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"millipede man" |
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30 Oct 2005 12:12:13 PM |
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Feeling bad |
I slept very poorly last night. It was very late before I went to bed, and
even then I didn't fall asleep right away. During the night, I woke up at
least once. The night was (as usual) a seemingly continuous stream of
anxious dreams. When the anxiety level built up to the level of panic, I
woke up. Then it took a while to fall asleep again.
Today, I feel tired, sad, and lonely. I keep thinking that I will fail to
lose weight, fail to conquer my social phobia, and fail to make friends. I
keep thinking that my life will continue to be this miserable until I die.
Life is like a speeding train, and I'm running behind the train,
desperately trying to catch up.
- millipede man
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: Feeling bad |
30 Oct 2005 12:18:36 PM |
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"millipede man" <huaNOTSORTAngm@earNOTSORTAthlink.net> wrote in message
news:Xns96FF67CF091A5huangmNOTSORTANOTSOR@127.0.0.1...
I slept very poorly last night. It was very late before I went to bed, and
even then I didn't fall asleep right away. During the night, I woke up at
least once. The night was (as usual) a seemingly continuous stream of
anxious dreams. When the anxiety level built up to the level of panic, I
woke up. Then it took a while to fall asleep again.
Today, I feel tired, sad, and lonely. I keep thinking that I will fail to
lose weight, fail to conquer my social phobia, and fail to make friends. I
keep thinking that my life will continue to be this miserable until I die.
Life is like a speeding train, and I'm running behind the train,
desperately trying to catch up.
- millipede man
have six beers and a pizza and you'll feel much better
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| User: "Bruce." |
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| Title: Re: Feeling bad |
30 Oct 2005 04:03:40 PM |
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"millipede man" <huaNOTSORTAngm@earNOTSORTAthlink.net> wrote in message
news:Xns96FF67CF091A5huangmNOTSORTANOTSOR@127.0.0.1...
I slept very poorly last night. It was very late before I went to bed, and
even then I didn't fall asleep right away. During the night, I woke up at
least once.
Insomnia (can't fall asleep or stay asleep) can be a side effect of some
drugs. For me it was Prozac. It really helped with my depression but
screwed up my sleep. Now that I've switched to Welbutrin and Zyprexa, I
sleep better, at least on the average. I still have bad nights, but it
seems to go in cycles that don't last very long.
Today, I feel tired, sad, and lonely. I keep thinking that I will fail to
lose weight,
Do keep in mind that 99% of the people that try to lose weight fail to
either take it off or keep it off. Not succeeding at weight loss just means
you're normal. Losing weight over the long term is one of the hardest
things for any of us to tackle and succeed at. It's important to try, but
also important not to have unrealistic expectations for yourself.
fail to conquer my social phobia, and fail to make friends.
That's where AD drugs helped me. I was extremely socially phobic and often
abused alcohol to take the edge off at parties. I was one non-stop panic
attack. With Prozac and time that all seemed to slowly melt away.
I
keep thinking that my life will continue to be this miserable until I die.
I'm not sure what it is about depression that makes us think we can predict
the future, but I was crippled by the same thoughts. Well, we can't. No
matter what the future we imagine, we'll probably turn out to be wrong at
least in some important ways. The only thing constant in life is change.
Bruce.
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| User: "millipede man" |
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| Title: Re: Feeling bad |
30 Oct 2005 08:16:32 PM |
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"Bruce." <bachastain@XNOSPAMXsbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:0rb9f.4147$Lv.2170@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net:
"millipede man" <huaNOTSORTAngm@earNOTSORTAthlink.net> wrote in
message news:Xns96FF67CF091A5huangmNOTSORTANOTSOR@127.0.0.1...
I slept very poorly last night. It was very late before I went to
bed, and even then I didn't fall asleep right away. During the night,
I woke up at least once.
Insomnia (can't fall asleep or stay asleep) can be a side effect of
some drugs. For me it was Prozac. It really helped with my
depression but screwed up my sleep. Now that I've switched to
Welbutrin and Zyprexa, I sleep better, at least on the average. I
still have bad nights, but it seems to go in cycles that don't last
very long.
In my case, I'm pretty sure it is anxiety that disturbs my sleep.
Today, I feel tired, sad, and lonely. I keep thinking that I will
fail to lose weight,
Do keep in mind that 99% of the people that try to lose weight fail to
either take it off or keep it off. Not succeeding at weight loss just
means you're normal. Losing weight over the long term is one of the
hardest things for any of us to tackle and succeed at. It's important
to try, but also important not to have unrealistic expectations for
yourself.
I guess so, but to me, failing to lose weight is unacceptable.
fail to conquer my social phobia, and fail to make friends.
That's where AD drugs helped me. I was extremely socially phobic and
often abused alcohol to take the edge off at parties. I was one
non-stop panic attack.
I have that problem too.
With Prozac and time that all seemed to slowly
melt away.
Meds help me, but they aren't enough to remove my anti-social habits or
give me the social skills that I never learned. They also haven't
eliminated the anxiety itself.
I
keep thinking that my life will continue to be this miserable until I
die.
I'm not sure what it is about depression that makes us think we can
predict the future, but I was crippled by the same thoughts. Well, we
can't. No matter what the future we imagine, we'll probably turn out
to be wrong at least in some important ways. The only thing constant
in life is change.
Bruce.
In therapy, I've learned to recognize these "cognitive distortions" such
as believing that we can predict the future ("fortune telling").
However, it is very difficult to stop believing these distortions.
Although I've accepted the remote possibility that my life might
improve, I still think that it is more likely to stay the same.
- millipede man
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| User: "Bruce." |
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| Title: Re: Feeling bad |
30 Oct 2005 08:40:12 PM |
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"millipede man" <huaNOTSORTAngm@earNOTSORTAthlink.net> wrote in message
news:Xns96FFB9E8D6782huangmNOTSORTANOTSOR@127.0.0.1...
I guess so, but to me, failing to lose weight is unacceptable.
Me too. So I keep working at it despite setbacks.
Although I've accepted the remote possibility that my life might
improve, I still think that it is more likely to stay the same.
I think the chances are far better than remote, but I also understand that
it's unlikely I'll convince you of that since I can't predict the future
either.
(((((((((millipede man))))))))))))
Bruce.
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| User: "sortalily dontemailme.com" |
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| Title: Re: Feeling bad |
31 Oct 2005 04:53:30 AM |
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have you figured out your nazi views are a cognitive distoration?
"millipede man" <huaNOTSORTAngm@earNOTSORTAthlink.net> wrote in message
news:Xns96FFB9E8D6782huangmNOTSORTANOTSOR@127.0.0.1...
"Bruce." <bachastain@XNOSPAMXsbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:0rb9f.4147$Lv.2170@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net:
"millipede man" <huaNOTSORTAngm@earNOTSORTAthlink.net> wrote in
message news:Xns96FF67CF091A5huangmNOTSORTANOTSOR@127.0.0.1...
I slept very poorly last night. It was very late before I went to
bed, and even then I didn't fall asleep right away. During the night,
I woke up at least once.
Insomnia (can't fall asleep or stay asleep) can be a side effect of
some drugs. For me it was Prozac. It really helped with my
depression but screwed up my sleep. Now that I've switched to
Welbutrin and Zyprexa, I sleep better, at least on the average. I
still have bad nights, but it seems to go in cycles that don't last
very long.
In my case, I'm pretty sure it is anxiety that disturbs my sleep.
Today, I feel tired, sad, and lonely. I keep thinking that I will
fail to lose weight,
Do keep in mind that 99% of the people that try to lose weight fail to
either take it off or keep it off. Not succeeding at weight loss just
means you're normal. Losing weight over the long term is one of the
hardest things for any of us to tackle and succeed at. It's important
to try, but also important not to have unrealistic expectations for
yourself.
I guess so, but to me, failing to lose weight is unacceptable.
fail to conquer my social phobia, and fail to make friends.
That's where AD drugs helped me. I was extremely socially phobic and
often abused alcohol to take the edge off at parties. I was one
non-stop panic attack.
I have that problem too.
With Prozac and time that all seemed to slowly
melt away.
Meds help me, but they aren't enough to remove my anti-social habits or
give me the social skills that I never learned. They also haven't
eliminated the anxiety itself.
I
keep thinking that my life will continue to be this miserable until I
die.
I'm not sure what it is about depression that makes us think we can
predict the future, but I was crippled by the same thoughts. Well, we
can't. No matter what the future we imagine, we'll probably turn out
to be wrong at least in some important ways. The only thing constant
in life is change.
Bruce.
In therapy, I've learned to recognize these "cognitive distortions" such
as believing that we can predict the future ("fortune telling").
However, it is very difficult to stop believing these distortions.
Although I've accepted the remote possibility that my life might
improve, I still think that it is more likely to stay the same.
- millipede man
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| User: "Contrarian" |
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| Title: Re: Feeling bad |
31 Oct 2005 06:29:27 AM |
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Bruce. <bachastain@xnospamxsbcglobal.net> wrote:
"millipede man" <huaNOTSORTAngm@earNOTSORTAthlink.net> wrote in message
news:Xns96FF67CF091A5huangmNOTSORTANOTSOR@127.0.0.1...
Today, I feel tired, sad, and lonely. I keep thinking that I will fail to
lose weight,
Do keep in mind that 99% of the people that try to lose weight fail to
either take it off or keep it off. Not succeeding at weight loss just means
you're normal.
Now that's what I call supportive. I don't think B. meant it
unkindly though.
But some ppl succeed. Like there's lots of things to do
like umm go to a bookstore and look at a new book on it
once a week or month.
fail to conquer my social phobia, and fail to make friends.
There must be Cognitive Therapy that addresses that.
All I can say is "progress not perfection" and second
Nom deP's suggestion to find a group. The absolute
ideal group would meet on a weekend, bc that weekend
gap really does a number on a lot of ppl, myself included.
That's where AD drugs helped me.
Yup. Sometimes they do.
--
but the edge is still Out there. Or maybe it's In... HST (1967)
when i got to the edge , i built a deck % (2005)
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| User: "Gravity" |
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| Title: Re: Feeling bad |
31 Oct 2005 06:39:24 AM |
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weight loss is self-control. just eat less. and learn to run. running
will take tons of weight off, at the expense of shin splints and other
wonderful problems. set a goal of runnning a 5 minute mile, then achieve
it.
Gravity
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| User: "Gravity" |
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| Title: Re: Feeling bad |
31 Oct 2005 06:37:40 AM |
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you can lose weight. my weight fluctuates between 170 and 190. it just
takes some self-control. eat fruit, or anything, other than fatty stuff.
i'm 6'0" 180 pounds and in this crazy USA, i'm considered skinny, due to the
rampant obesity.
Gravity
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: Feeling bad |
31 Oct 2005 06:45:46 AM |
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Gravity wrote:
you can lose weight. my weight fluctuates between 170 and 190. it just
takes some self-control. eat fruit, or anything, other than fatty stuff.
i'm 6'0" 180 pounds and in this crazy USA, i'm considered skinny, due to the
rampant obesity.
Gravity
Eating healthy is expensive, it's screwed up.
Living off kraft sliced cheese, white bread and sugar laden junk food is
cheap.
Fresh food and stuff like whole grains starts to get expensive. It can
be done though but a big part of it is being willing to prepare food
yourself instead of opening something prepacked. I like the new line of
frozen foods that are a meal in a bag, just add some water and throw in
a skillet. They've got a lot of veggies and other stuff in them. Still
rather pricey.
The worst I've seen is the new trend towards junk food but in "healthy
portions" they wrap up crap food into smaller bags and expect the junk
food junky to stop at just one.
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| User: "Gravity" |
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| Title: Re: Feeling bad |
30 Oct 2005 04:07:00 PM |
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i can usually sleep but i get initial insomnia some days (1 to 3 hours).
when switching meds, e.g. going on Lexapro or off Lexapro, get bad insomnia.
these recent med changes are causing me some issues.
Gravity
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| User: "Nom dePlume nomdeplume1000-at-yahoo.com" |
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| Title: Re: Feeling bad |
30 Oct 2005 12:53:20 PM |
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MM, I think it might be worth your while to try group therapy. It is
not only a cheap form of therapy, but it does provide for more social
interaction in a reasonably safe setting. Is this possible in your
area?
--
Nom dePlume, Ph.D.
Why, yes, in fact, I am a rocket scientist.
Guide to Medications for Mental Illness:
http://www.geocities.com/nomdeplume1000/
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"millipede man" <huaNOTSORTAngm@earNOTSORTAthlink.net> wrote in
message news:Xns96FF67CF091A5huangmNOTSORTANOTSOR@127.0.0.1...
I slept very poorly last night. It was very late before I went to
bed, and
even then I didn't fall asleep right away. During the night, I woke
up at
least once. The night was (as usual) a seemingly continuous stream
of
anxious dreams. When the anxiety level built up to the level of
panic, I
woke up. Then it took a while to fall asleep again.
Today, I feel tired, sad, and lonely. I keep thinking that I will
fail to
lose weight, fail to conquer my social phobia, and fail to make
friends. I
keep thinking that my life will continue to be this miserable until
I die.
Life is like a speeding train, and I'm running behind the train,
desperately trying to catch up.
- millipede man
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| User: "millipede man" |
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| Title: Re: Feeling bad |
30 Oct 2005 01:21:37 PM |
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Yes, I did try group therapy for social phobia. It was somewhat helpful, and
I think I need to focus on following up on this in my individual therapy.
My pdoc thinks I suffer from more anxiety disorders in addition to SP, and I
think he is right. I hope some combination of meds and therapy will help.
"Nom dePlume" <nomdeplume1000-at-yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dk356301d08@news3.newsguy.com...
MM, I think it might be worth your while to try group therapy. It is
not only a cheap form of therapy, but it does provide for more social
interaction in a reasonably safe setting. Is this possible in your
area?
--
Nom dePlume, Ph.D.
Why, yes, in fact, I am a rocket scientist.
Guide to Medications for Mental Illness:
http://www.geocities.com/nomdeplume1000/
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| User: "David" |
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| Title: Re: Feeling bad |
30 Oct 2005 12:57:14 PM |
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Sometimes a recent change in medication can cause this. I've been
feeling like this, but its starting to improve.
millipede man wrote:
I slept very poorly last night. It was very late before I went to bed, and
even then I didn't fall asleep right away. During the night, I woke up at
least once. The night was (as usual) a seemingly continuous stream of
anxious dreams. When the anxiety level built up to the level of panic, I
woke up. Then it took a while to fall asleep again.
Today, I feel tired, sad, and lonely. I keep thinking that I will fail to
lose weight, fail to conquer my social phobia, and fail to make friends. I
keep thinking that my life will continue to be this miserable until I die.
Life is like a speeding train, and I'm running behind the train,
desperately trying to catch up.
- millipede man
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