used while I was in the shower. once
I do not want to live in a place like that, and in a place
where I might have to use these claws to protect a cat
who'd get into the lockbox?
my parents put a slidelock on the drug cabinet door in the
bathroom when i was a kid. didn't take me long to figure out
that i could just lift out the glass... a lockbox would have
taken me longer.
-lisa
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| User: "=^.^=" |
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| Title: Re: ect and surgery |
17 Sep 2004 02:11:42 AM |
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On 17 Sep 2004 05:36:50 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
who'd get into the lockbox?
affluent middle-class daddy & bitter crazy catlady poisoned
impressionable teen-girl who changed in the past kiloday+
more like a half-decade. plus she has some powerful
application solutions she is running to make daddy less
toxic. gotta be a blamee, and mom cannot be "it". the
other sibs are aware of the processes, too. I don't care
to fix. I just had to watch a young woman get changed
it might be part of a greater better whole/better-off thing
my parents put a slidelock on the drug cabinet door in the=20
bathroom when i was a kid. didn't take me long to figure out=20
that i could just lift out the glass... a lockbox would have=20
taken me longer.
yaa. I was using tools to take-out the doorpins to get into
locked closets, when I was four. curiosity. I got into a kit
for a primitive 3-tube breadboard radio. no problem, but
I was very cautious with things that had 250VDC on them
I knew what 250VDC meant and knew what 115VAC could do
I erred to caution. they were capacitors and not dangerous
unless charged, and these were some unused new parts
in later years we would play toss-the-capacitor, charged to
capacity, and definately waz gonna give ya a negative charge
raaaerr. I like positive charges a lot more...like being sprung
that came somewhat about the same timeframe. woohoo!
Mz. Cathe Kerekes, no-less...
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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| Title: Re: ect and surgery |
16 Sep 2004 10:22:11 PM |
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wombn wrote...
On 16 Sep 2004 23:29:20 GMT, "lisa in mass."
<mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
this has been bothering me lately.
i had a hysterectomy a few years back. i was on maintenance
ect at the time. i know that it happened, but i have
absolutely no memory of it, or the time period around it.
whenever docs ask if i've had previous surgery, i often
forget the hysterectomy, since i can't remember the
operation or recovery period.
A handwritten list of common doctor's questions?
I've had to start doing that with meds. Cuz I can never
remember the dosage amounts, and seem to always forget one
or another pill or so.
i carry my palm computer with me everywhere, and that has my
medlist in it. i'm also getting better about notifying medic
alert of my med changes in case of an accident. easy enough to
do since they're on the web.
-lisa
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| User: "wombn" |
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| Title: Re: ect and surgery |
16 Sep 2004 10:58:17 PM |
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On 17 Sep 2004 03:22:11 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
wombn wrote...
On 16 Sep 2004 23:29:20 GMT, "lisa in mass."
<mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
this has been bothering me lately.
i had a hysterectomy a few years back. i was on maintenance
ect at the time. i know that it happened, but i have
absolutely no memory of it, or the time period around it.
whenever docs ask if i've had previous surgery, i often
forget the hysterectomy, since i can't remember the
operation or recovery period.
A handwritten list of common doctor's questions?
I've had to start doing that with meds. Cuz I can never
remember the dosage amounts, and seem to always forget one
or another pill or so.
i carry my palm computer with me everywhere, and that has my
medlist in it. i'm also getting better about notifying medic
alert of my med changes in case of an accident. easy enough to
do since they're on the web.
MedicAlert has never gotten my data correct, even after 4 yrs of
trying. They STILL have me taking glyburide. (that's an oral med for
type 2 diabetes, which I haven't taken for >4 yrs now). I gave up.
So now I just use my label printer and stick the data on the card
itself.
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And yet, somehow, I'm considered far right wing...
http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/questionnaire.pl?page=printable_graph&X=2.75&Y=0.46
This, otoh, is an extremist:
http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/questionnaire.pl?page=printable_graph&X=-8.62&Y=-7.64
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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| Title: Re: ect and surgery |
16 Sep 2004 11:06:36 PM |
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wombn wrote...
On 17 Sep 2004 03:22:11 GMT, "lisa in mass."
<mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
wombn wrote...
On 16 Sep 2004 23:29:20 GMT, "lisa in mass."
<mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
this has been bothering me lately.
i had a hysterectomy a few years back. i was on
maintenance ect at the time. i know that it happened, but
i have absolutely no memory of it, or the time period
around it.
whenever docs ask if i've had previous surgery, i often
forget the hysterectomy, since i can't remember the
operation or recovery period.
A handwritten list of common doctor's questions?
I've had to start doing that with meds. Cuz I can never
remember the dosage amounts, and seem to always forget
one or another pill or so.
i carry my palm computer with me everywhere, and that has
my medlist in it. i'm also getting better about notifying
medic alert of my med changes in case of an accident. easy
enough to do since they're on the web.
MedicAlert has never gotten my data correct, even after 4
yrs of
trying. They STILL have me taking glyburide. (that's an
oral med for type 2 diabetes, which I haven't taken for >4
yrs now). I gave up.
So now I just use my label printer and stick the data on
the card itself.
now they don't even put the info on the cards. just a copy of
your member id and their phone number. go to
www.medicalert.org and you can make changes to your meds.
they're also good about answering email.
i need a new tag. with the mg in remission, i don't want it
off the list, but i'd rather the bracelet list my maoi- much
more dangerous right now.
-lisa
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| User: "JohnM" |
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| Title: Re: ect and surgery |
16 Sep 2004 07:54:18 PM |
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Write it down? Put in wallet?
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9566C63E42070mccatsjavanetcom@199.184.165.239...
this has been bothering me lately.
i had a hysterectomy a few years back. i was on maintenance ect
at the time. i know that it happened, but i have absolutely no
memory of it, or the time period around it.
whenever docs ask if i've had previous surgery, i often forget
the hysterectomy, since i can't remember the operation or
recovery period.
-lisa
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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| Title: Re: ect and surgery |
16 Sep 2004 08:29:40 PM |
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JohnM wrote...
it's not so much that i don't know about it. it creeps me out
to have had a body part removed and to remember nothing of it.
-lisa
Write it down? Put in wallet?
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9566C63E42070mccatsjavanetcom@199.184.165.239...
this has been bothering me lately.
i had a hysterectomy a few years back. i was on
maintenance ect at the time. i know that it happened, but
i have absolutely no memory of it, or the time period
around it.
whenever docs ask if i've had previous surgery, i often
forget the hysterectomy, since i can't remember the
operation or recovery period.
-lisa
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| User: "wombn" |
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| Title: Re: ect and surgery |
16 Sep 2004 09:44:25 PM |
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On 17 Sep 2004 01:29:40 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
JohnM wrote...
it's not so much that i don't know about it. it creeps me out
to have had a body part removed and to remember nothing of it.
I, personally, would see that as a blessing, cuz I wouldn't be
remembering the IV part either....
Then again, I have such a bad memory anyway, that I'd just see that
forgetfulness as normal. For me.
wombn << intractable needlephobe
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And yet, somehow, I'm considered far right wing...
http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/questionnaire.pl?page=printable_graph&X=2.75&Y=0.46
This, otoh, is an extremist:
http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/questionnaire.pl?page=printable_graph&X=-8.62&Y=-7.64
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