I am posting as a person who believes in God and used to have a strong
faith. I had the tv on a little while ago and the channel was on one
of those Sunday morning sermon's. There was a story of a young woman
who was diagnosed with cancer and after going to church, where her
pastor (she hadn't told anyone about the cancer) screamed at her that
she would not die, she believed she was healed. She ended up having
to have surgury and it all went fine and there was no recurrence
afterwards. So yeah, a nice touching story of how someone's faith, or
perceived faith that she honestly believed in, healed her.
I couldn't help but think, well what about all those who exercise just
as much or maybe more faith but don't get their 'miracle'. They
aren't cured, they continue to suffer the rest of whatever life they
have until they die. And why don't you ever showcase *those*
stories? Because they don't entice people to believe and, if it is
thier goal, to get the monetar donations they seek. It made me angry
that so many times at church the stories of 'glory', of healings and
things working out so well, and all according to someone's belief and
faith, are the stories with a happy ending instead of talking about
someone who maintained their faith through all the trials and
challenges they faced. And maybe they weren't healed, maybe things
didn't just fall into place, but despite that they remained true and
faithful to their beliefs. Why isn't that just as moving?
Anyways, I know there are many here who more than disagree with belief
in God, who are soured against religion, and I'm not trying to debate
those points. I'm just angry that sometimes religion glosses over the
'real' stories....I think there are far more of the stories where
people continue to struggle even though they excersize faith than
those who feel their burdens have been lifted because of their faith,
as if their faith is somehow stronger, or better.
~Rose
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23 Sep 2007 12:26:41 PM |
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<smudgedrose@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I am posting as a person who believes in God and used to have a strong
faith. I had the tv on a little while ago and the channel was on one
of those Sunday morning sermon's. There was a story of a young woman
who was diagnosed with cancer and after going to church, where her
pastor (she hadn't told anyone about the cancer) screamed at her that
she would not die, she believed she was healed. She ended up having
to have surgury and it all went fine and there was no recurrence
afterwards. So yeah, a nice touching story of how someone's faith, or
perceived faith that she honestly believed in, healed her.
I couldn't help but think, well what about all those who exercise just
as much or maybe more faith but don't get their 'miracle'. They
aren't cured, they continue to suffer the rest of whatever life they
have until they die. And why don't you ever showcase *those*
stories? Because they don't entice people to believe and, if it is
thier goal, to get the monetar donations they seek. It made me angry
that so many times at church the stories of 'glory', of healings and
things working out so well, and all according to someone's belief and
faith, are the stories with a happy ending instead of talking about
someone who maintained their faith through all the trials and
challenges they faced. And maybe they weren't healed, maybe things
didn't just fall into place, but despite that they remained true and
faithful to their beliefs. Why isn't that just as moving?
Anyways, I know there are many here who more than disagree with belief
in God, who are soured against religion, and I'm not trying to debate
those points. I'm just angry that sometimes religion glosses over the
'real' stories....I think there are far more of the stories where
people continue to struggle even though they excersize faith than
those who feel their burdens have been lifted because of their faith,
as if their faith is somehow stronger, or better.
~Rose
its TV
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23 Sep 2007 12:33:10 PM |
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<smudgedrose@gmail.com> wrote in message
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<snipped story>
Anyways, I know there are many here who more than disagree with belief
in God, who are soured against religion, and I'm not trying to debate
those points. I'm just angry that sometimes religion glosses over the
'real' stories....I think there are far more of the stories where
people continue to struggle even though they excersize faith than
those who feel their burdens have been lifted because of their faith,
as if their faith is somehow stronger, or better.
~Rose
For me it goes like this...God always answers our prayers, but sometimes the
answer is no. I don't question why. I just trust that he knows better than
I do.
--
Rhi
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| User: "%" |
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23 Sep 2007 12:45:30 PM |
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"Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:fd680k$r65$1@news.datemas.de...
<smudgedrose@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1190568185.800909.288360@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
<snipped story>
Anyways, I know there are many here who more than disagree with
belief
in God, who are soured against religion, and I'm not trying to
debate
those points. I'm just angry that sometimes religion glosses over
the
'real' stories....I think there are far more of the stories where
people continue to struggle even though they excersize faith than
those who feel their burdens have been lifted because of their
faith,
as if their faith is somehow stronger, or better.
~Rose
For me it goes like this...God always answers our prayers, but
sometimes the
answer is no. I don't question why. I just trust that he knows
better than
I do.
--
Rhi
and he told you to move in with Cal too i bet
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23 Sep 2007 01:08:15 PM |
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On Sep 23, 10:33 am, "Rhiannon" <rhia...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
<smudgedr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1190568185.800909.288360@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
<snipped story>
Anyways, I know there are many here who more than disagree with belief
in God, who are soured against religion, and I'm not trying to debate
those points. I'm just angry that sometimes religion glosses over the
'real' stories....I think there are far more of the stories where
people continue to struggle even though they excersize faith than
those who feel their burdens have been lifted because of their faith,
as if their faith is somehow stronger, or better.
~Rose
For me it goes like this...God always answers our prayers, but sometimes the
answer is no. I don't question why. I just trust that he knows better than
I do.
--
Rhi
Oh, I totally agree with you. My point is those stories are rarely
talked about, only the stories of being healed, of how their problems
'went away' because of their faith, how everything worked out dandy.
Those stories are just as important, imho, to share because when
someone is *not* feeling a lightening of their load, to feel at least
*some* sort of strength and/or hope to keep them going even thouth
their challenges have not eased up and in some cases get worse. When
someone continues to struggle and hurt despite trying to follow their
beliefs, then they might end up feeling that they either aren't worthy
of the same blessings, or that they aren't being heard by God, or that
they are meant to suffer for whatever reasons, etc. The list goes
on.
The stories of those who remain faithful despite their mounting
challenges, where there seems to be no relief in sight, are just as
important as those who are faithful and then have their burdens
lifted, which would strenghten their faith(I think in many cases).
Sometimes those who struggle through life feel their faith chipped
away at instead of strengthened when they see others around them who
seem to have the blessings of healing and 'solutions' to whatever main
struggle they are dealing with. I don't know if I'm getting my point
across, it's just frustrating to me how the ones who exercise their
faith and have a literal releif from their issues are the examples the
world goes by instead of the ones who exercise their faith against
continuing adversity through the rest of their life.
~Rose
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| User: "Jane" |
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24 Sep 2007 02:02:43 PM |
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On Sep 23, 1:33 pm, "Rhiannon" <rhia...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
<smudgedr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1190568185.800909.288360@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
<snipped story>
Anyways, I know there are many here who more than disagree with belief
in God, who are soured against religion, and I'm not trying to debate
those points. I'm just angry that sometimes religion glosses over the
'real' stories....I think there are far more of the stories where
people continue to struggle even though they excersize faith than
those who feel their burdens have been lifted because of their faith,
as if their faith is somehow stronger, or better.
~Rose
For me it goes like this...God always answers our prayers, but sometimes the
answer is no. I don't question why. I just trust that he knows better than
I do.
--
Rhi
I wanna know the "why" part, I can't help but question.
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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24 Sep 2007 04:45:30 PM |
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"Jane" <freakmagnet66@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1190660563.695235.38780@n39g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 23, 1:33 pm, "Rhiannon" <rhia...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
<smudgedr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1190568185.800909.288360@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
<snipped story>
Anyways, I know there are many here who more than disagree with belief
in God, who are soured against religion, and I'm not trying to debate
those points. I'm just angry that sometimes religion glosses over the
'real' stories....I think there are far more of the stories where
people continue to struggle even though they excersize faith than
those who feel their burdens have been lifted because of their faith,
as if their faith is somehow stronger, or better.
~Rose
For me it goes like this...God always answers our prayers, but sometimes
the
answer is no. I don't question why. I just trust that he knows better
than
I do.
--
Rhi
I wanna know the "why" part, I can't help but question.
I used to. Life got simpler when I stopped. OTOH I question "the church"
like there's no tomorrow, but that's a whole other subject. ;-)
--
Rhi
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| User: "Noon Cat Nick" |
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24 Sep 2007 04:41:36 PM |
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Jane wrote:
On Sep 23, 1:33 pm, "Rhiannon" <rhia...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
For me it goes like this...God always answers our prayers, but sometimes the
answer is no. I don't question why. I just trust that he knows better than
I do.
--
Rhi
I wanna know the "why" part, I can't help but question.
From _The Onion_ (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28812):
GOD ANSWERS PRAYERS OF PARALYZED LITTLE BOY: "NO," SAYS GOD
SAN FRANCISCO, CA--For as long as he can remember, 7-year-old Timmy Yu
has had one precious dream: From the bottom of his heart, he has hoped
against hope that God would someday hear his prayer to walk again.
Though many thought Timmy's heavenly plea would never be answered, his
dream finally came true Monday, when the Lord personally responded to
the wheelchair-bound boy's prayer with a resounding no.
"I knew that if I just prayed hard enough, God would hear me," said the
joyful Timmy, surrounded by stuffed animals sent by well-wishing
Christians from around the globe, as he sat in the wheelchair to which
he will be confined for the rest of his life. "And now my prayer has
been answered. I haven't been this happy since before the accident, when
I could walk and play with the other children like a normal boy."
God's response came at approximately 10 a.m. Monday, following a
particularly fervent Sunday prayer session by little Timmy. Witnesses
said God issued His miraculous answer in the form of a towering column
of clouds, from which poured forth great beams of Divine light and the
music of the Heavenly Hosts. The miraculous event took place in the
Children's Special Care Ward of St. Luke's Hospital, where Timmy goes
three times a week for an excruciating two-hour procedure to drain
excess fluid from his damaged spinal column.
Said Angela Schlosser, a day nurse who witnessed the Divine
Manifestation: "An incredible, booming voice said to Timmy, 'I am the
Lord thy God, who created the rivers and the mountains, the heavens and
the earth, the sun and the moon and the stars. Before Me sits My beloved
child, whose faith is that of the mustard seed from which grows mighty
and powerful things. My child, Timmy Yu, I say unto you thus: I have
heard your prayers, and now I shall answer them. No, you cannot get out
of your wheelchair. Not ever."
Paralyzed in a 1996 auto accident that also claimed the lives of both
his parents, Timmy has served as a shining example to his fellow
churchgoers at Lord In Heaven On High Church, inspiring others with his
simple, heartfelt devotion. Now that Timmy has received an answer,
Christians the world over are celebrating his story as a stirring
testament to the power of faith.
"The Lord has answered a little boy's plea to know if he would ever walk
again, and that answer was no," Rev. H. Newman Gunther of the San
Francisco School Of Divinity said. "For years, this boy had been plagued
by the question of whether or not he would ever walk, and now Our Lord,
in his wisdom and mercy, has forever laid to rest any lingering doubt.
Young Timmy can rest assured in the immutable truth that the Lord has
bestowed upon him. Now and for all time, he finally knows that he will
never escape the cruel prison of his chair of iron, for God hath willed
it so. Praise be to God!"
Asked for comment, God said: "This kind-hearted child's simple prayer
hath moved Me. Never before have I seen such faith. His trusting soul,
so full of innocent devotion to Me, hath offered seventy times seven
prayers asking, 'God? Can I please walk again?' It was indeed right and
fitting that I, in My infinite wisdom, should share with him the One
True Answer to this long-repeated question he put before Me."
"My will be done," God added.
Witnesses to the miracle said Timmy begged God for several minutes to
change His mind and heal his shattered vertebrae, but the Lord stood firm.
"God strongly suggested that Timmy consider praying to one of the other
intercessionary agents of Divine power, like Jesus, Mary or maybe even a
top saint," Timmy's personal physician, Dr. William Luttrell, said. "The
Lord stressed to Timmy that it was a long shot, but He said he might
have better luck with one of them."
Despite all the attention he has received, Timmy remains humble in the
face of his newfound notoriety as the only human ever to have a prayer
directly answered by God Himself.
"I know that God loves me, because it says so in the Bible," Timmy said.
"So right now, I am just glad that God took the time to answer my
prayer. If only I could walk, this would be the greatest day of my life."
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23 Sep 2007 02:53:48 PM |
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<smudgedrose@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1190568185.800909.288360@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
I am posting as a person who believes in God and used to have a strong
faith. I had the tv on a little while ago and the channel was on one
of those Sunday morning sermon's. There was a story of a young woman
who was diagnosed with cancer and after going to church, where her
pastor (she hadn't told anyone about the cancer) screamed at her that
she would not die, she believed she was healed. She ended up having
to have surgury and it all went fine and there was no recurrence
afterwards. So yeah, a nice touching story of how someone's faith, or
perceived faith that she honestly believed in, healed her.
I couldn't help but think, well what about all those who exercise just
as much or maybe more faith but don't get their 'miracle'. They
aren't cured, they continue to suffer the rest of whatever life they
have until they die. And why don't you ever showcase *those*
stories? Because they don't entice people to believe and, if it is
thier goal, to get the monetar donations they seek. It made me angry
that so many times at church the stories of 'glory', of healings and
things working out so well, and all according to someone's belief and
faith, are the stories with a happy ending instead of talking about
someone who maintained their faith through all the trials and
challenges they faced. And maybe they weren't healed, maybe things
didn't just fall into place, but despite that they remained true and
faithful to their beliefs. Why isn't that just as moving?
Anyways, I know there are many here who more than disagree with belief
in God, who are soured against religion, and I'm not trying to debate
those points. I'm just angry that sometimes religion glosses over the
'real' stories....I think there are far more of the stories where
people continue to struggle even though they excersize faith than
those who feel their burdens have been lifted because of their faith,
as if their faith is somehow stronger, or better.
because tv evangelists rely on "sensationalism" just like oprah. springer
and maury. crap like that "sells." yeah, it's disgusting, but that's what
gets viewership. that's why "regular" people don't go to church on tv.
it's not any more realistic than the crap you see on springer.
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| User: "BoredToTears" |
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23 Sep 2007 02:23:12 PM |
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On 23 Sep, 18:23, wrote:
I am posting as a person who believes in God and used to have a strong
faith. I had the tv on a little while ago and the channel was on one
of those Sunday morning sermon's. There was a story of a young woman
who was diagnosed with cancer and after going to church, where her
pastor (she hadn't told anyone about the cancer) screamed at her that
she would not die, she believed she was healed. She ended up having
to have surgury and it all went fine and there was no recurrence
afterwards. So yeah, a nice touching story of how someone's faith, or
perceived faith that she honestly believed in, healed her.
So the surgery had nothing to do with healing her? If it was her faith
that did it why did she need surgery and if not why is the ch**ch
taking credit for something they didn't do?
I couldn't help but think, well what about all those who exercise just
as much or maybe more faith but don't get their 'miracle'. They
aren't cured, they continue to suffer the rest of whatever life they
have until they die. And why don't you ever showcase *those*
stories? Because they don't entice people to believe and, if it is
thier goal, to get the monetar donations they seek. It made me angry
that so many times at church the stories of 'glory', of healings and
things working out so well, and all according to someone's belief and
faith, are the stories with a happy ending instead of talking about
someone who maintained their faith through all the trials and
challenges they faced. And maybe they weren't healed, maybe things
didn't just fall into place, but despite that they remained true and
faithful to their beliefs. Why isn't that just as moving?
Anyways, I know there are many here who more than disagree with belief
in God, who are soured against religion, and I'm not trying to debate
those points. I'm just angry that sometimes religion glosses over the
'real' stories....I think there are far more of the stories where
people continue to struggle even though they excersize faith than
those who feel their burdens have been lifted because of their faith,
as if their faith is somehow stronger, or better.
~Rose
The simple answer is it's a crock, it's lie upon lie upon lie. They
*KNOW* they are lying yet continue to do so, all for money and power.
All they need do is show one tiny little bit of evidence for g*d and
all criticism would stop. But they don't because they can't because
g*d does not exist and no amount of mentally disturbed, evangelical,
money-hungry *****-wits will change that sad, lonely fact. You're born,
you live whatever wretched existence you can, you die and you rot.
That is all there is.
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| User: "cal" |
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23 Sep 2007 02:09:50 PM |
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On 9/23/07 1:23 PM, in article
1190568185.800909.288360@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,
"smudgedrose@gmail.com" <smudgedrose@gmail.com> wrote:
I am posting as a person who believes in God and used to have a strong
faith. I had the tv on a little while ago and the channel was on one
of those Sunday morning sermon's. There was a story of a young woman
who was diagnosed with cancer and after going to church, where her
pastor (she hadn't told anyone about the cancer) screamed at her that
she would not die, she believed she was healed. She ended up having
to have surgury and it all went fine and there was no recurrence
afterwards. So yeah, a nice touching story of how someone's faith, or
perceived faith that she honestly believed in, healed her.
I couldn't help but think, well what about all those who exercise just
as much or maybe more faith but don't get their 'miracle'. They
aren't cured, they continue to suffer the rest of whatever life they
have until they die. And why don't you ever showcase *those*
stories? Because they don't entice people to believe and, if it is
thier goal, to get the monetar donations they seek. It made me angry
that so many times at church the stories of 'glory', of healings and
things working out so well, and all according to someone's belief and
faith, are the stories with a happy ending instead of talking about
someone who maintained their faith through all the trials and
challenges they faced. And maybe they weren't healed, maybe things
didn't just fall into place, but despite that they remained true and
faithful to their beliefs. Why isn't that just as moving?
Anyways, I know there are many here who more than disagree with belief
in God, who are soured against religion, and I'm not trying to debate
those points. I'm just angry that sometimes religion glosses over the
'real' stories....I think there are far more of the stories where
people continue to struggle even though they excersize faith than
those who feel their burdens have been lifted because of their faith,
as if their faith is somehow stronger, or better.
the evangelical denominations are always looking for converts and donations,
and do the best sales job they can. that's their whole reason for going on
tv. for a lot of people, nothing persuades like the presentation of a bona
fide miracle, the quick and uncomplicated fix.
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| User: "%" |
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23 Sep 2007 02:11:48 PM |
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"cal" <cal1360@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:C31C323E.1F7ED%cal1360@gmail.com...
On 9/23/07 1:23 PM, in article
1190568185.800909.288360@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,
"smudgedrose@gmail.com" <smudgedrose@gmail.com> wrote:
I am posting as a person who believes in God and used to have a
strong
faith. I had the tv on a little while ago and the channel was on
one
of those Sunday morning sermon's. There was a story of a young
woman
who was diagnosed with cancer and after going to church, where her
pastor (she hadn't told anyone about the cancer) screamed at her
that
she would not die, she believed she was healed. She ended up having
to have surgury and it all went fine and there was no recurrence
afterwards. So yeah, a nice touching story of how someone's faith,
or
perceived faith that she honestly believed in, healed her.
I couldn't help but think, well what about all those who exercise
just
as much or maybe more faith but don't get their 'miracle'. They
aren't cured, they continue to suffer the rest of whatever life they
have until they die. And why don't you ever showcase *those*
stories? Because they don't entice people to believe and, if it is
thier goal, to get the monetar donations they seek. It made me
angry
that so many times at church the stories of 'glory', of healings and
things working out so well, and all according to someone's belief
and
faith, are the stories with a happy ending instead of talking about
someone who maintained their faith through all the trials and
challenges they faced. And maybe they weren't healed, maybe things
didn't just fall into place, but despite that they remained true and
faithful to their beliefs. Why isn't that just as moving?
Anyways, I know there are many here who more than disagree with
belief
in God, who are soured against religion, and I'm not trying to
debate
those points. I'm just angry that sometimes religion glosses over
the
'real' stories....I think there are far more of the stories where
people continue to struggle even though they excersize faith than
those who feel their burdens have been lifted because of their
faith,
as if their faith is somehow stronger, or better.
the evangelical denominations are always looking for converts and
donations,
and do the best sales job they can. that's their whole reason for
going on
tv. for a lot of people, nothing persuades like the presentation of a
bona
fide miracle, the quick and uncomplicated fix.
no it isn't
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| User: "cal" |
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| Title: Re: Faith in God |
23 Sep 2007 02:15:45 PM |
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On 9/23/07 3:11 PM, in article
ScGdnaqjX_EqJ2vbnZ2dnUVZ_qqgnZ2d@giganews.com, "%" <persent@gmail.com>
wrote:
"cal" <cal1360@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:C31C323E.1F7ED%cal1360@gmail.com...
On 9/23/07 1:23 PM, in article
1190568185.800909.288360@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,
"smudgedrose@gmail.com" <smudgedrose@gmail.com> wrote:
I am posting as a person who believes in God and used to have a
strong
faith. I had the tv on a little while ago and the channel was on
one
of those Sunday morning sermon's. There was a story of a young
woman
who was diagnosed with cancer and after going to church, where her
pastor (she hadn't told anyone about the cancer) screamed at her
that
she would not die, she believed she was healed. She ended up having
to have surgury and it all went fine and there was no recurrence
afterwards. So yeah, a nice touching story of how someone's faith,
or
perceived faith that she honestly believed in, healed her.
I couldn't help but think, well what about all those who exercise
just
as much or maybe more faith but don't get their 'miracle'. They
aren't cured, they continue to suffer the rest of whatever life they
have until they die. And why don't you ever showcase *those*
stories? Because they don't entice people to believe and, if it is
thier goal, to get the monetar donations they seek. It made me
angry
that so many times at church the stories of 'glory', of healings and
things working out so well, and all according to someone's belief
and
faith, are the stories with a happy ending instead of talking about
someone who maintained their faith through all the trials and
challenges they faced. And maybe they weren't healed, maybe things
didn't just fall into place, but despite that they remained true and
faithful to their beliefs. Why isn't that just as moving?
Anyways, I know there are many here who more than disagree with
belief
in God, who are soured against religion, and I'm not trying to
debate
those points. I'm just angry that sometimes religion glosses over
the
'real' stories....I think there are far more of the stories where
people continue to struggle even though they excersize faith than
those who feel their burdens have been lifted because of their
faith,
as if their faith is somehow stronger, or better.
the evangelical denominations are always looking for converts and
donations,
and do the best sales job they can. that's their whole reason for
going on
tv. for a lot of people, nothing persuades like the presentation of a
bona
fide miracle, the quick and uncomplicated fix.
no it isn't
is too
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| User: "%" |
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23 Sep 2007 02:23:14 PM |
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"cal" <cal1360@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:C31C33A1.1F7F5%cal1360@gmail.com...
On 9/23/07 3:11 PM, in article
ScGdnaqjX_EqJ2vbnZ2dnUVZ_qqgnZ2d@giganews.com, "%" <persent@gmail.com>
wrote:
"cal" <cal1360@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:C31C323E.1F7ED%cal1360@gmail.com...
On 9/23/07 1:23 PM, in article
1190568185.800909.288360@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,
"smudgedrose@gmail.com" <smudgedrose@gmail.com> wrote:
I am posting as a person who believes in God and used to have a
strong
faith. I had the tv on a little while ago and the channel was on
one
of those Sunday morning sermon's. There was a story of a young
woman
who was diagnosed with cancer and after going to church, where her
pastor (she hadn't told anyone about the cancer) screamed at her
that
she would not die, she believed she was healed. She ended up
having
to have surgury and it all went fine and there was no recurrence
afterwards. So yeah, a nice touching story of how someone's
faith,
or
perceived faith that she honestly believed in, healed her.
I couldn't help but think, well what about all those who exercise
just
as much or maybe more faith but don't get their 'miracle'. They
aren't cured, they continue to suffer the rest of whatever life
they
have until they die. And why don't you ever showcase *those*
stories? Because they don't entice people to believe and, if it
is
thier goal, to get the monetar donations they seek. It made me
angry
that so many times at church the stories of 'glory', of healings
and
things working out so well, and all according to someone's belief
and
faith, are the stories with a happy ending instead of talking
about
someone who maintained their faith through all the trials and
challenges they faced. And maybe they weren't healed, maybe
things
didn't just fall into place, but despite that they remained true
and
faithful to their beliefs. Why isn't that just as moving?
Anyways, I know there are many here who more than disagree with
belief
in God, who are soured against religion, and I'm not trying to
debate
those points. I'm just angry that sometimes religion glosses over
the
'real' stories....I think there are far more of the stories where
people continue to struggle even though they excersize faith than
those who feel their burdens have been lifted because of their
faith,
as if their faith is somehow stronger, or better.
the evangelical denominations are always looking for converts and
donations,
and do the best sales job they can. that's their whole reason for
going on
tv. for a lot of people, nothing persuades like the presentation of
a
bona
fide miracle, the quick and uncomplicated fix.
no it isn't
is too
prove it
.
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| User: "cal" |
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| Title: Re: Faith in God |
23 Sep 2007 02:37:34 PM |
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On 9/23/07 3:23 PM, in article
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wrote:
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On 9/23/07 3:11 PM, in article
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wrote:
"cal" <cal1360@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:C31C323E.1F7ED%cal1360@gmail.com...
On 9/23/07 1:23 PM, in article
1190568185.800909.288360@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,
"smudgedrose@gmail.com" <smudgedrose@gmail.com> wrote:
I am posting as a person who believes in God and used to have a
strong
faith. I had the tv on a little while ago and the channel was on
one
of those Sunday morning sermon's. There was a story of a young
woman
who was diagnosed with cancer and after going to church, where her
pastor (she hadn't told anyone about the cancer) screamed at her
that
she would not die, she believed she was healed. She ended up
having
to have surgury and it all went fine and there was no recurrence
afterwards. So yeah, a nice touching story of how someone's
faith,
or
perceived faith that she honestly believed in, healed her.
I couldn't help but think, well what about all those who exercise
just
as much or maybe more faith but don't get their 'miracle'. They
aren't cured, they continue to suffer the rest of whatever life
they
have until they die. And why don't you ever showcase *those*
stories? Because they don't entice people to believe and, if it
is
thier goal, to get the monetar donations they seek. It made me
angry
that so many times at church the stories of 'glory', of healings
and
things working out so well, and all according to someone's belief
and
faith, are the stories with a happy ending instead of talking
about
someone who maintained their faith through all the trials and
challenges they faced. And maybe they weren't healed, maybe
things
didn't just fall into place, but despite that they remained true
and
faithful to their beliefs. Why isn't that just as moving?
Anyways, I know there are many here who more than disagree with
belief
in God, who are soured against religion, and I'm not trying to
debate
those points. I'm just angry that sometimes religion glosses over
the
'real' stories....I think there are far more of the stories where
people continue to struggle even though they excersize faith than
those who feel their burdens have been lifted because of their
faith,
as if their faith is somehow stronger, or better.
the evangelical denominations are always looking for converts and
donations,
and do the best sales job they can. that's their whole reason for
going on
tv. for a lot of people, nothing persuades like the presentation of
a
bona
fide miracle, the quick and uncomplicated fix.
no it isn't
is too
prove it
ok
.
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| User: "%" |
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23 Sep 2007 02:50:37 PM |
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"cal" <cal1360@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On 9/23/07 3:23 PM, in article
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wrote:
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On 9/23/07 3:11 PM, in article
ScGdnaqjX_EqJ2vbnZ2dnUVZ_qqgnZ2d@giganews.com, "%"
<persent@gmail.com>
wrote:
"cal" <cal1360@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:C31C323E.1F7ED%cal1360@gmail.com...
On 9/23/07 1:23 PM, in article
1190568185.800909.288360@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,
"smudgedrose@gmail.com" <smudgedrose@gmail.com> wrote:
I am posting as a person who believes in God and used to have a
strong
faith. I had the tv on a little while ago and the channel was
on
one
of those Sunday morning sermon's. There was a story of a young
woman
who was diagnosed with cancer and after going to church, where
her
pastor (she hadn't told anyone about the cancer) screamed at her
that
she would not die, she believed she was healed. She ended up
having
to have surgury and it all went fine and there was no recurrence
afterwards. So yeah, a nice touching story of how someone's
faith,
or
perceived faith that she honestly believed in, healed her.
I couldn't help but think, well what about all those who
exercise
just
as much or maybe more faith but don't get their 'miracle'. They
aren't cured, they continue to suffer the rest of whatever life
they
have until they die. And why don't you ever showcase *those*
stories? Because they don't entice people to believe and, if it
is
thier goal, to get the monetar donations they seek. It made me
angry
that so many times at church the stories of 'glory', of healings
and
things working out so well, and all according to someone's
belief
and
faith, are the stories with a happy ending instead of talking
about
someone who maintained their faith through all the trials and
challenges they faced. And maybe they weren't healed, maybe
things
didn't just fall into place, but despite that they remained true
and
faithful to their beliefs. Why isn't that just as moving?
Anyways, I know there are many here who more than disagree with
belief
in God, who are soured against religion, and I'm not trying to
debate
those points. I'm just angry that sometimes religion glosses
over
the
'real' stories....I think there are far more of the stories
where
people continue to struggle even though they excersize faith
than
those who feel their burdens have been lifted because of their
faith,
as if their faith is somehow stronger, or better.
the evangelical denominations are always looking for converts and
donations,
and do the best sales job they can. that's their whole reason for
going on
tv. for a lot of people, nothing persuades like the presentation
of
a
bona
fide miracle, the quick and uncomplicated fix.
no it isn't
is too
prove it
ok
you didn't , i win
.
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| User: "cal" |
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| Title: Re: Faith in God |
24 Sep 2007 08:17:14 AM |
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On 9/23/07 3:50 PM, in article
rKednWMP4clPXmvbnZ2dnUVZ_qmlnZ2d@giganews.com, "%" <persent@gmail.com>
wrote:
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On 9/23/07 3:23 PM, in article
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wrote:
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On 9/23/07 3:11 PM, in article
ScGdnaqjX_EqJ2vbnZ2dnUVZ_qqgnZ2d@giganews.com, "%"
<persent@gmail.com>
wrote:
"cal" <cal1360@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:C31C323E.1F7ED%cal1360@gmail.com...
On 9/23/07 1:23 PM, in article
1190568185.800909.288360@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,
"smudgedrose@gmail.com" <smudgedrose@gmail.com> wrote:
I am posting as a person who believes in God and used to have a
strong
faith. I had the tv on a little while ago and the channel was
on
one
of those Sunday morning sermon's. There was a story of a young
woman
who was diagnosed with cancer and after going to church, where
her
pastor (she hadn't told anyone about the cancer) screamed at her
that
she would not die, she believed she was healed. She ended up
having
to have surgury and it all went fine and there was no recurrence
afterwards. So yeah, a nice touching story of how someone's
faith,
or
perceived faith that she honestly believed in, healed her.
I couldn't help but think, well what about all those who
exercise
just
as much or maybe more faith but don't get their 'miracle'. They
aren't cured, they continue to suffer the rest of whatever life
they
have until they die. And why don't you ever showcase *those*
stories? Because they don't entice people to believe and, if it
is
thier goal, to get the monetar donations they seek. It made me
angry
that so many times at church the stories of 'glory', of healings
and
things working out so well, and all according to someone's
belief
and
faith, are the stories with a happy ending instead of talking
about
someone who maintained their faith through all the trials and
challenges they faced. And maybe they weren't healed, maybe
things
didn't just fall into place, but despite that they remained true
and
faithful to their beliefs. Why isn't that just as moving?
Anyways, I know there are many here who more than disagree with
belief
in God, who are soured against religion, and I'm not trying to
debate
those points. I'm just angry that sometimes religion glosses
over
the
'real' stories....I think there are far more of the stories
where
people continue to struggle even though they excersize faith
than
those who feel their burdens have been lifted because of their
faith,
as if their faith is somehow stronger, or better.
the evangelical denominations are always looking for converts and
donations,
and do the best sales job they can. that's their whole reason for
going on
tv. for a lot of people, nothing persuades like the presentation
of
a
bona
fide miracle, the quick and uncomplicated fix.
no it isn't
is too
prove it
ok
you didn't , i win
yes i did
.
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| User: "Janithor" |
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| Title: Re: Faith in God |
23 Sep 2007 04:12:00 PM |
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On 9/23/07 3:23 PM, in article
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wrote:
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On 9/23/07 3:11 PM, in article
ScGdnaqjX_EqJ2vbnZ2dnUVZ_qqgnZ2d@giganews.com, "%"
<persent@gmail.com>
wrote:
"cal" <cal1360@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:C31C323E.1F7ED%cal1360@gmail.com...
On 9/23/07 1:23 PM, in article
1190568185.800909.288360@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,
"smudgedrose@gmail.com" <smudgedrose@gmail.com> wrote:
I am posting as a person who believes in God and used to have a
strong
faith. I had the tv on a little while ago and the channel was
on
one
of those Sunday morning sermon's. There was a story of a young
woman
who was diagnosed with cancer and after going to church, where
her
pastor (she hadn't told anyone about the cancer) screamed at her
that
she would not die, she believed she was healed. She ended up
having
to have surgury and it all went fine and there was no recurrence
afterwards. So yeah, a nice touching story of how someone's
faith,
or
perceived faith that she honestly believed in, healed her.
I couldn't help but think, well what about all those who
exercise
just
as much or maybe more faith but don't get their 'miracle'. They
aren't cured, they continue to suffer the rest of whatever life
they
have until they die. And why don't you ever showcase *those*
stories? Because they don't entice people to believe and, if it
is
thier goal, to get the monetar donations they seek. It made me
angry
that so many times at church the stories of 'glory', of healings
and
things working out so well, and all according to someone's
belief
and
faith, are the stories with a happy ending instead of talking
about
someone who maintained their faith through all the trials and
challenges they faced. And maybe they weren't healed, maybe
things
didn't just fall into place, but despite that they remained true
and
faithful to their beliefs. Why isn't that just as moving?
Anyways, I know there are many here who more than disagree with
belief
in God, who are soured against religion, and I'm not trying to
debate
those points. I'm just angry that sometimes religion glosses
over
the
'real' stories....I think there are far more of the stories
where
people continue to struggle even though they excersize faith
than
those who feel their burdens have been lifted because of their
faith,
as if their faith is somehow stronger, or better.
the evangelical denominations are always looking for converts and
donations,
and do the best sales job they can. that's their whole reason for
going on
tv. for a lot of people, nothing persuades like the presentation
of
a
bona
fide miracle, the quick and uncomplicated fix.
no it isn't
is too
prove it
ok
you didn't , i win
Survey says....
cal = 1
% = 0
.
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: Faith in God |
23 Sep 2007 04:15:22 PM |
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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% wrote:
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On 9/23/07 3:23 PM, in article
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<persent@gmail.com>
wrote:
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On 9/23/07 3:11 PM, in article
ScGdnaqjX_EqJ2vbnZ2dnUVZ_qqgnZ2d@giganews.com, "%"
<persent@gmail.com>
wrote:
"cal" <cal1360@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:C31C323E.1F7ED%cal1360@gmail.com...
On 9/23/07 1:23 PM, in article
1190568185.800909.288360@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,
"smudgedrose@gmail.com" <smudgedrose@gmail.com> wrote:
I am posting as a person who believes in God and used to have a
strong
faith. I had the tv on a little while ago and the channel was
on
one
of those Sunday morning sermon's. There was a story of a young
woman
who was diagnosed with cancer and after going to church, where
her
pastor (she hadn't told anyone about the cancer) screamed at
her
that
she would not die, she believed she was healed. She ended up
having
to have surgury and it all went fine and there was no
recurrence
afterwards. So yeah, a nice touching story of how someone's
faith,
or
perceived faith that she honestly believed in, healed her.
I couldn't help but think, well what about all those who
exercise
just
as much or maybe more faith but don't get their 'miracle'.
They
aren't cured, they continue to suffer the rest of whatever life
they
have until they die. And why don't you ever showcase *those*
stories? Because they don't entice people to believe and, if
it
is
thier goal, to get the monetar donations they seek. It made me
angry
that so many times at church the stories of 'glory', of
healings
and
things working out so well, and all according to someone's
belief
and
faith, are the stories with a happy ending instead of talking
about
someone who maintained their faith through all the trials and
challenges they faced. And maybe they weren't healed, maybe
things
didn't just fall into place, but despite that they remained
true
and
faithful to their beliefs. Why isn't that just as moving?
Anyways, I know there are many here who more than disagree with
belief
in God, who are soured against religion, and I'm not trying to
debate
those points. I'm just angry that sometimes religion glosses
over
the
'real' stories....I think there are far more of the stories
where
people continue to struggle even though they excersize faith
than
those who feel their burdens have been lifted because of their
faith,
as if their faith is somehow stronger, or better.
the evangelical denominations are always looking for converts
and
donations,
and do the best sales job they can. that's their whole reason
for
going on
tv. for a lot of people, nothing persuades like the presentation
of
a
bona
fide miracle, the quick and uncomplicated fix.
no it isn't
is too
prove it
ok
you didn't , i win
Survey says....
cal = 1
% = 0
yea , you better get a new support buddy ,
but i don't think Cal is going to be it ,
although if you cheer him on enough ,
you might be able to set up yet another ,
fight between me and anyone you can find ,
dumb enough to fall for your bull
.
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| User: "Janithor" |
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| Title: Re: Faith in God |
23 Sep 2007 04:21:10 PM |
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% wrote:
yea , you better get a new support buddy ,
but i don't think Cal is going to be it ,
although if you cheer him on enough ,
you might be able to set up yet another ,
fight between me and anyone you can find ,
dumb enough to fall for your bull
I don't need to set you up, bud, you do a pretty good job on your own,
in case you didn't notice.
.
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: Faith in God |
23 Sep 2007 04:23:50 PM |
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:46F6D87D.7020108@comcast.net...
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% wrote:
yea , you better get a new support buddy ,
but i don't think Cal is going to be it ,
although if you cheer him on enough ,
you might be able to set up yet another ,
fight between me and anyone you can find ,
dumb enough to fall for your bull
I don't need to set you up, bud, you do a pretty good job on your own,
in case you didn't notice.
that doesn't seem to ever stop you from trying
.
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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24 Sep 2007 01:20:31 AM |
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In message <Ub2dnXS3wuEtRGvbnZ2dnUVZ_uiknZ2d@giganews.com>, %
<persent@gmail.com> writes
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:46F6D87D.7020108@comcast.net...
% wrote:
yea , you better get a new support buddy ,
but i don't think Cal is going to be it ,
although if you cheer him on enough ,
you might be able to set up yet another ,
fight between me and anyone you can find ,
dumb enough to fall for your bull
I don't need to set you up, bud, you do a pretty good job on your own,
in case you didn't notice.
that doesn't seem to ever stop you from trying
Do you have paranoia on you diagnosis?
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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23 Sep 2007 04:28:21 PM |
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% wrote:
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:46F6D87D.7020108@comcast.net...
x-no-archive: yes
% wrote:
yea , you better get a new support buddy ,
but i don't think Cal is going to be it ,
although if you cheer him on enough ,
you might be able to set up yet another ,
fight between me and anyone you can find ,
dumb enough to fall for your bull
I don't need to set you up, bud, you do a pretty good job on your own,
in case you didn't notice.
that doesn't seem to ever stop you from trying
OK, just for clarity, I'll be real for a second: I think your
name-calling against Rhiannon is cowardly pathetic *****. It stinks.
You may now go back to your regularly scheduled programming.
.
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: Faith in God |
23 Sep 2007 04:36:33 PM |
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:46F6DA75.2040406@comcast.net...
x-no-archive: yes
% wrote:
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:46F6D87D.7020108@comcast.net...
x-no-archive: yes
% wrote:
yea , you better get a new support buddy ,
but i don't think Cal is going to be it ,
although if you cheer him on enough ,
you might be able to set up yet another ,
fight between me and anyone you can find ,
dumb enough to fall for your bull
I don't need to set you up, bud, you do a pretty good job on your
own,
in case you didn't notice.
that doesn't seem to ever stop you from trying
OK, just for clarity, I'll be real for a second: I think your
name-calling against Rhiannon is cowardly pathetic *****. It
stinks.
You may now go back to your regularly scheduled programming.
can we address that after we finish the original topic first ,
just so i don't think you're ducking and dodging the issue ,
or should i point out that i let the members of that camp ,
call me tweety and a few other names before i said anything ,
in way of name calling back and how come you didn't ,
think this of them then
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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| Title: Re: Faith in God |
23 Sep 2007 09:43:01 PM |
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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% wrote:
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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x-no-archive: yes
% wrote:
yea , you better get a new support buddy ,
but i don't think Cal is going to be it ,
although if you cheer him on enough ,
you might be able to set up yet another ,
fight between me and anyone you can find ,
dumb enough to fall for your bull
I don't need to set you up, bud, you do a pretty good job on your own,
in case you didn't notice.
that doesn't seem to ever stop you from trying
OK, just for clarity, I'll be real for a second: I think your name-calling
against Rhiannon is cowardly pathetic *****. It stinks.
Thank you Thor <curtsey> :-)
--
Rhi
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: Faith in God |
23 Sep 2007 10:03:02 PM |
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"Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:fd787n$r7n$1@news.datemas.de...
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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% wrote:
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:46F6D87D.7020108@comcast.net...
x-no-archive: yes
% wrote:
yea , you better get a new support buddy ,
but i don't think Cal is going to be it ,
although if you cheer him on enough ,
you might be able to set up yet another ,
fight between me and anyone you can find ,
dumb enough to fall for your bull
I don't need to set you up, bud, you do a pretty good job on your
own,
in case you didn't notice.
that doesn't seem to ever stop you from trying
OK, just for clarity, I'll be real for a second: I think your
name-calling
against Rhiannon is cowardly pathetic *****. It stinks.
Thank you Thor <curtsey> :-)
--
Rhino
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Faith in God |
23 Sep 2007 10:53:37 PM |
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On Sep 23, 8:03 pm, "%" <pers...@gmail.com> wrote:
"Rhiannon" <rhia...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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yea , you better get a new support buddy ,
but i don't think Cal is going to be it ,
although if you cheer him on enough ,
you might be able to set up yet another ,
fight between me and anyone you can find ,
dumb enough to fall for your bull
I don't need to set you up, bud, you do a pretty good job on your
own,
in case you didn't notice.
that doesn't seem to ever stop you from trying
OK, just for clarity, I'll be real for a second: I think your
name-calling
against Rhiannon is cowardly pathetic *****. It stinks.
Thank you Thor <curtsey> :-)
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Your perception is so distored you wouldn't know that Rhiannon is a
wonderful person unworthy of your twisted put downs. Enjoy your
pathetic name calling, Rhiannon knows who she is and you can't touch
that.
~Rose
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| Title: Re: Faith in God |
23 Sep 2007 10:56:20 PM |
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<smudgedrose@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 23, 8:03 pm, "%" <pers...@gmail.com> wrote:
"Rhiannon" <rhia...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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"Janithor" <Janit...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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yea , you better get a new support buddy ,
but i don't think Cal is going to be it ,
although if you cheer him on enough ,
you might be able to set up yet another ,
fight between me and anyone you can find ,
dumb enough to fall for your bull
I don't need to set you up, bud, you do a pretty good job on
your
own,
in case you didn't notice.
that doesn't seem to ever stop you from trying
OK, just for clarity, I'll be real for a second: I think your
name-calling
against Rhiannon is cowardly pathetic *****. It stinks.
Thank you Thor <curtsey> :-)
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Rhino- Hide quoted text -
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Your perception is so distored you wouldn't know that Rhiannon is a
wonderful person unworthy of your twisted put downs. Enjoy your
pathetic name calling, Rhiannon knows who she is and you can't touch
that.
~Rose Bowl
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23 Sep 2007 10:52:24 PM |
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23 Sep 2007 10:55:14 PM |
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% wrote:
hi
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On Sep 23, 2:28 pm, Janithor <Janit...@comcast.net> wrote:
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"Janithor" <Janit...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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yea , you better get a new support buddy ,
but i don't think Cal is going to be it ,
although if you cheer him on enough ,
you might be able to set up yet another ,
fight between me and anyone you can find ,
dumb enough to fall for your bull
I don't need to set you up, bud, you do a pretty good job on your own,
in case you didn't notice.
that doesn't seem to ever stop you from trying
OK, just for clarity, I'll be real for a second: I think your
name-calling against Rhiannon is cowardly pathetic *****. It stinks.
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*applause*
~Rose
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