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Sociology > Depression |
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"auh" |
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07 Mar 2004 08:17:21 AM |
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Faith and Belief |
What is the difference between faith and belief? Does religion come
into the equation?
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| User: "Spudminer" |
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| Title: Re: Faith and Belief |
07 Mar 2004 11:33:16 AM |
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"auh" <auh1000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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What is the difference between faith and belief? Does religion come
into the equation?
I never had any problem myself with the difference but could never get
a fundamentalist to agree with me.
Belief to me must be based on empirical evidence and is thus a
self-deceiving consolation to those fearful of a godless disinterested
universe.
Faith, on the other hand is an expression of strong confidence in a set
system of religious theories presented as fact.
Confusing the two is in effect just a tool used by dishonest proselytisers
to obfuscate and confuse others
thus limiting the ability initially of the potential convert to discern
between the two until that potential convert is
reeled in and has themselves invested emotionally in the theories to an
extent where they too will not challenge anything
that might undermine that emotional and intellectual investment to the
extent that they might end up back at spiritual square one, that is, again
being faced with the existential angst that drove them to seek succuour in
religion in the first place.
SM
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| User: "Whateverafter" |
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| Title: Re: Faith and Belief |
07 Mar 2004 03:01:10 PM |
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Subject: Faith and Belief
From: (auh)
Date: 3/7/2004 8:17 AM Central America Standard Time
Message-id: <3d8b5fe6.0403070617.6019821b@posting.google.com>
What is the difference between faith and belief? Does religion come
into the equation?
Look at it this way; one can 'believe' almost anything, if that's what that
person wishes to believe. They can believe in ghosts, the hereafter, space
aliens, fairies, knomes, gods and godesses of their choosing. It really
doesn't take evidence to believe something. Mayn ppl are in fact taken in by
false advertising because it may sound good and they are taken in and believe
the lies. Or they may choose to beleive their mate, even when that mate has
proven unfaithful in the past, merely because they 'want' to believe them.
On the other hand, to have true 'faith' in someone or something is based on
evidence. If I 'knew' my best friend or husband or etc, was a good man, a
good person, and had always done what he said he would, and had always been
kind to me, and I could trust his word, then I could have 'faith' in him as I
was aquainted with his qualites, so I would be able to put my 'faith' or trust
in him based on what I knew.
Hebrews in fact says it this way "Faith is the '"'assured' expectation of
things hoped for, the 'evident' demonstration of reality though not beheld."
Heb.11:1
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| User: "Nom dePlume nomdeplume1000-at-yahoo.com" |
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| Title: Re: Faith and Belief |
07 Mar 2004 02:07:23 PM |
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I define "belief" as a conclusion that a hypothesis is true, based on
examination of evidence, in the form of empirically-observable
phenomena, that is sufficiently detailed as to allow a reasonably firm
inference of truth or falsity.
I define "faith" as a belief that is based not on
empirically-observable phenomena, but on other motivations. The
motivations can be any of a number of things, including (but not
limited to) wishful thinking.
By these definitions, "belief" is subject to empirical test, while
"faith" is not. However, as time marches on, some hypotheses that were
formerly untestable become testable, and conclusions about their
validity can move from the "faith" to "belief" category.
Note that having "faith" in a hypothesis neither proves nor disproves
it.
--
Nom dePlume, Ph.D
Why, yes, in fact, I am a rocket scientist.
Guide to Medications for Mental Illness:
http://www.geocities.com/nomdeplume1000
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