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16 Aug 2006 03:45:37 AM |
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electric out, but am ok |
Am ok for this evening, the lights went out for quite awhile as a strom
passed by, but they just came back on. It's hard to be without a computer or
an air conditioner. I have been considering getting a back up unit at best
buy or some place similar. Has anyone had any experience with these?
Mood is generally ok, but fell asleep earlier, and had a panic attack when I
woke up. Now I'm listening to some oldies from New Jersy.
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Diagnosis: Organic Mood Disorder (in recovery)
Please email me for a URL to my website and blog
Everything is connected... no one thing can change by itself.
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| User: "Larry the llama" |
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| Title: Re: electric out, but am ok |
16 Aug 2006 04:09:23 AM |
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David wrote:
Am ok for this evening, the lights went out for quite awhile as a strom
passed by, but they just came back on. It's hard to be without a computer or
an air conditioner. I have been considering getting a back up unit at best
buy or some place similar. Has anyone had any experience with these?
Mood is generally ok, but fell asleep earlier, and had a panic attack when I
woke up. Now I'm listening to some oldies from New Jersy.
--
Diagnosis: Organic Mood Disorder (in recovery)
Please email me for a URL to my website and blog
Everything is connected... no one thing can change by itself.
i have a computer that runs on gas.
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| User: "David" |
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| Title: Re: electric out, but am ok |
16 Aug 2006 05:00:46 AM |
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"Larry the llama" <purpleveggie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1155719363.887838.184820@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
David wrote:
Am ok for this evening, the lights went out for quite awhile as a strom
passed by, but they just came back on. It's hard to be without a computer
or
an air conditioner. I have been considering getting a back up unit at
best
buy or some place similar. Has anyone had any experience with these?
Mood is generally ok, but fell asleep earlier, and had a panic attack
when I
woke up. Now I'm listening to some oldies from New Jersy.
--
Diagnosis: Organic Mood Disorder (in recovery)
Please email me for a URL to my website and blog
Everything is connected... no one thing can change by itself.
i have a computer that runs on gas.
Hope that you're ok, remember meds. I've heard of whole house generators
that run on diesel or by other means before and am considering it for later
on, but for now I'd just like one to plug in a few essentials for a couple
of hours or so or more. Kind of like one would a battery powered laptop.
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: electric out, but am ok |
16 Aug 2006 10:40:20 AM |
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David wrote:
"Larry the llama" <purpleveggie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1155719363.887838.184820@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
David wrote:
Am ok for this evening, the lights went out for quite awhile as a strom
passed by, but they just came back on. It's hard to be without a computer
or
an air conditioner. I have been considering getting a back up unit at
best
buy or some place similar. Has anyone had any experience with these?
Mood is generally ok, but fell asleep earlier, and had a panic attack
when I
woke up. Now I'm listening to some oldies from New Jersy.
--
Diagnosis: Organic Mood Disorder (in recovery)
Please email me for a URL to my website and blog
Everything is connected... no one thing can change by itself.
i have a computer that runs on gas.
Hope that you're ok, remember meds. I've heard of whole house generators
that run on diesel or by other means before and am considering it for later
on, but for now I'd just like one to plug in a few essentials for a couple
of hours or so or more. Kind of like one would a battery powered laptop.
Hope that your generator has meds. It feels like you have a lot of
tension about hydrocarbons, you should bring this up with your doctor.
Remember to adjust spark gap. When your Doctor is cold outside remember
to set the choke.
Combusting well, valve train had voices earlier...I feel like my
synapses are hydraulic valves. Will take more meds to adjust medication
mechanical valve gap. No automatic knock sensor - will have to repeat
pre-detonation, not willing to get long term distributor timing adjustment.
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| User: "Whiskers" |
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| Title: Re: electric out, but am ok |
16 Aug 2006 07:59:22 AM |
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On 2006-08-16, David <dav2dd@gmail.com> wrote:
"Larry the llama" <purpleveggie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1155719363.887838.184820@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
David wrote:
Am ok for this evening, the lights went out for quite awhile as a strom
passed by, but they just came back on. It's hard to be without a computer
or
an air conditioner. I have been considering getting a back up unit at
best
buy or some place similar. Has anyone had any experience with these?
Mood is generally ok, but fell asleep earlier, and had a panic attack
when I
woke up. Now I'm listening to some oldies from New Jersy.
--
Diagnosis: Organic Mood Disorder (in recovery)
Please email me for a URL to my website and blog
Everything is connected... no one thing can change by itself.
i have a computer that runs on gas.
Hope that you're ok, remember meds. I've heard of whole house generators
that run on diesel or by other means before and am considering it for later
on, but for now I'd just like one to plug in a few essentials for a couple
of hours or so or more. Kind of like one would a battery powered laptop.
There are 'uninteruptible power supply' (UPS) gadgets that will keep a
computer, modem, and lamp, running for a short while in a power cut.
There are various makes and models with various power outputs. Whether
it's a good idea to have a modem or computer running during a thunder
storm, is another question.
--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~
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| User: "w_tom" |
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| Title: Re: electric out, but am ok |
16 Aug 2006 06:06:47 PM |
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The plug-in UPS is for data protection from blackouts and extreme
brownouts. That is data protection so that data can be saved to disk.
Serious building wide UPSes provide more. If integrated with a power
generator system, then that UPS system is for more than temporary power
loss.
Adjacent protectors even contributed to damage of some powered off
and networked computers. We do this by identifying the path of a
surge, replacing damaged ICs, and restoring operation. Repeatedly
demonstrated - a power strip protector can even contribute to damage of
adjacent electronics. We have seen it.
Transient protection is completely different from UPS data
protection. Effective transient protection that typically costs tens
of times less money per protected appliance is located where power
enters the building and connected short to earth. Such protectors are
even sold in Home Depot, Lowes, and electrical supply houses using
brand names such as GE, Siemens, Intermatic, Cutler-Hammer, Leviton,
and Square D. Listed are highly regarded manufacturers as any
electrician can confirm. Have never seen responsible and effective
protectors sold in Sears, Radio Shack, Staples, K-mart, Wal-mart,
Circuit City, Office Max, or the grocery store.
I run computers routinely during thunderstorms. In fact, one modem
was once located elsewhere without effective 'whole house' protector;
and was damaged. The usual path of modem damage was identified, that
PNP transistor replaced, and this modem has been working for 5+ years
now. We first learned why hardware damage occurs. Then install an
effective 'whole house' protector where utility wires enter the
building. That is the secret. A properly earthed 'whole house'
protector.
Whiskers wrote:
There are 'uninteruptible power supply' (UPS) gadgets that will keep a
computer, modem, and lamp, running for a short while in a power cut.
There are various makes and models with various power outputs. Whether
it's a good idea to have a modem or computer running during a thunder
storm, is another question.
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: electric out, but am ok |
16 Aug 2006 02:55:06 PM |
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Whiskers wrote:
On 2006-08-16, David <dav2dd@gmail.com> wrote:
"Larry the llama" <purpleveggie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1155719363.887838.184820@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
David wrote:
Am ok for this evening, the lights went out for quite awhile as a strom
passed by, but they just came back on. It's hard to be without a computer
or
an air conditioner. I have been considering getting a back up unit at
best
buy or some place similar. Has anyone had any experience with these?
Mood is generally ok, but fell asleep earlier, and had a panic attack
when I
woke up. Now I'm listening to some oldies from New Jersy.
--
Diagnosis: Organic Mood Disorder (in recovery)
Please email me for a URL to my website and blog
Everything is connected... no one thing can change by itself.
i have a computer that runs on gas.
Hope that you're ok, remember meds. I've heard of whole house generators
that run on diesel or by other means before and am considering it for later
on, but for now I'd just like one to plug in a few essentials for a couple
of hours or so or more. Kind of like one would a battery powered laptop.
There are 'uninteruptible power supply' (UPS) gadgets that will keep a
computer, modem, and lamp, running for a short while in a power cut.
There are various makes and models with various power outputs. Whether
it's a good idea to have a modem or computer running during a thunder
storm, is another question.
I've never seen modems/network gear taken out when it was properly
protected. Even the cheapie strips seem to work (those that usually
still have the green "working" light on after an unknown surge has
killed them). I've seen two straight modem deaths on unprotected lines
though - expensive ones too, from back in the 14.4 days.
A heavy duty UPS and power inverter is a nice thing to have if you can
afford it/find a good auction. You'll know you've got the right thing
when you throw your back out trying to move it...
I've got 2 systems on the UPS I'm using now. It has a serial interface -
but it doesn't reach the PVR (which has a surge filter on the co-ax
line) and the desktop no longer has a serial port on the rear cluster
and I can't spare a PCI slot cover anywhere near the mobo header.
Pay attention to your power folks! Even the $80 models beat the hell out
of the $15 "surge" protector strip.
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| User: "slunky" |
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16 Aug 2006 03:05:57 PM |
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I got my UPS from a hospital my brother-in-law works at. They were
throwing it out. All I needed to do is buy a replacement battery for it.
Sometimes it makes a high pitched squeel. I don't know what that's
about. I hope it doesn't burn down my apartment.
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-slunky
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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16 Aug 2006 03:22:37 PM |
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slunky wrote:
I got my UPS from a hospital my brother-in-law works at. They were
throwing it out. All I needed to do is buy a replacement battery for it.
Sometimes it makes a high pitched squeel. I don't know what that's
about. I hope it doesn't burn down my apartment.
Could be a self test...does it switch over like it's under load?
A hospital UPS would almost certainly be an "always" online UPS so that
kind of equipment is a lot different.
When the battery dies in my current unit I'm tempted to pick up a marine
gel cell and just sorta...DIY.
Should make for a good electrical fire. ;)
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| User: "slunky" |
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16 Aug 2006 03:29:33 PM |
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_/ Franz Bestuchev wrote \_
Could be a self test...does it switch over like it's under load?
Yep, it does. You're probably right about it being a self test. It's a
monster of a machine. It's about the size of my old Epson laser printer.
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-slunky
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: electric out, but am ok |
17 Aug 2006 01:52:33 AM |
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slunky wrote:
_/ Franz Bestuchev wrote \_
Could be a self test...does it switch over like it's under load?
Yep, it does. You're probably right about it being a self test. It's a
monster of a machine. It's about the size of my old Epson laser printer.
Mine kind of freaks me out occasionally when it does that. If it's
during the day and I'm not at the computer with the TV or lights on and
I hear that "*CLICK*grrrrrrrrrrrrr". I always think...oh *****.
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| User: "Whiskers" |
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| Title: Re: electric out, but am ok |
16 Aug 2006 05:17:10 PM |
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On 2006-08-16, Franz Bestuchev <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote:
Whiskers wrote:
snip
I've got 2 systems on the UPS I'm using now. It has a serial interface -
but it doesn't reach the PVR (which has a surge filter on the co-ax
line) and the desktop no longer has a serial port on the rear cluster
and I can't spare a PCI slot cover anywhere near the mobo header.
snip
I've found that Serial/USB converters work; I've used one for a modem and
for a UPS. Being able to trust the UPS to trigger a controlled shutdown
after X minutes of no mains power, is certainly a comfort. You could get
fancy and have the system send out pre-prepared emails or phone messages
or SMS texts, if your systems are important enough.
I was very impressed when my UPS kicked in when the mains power failed one
evening; not so much as a flicker from the computer. It can be quite
revealing to look at a graphical representation of the mains-supply stats
too; I hadn't appreciated just how much the supply here varies and how
often there are 'spikes' and 'drops' that aren't quite enough to upset
normal domestic equiment.
--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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18 Aug 2006 12:30:23 PM |
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Whiskers wrote:
On 2006-08-16, Franz Bestuchev <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote:
Whiskers wrote:
snip
I've got 2 systems on the UPS I'm using now. It has a serial interface -
but it doesn't reach the PVR (which has a surge filter on the co-ax
line) and the desktop no longer has a serial port on the rear cluster
and I can't spare a PCI slot cover anywhere near the mobo header.
snip
I've found that Serial/USB converters work; I've used one for a modem and
for a UPS. Being able to trust the UPS to trigger a controlled shutdown
after X minutes of no mains power, is certainly a comfort. You could get
fancy and have the system send out pre-prepared emails or phone messages
or SMS texts, if your systems are important enough.
I was very impressed when my UPS kicked in when the mains power failed one
evening; not so much as a flicker from the computer. It can be quite
revealing to look at a graphical representation of the mains-supply stats
too; I hadn't appreciated just how much the supply here varies and how
often there are 'spikes' and 'drops' that aren't quite enough to upset
normal domestic equiment.
That's an interesting idea - hadn't really thought of it...because it
just wasn't a priority. I don't leave the system on much when I'm not
around - it just draws too much power and hence too much heat.
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| User: "Whiskers" |
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18 Aug 2006 02:19:49 PM |
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On 2006-08-18, Franz Bestuchev <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote:
Whiskers wrote:
On 2006-08-16, Franz Bestuchev <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote:
Whiskers wrote:
snip
I've got 2 systems on the UPS I'm using now. It has a serial interface -
but it doesn't reach the PVR (which has a surge filter on the co-ax
line) and the desktop no longer has a serial port on the rear cluster
and I can't spare a PCI slot cover anywhere near the mobo header.
snip
I've found that Serial/USB converters work; I've used one for a modem and
for a UPS. Being able to trust the UPS to trigger a controlled shutdown
after X minutes of no mains power, is certainly a comfort. You could get
fancy and have the system send out pre-prepared emails or phone messages
or SMS texts, if your systems are important enough.
I was very impressed when my UPS kicked in when the mains power failed one
evening; not so much as a flicker from the computer. It can be quite
revealing to look at a graphical representation of the mains-supply stats
too; I hadn't appreciated just how much the supply here varies and how
often there are 'spikes' and 'drops' that aren't quite enough to upset
normal domestic equiment.
That's an interesting idea - hadn't really thought of it...because it
just wasn't a priority. I don't leave the system on much when I'm not
around - it just draws too much power and hence too much heat.
There's no reason to keep a computer running unless you need it as a web
server or for people to dial into - or as part of a P2P network, or 'Tor'
or the 'undernet', of course.
--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: electric out, but am ok |
18 Aug 2006 03:10:17 PM |
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"Whiskers" <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:lfghr3-kp6.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net...
On 2006-08-18, Franz Bestuchev <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote:
Whiskers wrote:
On 2006-08-16, Franz Bestuchev <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote:
Whiskers wrote:
snip
I've got 2 systems on the UPS I'm using now. It has a serial
interface -
but it doesn't reach the PVR (which has a surge filter on the co-ax
line) and the desktop no longer has a serial port on the rear cluster
and I can't spare a PCI slot cover anywhere near the mobo header.
snip
I've found that Serial/USB converters work; I've used one for a modem
and
for a UPS. Being able to trust the UPS to trigger a controlled
shutdown
after X minutes of no mains power, is certainly a comfort. You could
get
fancy and have the system send out pre-prepared emails or phone
messages
or SMS texts, if your systems are important enough.
I was very impressed when my UPS kicked in when the mains power failed
one
evening; not so much as a flicker from the computer. It can be quite
revealing to look at a graphical representation of the mains-supply
stats
too; I hadn't appreciated just how much the supply here varies and how
often there are 'spikes' and 'drops' that aren't quite enough to upset
normal domestic equiment.
That's an interesting idea - hadn't really thought of it...because it
just wasn't a priority. I don't leave the system on much when I'm not
around - it just draws too much power and hence too much heat.
There's no reason to keep a computer running unless you need it as a web
server or for people to dial into - or as part of a P2P network, or 'Tor'
or the 'undernet', of course.
--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~
what if it gives off a warm glow that makes you feel all fuzzy
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| User: "Whiskers" |
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18 Aug 2006 04:23:28 PM |
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On 2006-08-18, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
"Whiskers" <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:lfghr3-kp6.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net...
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There's no reason to keep a computer running unless you need it as a web
server or for people to dial into - or as part of a P2P network, or 'Tor'
or the 'undernet', of course.
what if it gives off a warm glow that makes you feel all fuzzy
Then it's getting too hot and possibly has a short-circuit.
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-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~
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| User: "%" |
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18 Aug 2006 05:15:17 PM |
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"Whiskers" <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:gnnhr3-s8c.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net...
On 2006-08-18, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
"Whiskers" <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:lfghr3-kp6.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net...
snip
There's no reason to keep a computer running unless you need it as a
web
server or for people to dial into - or as part of a P2P network, or
'Tor'
or the 'undernet', of course.
what if it gives off a warm glow that makes you feel all fuzzy
Then it's getting too hot and possibly has a short-circuit.
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-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~
can i adjust for that
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| User: "Whiskers" |
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19 Aug 2006 07:04:58 AM |
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On 2006-08-18, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
"Whiskers" <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:gnnhr3-s8c.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net...
On 2006-08-18, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
"Whiskers" <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:lfghr3-kp6.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net...
snip
There's no reason to keep a computer running unless you need it as a web
server or for people to dial into - or as part of a P2P network, or 'Tor'
or the 'undernet', of course.
what if it gives off a warm glow that makes you feel all fuzzy
Then it's getting too hot and possibly has a short-circuit.
can i adjust for that
Using moose antlers as a suitable safety precaution, possibly.
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-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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19 Aug 2006 02:26:13 AM |
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Whiskers wrote:
On 2006-08-18, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
"Whiskers" <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:lfghr3-kp6.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net...
snip
There's no reason to keep a computer running unless you need it as a web
server or for people to dial into - or as part of a P2P network, or 'Tor'
or the 'undernet', of course.
what if it gives off a warm glow that makes you feel all fuzzy
Then it's getting too hot and possibly has a short-circuit.
It has banks of cold cathode tubes.
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| User: "%" |
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19 Aug 2006 02:36:13 AM |
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"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4knso3FcvbpjU2@individual.net...
Whiskers wrote:
On 2006-08-18, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
"Whiskers" <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:lfghr3-kp6.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net...
snip
There's no reason to keep a computer running unless you need it as a
web
server or for people to dial into - or as part of a P2P network, or
'Tor'
or the 'undernet', of course.
what if it gives off a warm glow that makes you feel all fuzzy
Then it's getting too hot and possibly has a short-circuit.
It has banks of cold cathode tubes.
all are well
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