(BTW, if you go to that link, also check out the ghost tour photos under
visitor info / things to do. The last photo on the page was taken by
me, about 6 months before that massacre.)

On Jun 16, 4:33 am, mighty mouse <mousieNOSPAM9...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Spartacus wrote:

seeing the entire picture that's all... What's your take on this?

I'm totally against guns. They should be used only under controlled
conditions for hunting, farming, sports shooting and law
enforcement/military uses. Anything else is completely unnecessary.
The whole US "right" to have a gun is just *****, IMHO. No-one has
the right to put their own, their families, and the whole populations
lives at risk by owning a gun if they don't need it for one of the above
mentioned purposes (I don't care if I get flamed for that!)

Why would you be flamed? I asked for an honest opinion and you gave
it. I do appreciate you expressing what that is! I'm of the school
that people may agree to disagree, as long as it's not habit forming.
I look at it that you must know more about it than I do with first
hand experience and all! But answer me this: If these people that
can't be trusted with weapons should brake into your home and threaten
the lives of you and your family, would you be thinking the same way
as now?

If guns are heavily restricted, then there's no need to carry one for
protection, because there's less to need protection from.

How do you qualify this? People find other ways! Necessity is the
mother of invention; more-over, even illusions can look necessary:
"Oh! There's no more guns... I think I'll take to throwing people out
windows then..." I'd rather be shot thanks! Not that I'm offering an
option. I wish that people weren't generally just plain evil scum, but
they are! One man could slit a hundred thousand throats in one night
if he were quiet and fast enough. Don't give them any ideas! Sometimes
the solution can be worse than the problem...

Yes, people will still try to hurt and kill other people with whatever
weapons are available, but surely the risk is less if the weapons they
have are less dangerous and have to be used at close range.

I don't think so... People are inventive when it comes to killing one
another. There's only been world peace a total of 92 years in all of
human history! And the greedier the rich get, the more resorceful the
poor has to be! It's not that they 'want' to 'be' criminals. They're
born into the environment; a concreat jungle! There, even a piece of
glass is a weapon at close range or as a projectile.

Australia is the site of the world's worst lone gunman shooting rampage,
where 35 people died one horrible afternoon in 1996. I never want to
see that happen again.

That is sad! But then people die in car accidents every day. How many
people die from smoking in one afternoon? Much more extensive agony!
What if while you worry about gunmen, you slip on a banana peel and
break your neck? It seems to me that if you say people can't be
trusted, all the more reason we need some form of persuasive
protection... Or anybody could do just about whatever they want. I
long for the good old days when you died in bed with your boots on I
guess... Anyway, you make a strong case! I don't even like borders or
slaughtering chickens and such. I'm a decent hue bum bean! Soon, it
might not matter due to fall out...

http://www.portarthur.org.au/pashow.php?ACTION=Public&menu_code=400.300

(BTW, if you go to that link, also check out the ghost tour photos under
visitor info / things to do. The last photo on the page was taken by
me, about 6 months before that massacre.)- Hide quoted text -

Yes thank you! Is it for my boo boo? BTW, I admire indignance! I wish
it were a better world...

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I think it's really weird as a Canuk sitting back giggling over this
debate. Yet muy American side is troubled that there's so much fuss
over that Virginia massicre thingy and I think it was just something
fuled by the war like most things now; everyone so self righteous and
all about it... But I remember as a child, out in Saskatchewan
shooting goffers with 22 longs at 25 cents a tail! And hey! It often
made the difference whether I ate that day or not!

You could take every last gun out of The U.S. and then read reports
how students are slitting each others throats next week! You see, it
just wouldn't matter! There are lots of ways to kill yourself or
others that gun control has nothing to do with! There are also 50 ways
to leave your lover! Even if you screen for wackos, an under ground
movement will just see that as an opportunity to capitalize on it...
So, in my mind, it seems a silly argument. Weapons aren't "just"
weapons. They can also be tools. I just don't think officials are4
seeing the entire picture that's all... What's your take on this?