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Sociology > Depression |
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"hotshot" |
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25 Jul 2007 08:07:05 AM |
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fight depression and get your life back |
I've suffered from Major Depression for since feb of 1990. I didn't know
what it was, why I got it, or how to make it go away. I went to a doctor
(GP) and he thought I had low blood sugar, but after some tests found that I
didn't and thought I had depression and prescribed a narcotic which
basically put me to sleep when I took it.
After 5 months of this, I had a major panic attack in a local supermarket
and the depression got 100 times worse so I went to the hospital and met a
quack of a Psychiatrist that put me on Prozac. Well that was the only thing
he did right... the quack part came in the form of HIS therapy. Needless to
say I got all the side effects of the prozac and it wasn't a picnic and all
I would do is sleep as much as possible for the next 6 months. Well, the
pills weren't helping much and told him about it and all he said was "you
have to fight it"... the only good advise he gave me. So I got up and
started getting as active as I could even though every part of my being just
wanted to stay home find a dark corner and sleep. I started walking, first
a mile a day, then got up to 3 miles a day. Then I got interested in
computers and that really saved me. I started out with a Tandy CoCo2 that
was given to me and figuring out how to run it kept my mind busy. I then
got an 8088 which was the new thing with jut a dos system and created a
database program with it.
At this point I stayed away from people out of embarrassment and didn't work
but kept up with all the new computer technology as it came out. I was
formerly a car salesman so I became a wholesaler to start making money ....
I still felt the depression but only during the day and not even a fraction
of what it was like when it started or the first year I slept on it.
After 4 more years the depression was completely gone and I stopped taking
the prozac. That was Nov 1994 and till Nov of 1995 was depression free and
then I got hit again. This time I saw a counselor who told me I should have
stayed on a maintenance dose and not go completely off the prozac, so I went
to a regular doctor and asked for a prescription for zoloft instead of the
prozac. Plus I started getting busy again starting new projects and keeping
my mind busy. That lasted 7 years when finally the zoloft stopped working
and I was having seizures from it which i didn't know the cause untill I got
off it. So this time I went to a Psychiatric Clinic and started taking a
combination of Lexapro, Chlonazpham, and Welbutron all at very low doses.
The Chlonazapham is what really did the trick because I took it before bed
and it helped me sleep better.
Point is not the drugs but the combination of the drugs and fighting like
hell and not giving in to depression. I find also listening to talk radio
is one of the best therapies because it makes my problems feel like nothing
compared to what going on in the world today.
Anyway, for those of you sleeping out there,
GET UP AND FIGHT !!!!! no matter how hard it is, it's the only way to get
your life back. That and a few drugs may help but try not to rely too much
on drug therapy. keep feeding your mind and don't give in to this hiddious
disease... Kick It's *****!!!
hope this helps
Dave
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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| Title: Re: fight depression and get your life back |
25 Jul 2007 10:42:08 AM |
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"hotshot" <hotshot@home.com> wrote in message
news:46a74b01$0$4361$ec3e2dad@unlimited.usenetmonster.com...
I've suffered from Major Depression for since feb of 1990. I didn't know
what it was, why I got it, or how to make it go away. I went to a doctor
(GP) and he thought I had low blood sugar, but after some tests found that
I
didn't and thought I had depression and prescribed a narcotic which
basically put me to sleep when I took it.
After 5 months of this, I had a major panic attack in a local supermarket
and the depression got 100 times worse so I went to the hospital and met a
quack of a Psychiatrist that put me on Prozac. Well that was the only
thing
he did right... the quack part came in the form of HIS therapy. Needless
to
say I got all the side effects of the prozac and it wasn't a picnic and
all
I would do is sleep as much as possible for the next 6 months. Well, the
pills weren't helping much and told him about it and all he said was "you
have to fight it"... the only good advise he gave me. So I got up and
started getting as active as I could even though every part of my being
just
wanted to stay home find a dark corner and sleep. I started walking,
first
a mile a day, then got up to 3 miles a day. Then I got interested in
computers and that really saved me. I started out with a Tandy CoCo2 that
was given to me and figuring out how to run it kept my mind busy. I then
got an 8088 which was the new thing with jut a dos system and created a
database program with it.
At this point I stayed away from people out of embarrassment and didn't
work
but kept up with all the new computer technology as it came out. I was
formerly a car salesman so I became a wholesaler to start making money
....
I still felt the depression but only during the day and not even a
fraction
of what it was like when it started or the first year I slept on it.
After 4 more years the depression was completely gone and I stopped taking
the prozac. That was Nov 1994 and till Nov of 1995 was depression free
and
then I got hit again. This time I saw a counselor who told me I should
have
stayed on a maintenance dose and not go completely off the prozac, so I
went
to a regular doctor and asked for a prescription for zoloft instead of the
prozac. Plus I started getting busy again starting new projects and
keeping
my mind busy. That lasted 7 years when finally the zoloft stopped working
and I was having seizures from it which i didn't know the cause untill I
got
off it. So this time I went to a Psychiatric Clinic and started taking a
combination of Lexapro, Chlonazpham, and Welbutron all at very low doses.
The Chlonazapham is what really did the trick because I took it before bed
and it helped me sleep better.
Point is not the drugs but the combination of the drugs and fighting like
hell and not giving in to depression. I find also listening to talk radio
is one of the best therapies because it makes my problems feel like
nothing
compared to what going on in the world today.
Anyway, for those of you sleeping out there,
GET UP AND FIGHT !!!!! no matter how hard it is, it's the only way to get
your life back. That and a few drugs may help but try not to rely too much
on drug therapy. keep feeding your mind and don't give in to this
hiddious
disease... Kick It's *****!!!
hope this helps
Dave
Welcome to ASD. :-)
--
Rhi
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| User: "David" |
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| Title: Re: fight depression and get your life back |
25 Jul 2007 08:22:25 AM |
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The mob hurt me in 1982, all you need is just to take your medicaiton.
"hotshot" <hotshot@home.com> wrote in message
news:46a74b01$0$4361$ec3e2dad@unlimited.usenetmonster.com...
I've suffered from Major Depression for since feb of 1990. I didn't know
what it was, why I got it, or how to make it go away. I went to a doctor
(GP) and he thought I had low blood sugar, but after some tests found that
I
didn't and thought I had depression and prescribed a narcotic which
basically put me to sleep when I took it.
After 5 months of this, I had a major panic attack in a local supermarket
and the depression got 100 times worse so I went to the hospital and met a
quack of a Psychiatrist that put me on Prozac. Well that was the only
thing
he did right... the quack part came in the form of HIS therapy. Needless
to
say I got all the side effects of the prozac and it wasn't a picnic and
all
I would do is sleep as much as possible for the next 6 months. Well, the
pills weren't helping much and told him about it and all he said was "you
have to fight it"... the only good advise he gave me. So I got up and
started getting as active as I could even though every part of my being
just
wanted to stay home find a dark corner and sleep. I started walking,
first
a mile a day, then got up to 3 miles a day. Then I got interested in
computers and that really saved me. I started out with a Tandy CoCo2 that
was given to me and figuring out how to run it kept my mind busy. I then
got an 8088 which was the new thing with jut a dos system and created a
database program with it.
At this point I stayed away from people out of embarrassment and didn't
work
but kept up with all the new computer technology as it came out. I was
formerly a car salesman so I became a wholesaler to start making money
....
I still felt the depression but only during the day and not even a
fraction
of what it was like when it started or the first year I slept on it.
After 4 more years the depression was completely gone and I stopped taking
the prozac. That was Nov 1994 and till Nov of 1995 was depression free
and
then I got hit again. This time I saw a counselor who told me I should
have
stayed on a maintenance dose and not go completely off the prozac, so I
went
to a regular doctor and asked for a prescription for zoloft instead of the
prozac. Plus I started getting busy again starting new projects and
keeping
my mind busy. That lasted 7 years when finally the zoloft stopped working
and I was having seizures from it which i didn't know the cause untill I
got
off it. So this time I went to a Psychiatric Clinic and started taking a
combination of Lexapro, Chlonazpham, and Welbutron all at very low doses.
The Chlonazapham is what really did the trick because I took it before bed
and it helped me sleep better.
Point is not the drugs but the combination of the drugs and fighting like
hell and not giving in to depression. I find also listening to talk radio
is one of the best therapies because it makes my problems feel like
nothing
compared to what going on in the world today.
Anyway, for those of you sleeping out there,
GET UP AND FIGHT !!!!! no matter how hard it is, it's the only way to get
your life back. That and a few drugs may help but try not to rely too much
on drug therapy. keep feeding your mind and don't give in to this
hiddious
disease... Kick It's *****!!!
hope this helps
Dave
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| User: "humble life" |
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| Title: Re: fight depression and get your life back |
25 Jul 2007 08:38:53 AM |
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hotshot wrote:
I've suffered from Major Depression for since feb of 1990. I didn't know
what it was, why I got it, or how to make it go away. I went to a doctor
(GP) and he thought I had low blood sugar, but after some tests found that I
didn't and thought I had depression and prescribed a narcotic which
basically put me to sleep when I took it.
After 5 months of this, I had a major panic attack in a local supermarket
and the depression got 100 times worse so I went to the hospital and met a
quack of a Psychiatrist that put me on Prozac. Well that was the only thing
he did right... the quack part came in the form of HIS therapy. Needless to
say I got all the side effects of the prozac and it wasn't a picnic and all
I would do is sleep as much as possible for the next 6 months. Well, the
pills weren't helping much and told him about it and all he said was "you
have to fight it"... the only good advise he gave me. So I got up and
started getting as active as I could even though every part of my being just
wanted to stay home find a dark corner and sleep. I started walking, first
a mile a day, then got up to 3 miles a day. Then I got interested in
computers and that really saved me. I started out with a Tandy CoCo2 that
was given to me and figuring out how to run it kept my mind busy. I then
got an 8088 which was the new thing with jut a dos system and created a
database program with it.
At this point I stayed away from people out of embarrassment and didn't work
but kept up with all the new computer technology as it came out. I was
formerly a car salesman so I became a wholesaler to start making money ....
I still felt the depression but only during the day and not even a fraction
of what it was like when it started or the first year I slept on it.
After 4 more years the depression was completely gone and I stopped taking
the prozac. That was Nov 1994 and till Nov of 1995 was depression free and
then I got hit again. This time I saw a counselor who told me I should have
stayed on a maintenance dose and not go completely off the prozac, so I went
to a regular doctor and asked for a prescription for zoloft instead of the
prozac. Plus I started getting busy again starting new projects and keeping
my mind busy. That lasted 7 years when finally the zoloft stopped working
and I was having seizures from it which i didn't know the cause untill I got
off it. So this time I went to a Psychiatric Clinic and started taking a
combination of Lexapro, Chlonazpham, and Welbutron all at very low doses.
The Chlonazapham is what really did the trick because I took it before bed
and it helped me sleep better.
Point is not the drugs but the combination of the drugs and fighting like
hell and not giving in to depression. I find also listening to talk radio
is one of the best therapies because it makes my problems feel like nothing
compared to what going on in the world today.
Anyway, for those of you sleeping out there,
GET UP AND FIGHT !!!!! no matter how hard it is, it's the only way to get
your life back. That and a few drugs may help but try not to rely too much
on drug therapy. keep feeding your mind and don't give in to this hiddious
disease... Kick It's *****!!!
hope this helps
Dave
Hi,
I'm worried about the resource wars that are coming. You see we need to
continuously make and produce things in order to produce an economy, but
those things are running out fast. In the next 30 years, oil will be a
problem. Most "synthesised" goods come from oil, along with petrol and
diesel. Recycling is an issue due to the loss experienced when melting
down alloys and metals. The more you melt down those particicles, the
more they can't take it the next time. Every product is slightly
reducing the earths resources. But because of the severe amount of
production in the world today, cumilitively speaking, we're talking crisis.
As we can see, from WWI and WWII through to Vietnam and Iran and Iraq,
when countries become pressured, they become hostile. For some people,
war is big big business. They want to see their products in action.
Running in realtime. It's their business.
Every country with manufacturing ability is concerned about resource.
Human "resource" for manufacturing and very little concern, when it
boils down to it, for humanitarianisation. They offer it, but only ever
in some sort of "deal".
Your life is someone elses deal 90% of the time. Your guilt about
money. Your guilt about whether you're doing the right thing in life.
All of it is down to the people involved above.
Do tell me how I'm supposed to extract myself from that....
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| User: "azure" |
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| Title: Re: fight depression and get your life back |
25 Jul 2007 11:48:30 AM |
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"humble life" <humble.life@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:5gp217F3g1np0U1@mid.individual.net...
hotshot wrote:
[...] Anyway, for those of you sleeping out there,
GET UP AND FIGHT !!!!! [...] Kick It's *****!!!
I'm worried about the resource wars that are coming. [...]
Do tell me how I'm supposed to extract myself from that....
I'm not the person who you are answering, but something in me rather
resonates with your question. I hope I'm not misreading or oversimplifying,
but ...
When I was a child, a very young child, someone told us that by a definite
date, the world would strangle in its own pollution. It would become so
polluted, life on it would become impossible and we would all die. I
believe, but can't be sure, that this was a guest lecturer at school. An
elementary school, which means they were talking to very young kids. And
they mentioned a definite date -- a date I would be an adult, but still
young.
I was terrified. I asked my mother if this was true, and unfortunately she
was busy or something, and couldn't really focus on my question, so she
said, "could be." So I walked around for about a week believing that I
would die young and all of my family would be killed when the world
strangled on its own pollution by a very definite date.
Well, I'm over 50 and this hasn't happened yet.
After about a week of horror, my mind flipped an "off" switch and I decided
that it was probably *****. I don't know for a fact that everything they
said was ***** ... much was probably true ... but there is one thing I do
know: that week of fear carved out of my childhood was useless. It was
absolutely a waste of energy, and made me angry toward environmentalists and
resent their tactics.
Furthermore, it depleted my ability to face very real things I was facing in
childhood, things that had first made me want to off myself at age 10.
What I see you putting out here to worry about are things that are really
big and global and which individual human beings have absolutely NO CONTROL
over. Any more than I as a child when told that cruel prediction by
alarmist agitators.
You say, "Do tell me how I'm supposed to extract myself from that...." I
guess I have a need to answer this post because I too feel like my life is
being run by factors over which I have no control. I'm unemployed ... and
sometimes I feel unemployable.
Yet -- I know that the solution is to look at the factors over which I DO
have control (and there are some!), and exert that control. And put the
rest out of my mind ... other than acknowledging it as factors that exist so
I don't beat myself up.
I think that the fight to find and claim the control we do have over our
lives, is the major fight. And to not be our own worst enemies and, with
the left hand, knock out of reach what we are reaching for with the right
hand.
azure
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Everything looks permanent
until its secret is known.
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson
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| User: "humble life" |
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25 Jul 2007 12:47:55 PM |
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azure wrote:
"humble life" <humble.life@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:5gp217F3g1np0U1@mid.individual.net...
hotshot wrote:
[...] Anyway, for those of you sleeping out there,
GET UP AND FIGHT !!!!! [...] Kick It's *****!!!
I'm worried about the resource wars that are coming. [...]
Do tell me how I'm supposed to extract myself from that....
I'm not the person who you are answering, but something in me rather
resonates with your question. I hope I'm not misreading or oversimplifying,
but ...
When I was a child, a very young child, someone told us that by a definite
date, the world would strangle in its own pollution. It would become so
polluted, life on it would become impossible and we would all die. I
believe, but can't be sure, that this was a guest lecturer at school. An
elementary school, which means they were talking to very young kids. And
they mentioned a definite date -- a date I would be an adult, but still
young.
I was terrified. I asked my mother if this was true, and unfortunately she
was busy or something, and couldn't really focus on my question, so she
said, "could be." So I walked around for about a week believing that I
would die young and all of my family would be killed when the world
strangled on its own pollution by a very definite date.
Well, I'm over 50 and this hasn't happened yet.
After about a week of horror, my mind flipped an "off" switch and I decided
that it was probably *****. I don't know for a fact that everything they
said was ***** ... much was probably true ... but there is one thing I do
know: that week of fear carved out of my childhood was useless. It was
absolutely a waste of energy, and made me angry toward environmentalists and
resent their tactics.
Furthermore, it depleted my ability to face very real things I was facing in
childhood, things that had first made me want to off myself at age 10.
What I see you putting out here to worry about are things that are really
big and global and which individual human beings have absolutely NO CONTROL
over. Any more than I as a child when told that cruel prediction by
alarmist agitators.
You say, "Do tell me how I'm supposed to extract myself from that...." I
guess I have a need to answer this post because I too feel like my life is
being run by factors over which I have no control. I'm unemployed ... and
sometimes I feel unemployable.
Yet -- I know that the solution is to look at the factors over which I DO
have control (and there are some!), and exert that control. And put the
rest out of my mind ... other than acknowledging it as factors that exist so
I don't beat myself up.
I think that the fight to find and claim the control we do have over our
lives, is the major fight. And to not be our own worst enemies and, with
the left hand, knock out of reach what we are reaching for with the right
hand.
azure
i think you're missing what's happened in asia and parts of china, who
have killed entire towns with exactly what you're talking about.
own anything made in China?
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| User: "azure" |
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25 Jul 2007 07:03:47 PM |
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"humble life" <humble.life@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:5gpgk3F3hrf64U2@mid.individual.net...
i think you're missing what's happened in asia and parts of china, who
have killed entire towns with exactly what you're talking about.
It's possible.
azure
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Everything looks permanent
until its secret is known.
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson
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