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Sociology > Depression |
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"No One" |
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07 Feb 2005 05:41:58 PM |
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Fighting with parents/family. |
I am a recent college graduate and have been unable to find work for the
past month and a half. I'm unsure if I want to move or commute a far
distance (50 miles). I really don't have the money to do either, but my
local job search (4 year degree in accounting) had not proved successful.
I really hate sending so many resumes out and not hearing anything back.
Anyway, I try to speak to my mother (who helps me out with $200 a month)
about it. Her, my brother, and the rest of my family are built on the notion
that working for $10 an hour is "good money" and I am the first college
graduate in the family. I have felt many times in the past that they do not
support me enough (emotionally) and they're not understanding that I view
college as important to be able to have a real career instead of being blue
collar and answering to people I do not respect.
It's a miracle I even finished college because although I had financial
support from my mom, my family is not one to support me in my endeavors.
They view college as "*****" and "too much money." I on the other hand
had a goal that I wanted to become a CPA. Now that i'm unemployed and
haven't found work it makes things worse. My mother wants me to take
anything while I continue to look, while I am completely disgusted with job
hopping, working for low pay, and working with the kinds of people i've had
to work with at my countless call center and low paying jobs. I feel it's
more important to find the "right position" immediately out of college,
especially since I am planning on taking the CPA exam in a few months.
I try to be a good person in life but it is very hard not to get into drag
out, beat down arguments. My mother is the type to tell me my degree is
worthless because I cannot find a job a month and a half after graduating.
It really stings.
I just flat out told her that I can't be around her or the family because if
I'm around them I cannot be what I want to be in life. I will end up being
happy at any position and accept struggling paycheck to paycheck. I told her
that she's never been in a position like me, being a college graduate and
searching for a real career should be something that makes the family proud.
Instead she talks to me about how my niece just got a job at Lowe's that
pays $10.73 an hour and how it's such a great job. I tell her that I'm very
happy for my niece (her parents would not help her pay for college, so she
didn't go) and wish her the best, but I have my own goals.
The whole situation makes me a very unhappy person.
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| User: "Gregg" |
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| Title: Re: Fighting with parents/family. |
08 Feb 2005 12:01:10 PM |
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"No One" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:jKmcndQf7KOfYJrfUSdV9g@ptd.net...
I am a recent college graduate and have been unable to find work for
the
past month and a half.
Hi,
I don't know if you've read this poem or not. I don't know if it's an
urban myth or not. I doesn'y matter either way 'cause I think it might
apply here.
I know it's hard, but if you just keep doing what you know is right, you
will succeed. I am writing this to you because you don't sound
clinically depressed to me, and I don't want to see you in here again in
10 years because you gave up and settled for less.
Good luck from me to you.
g
Anyway - From Mother Theresa
Mother Teresa hung a copy of this poem on a wall of the orphanage she
founded in Calcutta. Its source is unknown.
People are often unreasonable,
illogical and self-centered;
Forgive them anyway.
If you are kind,
People may accuse you
of selfish, ulterior motives;
Be Kind anyway.
If you are successful,
you will win some false friends and
some true enemies;
Succeed anyway. people may cheat you;
Be honest and frank anyway.
What you spend years building,
someone could destroy overnight;
Build anyway
If you find serenity and happiness,
they may be jealous;
Be happy anyway.
The good you do today,
people will often forget tomorrow;
Do good anyway.
Give the world the best you have,
and it may never be enough;
Give the world the best you've got anyway.
You see, in the final analysis.
it is between you and God;
It is never between you and them anyway.
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| User: "wombn" |
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| Title: Re: Fighting with parents/family. |
08 Feb 2005 02:13:39 PM |
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oh that's cool!
On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:01:10 GMT, "Gregg" <me@NoSpam.invalid> wrote:
"No One" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:jKmcndQf7KOfYJrfUSdV9g@ptd.net...
I am a recent college graduate and have been unable to find work for
the
past month and a half.
Hi,
I don't know if you've read this poem or not. I don't know if it's an
urban myth or not. I doesn'y matter either way 'cause I think it might
apply here.
I know it's hard, but if you just keep doing what you know is right, you
will succeed. I am writing this to you because you don't sound
clinically depressed to me, and I don't want to see you in here again in
10 years because you gave up and settled for less.
Good luck from me to you.
g
Anyway - From Mother Theresa
Mother Teresa hung a copy of this poem on a wall of the orphanage she
founded in Calcutta. Its source is unknown.
People are often unreasonable,
illogical and self-centered;
Forgive them anyway.
If you are kind,
People may accuse you
of selfish, ulterior motives;
Be Kind anyway.
If you are successful,
you will win some false friends and
some true enemies;
Succeed anyway. people may cheat you;
Be honest and frank anyway.
What you spend years building,
someone could destroy overnight;
Build anyway
If you find serenity and happiness,
they may be jealous;
Be happy anyway.
The good you do today,
people will often forget tomorrow;
Do good anyway.
Give the world the best you have,
and it may never be enough;
Give the world the best you've got anyway.
You see, in the final analysis.
it is between you and God;
It is never between you and them anyway.
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If laughter is the best medicine,
then kittens should be covered by our health insurance. :-)
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| User: "IncoWarren" |
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| Title: Re: Fighting with parents/family. |
07 Feb 2005 07:06:32 PM |
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I imagine your parents want the best for you but that's not
necessarily mean they are right. Individuals usually start the job
hunt 9 to 6 months before graduation because it takes time to find the
right job unless you are really lucky. Jobs in your profession are
many and chances are you will find it in a reasonable time as long as
you keep sending resumes and letters tailored to the specific
positions.
As per working doing anything wile you wait for the right job, I think
your parents are right as you don't know when the accounting position
will happen. I do think though that independence is important and, as
soon as you find ANY job, you should move out and have some degree of
independence so you can think and do your own stuff. As long as you
will live with your parents and receive help from them, you will, in
certain degree, be dependent in all aspects, not only monetary.
Just have patience, prepare many good resumes and cover letters, and
work at least part time in anything so you have some financial input
and some degree of independence.
The job hunt happens like this: no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, yes.
That last yes is the most important.
The best
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 18:41:58 -0500, "No One" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote:
I am a recent college graduate and have been unable to find work for the
past month and a half. I'm unsure if I want to move or commute a far
distance (50 miles). I really don't have the money to do either, but my
local job search (4 year degree in accounting) had not proved successful.
I really hate sending so many resumes out and not hearing anything back.
Anyway, I try to speak to my mother (who helps me out with $200 a month)
about it. Her, my brother, and the rest of my family are built on the notion
that working for $10 an hour is "good money" and I am the first college
graduate in the family. I have felt many times in the past that they do not
support me enough (emotionally) and they're not understanding that I view
college as important to be able to have a real career instead of being blue
collar and answering to people I do not respect.
It's a miracle I even finished college because although I had financial
support from my mom, my family is not one to support me in my endeavors.
They view college as "*****" and "too much money." I on the other hand
had a goal that I wanted to become a CPA. Now that i'm unemployed and
haven't found work it makes things worse. My mother wants me to take
anything while I continue to look, while I am completely disgusted with job
hopping, working for low pay, and working with the kinds of people i've had
to work with at my countless call center and low paying jobs. I feel it's
more important to find the "right position" immediately out of college,
especially since I am planning on taking the CPA exam in a few months.
I try to be a good person in life but it is very hard not to get into drag
out, beat down arguments. My mother is the type to tell me my degree is
worthless because I cannot find a job a month and a half after graduating.
It really stings.
I just flat out told her that I can't be around her or the family because if
I'm around them I cannot be what I want to be in life. I will end up being
happy at any position and accept struggling paycheck to paycheck. I told her
that she's never been in a position like me, being a college graduate and
searching for a real career should be something that makes the family proud.
Instead she talks to me about how my niece just got a job at Lowe's that
pays $10.73 an hour and how it's such a great job. I tell her that I'm very
happy for my niece (her parents would not help her pay for college, so she
didn't go) and wish her the best, but I have my own goals.
The whole situation makes me a very unhappy person.
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| User: "No One" |
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| Title: Re: Fighting with parents/family. |
07 Feb 2005 07:10:06 PM |
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Hi,
I do live on my own. I worked full-time, lived on my own, and went to
college full-time to complete my degree.
I began my search for a job 3 months before graduation, and nothing has come
up since, at least locally.
Thanks for your response, it's just a terrible time.
"IncoWarren" <lameNOvas@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eh3g01te315olp4hams4pgv1sv71m8j2nr@4ax.com...
I imagine your parents want the best for you but that's not
necessarily mean they are right. Individuals usually start the job
hunt 9 to 6 months before graduation because it takes time to find the
right job unless you are really lucky. Jobs in your profession are
many and chances are you will find it in a reasonable time as long as
you keep sending resumes and letters tailored to the specific
positions.
As per working doing anything wile you wait for the right job, I think
your parents are right as you don't know when the accounting position
will happen. I do think though that independence is important and, as
soon as you find ANY job, you should move out and have some degree of
independence so you can think and do your own stuff. As long as you
will live with your parents and receive help from them, you will, in
certain degree, be dependent in all aspects, not only monetary.
Just have patience, prepare many good resumes and cover letters, and
work at least part time in anything so you have some financial input
and some degree of independence.
The job hunt happens like this: no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, yes.
That last yes is the most important.
The best
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 18:41:58 -0500, "No One" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote:
I am a recent college graduate and have been unable to find work for the
past month and a half. I'm unsure if I want to move or commute a far
distance (50 miles). I really don't have the money to do either, but my
local job search (4 year degree in accounting) had not proved successful.
I really hate sending so many resumes out and not hearing anything back.
Anyway, I try to speak to my mother (who helps me out with $200 a month)
about it. Her, my brother, and the rest of my family are built on the
notion
that working for $10 an hour is "good money" and I am the first college
graduate in the family. I have felt many times in the past that they do
not
support me enough (emotionally) and they're not understanding that I view
college as important to be able to have a real career instead of being
blue
collar and answering to people I do not respect.
It's a miracle I even finished college because although I had financial
support from my mom, my family is not one to support me in my endeavors.
They view college as "*****" and "too much money." I on the other hand
had a goal that I wanted to become a CPA. Now that i'm unemployed and
haven't found work it makes things worse. My mother wants me to take
anything while I continue to look, while I am completely disgusted with
job
hopping, working for low pay, and working with the kinds of people i've
had
to work with at my countless call center and low paying jobs. I feel it's
more important to find the "right position" immediately out of college,
especially since I am planning on taking the CPA exam in a few months.
I try to be a good person in life but it is very hard not to get into
drag
out, beat down arguments. My mother is the type to tell me my degree is
worthless because I cannot find a job a month and a half after
graduating.
It really stings.
I just flat out told her that I can't be around her or the family because
if
I'm around them I cannot be what I want to be in life. I will end up
being
happy at any position and accept struggling paycheck to paycheck. I told
her
that she's never been in a position like me, being a college graduate and
searching for a real career should be something that makes the family
proud.
Instead she talks to me about how my niece just got a job at Lowe's that
pays $10.73 an hour and how it's such a great job. I tell her that I'm
very
happy for my niece (her parents would not help her pay for college, so
she
didn't go) and wish her the best, but I have my own goals.
The whole situation makes me a very unhappy person.
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| User: "wombn" |
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| Title: Re: Fighting with parents/family. |
07 Feb 2005 09:12:45 PM |
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Might consider taking whatever is available in a firm you hope to
build a career in. If you don't have much on your resume to show them
that you have what they need, then maybe getting your foot in the door
some other way is a good way to go.
Once you get your foot in the door, you can try looking for a
volunteer type position that you can then put on your resume (and make
sure someone in your company knows you're doing that).
That's what I did. I started as a secretary and ended up as a
database administrator, with no degree either.
There's more than one way to skin a cat, and refusing to accept
anything but perfection the first time around...
Be glad they're willing to house and feed you. If they died, you'd
HAVE to take whatever you could get.
Any work you do can be respectable work, if you do it well and
conscientiously.
It's a rare student who gets the job he wants first time out the
chute. You'd have to be a 4.0 in a prestigious school.
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If laughter is the best medicine,
then kittens should be covered by our health insurance. :-)
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| User: "No One" |
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| Title: Re: Fighting with parents/family. |
07 Feb 2005 09:36:47 PM |
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They don't house me or feed me.
I live on my own. I have for four years.
"wombn" <wombn@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:24bg01l4ndsidqmljm16ktq5ttul8ob69o@4ax.com...
Might consider taking whatever is available in a firm you hope to
build a career in. If you don't have much on your resume to show them
that you have what they need, then maybe getting your foot in the door
some other way is a good way to go.
Once you get your foot in the door, you can try looking for a
volunteer type position that you can then put on your resume (and make
sure someone in your company knows you're doing that).
That's what I did. I started as a secretary and ended up as a
database administrator, with no degree either.
There's more than one way to skin a cat, and refusing to accept
anything but perfection the first time around...
Be glad they're willing to house and feed you. If they died, you'd
HAVE to take whatever you could get.
Any work you do can be respectable work, if you do it well and
conscientiously.
It's a rare student who gets the job he wants first time out the
chute. You'd have to be a 4.0 in a prestigious school.
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If laughter is the best medicine,
then kittens should be covered by our health insurance. :-)
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| User: "wombn" |
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| Title: Re: Fighting with parents/family. |
08 Feb 2005 12:58:22 AM |
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On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 22:36:47 -0500, "No One" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote:
They don't house me or feed me.
I live on my own. I have for four years.
That's great! You're halfway there!
What do you think about taking a lower job in a company with
possibilities?
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If laughter is the best medicine,
then kittens should be covered by our health insurance. :-)
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| User: "Contrarian" |
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| Title: Re: Fighting with parents/family. |
16 Feb 2005 06:50:46 PM |
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wombn <wombn@comcast.net> wrote:
Might consider taking whatever is available in a firm you hope to
build a career in.
Sometimes this works, sometimes it doesn't. I have no idea
about how things are in the accounting field.
I'd like to reiterate my congratulations to the OP upon his
graduation, that the "last semester" issues did not defeat him.
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| User: "Velvet Elvis" |
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| Title: Re: Fighting with parents/family. |
08 Feb 2005 01:22:54 PM |
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No One wrote:
I am a recent college graduate and have been unable to find work for the
past month and a half. I'm unsure if I want to move or commute a far
distance (50 miles). I really don't have the money to do either, but my
local job search (4 year degree in accounting) had not proved successful.
That's not much longer than I commuted to go to class every day. If
it's a decent job and your car can handle the commute, I say go for it.
That extra time in the car gives you some extra time to wake up and
get your thoughts together before you get to work and provides extra
time to chill out on your way home.
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| User: "Janithor" |
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| Title: Re: Fighting with parents/family. |
07 Feb 2005 08:14:14 PM |
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x-no-archive: yes
No One wrote:
I am a recent college graduate and have been unable to find work for the
past month and a half. I'm unsure if I want to move or commute a far
distance (50 miles). I really don't have the money to do either, but my
local job search (4 year degree in accounting) had not proved successful.
I really hate sending so many resumes out and not hearing anything back.
Anyway, I try to speak to my mother (who helps me out with $200 a month)
about it. Her, my brother, and the rest of my family are built on the notion
that working for $10 an hour is "good money" and I am the first college
graduate in the family. I have felt many times in the past that they do not
support me enough (emotionally) and they're not understanding that I view
college as important to be able to have a real career instead of being blue
collar and answering to people I do not respect.
It's a miracle I even finished college because although I had financial
support from my mom, my family is not one to support me in my endeavors.
They view college as "*****" and "too much money." I on the other hand
had a goal that I wanted to become a CPA. Now that i'm unemployed and
haven't found work it makes things worse. My mother wants me to take
anything while I continue to look, while I am completely disgusted with job
hopping, working for low pay, and working with the kinds of people i've had
to work with at my countless call center and low paying jobs. I feel it's
more important to find the "right position" immediately out of college,
especially since I am planning on taking the CPA exam in a few months.
I try to be a good person in life but it is very hard not to get into drag
out, beat down arguments. My mother is the type to tell me my degree is
worthless because I cannot find a job a month and a half after graduating.
It really stings.
I just flat out told her that I can't be around her or the family because if
I'm around them I cannot be what I want to be in life. I will end up being
happy at any position and accept struggling paycheck to paycheck. I told her
that she's never been in a position like me, being a college graduate and
searching for a real career should be something that makes the family proud.
Instead she talks to me about how my niece just got a job at Lowe's that
pays $10.73 an hour and how it's such a great job. I tell her that I'm very
happy for my niece (her parents would not help her pay for college, so she
didn't go) and wish her the best, but I have my own goals.
The whole situation makes me a very unhappy person.
It's not the only reason you're a very unhappy person. There are other
factors.
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