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User: "Trishamolson"
Date: 14 Jun 2004 01:13:37 PM
Object: Exhausted
And I want to scream and cry hysterically and there is no place I can, and
there is no one to whom I can turn and I really really don't know if I can do
this. Going nuts working on this thesis -- you just can't gallop through Dante
at neck break pace, and put all these thinkers in proper context with the snap
of a finger . . . and the move is in four weeks, and I am so so behind on
lesson plans which I MUST do starting tomorrow, and I am a mess -- not pretty
to look at at all. . . And I am so so so tierd and physically weak, so sick of
not being able to walk or move in simple fashion from a chair to the shower.
And I feel stupid and no matter how hard I fight it, and I do indeed fight it,
I keep coming back to feeling that John simply broke me, burnt me, ate me up
and cracked my bones and twisted my brain and ripped my soul to pieces and . .
..here I am . . . a wreck that can never never spring like the Phoneix from the
fire.
I allowed this. I did not stop him. I was arrogant about my strength, superior
about my understanding of socio-pathy, and I got what I deserved. And now I am
a broken splintered china cup that can never be glued back to its original
state.
I do not wish anyone -- anyone to take her or his life, but in my case, I
firmly believe that I do not primarily because I am a coward and unable to face
the truth -- to confront it with a steady gaze -- I have become trash.
Gawd I feel so so bad for Maria. She really is special and so much deserves a
mama she can be proud of and feel secure with.
Rosena
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User: "JJ9691"

Title: Re: Exhausted 15 Jun 2004 09:27:37 AM
oh! self loathing that evil beast! don't let it wear you down, you know you
have value! especially to maria, I think you will land on your feet, no pun
intended! jill
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User: "Luna"

Title: Re: Exhausted 14 Jun 2004 01:34:10 PM
"Trishamolson" <trishamolson@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040614141337.04650.00000659@mb-m25.aol.com...
<snip>


I do not wish anyone -- anyone to take her or his life, but in my case, I
firmly believe that I do not primarily because I am a coward and unable to

face

the truth -- to confront it with a steady gaze -- I have become trash.

Rosena, you should never say this about yourself. You aren't trash.
I so rarely think talk therapy is of any value except in certain cases to do
with trauma. After andre died I talked to someone to get rid of the horror of
it all, it really helped. Almost like you'd deal with a phobia by repeated,
graduated exposure. Wonder if this may help with the John obsession.


Gawd I feel so so bad for Maria. She really is special and so much deserves a
mama she can be proud of and feel secure with.

You may not be perfect but I suspect she's very proud of you. At least until
adoloscence, at which point you're doomed. :)
Jean


Rosena

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User: "Trishamolson"

Title: Re: Exhausted 14 Jun 2004 03:17:33 PM
Thanks Jean -- I always feel . . .I don't know, more "okay" and not so "weird"
when you post me something. I think my days of talk therapy need to start
again in New York. I can't quite let go on my own, though I am noticing that
lately he seems very far off in a past rather than eternally present. I think
this is a good sign . . .
But I guess I am having a stupid self-pity party today. (thanks for not
pointing that out to me :) )
Early to bed and lesson plans tomorrow.
Hope you are well. Everytime I hear about the age of your son I am shocked. I
think of you as wise but with the spirit of a 25 year old.
me
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User: "Luna"

Title: Re: Exhausted 14 Jun 2004 03:26:08 PM
"Trishamolson" <trishamolson@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040614161733.04221.00000734@mb-m25.aol.com...



Thanks Jean -- I always feel . . .I don't know, more "okay" and not so "weird"
when you post me something. I think my days of talk therapy need to start
again in New York. I can't quite let go on my own, though I am noticing that
lately he seems very far off in a past rather than eternally present. I think
this is a good sign . . .

It is. :) (note to self: post to Rosena more often)


But I guess I am having a stupid self-pity party today. (thanks for not
pointing that out to me :) )

heh, those days are over Rosena. Well, no promises....


Early to bed and lesson plans tomorrow.
Hope you are well. Everytime I hear about the age of your son I am shocked. I
think of you as wise but with the spirit of a 25 year old.

I am 42 years old, Rosena. Extremely immature, though. :)
Since you probably won't read this until tomorrow, hope you have a good sleep.
Won't it be nice to be in a similar time zone again? You can post with the
North American flow.
Jean


me

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User: "used2be"

Title: Re: Exhausted 14 Jun 2004 02:55:41 PM
"Trishamolson" <trishamolson@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040614141337.04650.00000659@mb-m25.aol.com...


And I want to scream and cry hysterically and there is no place I can, and
there is no one to whom I can turn and I really really don't know if I can

do

this.

oh, how i understand this feeling. like you are inside of yourself and
trying to escape but completely unable to. and no one on the outside has a
clue of the horrific battle going on on in the inside.
Going nuts working on this thesis -- you just can't gallop through Dante

at neck break pace, and put all these thinkers in proper context with the

snap

of a finger . . . and the move is in four weeks, and I am so so behind on
lesson plans which I MUST do starting tomorrow

this is a large part of your problem right now. the stress at having to
have all of this done. can you break it down into small manageable tasks
and get it done that way? and then reward yourself with a break or a soda
or a cookie (anything!) when each small task is done? even if it means
breaking down into 15 or 30 min segments. that is what i have to do. i do
15 min at a time sometimes. because we can do ANY thing for 15 minutes.
and if you can make it 30, then 45, then an hour the next time, then that's
great.
, and I am a mess -- not pretty

to look at at all. . . And I am so so so tierd and physically weak, so

sick of

not being able to walk or move in simple fashion from a chair to the

shower.
i'm sorry that your situation makes movement so difficult. i can't imagine
how you must feel in this regard. i admire the strength you show in just
getting through each and every day. i'm fully mobile (except for
fibromyalgia, which is nothing compared to what you face), and still i am so
dreadfully weary each and every day. life is exhausting. just sitting
sometimes is exhausting. it's all one huge endurance race. at least that's
how it feels at times. we need to figure out a way to move past that
feeling.
perhaps if you forced yourself to shower or bathe every morning before doing
anything else, and then made yourself do your hair and put on makeup, then
maybe you'd feel better. sometimes that works for me. making myself more
attractive makes me feel a bit better. yet, i also understand that some
days you simply can't make yourself care HOW bad you look. it's all an
effort. each day requires endurance. we gotta keep fighting this feeling.


And I feel stupid and no matter how hard I fight it, and I do indeed fight

it,

I keep coming back to feeling that John simply broke me, burnt me, ate me

up

and cracked my bones and twisted my brain and ripped my soul to pieces and

.. .

.here I am . . . a wreck that can never never spring like the Phoneix from

the

fire.

and he wins. each time you do this, he wins. it serves no purpose,
thinking this way. you won because you have maria. you won because you got
away from him and don't have to endure his cruelty anymore. don't let him
win by constantly telling yourself that he broke you. he couldn't do that
without your permission. you've got to stop allowing him that much control
over you!!

I allowed this. I did not stop him. I was arrogant about my strength,

superior

about my understanding of socio-pathy, and I got what I deserved. And now

I am

a broken splintered china cup that can never be glued back to its original
state.

maybe you didn't stop him, but you can stop him now. he can't have this
much power over you without your say-so. so STOP SAYING SO!!!! tell
yourself that you are better off without him. that you were blessed to have
had him in your life if for no other reason than he gave you maria. tell
yourself he's gone from your life now. dumped out like yesterday's trash.
even if you have to tell yourself this a million times, keep doing so until
you believe it. he's trash and he can't hurt you anymore. it's up to you.
it's not his decision anymore to keep hurting you. it's all up to YOU.


I do not wish anyone -- anyone to take her or his life, but in my case, I
firmly believe that I do not primarily because I am a coward and unable to

face

the truth -- to confront it with a steady gaze -- I have become trash.

maybe it's because there is a part of you that refuses to die. a part that
won't give up. that's what you need to tell yourself instead of this lie
that you are trash. you are NOT trash. there are a million reasons that
you aren't trash (you are a good mom, an incredible thinker, an amazing
writer and teacher...etc, etc). those are the things you need to focus on
instead. telling yourself that you are trash accomplishes nothing except to
drag you down further into the pit. maybe you can tell yourself you "feel"
like trash, but do NOT allow yourself to say that you ARE trash. there is a
big difference. feelings are just that. reality is what you need to focus
on instead. acknowledge your feelings, and then move on to what is real and
what isn't.


Gawd I feel so so bad for Maria. She really is special and so much

deserves a

mama she can be proud of and feel secure with.

this part, i also understand. my heart breaks at the pain i've caused my
girls. at the genetic flaws i have passed on to my oldest daughter. my
other 2 don't show any tendencies of severe depression yet, but they are
still young and still might. but we have to also concentrate on our good
qualities and accept the fact that we are doing the best we can. yes, our
children deserve more. but as long as we are alive, we can keep trying to
give that to them.
keep hanging in there, rosena. i'm counting on you.
always,
u2b
.
User: "Trishamolson"

Title: Re: Exhausted 14 Jun 2004 03:24:27 PM
Oh Cindy,
I am so moved you took the time to write this long reply when you are not
feeling so well yourself. You know, you are right. It always helps to do the
hair, put on the make-up, a bit of perfume. Need to not give up on womanhood.
Yes, you are right too that need to let John go in a final and decided way
inside myself and to not see him as a victor over my stability. Like Jean
said, I think some therapy is called for pretty soon here.
Sorry to complain about legs . . .I HATE self-pity. Just one of those days
where all is a struggle, you know yes? I am going to do what you said and break
up the work day more. Right now I go from bed to desk in morning and stay
working with short dinner break until about 12:30 a.m., then bed and over
again.
We got to be well for our children eh? Don't you forget how strong they are. I
must remember too. Both our children know we love them and that is truly the
key to their stability I think.
Best
Rosena
.

User: "lyssa"

Title: Re: Exhausted 16 Jun 2004 11:05:37 PM
x-no-archive: yes
"used2be" <cindyb@ERASETHISaustin.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Trishamolson" <trishamolson@aol.com> wrote in message
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And I want to scream and cry hysterically and there is no place I can,

and

there is no one to whom I can turn and I really really don't know if I

can

do

this.


oh, how i understand this feeling. like you are inside of yourself and
trying to escape but completely unable to. and no one on the outside has

a

clue of the horrific battle going on on in the inside.

Going nuts working on this thesis -- you just can't gallop through Dante

at neck break pace, and put all these thinkers in proper context with

the

snap

of a finger . . . and the move is in four weeks, and I am so so behind

on

lesson plans which I MUST do starting tomorrow


this is a large part of your problem right now. the stress at having to
have all of this done. can you break it down into small manageable tasks
and get it done that way? and then reward yourself with a break or a soda
or a cookie (anything!) when each small task is done? even if it means
breaking down into 15 or 30 min segments. that is what i have to do. i

do

15 min at a time sometimes. because we can do ANY thing for 15 minutes.
and if you can make it 30, then 45, then an hour the next time, then

that's

great.

, and I am a mess -- not pretty

to look at at all. . . And I am so so so tierd and physically weak, so

sick of

not being able to walk or move in simple fashion from a chair to the

shower.

i'm sorry that your situation makes movement so difficult. i can't

imagine

how you must feel in this regard. i admire the strength you show in just
getting through each and every day. i'm fully mobile (except for
fibromyalgia, which is nothing compared to what you face), and still i am

so

dreadfully weary each and every day. life is exhausting. just sitting
sometimes is exhausting. it's all one huge endurance race. at least

that's

how it feels at times. we need to figure out a way to move past that
feeling.

perhaps if you forced yourself to shower or bathe every morning before

doing

anything else, and then made yourself do your hair and put on makeup, then
maybe you'd feel better. sometimes that works for me. making myself more
attractive makes me feel a bit better. yet, i also understand that some
days you simply can't make yourself care HOW bad you look. it's all an
effort. each day requires endurance. we gotta keep fighting this

feeling.



And I feel stupid and no matter how hard I fight it, and I do indeed

fight

it,

I keep coming back to feeling that John simply broke me, burnt me, ate

me

up

and cracked my bones and twisted my brain and ripped my soul to pieces

and

. .

.here I am . . . a wreck that can never never spring like the Phoneix

from

the

fire.


and he wins. each time you do this, he wins. it serves no purpose,
thinking this way. you won because you have maria. you won because you

got

away from him and don't have to endure his cruelty anymore. don't let him
win by constantly telling yourself that he broke you. he couldn't do that
without your permission. you've got to stop allowing him that much

control

over you!!

I allowed this. I did not stop him. I was arrogant about my strength,

superior

about my understanding of socio-pathy, and I got what I deserved. And

now

I am

a broken splintered china cup that can never be glued back to its

original

state.


maybe you didn't stop him, but you can stop him now. he can't have this
much power over you without your say-so. so STOP SAYING SO!!!! tell
yourself that you are better off without him. that you were blessed to

have

had him in your life if for no other reason than he gave you maria. tell
yourself he's gone from your life now. dumped out like yesterday's trash.
even if you have to tell yourself this a million times, keep doing so

until

you believe it. he's trash and he can't hurt you anymore. it's up to

you.

it's not his decision anymore to keep hurting you. it's all up to YOU.


I do not wish anyone -- anyone to take her or his life, but in my case,

I

firmly believe that I do not primarily because I am a coward and unable

to

face

the truth -- to confront it with a steady gaze -- I have become trash.


maybe it's because there is a part of you that refuses to die. a part

that

won't give up. that's what you need to tell yourself instead of this lie
that you are trash. you are NOT trash. there are a million reasons that
you aren't trash (you are a good mom, an incredible thinker, an amazing
writer and teacher...etc, etc). those are the things you need to focus on
instead. telling yourself that you are trash accomplishes nothing except

to

drag you down further into the pit. maybe you can tell yourself you

"feel"

like trash, but do NOT allow yourself to say that you ARE trash. there is

a

big difference. feelings are just that. reality is what you need to

focus

on instead. acknowledge your feelings, and then move on to what is real

and

what isn't.


Gawd I feel so so bad for Maria. She really is special and so much

deserves a

mama she can be proud of and feel secure with.


this part, i also understand. my heart breaks at the pain i've caused my
girls. at the genetic flaws i have passed on to my oldest daughter. my
other 2 don't show any tendencies of severe depression yet, but they are
still young and still might. but we have to also concentrate on our good
qualities and accept the fact that we are doing the best we can. yes, our
children deserve more. but as long as we are alive, we can keep trying to
give that to them.

keep hanging in there, rosena. i'm counting on you.

always,

u2b

this response is so wonderful
pieces of it i've saved for myself
wishing goodstuffs for both of you,
lyssa
.


User: "% surfs@uniserve"

Title: Re: Exhausted 14 Jun 2004 01:19:19 PM
"Trishamolson" <trishamolson@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040614141337.04650.00000659@mb-m25.aol.com...


And I want to scream and cry hysterically and there is no place I can, and
there is no one to whom I can turn and I really really don't know if I can

do

this. Going nuts working on this thesis -- you just can't gallop through

Dante

at neck break pace, and put all these thinkers in proper context with the

snap

of a finger . . . and the move is in four weeks, and I am so so behind on
lesson plans which I MUST do starting tomorrow, and I am a mess -- not

pretty

to look at at all. . . And I am so so so tierd and physically weak, so

sick of

not being able to walk or move in simple fashion from a chair to the

shower.


And I feel stupid and no matter how hard I fight it, and I do indeed fight

it,

I keep coming back to feeling that John simply broke me, burnt me, ate me

up

and cracked my bones and twisted my brain and ripped my soul to pieces and

.. .

.here I am . . . a wreck that can never never spring like the Phoneix from

the

fire.
I allowed this. I did not stop him. I was arrogant about my strength,

superior

about my understanding of socio-pathy, and I got what I deserved. And now

I am

a broken splintered china cup that can never be glued back to its original
state.

I do not wish anyone -- anyone to take her or his life, but in my case, I
firmly believe that I do not primarily because I am a coward and unable to

face

the truth -- to confront it with a steady gaze -- I have become trash.

Gawd I feel so so bad for Maria. She really is special and so much

deserves a

mama she can be proud of and feel secure with.

Rosena

and around
.
User: "Trishamolson"

Title: Re: Exhausted 15 Jun 2004 12:29:07 PM
Came to understand what was going on with "coughing up" and "snot" and all
references. I see I missed the "fun."
No problem, complaint withdrawn.
Rosena
.
User: "K-9"

Title: Re: Exhausted 15 Jun 2004 05:22:38 PM
On 15 Jun 2004 17:29:07 GMT,
(Trishamolson)
<wrote in message>



Came to understand what was going on with "coughing up" and "snot" and all
references. I see I missed the "fun."
No problem, complaint withdrawn.

Rosena

the trick is remembering to reset 'followup' field after the fun.
.



User: "K-9"

Title: Re: Exhausted 15 Jun 2004 01:38:26 AM
On 14 Jun 2004 18:13:37 GMT,
(Trishamolson)
<wrote the following>


Going nuts working on this thesis -- you just can't gallop through Dante
at neck break pace, and put all these thinkers in proper context with the snap
of a finger . . .

Rosena

Sure you can, put all these great thinkers in proper context.
Use the new Thesis Writer Deluxe v.8 ...
(with new anti fraud detection algorithm)
All the suffering, half the time,
especially after submitting output. <g
I wondered who was this Beatrice you've mentioned.
I've been looking at Paget Toynbee's Dante Alighieri, His Life and
Works.
best wishes on the process

K-9

.
User: "% surfs@uniserve"

Title: Re: Exhausted 15 Jun 2004 01:48:45 AM
"K-9" <bark@bark.com> licked his and said

On 14 Jun 2004 18:13:37 GMT,

(Trishamolson)<threw up

in a snotball


Going nuts working on this thesis -- you just can't gallop through

Dante

at neck break pace, and put all these thinkers in proper context with the

snap

of a finger . . .

Rosena


Sure you can, put all these great thinkers in proper context.
Use the new Thesis Writer Deluxe v.8 ...
(with new anti fraud detection algorithm)
All the suffering, half the time,
especially after submitting output. <g

I wondered who was this Beatrice you've mentioned.
I've been looking at Paget Toynbee's Dante Alighieri, His Life and
Works.

best wishes on the process


K-9

.
User: "Trishamolson"

Title: Re: Exhausted 15 Jun 2004 09:45:22 AM

"K-9" <bark@bark.com> licked his and said

On 14 Jun 2004 18:13:37 GMT,

(Trishamolson)<threw up

in a snotball

I am assuming you wrote this Dave and it is not a troll? If so, I will never
respond to you again.
Rosena
.



User: "Contrarian"

Title: Re: Exhausted 14 Jun 2004 11:25:08 PM
Trishamolson <trishamolson@aol.com> wrote:


Going nuts working on this thesis -- you just can't gallop through Dante
at neck break pace, and put all these thinkers in proper context with
the snap of a finger

s/Dante/Physical Chem/

and I am so so behind on lesson plans which I MUST do starting tomorrow,

and
s/lesson plans/Lab Reports/
and I have heard something like this before, from someone dear
to me in a Chemistry degree program. This person was saying how
it was all useless and that they thought they were a complete failure...
etc. etc. Very extreme and atypical for them. I was at the graduation
a week or so ago :-)
This is "normal" academic craziness (so far) This person had
coped with being "cheated" in some research projects (another
faculty member's term, who later leaked details to the school paper)
and several other events but these this idiot lab reports although each
one was not that big a deal, there were too many of them, and it prevented
this person from learning the "real stuff" in a satisfactory (to
them) manner provoked this apparent crisis that I am happy to say
resolved.
On the one hand this Chemistry Dept. is a model of pedagogical
excellence but these islands of insanity remain and I myself
am angry at them because of the unnecessary pain
that has been caused. I _don't care_ that the ppl in charge
had to make do with slide rules and log tables and mimeos, etc....
But you are not in a chemistry program so I will desist.
.. And I am so so so tierd and physically weak, so sick of

not being able to walk or move in simple fashion from a chair to the shower.

Oh wow.

And I feel stupid and no matter how hard I fight it, and I do indeed fight it,

And you have these other trauma/traumata that get
triggered when your system is weak. When I get some minor
illness the knee that the car hit starts to hurt again. Is it
like this?
.

User: "Franz Bestuchev"

Title: Re: Exhausted 14 Jun 2004 04:41:03 PM
Trishamolson wrote:

And I want to scream

Turn on the CAPS LOCK and post again. :)
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