I am posting as a person who believes in God and used to have a strong
faith. I had the tv on a little while ago and the channel was on one
of those Sunday morning sermon's. There was a story of a young woman
who was diagnosed with cancer and after going to church, where her
pastor (she hadn't told anyone about the cancer) screamed at her that
she would not die, she believed she was healed. She ended up having
to have surgury and it all went fine and there was no recurrence
afterwards. So yeah, a nice touching story of how someone's faith, or
perceived faith that she honestly believed in, healed her.
I couldn't help but think, well what about all those who exercise just
as much or maybe more faith but don't get their 'miracle'. They
aren't cured, they continue to suffer the rest of whatever life they
have until they die. And why don't you ever showcase *those*
stories? Because they don't entice people to believe and, if it is
thier goal, to get the monetar donations they seek. It made me angry
that so many times at church the stories of 'glory', of healings and
things working out so well, and all according to someone's belief and
faith, are the stories with a happy ending instead of talking about
someone who maintained their faith through all the trials and
challenges they faced. And maybe they weren't healed, maybe things
didn't just fall into place, but despite that they remained true and
faithful to their beliefs. Why isn't that just as moving?
Anyways, I know there are many here who more than disagree with belief
in God, who are soured against religion, and I'm not trying to debate
those points. I'm just angry that sometimes religion glosses over the
'real' stories....I think there are far more of the stories where
people continue to struggle even though they excersize faith than
those who feel their burdens have been lifted because of their faith,
as if their faith is somehow stronger, or better.
~Rose
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: Faith in God |
23 Sep 2007 04:37:02 PM |
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<smudgedmyrose@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 23, 2:28 pm, Janithor <Janit...@comcast.net> wrote:
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% wrote:
"Janithor" <Janit...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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% wrote:
yea , you better get a new support buddy ,
but i don't think Cal is going to be it ,
although if you cheer him on enough ,
you might be able to set up yet another ,
fight between me and anyone you can find ,
dumb enough to fall for your bull
I don't need to set you up, bud, you do a pretty good job on your
own,
in case you didn't notice.
that doesn't seem to ever stop you from trying
OK, just for clarity, I'll be real for a second: I think your
name-calling against Rhiannon is cowardly pathetic *****. It
stinks.
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*applause*
~Rose
thank you very much for the clap
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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| Title: Re: Faith in God |
23 Sep 2007 10:17:16 PM |
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<smudgedmyrose@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 23, 2:28 pm, Janithor <Janit...@comcast.net> wrote:
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% wrote:
"Janithor" <Janit...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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% wrote:
yea , you better get a new support buddy ,
but i don't think Cal is going to be it ,
although if you cheer him on enough ,
you might be able to set up yet another ,
fight between me and anyone you can find ,
dumb enough to fall for your bull
I don't need to set you up, bud, you do a pretty good job on your own,
in case you didn't notice.
that doesn't seem to ever stop you from trying
OK, just for clarity, I'll be real for a second: I think your
name-calling against Rhiannon is cowardly pathetic *****. It stinks.
You may now go back to your regularly scheduled programming.- Hide quoted
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*applause*
~Rose
Exactly! ;-)
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Rhi
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| User: "Bacon" |
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| Title: Re: Faith in God |
23 Sep 2007 03:49:24 PM |
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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 17:23:05 -0000, wrote:
I'm just angry that sometimes religion glosses over the
'real' stories....I think there are far more of the stories where
people continue to struggle even though they excersize faith than
those who feel their burdens have been lifted because of their faith,
as if their faith is somehow stronger, or better.
~Rose
Our bundled plan offers the long term benefit of eternal peace. You
are also eligible for "in-life" <fine print - miracles are not
guranteed by our savior>.
I think all the talk about miracles is us seeing the underbelly of the
enterprise of religion...money grabbers and frauds out preaching the
visions and offering up cures like they are just there for the taking.
I'm sure its a constant pain to the established and respected religous
organiztions, its just sensationalism.
Religion does focus on the negatives, the realities and the evil we
are all part of...that these nightmares are temporary and just have
faith and believe...
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| User: "neoholistic" |
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| Title: Re: Faith in God |
23 Sep 2007 06:44:43 PM |
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I so totally agree with him (R. Dawkins) - I just
wish I could express myself like he does:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZE8MOKle70
Priceless (IMHO).
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