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"alvintchase" |
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29 Oct 2004 09:55:19 AM |
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Finding more work... |
I hope at some point that I can find more paid work...I'm happy to be
doing more volunteer work,at the red cross and now for JFS,but I feel
a sense of guilt,or somethign like guilt for not having more paid
work.Not that there is anything wrong with volunteer work,I know
volunteer work is important.It's just that I feel guilt about
recieving a lot of financial support.Of course it's nice to not have
to pay rent or bills ect...but being 30 years old,it's also kind of
embaressing...And I feel sad that other people work so many hours,and
don't get a lot of financial support,as well...Does anyone else feel
guilt about being financially supported?If I could somehow get a job
doing telephone surveys again,that would be great.I had mixed feelings
about doing surveys,but overall it felt good to have more paid hours
of work.10 hours of paid work a week isn't enough for me.
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| User: "alvintchase" |
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| Title: Re: Finding more work... |
29 Oct 2004 05:11:01 PM |
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I'm not sure exactly Cyberdroog...Part of the problem could be my
handwriting,it's very sloppy...I've applied for many jobs,places like
bookstores,and other stores...but I never get a reply from them.I've
applied to Walgreens about 5 times,it would work out great because
it's literally right next to me,but for some reason they never get
back to me...
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| User: "alvintchase" |
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| Title: Re: Finding more work... |
30 Oct 2004 12:27:43 PM |
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Defending him?I didn't think I was doing that...I know it does no good
talking to him,but I always hope against hope that people can be
reasoned with...
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| User: "% surfs@uniserve" |
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| Title: Re: Finding more work... |
30 Oct 2004 12:50:20 PM |
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"alvintchase" <relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Defending him?I didn't think I was doing that...I know it does no good
talking to him,but I always hope against hope that people can be
reasoned with...
you're reasoning with a rock , no , with a rock you'd have a better chance
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| User: "alvintchase" |
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| Title: Re: Finding more work... |
30 Oct 2004 11:26:18 AM |
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Hopefully you'll learn Marty,someday,that we are all citizens of the
universe...It doesn't matter what your religion is,what country you
come from,what you look like,none of that matters...Bigotry is
ignorance...I don't think there's anything worng with being prejudiced
if you are working on it,trying to let go of your prejudices...What IS
wrong is holding onto them and not trying to get over them...
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| User: "% surfs@uniserve" |
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| Title: Re: Finding more work... |
30 Oct 2004 11:30:51 AM |
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"alvintchase" <relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Hopefully you'll learn Marty,someday,that we are all citizens of the
universe...It doesn't matter what your religion is,what country you
come from,what you look like,none of that matters...Bigotry is
ignorance...I don't think there's anything worng with being prejudiced
if you are working on it,trying to let go of your prejudices...What IS
wrong is holding onto them and not trying to get over them...
oh sure , you expected him to understand a thought this advanced
he has a two position brain switch , off and broke
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| User: "sortalilyagain" |
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| Title: Re: Finding more work... |
30 Oct 2004 12:13:26 PM |
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sheesh alvin! marty is a run of the mill asswhipe. a bigot creep with a
touch of autism. why do you keep defending him?
"alvintchase" <relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Hopefully you'll learn Marty,someday,that we are all citizens of the
| universe...It doesn't matter what your religion is,what country you
| come from,what you look like,none of that matters...Bigotry is
| ignorance...I don't think there's anything worng with being prejudiced
| if you are working on it,trying to let go of your prejudices...What IS
| wrong is holding onto them and not trying to get over them...
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Finding more work... |
30 Oct 2004 12:36:16 PM |
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On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:13:26 -0400, "sortalilyagain"
<still@here.net> wrote:
<(((*> marty is a run of the mill asswhipe.
This is Marty we're talking about here. Shouldn't that say he's a
"run of the millipede asswipe"?
Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
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| User: "sortalilyagain" |
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| Title: Re: Finding more work... |
30 Oct 2004 01:16:31 PM |
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lol! i like you
<waitingforgodot@samuel.beckett> wrote in message
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| On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:13:26 -0400, "sortalilyagain"
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| ><(((*> marty is a run of the mill asswhipe.
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| This is Marty we're talking about here. Shouldn't that say he's a
| "run of the millipede asswipe"?
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| Tara J. Ballance
| Montreal, Canada
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| User: "sortalilyagain" |
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| Title: Re: Finding more work... |
30 Oct 2004 12:13:11 PM |
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sheesh alvin! marty is a run of the mill asswhipe. a bigot creep with a
touch of autism. why do you keep defending him?
"alvintchase" <relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a78957eb.0410300826.1b94508f@posting.google.com...
| Hopefully you'll learn Marty,someday,that we are all citizens of the
| universe...It doesn't matter what your religion is,what country you
| come from,what you look like,none of that matters...Bigotry is
| ignorance...I don't think there's anything worng with being prejudiced
| if you are working on it,trying to let go of your prejudices...What IS
| wrong is holding onto them and not trying to get over them...
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| User: "alvintchase" |
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| Title: Re: Finding more work... |
30 Oct 2004 11:43:43 AM |
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I know he'll never get it now...but I hope someday that him and people
like him are able to change...I could be wrong,but I get the sense
that deep down(maybe VERY deep down)he doesn't really believe the
things that he sais,I think partly he just wants negative
attention,and partly he desperatly tries to convince himeself that the
Jews are to blame for the problems in his life...
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| User: "% surfs@uniserve" |
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30 Oct 2004 12:01:21 PM |
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"alvintchase" <relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a78957eb.0410300843.332a3094@posting.google.com...
I know he'll never get it now...but I hope someday that him and people
like him are able to change...I could be wrong,but I get the sense
that deep down(maybe VERY deep down)he doesn't really believe the
things that he sais,I think partly he just wants negative
attention,and partly he desperatly tries to convince himeself that the
Jews are to blame for the problems in his life...
nothing changes if nothing changes
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| User: "alvintchase" |
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| Title: Re: Finding more work... |
30 Oct 2004 10:57:13 AM |
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I see what your saying Naomi..Going hungry or not having a place to
live is definatly not something I'll ever have to worry about,and I'm
very thankful for that...It's just that It often makes me really sad
that many other people can't say the same thing,so many people have to
work so many hours to make ends meet...I guess all I can do is try to
contribute to the world in any ways possible,whether in volunteer work
or paid work...
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| User: "Naomi Darvell" |
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| Title: Re: Finding more work... |
30 Oct 2004 11:20:36 AM |
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x-no-archive: yes
Alvin, if you are actually financially secure for life, there are a lot of
things you can do for those less fortunate without pulling in a paycheck--
things that would be much more beneficial to them than your working 40 hours at
some random job.
Naomi D.
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| User: "alvintchase" |
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| Title: Re: Finding more work... |
30 Oct 2004 11:31:51 AM |
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Naomi,yep,I guess your right...I guess I just have that white,liberal
guilt,or whatever it's called...Yeah,that's what I want to focus
on,remembering that the key is to help people,not get too caught up in
the conventional,puritan "hard work" ethic that is very common in this
country...There are many ways to be helpful and make a differance....
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| User: "yellow river" |
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30 Oct 2004 11:49:31 AM |
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alvintchase wrote:
Naomi,yep,I guess your right...I guess I just have that white,liberal
guilt,or whatever it's called...
you mean *jewish* guilt. maybe you feel guilty for your people
profitting from the misery of gentiles... if it is possible for a jew to
feel guilt, which i doubt.
Yeah,that's what I want to focus
on,remembering that the key is to help people,not get too caught up in
the conventional,puritan "hard work" ethic that is very common in this
country...There are many ways to be helpful and make a differance....
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| User: "% surfs@uniserve" |
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| Title: Re: Finding more work... |
30 Oct 2004 12:02:34 PM |
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Marty is a jewish name
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| User: "alvintchase" |
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30 Oct 2004 01:07:48 PM |
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When Moses hit a rock,water came out of the rock,I wonder,if you hit
Marty,would yellow water would come out?...
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| User: "% surfs@uniserve" |
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30 Oct 2004 01:36:58 PM |
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Moses also listened to a Bush and was lost for 40 years ,
can you make the connection ?
"alvintchase" <relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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When Moses hit a rock,water came out of the rock,I wonder,if you hit
Marty,would yellow water would come out?...
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| User: "Laura" |
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30 Oct 2004 04:31:25 PM |
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On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 11:36:58 -0700, "%" <surfs@uniserve> wrote:
Moses also listened to a Bush and was lost for 40 years ,
can you make the connection ?
Actually, it was ignoring what the bush had to say that sent them
wandering lost for forty years (wink)
"alvintchase" <relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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When Moses hit a rock,water came out of the rock,I wonder,if you hit
Marty,would yellow water would come out?...
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| User: "alvintchase" |
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| Title: Re: Finding more work... |
30 Oct 2004 01:48:04 PM |
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Yep,I see the connection.I just hope that more then 50% of the
American public sees the connection on tuesday...
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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29 Oct 2004 11:14:38 AM |
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On 29 Oct 2004 07:55:19 -0700, (alvintchase) wrote:
I hope at some point that I can find more paid work...I'm happy to be
doing more volunteer work,at the red cross and now for JFS,but I feel
a sense of guilt,or somethign like guilt for not having more paid
work.Not that there is anything wrong with volunteer work,I know
volunteer work is important.It's just that I feel guilt about
recieving a lot of financial support.Of course it's nice to not have
to pay rent or bills ect...but being 30 years old,it's also kind of
embaressing...And I feel sad that other people work so many hours,and
don't get a lot of financial support,as well...Does anyone else feel
guilt about being financially supported?If I could somehow get a job
doing telephone surveys again,that would be great.I had mixed feelings
about doing surveys,but overall it felt good to have more paid hours
of work.10 hours of paid work a week isn't enough for me.
Why is it that you don't find paid work when you are obviously capable of
working? Is the economy that bad in your area?
Personally I'm thinking of finding a regular salaried position. It's nice
to almost always be able to make my own hours, but I'm getting a little
worn down emotionally. I often feel like I'm flying by the seat of my
pants.
--
BIGOT, n. One who is obstinately and zealously attached to an opinion
that you do not entertain.
- Ambrose Bierce
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| User: "solidac" |
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| Title: Re: Finding more work... |
29 Oct 2004 10:13:20 PM |
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"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
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On 29 Oct 2004 07:55:19 -0700, (alvintchase) wrote:
I hope at some point that I can find more paid work...I'm happy to be
doing more volunteer work,at the red cross and now for JFS,but I feel
a sense of guilt,or somethign like guilt for not having more paid
work.Not that there is anything wrong with volunteer work,I know
volunteer work is important.It's just that I feel guilt about
recieving a lot of financial support.Of course it's nice to not have
to pay rent or bills ect...but being 30 years old,it's also kind of
embaressing...And I feel sad that other people work so many hours,and
don't get a lot of financial support,as well...Does anyone else feel
guilt about being financially supported?If I could somehow get a job
doing telephone surveys again,that would be great.I had mixed feelings
about doing surveys,but overall it felt good to have more paid hours
of work.10 hours of paid work a week isn't enough for me.
Why is it that you don't find paid work when you are obviously capable of
working? Is the economy that bad in your area?
Personally I'm thinking of finding a regular salaried position. It's nice
to almost always be able to make my own hours, but I'm getting a little
worn down emotionally. I often feel like I'm flying by the seat of my
pants.
** you too huh. Small bizs can be such a stretch sometimes, not to mention
the stress, emotional strain etc.. Seemingly close to stitching up a
contract worth much more than could be earned from salary though and it
shouldn't involve too much stress either. But who's fooling who - it will.
Deadlines nearly always = stress
maybe a regular job is the way to go. Time will tell
--
BIGOT, n. One who is obstinately and zealously attached to an opinion
that you do not entertain.
- Ambrose Bierce
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| User: "Contrarian" |
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| Title: Re: Finding more work... |
30 Oct 2004 05:59:25 PM |
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solidac <waves@spam.bot> wrote:
"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
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On 29 Oct 2004 07:55:19 -0700, (alvintchase) wrote:
AC: hope at some point that I can find more paid work...I'm happy to
doing more volunteer work,at the red cross and now for JFS,but I feel
CD?Why is it that you don't find paid work when you are obviously
capable of working? Is the economy that bad in your area?
There isn't necessarily a job out there for ppl who haven't been
working a while. I know that I really don't feel up to many full
time jobs but the reallly low paying ones hire younger (<30) ppl
here AFAICS.
I'd like to make _some_ more money, any amount, but no luck so
far. I could pay Y dues, etc. be healthier.
maybe a regular job is the way to go. Time will tell
S:** you too huh. Small bizs can be such a stretch sometimes, not to
the stress, emotional strain etc.. Seemingly close to stitching up a
contract worth much more than could be earned from salary though and it
yup
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| User: "yellow river" |
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| Title: Re: Finding more work... |
30 Oct 2004 11:10:57 AM |
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alvintchase wrote:
I hope at some point that I can find more paid work...I'm happy to be
doing more volunteer work,at the red cross
why? that's a christian organization. you are jewish.
and now for JFS,
the "jewish family service"? they ran tv commercials recently begging
people to donate their cars to them. it will be a cold day in hell
before i donate as much as one cent to the jewish family service (or any
other jewish organization). of course, i don't mind if jews donate their
bmws and mercedeses to jfs.
- yellow river
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| User: "% surfs@uniserve" |
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| Title: Re: Finding more work... |
30 Oct 2004 11:11:10 AM |
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"yellow river" <huangmYR@earthYRlink.YRnet> wrote in message
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alvintchase wrote:
I hope at some point that I can find more paid work...I'm happy to be
doing more volunteer work,at the red cross
why? that's a christian organization. you are jewish.
and now for JFS,
the "jewish family service"? they ran tv commercials recently begging
people to donate their cars to them. it will be a cold day in hell
before i donate as much as one cent to the jewish family service (or any
other jewish organization). of course, i don't mind if jews donate their
bmws and mercedeses to jfs.
- yellow river
you must like jews or you would do something to change it
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| User: "Naomi Darvell" |
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| Title: Re: Finding more work... |
30 Oct 2004 10:36:12 AM |
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x-no-archive: yes
Alvin wrote inter alia:
Does anyone else feel
guilt about being financially supported?
I would not feel guilt about it. There's no special moral value in making money
for its own sake, and not everyone is lucky enough to have a vocation they
would still pursue if they won the lottery.
To be honest, though, I would feel scared. Over the past, say, 5 years, I have
watched friends and family members who thought they were financially secure
because of family money find out that they were not. It would scare the crap
out of me not to be at least contributing to a retirement fund of some kind.
Naomi D.
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