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30 Jan 2006 07:23:03 PM |
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FEMALE MOOSE DON'T MAKE MATING CALLS |
only male moose make mating calls ,
female moose ... answer them ,
but they don't make them , they don't like to give out their locations ,
but if the rut is on and a bull is close a cow hearing the mating call may
reply
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| User: "Bev Thornton" |
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| Title: Re: FEMALE MOOSE DON'T MAKE MATING CALLS |
01 Feb 2006 01:52:11 PM |
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On 2006-01-31, % wrote:
only male moose make mating calls ,
female moose ... answer them ,
but they don't make them , they don't like to give out their locations ,
but if the rut is on and a bull is close a cow hearing the mating call may
reply
That's bull.
The one that replies is the bull, with a grunt.
Although moose are generally timid, the males become very bold during
the autumn breeding season; it is not uncommon for them to charge at
moving trains. The females utter a loud call, similar to the lowing of
cattle, which can be heard from up to 3.2 km away. During breeding
(the rut), males will compete for females by fighting with their
antlers and hoofs and by fierce clashing of antlers. As well as
bellowing, the female moose emits a strong, odoriferous pheromone in
order to attract a mate. She also secretes pheromones in her urine
which lets the males know that she is in estrus. Females generally
begin to breed at 2, but more usually 3, years of age.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moose>
Even young kids can do incredibly good cow calls with just a little
bit of practice...
<http://www.outdoorsdirectory.com/magazine/calling-moose.htm>
I like moose. Freed one from a game farm back in the eighties.
Maybe someone's been pulling your leg on moose hunting.
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| User: "%" |
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01 Feb 2006 02:05:26 PM |
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"Bev Thornton" <0201112940.4.bev@xoxy.net> wrote in message
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On 2006-01-31, % wrote:
only male moose make mating calls ,
female moose ... answer them ,
but they don't make them , they don't like to give out their locations ,
but if the rut is on and a bull is close a cow hearing the mating call
may
reply
That's bull.
The one that replies is the bull, with a grunt.
Although moose are generally timid, the males become very bold during
the autumn breeding season; it is not uncommon for them to charge at
moving trains. The females utter a loud call, similar to the lowing of
cattle, which can be heard from up to 3.2 km away. During breeding
(the rut), males will compete for females by fighting with their
antlers and hoofs and by fierce clashing of antlers. As well as
bellowing, the female moose emits a strong, odoriferous pheromone in
order to attract a mate. She also secretes pheromones in her urine
which lets the males know that she is in estrus. Females generally
begin to breed at 2, but more usually 3, years of age.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moose>
Even young kids can do incredibly good cow calls with just a little
bit of practice...
<http://www.outdoorsdirectory.com/magazine/calling-moose.htm>
I like moose. Freed one from a game farm back in the eighties.
Maybe someone's been pulling your leg on moose hunting.
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<email.4.bev@xoxy.net> Support: <http://www.fardasl.org/>
When you realize how clear everything is,
you will tilt your head back and laugh at the sky.
ok then , the female moose in my backyard don't make mating calls ,
but i guess the moose in downtown Burnaby do
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| User: "Bev Thornton" |
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| Title: Re: FEMALE MOOSE DON'T MAKE MATING CALLS |
01 Feb 2006 03:00:40 PM |
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On 2006-02-01, % wrote:
ok then , the female moose in my backyard don't make mating calls ,
but i guess the moose in downtown Burnaby do
No, they all have the same behaviour, worldwide.
You're mistaking the refusal moan of a cow that is not in estrus with the
call of a cow that is in estrus. When the cow is not in heat, it doesn't
want to be found, the only males it wants to be around are young,
immature. If a bull comes along, it makes a moan to communicate that it
isn't in heat. When it is in heat, the cow bellows to attract a mate.
That's a call. That's why males have to travel during the rut, they're
being attracted by the calls and the scent of the females in estrus. The
cow call can be heard for two miles, it's an attractant. It's the loudest
and longest-carrying sound made by moose.
An explanation:
Vic Van Balenberg is a Research Wildlife Biologist who works in
Alaska's Denali National Park. He says that male moose make a sort of
croaking sound when they're advertising for a mate. If the female
isn't interested, she makes what's called a "protest moan."
"What the cow is saying is basically, you know, "Leave me alone". And
it serves a real function in that the older bulls, the more mature
bulls, will approach a cow that is moaning in response to being
courted by younger bulls, and he'll actually chase the younger bulls
off."
<http://www.pulseplanet.com/archive/Sep00/2227.html>
There is an explanation of the differenct sounds, either the refusal or
the mating call, on this page:
<http://www.camerahunter.com/the_mooseman.html>
Zounds, Batman, sounds!
<http://www.sherryfelix.com/Creatures/Moose/Moose.htm>
"If we could talk to the animals, learn their languages
Think of all the things we could discuss
If we could walk with the animals, talk with the animals,
Grunt and squeak and squawk with the animals,
And they could squeak and squawk and speak and talk to us."
- from Dr Doolittle
<http://www.pagebypagebooks.com/Hugh_Lofting/The_Story_of_Doctor_Dolittle/>
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| User: "%" |
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01 Feb 2006 03:05:47 PM |
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"Bev Thornton" <0201122610.4.bev@xoxy.net> wrote in message
news:slrndu28bn.2f1.1.4.bev@xoxy.net...
On 2006-02-01, % wrote:
ok then , the female moose in my backyard don't make mating calls ,
but i guess the moose in downtown Burnaby do
No, they all have the same behaviour, worldwide.
You're mistaking the refusal moan of a cow that is not in estrus with the
call of a cow that is in estrus. When the cow is not in heat, it doesn't
want to be found, the only males it wants to be around are young,
immature. If a bull comes along, it makes a moan to communicate that it
isn't in heat. When it is in heat, the cow bellows to attract a mate.
That's a call. That's why males have to travel during the rut, they're
being attracted by the calls and the scent of the females in estrus. The
cow call can be heard for two miles, it's an attractant. It's the loudest
and longest-carrying sound made by moose.
An explanation:
Vic Van Balenberg is a Research Wildlife Biologist who works in
Alaska's Denali National Park. He says that male moose make a sort of
croaking sound when they're advertising for a mate. If the female
isn't interested, she makes what's called a "protest moan."
"What the cow is saying is basically, you know, "Leave me alone". And
it serves a real function in that the older bulls, the more mature
bulls, will approach a cow that is moaning in response to being
courted by younger bulls, and he'll actually chase the younger bulls
off."
<http://www.pulseplanet.com/archive/Sep00/2227.html>
There is an explanation of the differenct sounds, either the refusal or
the mating call, on this page:
<http://www.camerahunter.com/the_mooseman.html>
Zounds, Batman, sounds!
<http://www.sherryfelix.com/Creatures/Moose/Moose.htm>
"If we could talk to the animals, learn their languages
Think of all the things we could discuss
If we could walk with the animals, talk with the animals,
Grunt and squeak and squawk with the animals,
And they could squeak and squawk and speak and talk to us."
- from Dr Doolittle
<http://www.pagebypagebooks.com/Hugh_Lofting/The_Story_of_Doctor_Dolittle/>
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Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future,
concentrate on this very moment.
the female moose where i live don't make mating calls and there's an end to
it
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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01 Feb 2006 03:44:23 PM |
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In message <BdqdnQA36652v3zeRVn-gg@giganews.com>, % <persent@Gmail.com>
writes
"Bev Thornton" <0201122610.4.bev@xoxy.net> wrote in message
news:slrndu28bn.2f1.1.4.bev@xoxy.net...
On 2006-02-01, % wrote:
ok then , the female moose in my backyard don't make mating calls ,
but i guess the moose in downtown Burnaby do
No, they all have the same behaviour, worldwide.
You're mistaking the refusal moan of a cow that is not in estrus with the
call of a cow that is in estrus. When the cow is not in heat, it doesn't
want to be found, the only males it wants to be around are young,
immature. If a bull comes along, it makes a moan to communicate that it
isn't in heat. When it is in heat, the cow bellows to attract a mate.
That's a call. That's why males have to travel during the rut, they're
being attracted by the calls and the scent of the females in estrus. The
cow call can be heard for two miles, it's an attractant. It's the loudest
and longest-carrying sound made by moose.
An explanation:
Vic Van Balenberg is a Research Wildlife Biologist who works in
Alaska's Denali National Park. He says that male moose make a sort of
croaking sound when they're advertising for a mate. If the female
isn't interested, she makes what's called a "protest moan."
"What the cow is saying is basically, you know, "Leave me alone". And
it serves a real function in that the older bulls, the more mature
bulls, will approach a cow that is moaning in response to being
courted by younger bulls, and he'll actually chase the younger bulls
off."
<http://www.pulseplanet.com/archive/Sep00/2227.html>
There is an explanation of the differenct sounds, either the refusal or
the mating call, on this page:
<http://www.camerahunter.com/the_mooseman.html>
the female moose where i live don't make mating calls and there's an end to
it
Why persist when we all know you're wrong?
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "%" |
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01 Feb 2006 05:04:12 PM |
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"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:gTc2OIS3uS4DFwT3@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <BdqdnQA36652v3zeRVn-gg@giganews.com>, % <persent@Gmail.com>
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"Bev Thornton" <0201122610.4.bev@xoxy.net> wrote in message
news:slrndu28bn.2f1.1.4.bev@xoxy.net...
On 2006-02-01, % wrote:
ok then , the female moose in my backyard don't make mating calls ,
but i guess the moose in downtown Burnaby do
No, they all have the same behaviour, worldwide.
You're mistaking the refusal moan of a cow that is not in estrus with
the
call of a cow that is in estrus. When the cow is not in heat, it
doesn't
want to be found, the only males it wants to be around are young,
immature. If a bull comes along, it makes a moan to communicate that it
isn't in heat. When it is in heat, the cow bellows to attract a mate.
That's a call. That's why males have to travel during the rut, they're
being attracted by the calls and the scent of the females in estrus.
The
cow call can be heard for two miles, it's an attractant. It's the
loudest
and longest-carrying sound made by moose.
An explanation:
Vic Van Balenberg is a Research Wildlife Biologist who works in
Alaska's Denali National Park. He says that male moose make a sort of
croaking sound when they're advertising for a mate. If the female
isn't interested, she makes what's called a "protest moan."
"What the cow is saying is basically, you know, "Leave me alone". And
it serves a real function in that the older bulls, the more mature
bulls, will approach a cow that is moaning in response to being
courted by younger bulls, and he'll actually chase the younger bulls
off."
<http://www.pulseplanet.com/archive/Sep00/2227.html>
There is an explanation of the differenct sounds, either the refusal or
the mating call, on this page:
<http://www.camerahunter.com/the_mooseman.html>
the female moose where i live don't make mating calls and there's an end
to
it
Why persist when we all know you're wrong?
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
5 bucks
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| User: "Bev Thornton" |
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01 Feb 2006 05:58:07 PM |
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On 2006-02-01, % wrote:
the female moose where i live don't make mating calls and there's an end to
it
OK, then, what planet are you on?
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| User: "%" |
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01 Feb 2006 06:44:24 PM |
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"Bev Thornton" <0201155727.4.bev@xoxy.net> wrote in message
news:slrndu2iof.6kp.1.4.bev@xoxy.net...
On 2006-02-01, % wrote:
the female moose where i live don't make mating calls and there's an end
to
it
OK, then, what planet are you on?
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the one where i'm the boss
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| User: "Bev Thornton" |
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01 Feb 2006 07:17:41 PM |
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On 2006-02-02, % wrote:
"Bev Thornton" <0201155727.4.bev@xoxy.net> wrote in message
news:slrndu2iof.6kp.1.4.bev@xoxy.net...
On 2006-02-01, % wrote:
the female moose where i live don't make mating calls and there's an
end to it
OK, then, what planet are you on?
the one where i'm the boss
That's too bad. They have treatment for that these days.
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and one will be loved by the good and hated by the bad.
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| User: "%" |
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01 Feb 2006 07:22:16 PM |
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"Bev Thornton" <0201171638.4.bev@xoxy.net> wrote in message
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On 2006-02-02, % wrote:
"Bev Thornton" <0201155727.4.bev@xoxy.net> wrote in message
news:slrndu2iof.6kp.1.4.bev@xoxy.net...
On 2006-02-01, % wrote:
the female moose where i live don't make mating calls and there's an
end to it
OK, then, what planet are you on?
the one where i'm the boss
That's too bad. They have treatment for that these days.
--
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Let one admonish; let one teach; let one forbid the wrong;
and one will be loved by the good and hated by the bad.
did i say i wanted to change anything ,
did i say i wish i could get help for it ,
no i didn't , so save your world saving for someone else
i enjoy being the boss right now thank you
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| User: "Bev Thornton" |
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01 Feb 2006 10:31:40 PM |
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On 2006-02-02, % wrote:
did i say i wanted to change anything ,
did i say i wish i could get help for it ,
no i didn't , so save your world saving for someone else
i enjoy being the boss right now thank you
It's only in your mind.
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| User: "%" |
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01 Feb 2006 11:01:27 PM |
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"Bev Thornton" <0201203118.4.bev@xoxy.net> wrote in message
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On 2006-02-02, % wrote:
did i say i wanted to change anything ,
did i say i wish i could get help for it ,
no i didn't , so save your world saving for someone else
i enjoy being the boss right now thank you
It's only in your mind.
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the perfect place , the only important place
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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02 Feb 2006 12:56:28 AM |
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In message <slrndu2ndl.6kp.1.4.bev@xoxy.net>, Bev Thornton
<0201171638.4.bev@xoxy.net> writes
On 2006-02-02, % wrote:
"Bev Thornton" <0201155727.4.bev@xoxy.net> wrote in message
news:slrndu2iof.6kp.1.4.bev@xoxy.net...
On 2006-02-01, % wrote:
the female moose where i live don't make mating calls and there's an
end to it
OK, then, what planet are you on?
the one where i'm the boss
That's too bad. They have treatment for that these days.
Have they moved on from the old two bricks treatment? It only worked on
men anyway.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "Bev Thornton" |
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02 Feb 2006 10:26:22 AM |
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On 2006-02-02, Alan Harding wrote:
In message <slrndu2ndl.6kp.1.4.bev@xoxy.net>, Bev Thornton
<0201171638.4.bev@xoxy.net> writes
On 2006-02-02, % wrote:
"Bev Thornton" <0201155727.4.bev@xoxy.net> wrote in message
news:slrndu2iof.6kp.1.4.bev@xoxy.net...
On 2006-02-01, % wrote:
the female moose where i live don't make mating calls and there's an
end to it
OK, then, what planet are you on?
the one where i'm the boss
That's too bad. They have treatment for that these days.
Have they moved on from the old two bricks treatment? It only worked on
men anyway.
They replaced the bricks with acceptance and change.
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02 Feb 2006 10:29:57 AM |
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"Bev Thornton" <0202082530.4.bev@xoxy.net> wrote in message
news:slrndu4cld.om1.1.4.bev@xoxy.net...
On 2006-02-02, Alan Harding wrote:
In message <slrndu2ndl.6kp.1.4.bev@xoxy.net>, Bev Thornton
<0201171638.4.bev@xoxy.net> writes
On 2006-02-02, % wrote:
"Bev Thornton" <0201155727.4.bev@xoxy.net> wrote in message
news:slrndu2iof.6kp.1.4.bev@xoxy.net...
On 2006-02-01, % wrote:
the female moose where i live don't make mating calls and there's
an
end to it
OK, then, what planet are you on?
the one where i'm the boss
That's too bad. They have treatment for that these days.
Have they moved on from the old two bricks treatment? It only worked on
men anyway.
They replaced the bricks with acceptance and change.
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<http://www.safer-networking.org/>
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you can get change at McDonalds
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02 Feb 2006 12:54:55 PM |
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In message <0oudneRFv6Rern_eRVn-uA@giganews.com>, % <persent@Gmail.com>
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"Bev Thornton" <0202082530.4.bev@xoxy.net> wrote in message
news:slrndu4cld.om1.1.4.bev@xoxy.net...
On 2006-02-02, Alan Harding wrote:
In message <slrndu2ndl.6kp.1.4.bev@xoxy.net>, Bev Thornton
<0201171638.4.bev@xoxy.net> writes
On 2006-02-02, % wrote:
"Bev Thornton" <0201155727.4.bev@xoxy.net> wrote in message
news:slrndu2iof.6kp.1.4.bev@xoxy.net...
On 2006-02-01, % wrote:
the female moose where i live don't make mating calls and there's
an
end to it
OK, then, what planet are you on?
the one where i'm the boss
That's too bad. They have treatment for that these days.
Have they moved on from the old two bricks treatment? It only worked on
men anyway.
They replaced the bricks with acceptance and change.
you can get change at McDonalds
For five bucks?
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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02 Feb 2006 02:17:00 PM |
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"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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In message <0oudneRFv6Rern_eRVn-uA@giganews.com>, % <persent@Gmail.com>
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"Bev Thornton" <0202082530.4.bev@xoxy.net> wrote in message
news:slrndu4cld.om1.1.4.bev@xoxy.net...
On 2006-02-02, Alan Harding wrote:
In message <slrndu2ndl.6kp.1.4.bev@xoxy.net>, Bev Thornton
<0201171638.4.bev@xoxy.net> writes
On 2006-02-02, % wrote:
"Bev Thornton" <0201155727.4.bev@xoxy.net> wrote in message
news:slrndu2iof.6kp.1.4.bev@xoxy.net...
On 2006-02-01, % wrote:
the female moose where i live don't make mating calls and
there's
an
end to it
OK, then, what planet are you on?
the one where i'm the boss
That's too bad. They have treatment for that these days.
Have they moved on from the old two bricks treatment? It only worked
on
men anyway.
They replaced the bricks with acceptance and change.
you can get change at McDonalds
For five bucks?
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
give me 5 bucks and i'll tell you
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01 Feb 2006 05:12:43 PM |
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Hi Bev,
Wednesday February 01 2006, Bev Thornton writes to All:
From:
No, they all have the same behaviour, worldwide.
You're mistaking the refusal moan of a cow that is not in
estrus with the call of a cow that is in estrus. When the
Bingo!
Your exactly right Bev... I used to hunt big game before I broke my neck.
Gufus
mailto:info@gypsy-designs.com
http://www.gypsy-designs.com
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01 Feb 2006 05:54:11 PM |
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On 2006-02-01, Gufus wrote:
Your exactly right Bev... I used to hunt big game before I broke my neck.
One time I tried to hunt a moose, but couldn't kill it. I could have shot
it, easy, had a really nice rifle all tuned-up. I was going to a good spot
and it crossed in front of me, I stalked it. It went to a stream and I had
a good shot all lined up, but I could see it so close with the scope and
there it was and I just couldn't kill it. Didn't need the meat anyway.
I'd like to ride one.
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| User: "Gufus" |
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| Title: Re: FEMALE MOOSE DON'T MAKE MATING CALLS |
03 Feb 2006 02:34:33 PM |
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Hi Bev,
Wednesday February 01 2006, Bev Thornton writes to Gufus:
From:
One time I tried to hunt a moose, but couldn't kill it. I
Well, even most big game hunters have that same feeling. It's a lot of fun to
get out in to the great out doors, and do some camping. Beats the he** out of
the city life, and all that go's with it.
I'd like to ride one.
Yahoooooo!
Gufus
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.... No sense being pessimistic. It wouldn't work anyway.
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| User: "Bev Thornton" |
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| Title: Re: FEMALE MOOSE DON'T MAKE MATING CALLS |
05 Feb 2006 01:02:54 PM |
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On 2006-02-03, Gufus wrote:
Wednesday February 01 2006, Bev Thornton writes to Gufus:
From:
One time I tried to hunt a moose, but couldn't kill it. I
Well, even most big game hunters have that same feeling. It's a lot of fun to
get out in to the great out doors, and do some camping. Beats the he** out of
the city life, and all that go's with it.
It's been almost a year for me, I've been too busy, no time off.
I'd like to ride one.
Yahoooooo!
People used to, or at least some soldiers used to. Several countries in
Scandinavia and Northern and Eastern Europe used to field moose cavalry.
The training method has been lost.
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