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"GuardianAngel" |
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08 Mar 2006 01:05:41 AM |
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empty or complete |
I don't believe in emptiness...it's like staring at a glass full
of nothing...there is actually something in it...atmosphere, oxygen,
molecules...but if you're thirsty and you want water then yes the
glass is empty...most of the time if what you have is not what you're
looking for, then it's nothing...if your life is not what you want it
to be , it makes you feel empty and incomplete...and there is always a
way to deal with it...accept what you have and try to understand it
because if you get what you've always wanted, you'll get attached
to it, feel dependable and later when it's gone you'll feel empty
again...I think if people want to feel "whole" and complete they
shouldn't be looking for a stimulation outside their inner world. If
you feel complete on the inside you won't need any help from the
outside to not feel empty...the glass was once full of water and it
seemed complete and now when the water is gone it's just empty...when
you stop expecting to find something in the glass then you'll be able
to realize that the glass itself is whole...remembering that
expectations lead to disappointment...
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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12 Mar 2006 03:05:31 AM |
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"GuardianAngel" <the_real_shadylady@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1141801541.383295.211510@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
I don't believe in emptiness...it's like staring at a glass full
of nothing...there is actually something in it...atmosphere, oxygen,
molecules ...but if you're thirsty and you want water then yes the
glass is empty...most of the time if what you have is not what you're
looking for, then it's nothing...if your life is not what you want it
to be , it makes you feel empty and incomplete...and there is always a
way to deal with it...accept what you have and try to understand it
because if you get what you've always wanted, you'll get attached
to it, feel dependable and later when it's gone you'll feel empty
again...I think if people want to feel "whole" and complete they
shouldn't be looking for a stimulation outside their inner world. If
you feel complete on the inside you won't need any help from the
outside to not feel empty...the glass was once full of water and it
seemed complete and now when the water is gone it's just empty...when
you stop expecting to find something in the glass then you'll be able
to realize that the glass itself is whole...remembering that
expectations lead to disappointment...
Profound. Could you condense this a little so I can have it engraved on my
tombstone. Thanks much.
--
Rhiannon
rhianon@sympatico.ca
The Labyrinth
http://thelabyrinthofr.blogspot.com
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| User: "RGB" |
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12 Mar 2006 10:09:15 AM |
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In article <twRQf.4$fy1.379@news20.bellglobal.com>,
"Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I don't believe in emptiness...it's like staring at a glass full
of nothing...there is actually something in it...atmosphere, oxygen,
molecules ...but if you're thirsty and you want water then yes the
glass is empty...most of the time if what you have is not what you're
looking for, then it's nothing...if your life is not what you want it
to be , it makes you feel empty and incomplete...and there is always a
way to deal with it...accept what you have and try to understand it
because if you get what you've always wanted, you'll get attached
to it, feel dependable and later when it's gone you'll feel empty
again...I think if people want to feel "whole" and complete they
shouldn't be looking for a stimulation outside their inner world. If
you feel complete on the inside you won't need any help from the
outside to not feel empty...the glass was once full of water and it
seemed complete and now when the water is gone it's just empty...when
you stop expecting to find something in the glass then you'll be able
to realize that the glass itself is whole...remembering that
expectations lead to disappointment...
Profound. Could you condense this a little so I can have it engraved
on my tombstone. Thanks much.
"Wow, look at the moon."
--
Support the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention's
"Out of the Darkness" overnight walks. Heal. Help. Hope.
http://tinyurl.com/l7v2b
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| User: "J D" |
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12 Mar 2006 11:21:55 AM |
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Yup,, be happy with yourself first and foremost,, I'm just learning to
do that,,
I always thought that I could only be happy if I had a person in my
life, now I'm seeing thats the wrong way to live, its actually an empty
way to live.
"The mind is its own place, and of itself / Can make a Heaven of Hell, a
Hell of Heaven,"
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| User: "cal" |
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08 Mar 2006 01:04:59 PM |
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"GuardianAngel" <the_real_shadylady@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1141801541.383295.211510@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
I don't believe in emptiness...it's like staring at a glass full
of nothing...there is actually something in it...atmosphere, oxygen,
molecules...but if you're thirsty and you want water then yes the
glass is empty...most of the time if what you have is not what you're
looking for, then it's nothing...if your life is not what you want it
to be , it makes you feel empty and incomplete...and there is always a
way to deal with it...accept what you have and try to understand it
because if you get what you've always wanted, you'll get attached
to it, feel dependable
do you mean "dependent"?
and later when it's gone you'll feel empty
again...I think if people want to feel "whole" and complete they
shouldn't be looking for a stimulation outside their inner world. If
you feel complete on the inside you won't need any help from the
outside to not feel empty...the glass was once full of water and it
seemed complete and now when the water is gone it's just empty...when
you stop expecting to find something in the glass then you'll be able
to realize that the glass itself is whole...remembering that
expectations lead to disappointment...
when you're a well, you don't need a glass.
when i was a kid, a glass was given to me with instructions and modeled
behavior that taught me how to keep getting other people to fill it for me,
and how to respond when they ask me to fill theirs for them. at first it was
just simple and sordid, but later it became a very intricate behavioral web.
it has always seemed to me that many people navigate it with success. i
never felt that i did, or ever could. something about it repels me. even
those who work it well are trapped. i see freedom in putting the glass down
by the side of the road and walking on without it.
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| User: "GuardianAngel" |
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09 Mar 2006 03:46:01 PM |
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cal wrote:
"GuardianAngel" <the_real_shadylady@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1141801541.383295.211510@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
I don't believe in emptiness...it's like staring at a glass full
of nothing...there is actually something in it...atmosphere, oxygen,
molecules...but if you're thirsty and you want water then yes the
glass is empty...most of the time if what you have is not what you're
looking for, then it's nothing...if your life is not what you want it
to be , it makes you feel empty and incomplete...and there is always a
way to deal with it...accept what you have and try to understand it
because if you get what you've always wanted, you'll get attached
to it, feel dependable
do you mean "dependent"?
and later when it's gone you'll feel empty
again...I think if people want to feel "whole" and complete they
shouldn't be looking for a stimulation outside their inner world. If
you feel complete on the inside you won't need any help from the
outside to not feel empty...the glass was once full of water and it
seemed complete and now when the water is gone it's just empty...when
you stop expecting to find something in the glass then you'll be able
to realize that the glass itself is whole...remembering that
expectations lead to disappointment...
when you're a well, you don't need a glass.
when i was a kid, a glass was given to me with instructions and modeled
behavior that taught me how to keep getting other people to fill it for me,
and how to respond when they ask me to fill theirs for them. at first it was
just simple and sordid, but later it became a very intricate behavioral web.
it has always seemed to me that many people navigate it with success. i
never felt that i did, or ever could. something about it repels me. even
those who work it well are trapped. i see freedom in putting the glass down
by the side of the road and walking on without it.
do you mean "dependent"?
yes my bad...i type like a total dork
when i was a kid, a glass was given to me with instructions and modeled
behavior that taught me how to keep getting other people to fill it for me,
and how to respond when they ask me to fill theirs for them.
if the glass represents life then you know that every person gets the
instructions and the modeled behavior at a very early age...you can't
change your past but you can let it change you in a positive way...i
think that nobody is able to "fill" your life and to make it complete
for you...you are able to choose what to give and to accept from others
it has always seemed to me that many people navigate it with success.
for me success means to be able to spend your life in your own way...
see freedom in putting the glass down
by the side of the road and walking on without it.
when i was little i used to think that life is like a huge house made
of glass and we are all trapped in it...it gives us comfort and
protects us from the unknown...while we are in it we think we can see
the sky and touch it but that's just an illusion created by the
"transparent" glass...i thought that if we want to be free we need to
break that glass house we call life...the scary thing is when you
realize that this "glass house" is actually inside of you and you can't
get rid of it that easy...
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| User: "punk" |
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12 Mar 2006 10:52:51 AM |
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angel, you never cease to amaze me. i always knew you were wise beyond
your years...you're like an old soul in a bouncing lil kid person. i
love it.
i hope you never lose your way.
GuardianAngel wrote:
cal wrote:
"GuardianAngel" <the_real_shadylady@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1141801541.383295.211510@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
I don't believe in emptiness...it's like staring at a glass full
of nothing...there is actually something in it...atmosphere, oxygen,
molecules...but if you're thirsty and you want water then yes the
glass is empty...most of the time if what you have is not what you're
looking for, then it's nothing...if your life is not what you want it
to be , it makes you feel empty and incomplete...and there is always a
way to deal with it...accept what you have and try to understand it
because if you get what you've always wanted, you'll get attached
to it, feel dependable
do you mean "dependent"?
and later when it's gone you'll feel empty
again...I think if people want to feel "whole" and complete they
shouldn't be looking for a stimulation outside their inner world. If
you feel complete on the inside you won't need any help from the
outside to not feel empty...the glass was once full of water and it
seemed complete and now when the water is gone it's just empty...when
you stop expecting to find something in the glass then you'll be able
to realize that the glass itself is whole...remembering that
expectations lead to disappointment...
when you're a well, you don't need a glass.
when i was a kid, a glass was given to me with instructions and modeled
behavior that taught me how to keep getting other people to fill it for me,
and how to respond when they ask me to fill theirs for them. at first it was
just simple and sordid, but later it became a very intricate behavioral web.
it has always seemed to me that many people navigate it with success. i
never felt that i did, or ever could. something about it repels me. even
those who work it well are trapped. i see freedom in putting the glass down
by the side of the road and walking on without it.
do you mean "dependent"?
yes my bad...i type like a total dork
when i was a kid, a glass was given to me with instructions and modeled
behavior that taught me how to keep getting other people to fill it for me,
and how to respond when they ask me to fill theirs for them.
if the glass represents life then you know that every person gets the
instructions and the modeled behavior at a very early age...you can't
change your past but you can let it change you in a positive way...i
think that nobody is able to "fill" your life and to make it complete
for you...you are able to choose what to give and to accept from others
it has always seemed to me that many people navigate it with success.
for me success means to be able to spend your life in your own way...
see freedom in putting the glass down
by the side of the road and walking on without it.
when i was little i used to think that life is like a huge house made
of glass and we are all trapped in it...it gives us comfort and
protects us from the unknown...while we are in it we think we can see
the sky and touch it but that's just an illusion created by the
"transparent" glass...i thought that if we want to be free we need to
break that glass house we call life...the scary thing is when you
realize that this "glass house" is actually inside of you and you can't
get rid of it that easy...
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| User: "%" |
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09 Mar 2006 03:55:16 PM |
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hi
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| User: "GuardianAngel" |
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09 Mar 2006 03:56:49 PM |
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% wrote:
hi
hi Dave...
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| User: "%" |
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09 Mar 2006 04:00:40 PM |
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"GuardianAngel" <the_real_shadylady@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1141941408.974107.222510@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
% wrote:
hi
hi Dave...
who's Dave , why are all these semi and new people calling me Dave
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| User: "GuardianAngel" |
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09 Mar 2006 04:12:24 PM |
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% wrote:
"GuardianAngel" <the_real_shadylady@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1141941408.974107.222510@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
% wrote:
hi
hi Dave...
who's Dave , why are all these semi and new people calling me Dave
a few weeks ago i asked you what's your name and you said it's Dave.. i
think i still keep the message in my inbox..it's one of the many emails
i received from you since i joined this group
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| User: "%" |
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09 Mar 2006 04:16:11 PM |
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"GuardianAngel" <the_real_shadylady@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1141942344.172676.13120@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
% wrote:
"GuardianAngel" <the_real_shadylady@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1141941408.974107.222510@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
% wrote:
hi
hi Dave...
who's Dave , why are all these semi and new people calling me Dave
a few weeks ago i asked you what's your name and you said it's Dave.. i
think i still keep the message in my inbox..it's one of the many emails
i received from you since i joined this group
yes you have recieved a lot of replies from me in response to the mails you
sent me , i think it would be rude not to at least answer you , but if you
got one that says my name is Dave it maybe that someone else is sending you
mails in my name
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| User: "Jane" |
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09 Mar 2006 05:43:11 PM |
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"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:cvydnajxRY6FNI3ZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
yes you have recieved a lot of replies from me in response to the mails
you
sent me , i think it would be rude not to at least answer you , but if you
got one that says my name is Dave it maybe that someone else is sending
you
mails in my name
yeah cuz isn't your name %
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| User: "%" |
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09 Mar 2006 05:57:19 PM |
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"Jane" <jarsenal66nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:h13Qf.73$HV2.63@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:cvydnajxRY6FNI3ZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
yes you have recieved a lot of replies from me in response to the mails
you
sent me , i think it would be rude not to at least answer you , but if
you
got one that says my name is Dave it maybe that someone else is sending
you
mails in my name
yeah cuz isn't your name %
no , its Betsy Wetsy
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| User: "purpleveggie" |
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09 Mar 2006 05:53:08 PM |
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Jane wrote:
"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:cvydnajxRY6FNI3ZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
yes you have recieved a lot of replies from me in response to the mails
you
sent me , i think it would be rude not to at least answer you , but if you
got one that says my name is Dave it maybe that someone else is sending
you
mails in my name
yeah cuz isn't your name %
its 100% certain his name might be dave?
pv has just got in from the pub.
he dont like posting after drinkie-poos
coz he might be a naughty boy.
and tell someone to stick their head up their bottom(butt).
if i do(and i dont intend to)i ask to be forgiven in advance.
please dont put me i the hole...i beg you...its dark and full of creepy
crawlies.
like my mind in a sort of way.
scary but comforting.
odd innit?
:O)
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| User: "humble.life" |
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08 Mar 2006 01:24:28 AM |
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GuardianAngel wrote:
I don't believe in emptiness...it's like staring at a glass full
of nothing...there is actually something in it...atmosphere, oxygen,
molecules...but if you're thirsty and you want water then yes the
glass is empty...most of the time if what you have is not what you're
looking for, then it's nothing...if your life is not what you want it
to be , it makes you feel empty and incomplete...and there is always a
way to deal with it...accept what you have and try to understand it
because if you get what you've always wanted, you'll get attached
to it, feel dependable and later when it's gone you'll feel empty
again...I think if people want to feel "whole" and complete they
shouldn't be looking for a stimulation outside their inner world. If
you feel complete on the inside you won't need any help from the
outside to not feel empty...the glass was once full of water and it
seemed complete and now when the water is gone it's just empty...when
you stop expecting to find something in the glass then you'll be able
to realize that the glass itself is whole...remembering that
expectations lead to disappointment...
I need your brain.
How much?
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| User: "jill" |
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08 Mar 2006 11:37:26 AM |
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humble.life wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:
I don't believe in emptiness...it's like staring at a glass full
of nothing...there is actually something in it...atmosphere, oxygen,
molecules...but if you're thirsty and you want water then yes the
glass is empty...most of the time if what you have is not what you're
looking for, then it's nothing...if your life is not what you want it
to be , it makes you feel empty and incomplete...and there is always a
way to deal with it...accept what you have and try to understand it
because if you get what you've always wanted, you'll get attached
to it, feel dependable and later when it's gone you'll feel empty
again...I think if people want to feel "whole" and complete they
shouldn't be looking for a stimulation outside their inner world. If
you feel complete on the inside you won't need any help from the
outside to not feel empty...the glass was once full of water and it
seemed complete and now when the water is gone it's just empty...when
you stop expecting to find something in the glass then you'll be able
to realize that the glass itself is whole...remembering that
expectations lead to disappointment...
I need your brain.
How much?
This really made me laugh,, thanks, jill
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| User: "humble.life" |
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08 Mar 2006 12:13:02 PM |
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jill wrote:
humble.life wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:
I don't believe in emptiness...it's like staring at a glass full
of nothing...there is actually something in it...atmosphere, oxygen,
molecules...but if you're thirsty and you want water then yes the
glass is empty...most of the time if what you have is not what you're
looking for, then it's nothing...if your life is not what you want it
to be , it makes you feel empty and incomplete...and there is always a
way to deal with it...accept what you have and try to understand it
because if you get what you've always wanted, you'll get attached
to it, feel dependable and later when it's gone you'll feel empty
again...I think if people want to feel "whole" and complete they
shouldn't be looking for a stimulation outside their inner world. If
you feel complete on the inside you won't need any help from the
outside to not feel empty...the glass was once full of water and it
seemed complete and now when the water is gone it's just empty...when
you stop expecting to find something in the glass then you'll be able
to realize that the glass itself is whole...remembering that
expectations lead to disappointment...
I need your brain.
How much?
This really made me laugh,, thanks, jill
ahh, well, you know the saying, misery breeds contempt and i've done
that bit.
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| User: "GuardianAngel" |
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08 Mar 2006 07:59:50 AM |
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humble.life wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:
I don't believe in emptiness...it's like staring at a glass full
of nothing...there is actually something in it...atmosphere, oxygen,
molecules...but if you're thirsty and you want water then yes the
glass is empty...most of the time if what you have is not what you're
looking for, then it's nothing...if your life is not what you want it
to be , it makes you feel empty and incomplete...and there is always a
way to deal with it...accept what you have and try to understand it
because if you get what you've always wanted, you'll get attached
to it, feel dependable and later when it's gone you'll feel empty
again...I think if people want to feel "whole" and complete they
shouldn't be looking for a stimulation outside their inner world. If
you feel complete on the inside you won't need any help from the
outside to not feel empty...the glass was once full of water and it
seemed complete and now when the water is gone it's just empty...when
you stop expecting to find something in the glass then you'll be able
to realize that the glass itself is whole...remembering that
expectations lead to disappointment...
I need your brain.
How much?
you're funny =)
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| User: "humble.life" |
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08 Mar 2006 08:01:34 AM |
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GuardianAngel wrote:
humble.life wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:
I don't believe in emptiness...it's like staring at a glass full
of nothing...there is actually something in it...atmosphere, oxygen,
molecules...but if you're thirsty and you want water then yes the
glass is empty...most of the time if what you have is not what you're
looking for, then it's nothing...if your life is not what you want it
to be , it makes you feel empty and incomplete...and there is always a
way to deal with it...accept what you have and try to understand it
because if you get what you've always wanted, you'll get attached
to it, feel dependable and later when it's gone you'll feel empty
again...I think if people want to feel "whole" and complete they
shouldn't be looking for a stimulation outside their inner world. If
you feel complete on the inside you won't need any help from the
outside to not feel empty...the glass was once full of water and it
seemed complete and now when the water is gone it's just empty...when
you stop expecting to find something in the glass then you'll be able
to realize that the glass itself is whole...remembering that
expectations lead to disappointment...
I need your brain.
How much?
you're funny =)
you're very perceptive, intelligent and deserve to do well if you can
keep up your insights, and how to word them....
....so.... how much ?
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| User: "GuardianAngel" |
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08 Mar 2006 08:35:11 AM |
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humble.life wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:
humble.life wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:
I don't believe in emptiness...it's like staring at a glass full
of nothing...there is actually something in it...atmosphere, oxygen,
molecules...but if you're thirsty and you want water then yes the
glass is empty...most of the time if what you have is not what you're
looking for, then it's nothing...if your life is not what you want it
to be , it makes you feel empty and incomplete...and there is always a
way to deal with it...accept what you have and try to understand it
because if you get what you've always wanted, you'll get attached
to it, feel dependable and later when it's gone you'll feel empty
again...I think if people want to feel "whole" and complete they
shouldn't be looking for a stimulation outside their inner world. If
you feel complete on the inside you won't need any help from the
outside to not feel empty...the glass was once full of water and it
seemed complete and now when the water is gone it's just empty...when
you stop expecting to find something in the glass then you'll be able
to realize that the glass itself is whole...remembering that
expectations lead to disappointment...
I need your brain.
How much?
you're funny =)
you're very perceptive, intelligent and deserve to do well if you can
keep up your insights, and how to word them....
...so.... how much ?
thanks..i'm glad you think so =) anyway...how are you today?
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| User: "humble.life" |
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| Title: Re: empty or complete |
08 Mar 2006 01:12:53 PM |
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GuardianAngel wrote:
humble.life wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:
humble.life wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:
I don't believe in emptiness...it's like staring at a glass full
of nothing...there is actually something in it...atmosphere, oxygen,
molecules...but if you're thirsty and you want water then yes the
glass is empty...most of the time if what you have is not what you're
looking for, then it's nothing...if your life is not what you want it
to be , it makes you feel empty and incomplete...and there is always a
way to deal with it...accept what you have and try to understand it
because if you get what you've always wanted, you'll get attached
to it, feel dependable and later when it's gone you'll feel empty
again...I think if people want to feel "whole" and complete they
shouldn't be looking for a stimulation outside their inner world. If
you feel complete on the inside you won't need any help from the
outside to not feel empty...the glass was once full of water and it
seemed complete and now when the water is gone it's just empty...when
you stop expecting to find something in the glass then you'll be able
to realize that the glass itself is whole...remembering that
expectations lead to disappointment...
I need your brain.
How much?
you're funny =)
you're very perceptive, intelligent and deserve to do well if you can
keep up your insights, and how to word them....
...so.... how much ?
thanks..i'm glad you think so =) anyway...how are you today?
ahh, i did a mark-newsgroup-as-read thing, hence a huge delay
i'm moderate to ok today, which is a noticeable improvement
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| User: "punk" |
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| Title: Re: empty or complete |
12 Mar 2006 10:43:57 AM |
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hey angel...i love the imagery. from now on i'll never see the glass
as half empty. it's now half full of water and half full of air
molecules...
how r u girl?
GuardianAngel wrote:
I don't believe in emptiness...it's like staring at a glass full
of nothing...there is actually something in it...atmosphere, oxygen,
molecules...but if you're thirsty and you want water then yes the
glass is empty...most of the time if what you have is not what you're
looking for, then it's nothing...if your life is not what you want it
to be , it makes you feel empty and incomplete...and there is always a
way to deal with it...accept what you have and try to understand it
because if you get what you've always wanted, you'll get attached
to it, feel dependable and later when it's gone you'll feel empty
again...I think if people want to feel "whole" and complete they
shouldn't be looking for a stimulation outside their inner world. If
you feel complete on the inside you won't need any help from the
outside to not feel empty...the glass was once full of water and it
seemed complete and now when the water is gone it's just empty...when
you stop expecting to find something in the glass then you'll be able
to realize that the glass itself is whole...remembering that
expectations lead to disappointment...
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| User: "eoygeo" |
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| Title: Re: empty or complete |
12 Mar 2006 01:00:58 PM |
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I felt that I had been caught up with a hey wires the wires so
entangled for so long. Since.
I would select the most pieces of music I love more than dozens that
would play me a sky and what would I see? a selection of time, a time
to fly sky, a time to see what beneath imagine hang on a kite study
how to decend on, to a familier place where I feel at home where I find
a time to select.
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