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"alvintchase" |
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12 Jul 2004 09:24:21 AM |
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Flags make me uncomfortable |
When I was in New Hampshire on Saturday to campaign,the town we went
to had a lot of flags and dogs.apparently it was a very patriotic
town.I know that not everyone feels the way I do,but I found the sight
of so many flags to be very
bland,monotonous,conformist,provincial,even oppressive...While I know
I'm lucky to live in the U.S. in many ways,I don't like the idea of
countries...The reality is that we are all citizens of Planet
Earth...If there has to be a flag displayed,I wish it would be a
"Planet Earth Flag"....I believe that all
countries,religions,orginazations ect...are abot seperation and
division.But Everyone and everything comes from the same source,In
reality,there is no division...
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| User: "Shotgun" |
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12 Jul 2004 02:50:22 PM |
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"alvintchase" <relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a78957eb.0407120624.1b9fc88b@posting.google.com...
When I was in New Hampshire on Saturday to campaign,the town we went
to had a lot of flags and dogs.apparently it was a very patriotic
town.I know that not everyone feels the way I do,but I found the sight
of so many flags to be very
bland,monotonous,conformist,provincial,even oppressive...While I know
I'm lucky to live in the U.S. in many ways,I don't like the idea of
countries...The reality is that we are all citizens of Planet
Earth...If there has to be a flag displayed,I wish it would be a
"Planet Earth Flag"....I believe that all
countries,religions,orginazations ect...are abot seperation and
division.But Everyone and everything comes from the same source,In
reality,there is no division...
Your not alone in your feelings. There just isn't an "us" anymore. We
don't even fight wars on our own behalf. Had December 7, 1941 occurred on
September 11, 2001, we'd now be engaged in a war called Operation Japanese
Freedom with the stated goal of liberting the innocent Japanese people from
their evil Emperor and Prime Minister.
These are the same reasons our borders are open, with tens of millions of
diseased, unskilled and even criminal illegal aliens in our presence. A
decade ago, we charged 10,000 employers with hiring illegals. Last year we
charged only a couple hundred.
Patriotism is out, and even Christmas Cards are now called Holiday
Cards.......just go to the store and find the appropriate section when the
season arrives.
There is no country anymore. A nation without borders and a common history
and culture isn't a nation at all.
Unfortunately, the rest of the world feels differently, and I fear that soon
we will go the way of the Balkans and Ancient Rome......death by
assimiliation.
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| User: "alvintchase" |
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| Title: Re: Flags make me uncomfortable |
12 Jul 2004 07:01:33 PM |
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(alvintchase) wrote in message news:<a78957eb.0407120624.1b9fc88b@posting.google.com>...
Maybe "Us" is all 6 Billion+ people on this Earth(as well as all
the animals,and everything else...)I think it would be wonderful if
everyone thought of it this way.It seems to me that wars and other
problems would end if we could include all people as being "us"....
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| User: "Shotgun" |
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12 Jul 2004 10:25:06 PM |
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"alvintchase" <relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a78957eb.0407121601.6df4646a@posting.google.com...
relayer211@hotmail.com (alvintchase) wrote in message
news:<a78957eb.0407120624.1b9fc88b@posting.google.com>...
Maybe "Us" is all 6 Billion+ people on this Earth(as well as all
the animals,and everything else...)I think it would be wonderful if
everyone thought of it this way.It seems to me that wars and other
problems would end if we could include all people as being "us"....
Yes, that would be nice. Unfortunately for us it is a unilateral idea.
Those of the world who oppose, and it seems lately to be the majority, have
quite a different attitude.
One either understands that the fabric of this country is unraveling, or he
doesn't. Ditto for the reasons it is happening. Our enemies in the past
should have simply waited. In time, it could have all been theirs without
firing a shot.
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| User: "Whateverafter" |
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12 Jul 2004 07:16:57 PM |
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Subject: Re: Flags make me uncomfortable
From: (alvintchase)
Date: 7/12/2004 6:01 PM Central America Standard Time
Message-id: <a78957eb.0407121601.6df4646a@posting.google.com>
(alvintchase) wrote in message
news:<a78957eb.0407120624.1b9fc88b@posting.google.com>...
Maybe "Us" is all 6 Billion+ people on this Earth(as well as all
the animals,and everything else...)I think it would be wonderful if
everyone thought of it this way.It seems to me that wars and other
problems would end if we could include all people as being "us"....
That's great, alvin! That's what Jesus was teaching when he told the story
of the good Samaritan. Also, the "us" thing, and the wars ending is exactly
what is going to happen when god gets rid of all "these kingdoms" and the
Kingdom that so many ppl have prayed for without even knowing it (in the Lord's
prayer), will be the government that rules the whole earth.
"And he will certainly render judgment among the nations and set matters
straight respecting many peoples. And they will have to beat their swords into
plowshares and their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword
against nation, neither will they learn war anymore." Isaiah 2:4
When I fill out any form that says, "What race are you", I fill in "Human".
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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12 Jul 2004 10:28:52 PM |
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On 13 Jul 2004 00:16:57 GMT, (Whateverafter) wrote:
That's great, alvin! That's what Jesus was teaching when he told the story
of the good Samaritan. Also, the "us" thing, and the wars ending is exactly
what is going to happen when god gets rid of all "these kingdoms" and the
Kingdom that so many ppl have prayed for without even knowing it (in the Lord's
prayer), will be the government that rules the whole earth.
"And he will certainly render judgment among the nations and set matters
straight respecting many peoples. And they will have to beat their swords into
plowshares and their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword
against nation, neither will they learn war anymore." Isaiah 2:4
That would wrap up all of the problems real quick. There would be a
single, omniscient judge sitting over the entire world. What a great court
system. You wouldn't even have to plea. He already knows the absolute
truth.
Of course he's going to wait a good long time while hundreds of millions
suffer before doing anything...
When I fill out any form that says, "What race are you", I fill in "Human".
I used to always check "Native American" on forms. Then they caught on and
did away with the term.
--
IMPIETY, n. Your irreverence toward my deity.
- Ambrose Bierce
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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13 Jul 2004 01:43:37 AM |
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In message <qil6f0hc374l8a84l1iboqd23ceogr17h8@4ax.com>, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> writes
On 13 Jul 2004 00:16:57 GMT, (Whateverafter) wrote:
That's great, alvin! That's what Jesus was teaching when he told the story
of the good Samaritan. Also, the "us" thing, and the wars ending is exactly
what is going to happen when god gets rid of all "these kingdoms" and the
Kingdom that so many ppl have prayed for without even knowing it (in
the Lord's
prayer), will be the government that rules the whole earth.
"And he will certainly render judgment among the nations and set matters
straight respecting many peoples. And they will have to beat their
swords into
plowshares and their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift
up sword
against nation, neither will they learn war anymore." Isaiah 2:4
That would wrap up all of the problems real quick. There would be a
single, omniscient judge sitting over the entire world. What a great court
system. You wouldn't even have to plea. He already knows the absolute
truth.
Of course he's going to wait a good long time while hundreds of millions
suffer before doing anything...
When I fill out any form that says, "What race are you", I fill in "Human".
I used to always check "Native American" on forms. Then they caught on and
did away with the term.
They've recently added 'Mixed race' to forms here. It's not what it's
intended for but the idea of a pure-bred Englishman is laughable. Maybe,
next time I see it...
(There are more mixed race than black Britons.)
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "Flashfire" |
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13 Jul 2004 02:06:11 AM |
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Alan Harding wrote:
They've recently added 'Mixed race' to forms here. It's not what it's
intended for but the idea of a pure-bred Englishman is laughable.
Maybe,
next time I see it...
(There are more mixed race than black Britons.)
We also have the designation Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander, which
annoys me. We are all Australian - how can we have a world community when
within each country there are separate races....world community, sorry Alvin
it will never happen.
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Regards Lee
Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of
enthusiasm. ~ Sir Winston Churchill
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| User: "%" |
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13 Jul 2004 02:08:24 AM |
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"Flashfire" <ramblinin@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:2lhfv6FcgitpU1@uni-berlin.de...
Alan Harding wrote:
They've recently added 'Mixed race' to forms here. It's not what it's
intended for but the idea of a pure-bred Englishman is laughable.
Maybe,
next time I see it...
(There are more mixed race than black Britons.)
We also have the designation Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander, which
annoys me. We are all Australian - how can we have a world community when
within each country there are separate races....world community, sorry
Alvin
it will never happen.
--
Regards Lee
Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of
enthusiasm. ~ Sir Winston Churchill
do you wear your false teeth when you type ?
i'm just wondering , what's the lisp ?
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| User: "Flashfire" |
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13 Jul 2004 02:32:32 AM |
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% wrote:
"Flashfire" <ramblinin@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:2lhfv6FcgitpU1@uni-berlin.de...
Alan Harding wrote:
They've recently added 'Mixed race' to forms here. It's not what
it's intended for but the idea of a pure-bred Englishman is
laughable. Maybe,
next time I see it...
(There are more mixed race than black Britons.)
We also have the designation Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander,
which annoys me. We are all Australian - how can we have a world
community when within each country there are separate races....world
community, sorry Alvin it will never happen.
--
Regards Lee
Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of
enthusiasm. ~ Sir Winston Churchill
do you wear your false teeth when you type ?
i'm just wondering , what's the lisp ?
How did you crawl out of my killfile? Back you go.....
--
Regards Lee
Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of
enthusiasm. ~ Sir Winston Churchill
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| User: "%" |
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13 Jul 2004 02:38:53 AM |
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"Flashfire" <ramblinin@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:2lhhgjFcs17gU1@uni-berlin.de...
% wrote:
"Flashfire" <ramblinin@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:2lhfv6FcgitpU1@uni-berlin.de...
Alan Harding wrote:
They've recently added 'Mixed race' to forms here. It's not what
it's intended for but the idea of a pure-bred Englishman is
laughable. Maybe,
next time I see it...
(There are more mixed race than black Britons.)
We also have the designation Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander,
which annoys me. We are all Australian - how can we have a world
community when within each country there are separate races....world
community, sorry Alvin it will never happen.
--
Regards Lee
Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of
enthusiasm. ~ Sir Winston Churchill
do you wear your false teeth when you type ?
i'm just wondering , what's the lisp ?
How did you crawl out of my killfile? Back you go.....
--
Regards Lee
Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of
enthusiasm. ~ Sir Winston Churchill
i do what i want , and you sit back and watch ,
remember , i'm a man , the one's that rule the ball you're on
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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12 Jul 2004 10:25:45 PM |
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On 12 Jul 2004 17:01:33 -0700, (alvintchase) wrote:
(alvintchase) wrote in message news:<a78957eb.0407120624.1b9fc88b@posting.google.com>...
Maybe "Us" is all 6 Billion+ people on this Earth(as well as all
the animals,and everything else...)I think it would be wonderful if
everyone thought of it this way.It seems to me that wars and other
problems would end if we could include all people as being "us"....
It doesn't hurt to dream. But in this case it doesn't help either. Until
we find some extraterrestrials to hate, it is unlikely that everyone on
earth will every be on the same page.
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My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling but it Wobbles, and the
letters get in the wrong places.
- A. A. Milne (1882-1958)
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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13 Jul 2004 01:45:31 AM |
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In message <ufl6f0532qcmknq5hmqbn3q4mddbsrc78q@4ax.com>, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> writes
On 12 Jul 2004 17:01:33 -0700, (alvintchase) wrote:
(alvintchase) wrote in message
news:<a78957eb.0407120624.1b9fc88b@posting.google.com>...
Maybe "Us" is all 6 Billion+ people on this Earth(as well as all
the animals,and everything else...)I think it would be wonderful if
everyone thought of it this way.It seems to me that wars and other
problems would end if we could include all people as being "us"....
It doesn't hurt to dream. But in this case it doesn't help either. Until
we find some extraterrestrials to hate, it is unlikely that everyone on
earth will every be on the same page.
But we extraterrestrials are so cuddly! How could anyone hurt someone
with so many ears?
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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13 Jul 2004 12:16:09 PM |
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 07:45:31 +0100, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
In message <ufl6f0532qcmknq5hmqbn3q4mddbsrc78q@4ax.com>, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> writes
On 12 Jul 2004 17:01:33 -0700, (alvintchase) wrote:
(alvintchase) wrote in message
news:<a78957eb.0407120624.1b9fc88b@posting.google.com>...
Maybe "Us" is all 6 Billion+ people on this Earth(as well as all
the animals,and everything else...)I think it would be wonderful if
everyone thought of it this way.It seems to me that wars and other
problems would end if we could include all people as being "us"....
It doesn't hurt to dream. But in this case it doesn't help either. Until
we find some extraterrestrials to hate, it is unlikely that everyone on
earth will every be on the same page.
But we extraterrestrials are so cuddly! How could anyone hurt someone
with so many ears?
It's probably because of that molecular acid spitting when you get upset.
--
SELFISH, adj. Devoid of consideration for the selfishness of others.
- Ambrose Bierce
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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13 Jul 2004 01:40:37 AM |
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In message <a78957eb.0407120624.1b9fc88b@posting.google.com>,
alvintchase <relayer211@hotmail.com> writes
When I was in New Hampshire on Saturday to campaign,the town we went
to had a lot of flags and dogs.apparently it was a very patriotic
town.I know that not everyone feels the way I do,but I found the sight
of so many flags to be very
bland,monotonous,conformist,provincial,even oppressive...While I know
I'm lucky to live in the U.S. in many ways,I don't like the idea of
countries...The reality is that we are all citizens of Planet
Earth...If there has to be a flag displayed,I wish it would be a
"Planet Earth Flag"....I believe that all
countries,religions,orginazations ect...are abot seperation and
division.But Everyone and everything comes from the same source,In
reality,there is no division...
Are you allowed to fly the UN flag over there? Even the Vatican's
joining.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "Janithor" |
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13 Jul 2004 03:39:11 AM |
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x-no-archive: yes
Alan Harding wrote:
In message <a78957eb.0407120624.1b9fc88b@posting.google.com>,
alvintchase <relayer211@hotmail.com> writes
When I was in New Hampshire on Saturday to campaign,the town we went
to had a lot of flags and dogs.apparently it was a very patriotic
town.I know that not everyone feels the way I do,but I found the sight
of so many flags to be very
bland,monotonous,conformist,provincial,even oppressive...While I know
I'm lucky to live in the U.S. in many ways,I don't like the idea of
countries...The reality is that we are all citizens of Planet
Earth...If there has to be a flag displayed,I wish it would be a
"Planet Earth Flag"....I believe that all
countries,religions,orginazations ect...are abot seperation and
division.But Everyone and everything comes from the same source,In
reality,there is no division...
Are you allowed to fly the UN flag over there? Even the Vatican's joining.
http://www.un.org/Pubs/CyberSchoolBus/untour/subunh.htm
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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12 Jul 2004 10:23:06 PM |
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On 12 Jul 2004 07:24:21 -0700, (alvintchase) wrote:
When I was in New Hampshire on Saturday to campaign,the town we went
to had a lot of flags and dogs.apparently it was a very patriotic
town.I know that not everyone feels the way I do,but I found the sight
of so many flags to be very
bland,monotonous,conformist,provincial,even oppressive...While I know
I'm lucky to live in the U.S. in many ways,I don't like the idea of
countries...The reality is that we are all citizens of Planet
Earth...If there has to be a flag displayed,I wish it would be a
"Planet Earth Flag"....I believe that all
countries,religions,orginazations ect...are abot seperation and
division.But Everyone and everything comes from the same source,In
reality,there is no division...
In reality there are a lot of divisions. It's real heart warming to speak
of the united brotherhood of mankind. But the fact is that people believe
very different things, and all too often those things are mutually
exclusive.
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LANGUAGE, n. The music with which we charm the serpents guarding
another's treasure.
- Ambrose Bierce
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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13 Jul 2004 01:51:07 AM |
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In message <l9l6f0lqg0e3amprar3u39eq7d4jrdo1dn@4ax.com>, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> writes
On 12 Jul 2004 07:24:21 -0700, (alvintchase) wrote:
When I was in New Hampshire on Saturday to campaign,the town we went
to had a lot of flags and dogs.apparently it was a very patriotic
town.I know that not everyone feels the way I do,but I found the sight
of so many flags to be very
bland,monotonous,conformist,provincial,even oppressive...While I know
I'm lucky to live in the U.S. in many ways,I don't like the idea of
countries...The reality is that we are all citizens of Planet
Earth...If there has to be a flag displayed,I wish it would be a
"Planet Earth Flag"....I believe that all
countries,religions,orginazations ect...are abot seperation and
division.But Everyone and everything comes from the same source,In
reality,there is no division...
In reality there are a lot of divisions. It's real heart warming to speak
of the united brotherhood of mankind. But the fact is that people believe
very different things, and all too often those things are mutually
exclusive.
People within a country believe different things too, of course,
sometimes quite violently. There are things we all have in common, and
things each of us share with no one. Countries come somewhere in
between. How big a deal each person makes of theirs is another personal
thing. I suppose it's a matter of where you draw the imaginary lines.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "Flashfire" |
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12 Jul 2004 08:03:51 PM |
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alvintchase wrote:
When I was in New Hampshire on Saturday to campaign,the town we went
to had a lot of flags and dogs.apparently it was a very patriotic
town.I know that not everyone feels the way I do,but I found the sight
of so many flags to be very
bland,monotonous,conformist,provincial,even oppressive...While I know
I'm lucky to live in the U.S. in many ways,I don't like the idea of
countries...The reality is that we are all citizens of Planet
Earth...If there has to be a flag displayed,I wish it would be a
"Planet Earth Flag"....I believe that all
countries,religions,orginazations ect...are abot seperation and
division.But Everyone and everything comes from the same source,In
reality,there is no division...
Thats a nice ideological thought, but personally I like the division, I like
my country, my flag, my anthem, our history and our stuggle to become who we
are. I like everything that makes my country different from every other
country in the world. I like our diversity and I like our isolation, now if
only we could stop the rest of the world immigrating here I would be
supremly happy.
--
Regards Lee
Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of
enthusiasm. ~ Sir Winston Churchill
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| User: "Shotgun" |
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13 Jul 2004 03:06:41 PM |
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"Flashfire" <ramblinin@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:2lgqnrFcinljU1@uni-berlin.de...
alvintchase wrote:
When I was in New Hampshire on Saturday to campaign,the town we went
to had a lot of flags and dogs.apparently it was a very patriotic
town.I know that not everyone feels the way I do,but I found the sight
of so many flags to be very
bland,monotonous,conformist,provincial,even oppressive...While I know
I'm lucky to live in the U.S. in many ways,I don't like the idea of
countries...The reality is that we are all citizens of Planet
Earth...If there has to be a flag displayed,I wish it would be a
"Planet Earth Flag"....I believe that all
countries,religions,orginazations ect...are abot seperation and
division.But Everyone and everything comes from the same source,In
reality,there is no division...
Thats a nice ideological thought, but personally I like the division, I
like
my country, my flag, my anthem, our history and our stuggle to become who
we
are. I like everything that makes my country different from every other
country in the world. I like our diversity and I like our isolation, now
if
only we could stop the rest of the world immigrating here I would be
supremly happy.
--
Regards Lee
Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of
enthusiasm. ~ Sir Winston Churchill
I'm no longer a patriot, Lee. But I do understand that unless we can
distinguish ourselves from the rest of the world, we will begin to view
foreign rights as equal to our own interests and security.
That leads to an inability to resolve inevitable conflict in our favor. In
time, we will cease to exist as an independent nation.
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| User: "Flashfire" |
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13 Jul 2004 07:29:32 PM |
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Shotgun wrote:
I'm no longer a patriot, Lee. But I do understand that unless we can
distinguish ourselves from the rest of the world,
I still am a patriot, if needs be I would die for my country, but only if
she was invaded by an aggressor...I do not think we should be ranging the
world looking for fights....I think that our presense is warranted in Iraq
only because the attack on the world trade centre was an attack on the
world, not just America. Australians died in the wtc as did many people from
other nations. I know there are people that are going to jump up and down
and carry on that the invasion of Iraq had nothing to do with the wtc, so
before you do, let me make myself clear. America is our ally, Britain is our
ally, they requested our help and support, we would be poor allies if we
said no we dont want to be there...I would like to see the soldiers come
home and soon, but then I would also like to see the American, British and
the soldiers of every other nation who are there to go home.
we will begin to
view foreign rights as equal to our own interests and security.
I think we already do see foreign rights as equal to our own interests and
security, in fact I think in some case we see foreign rights as more
important to our own interests and security. And until we have a WTC on
Australian soil, our pollies will continue to run around with thier heads up
thier arses, giving ground to every foreign power to the detriment of
Australia and Australians.
That leads to an inability to resolve inevitable conflict in our
favor. In time, we will cease to exist as an independent nation.
My fears as well, I don't want to see Australia lose her unique identity.
--
Regards Lee
Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of
enthusiasm. ~ Sir Winston Churchill
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| User: "wombn" |
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14 Jul 2004 02:26:30 AM |
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:29:32 +1000, "Flashfire"
<ramblinin@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
only because the attack on the world trade centre was an attack on the
world, not just America. Australians died in the wtc as did many people from
other nations. I know there are people that are going to jump up and down
and carry on that the invasion of Iraq had nothing to do with the wtc, so
before you do, let me make myself clear. America is our ally, Britain is our
ally, they requested our help and support, we would be poor allies if we
said no we dont want to be there..
I, for one, very much appreciate it.
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12 Jul 2004 10:30:05 PM |
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:03:51 +1000, "Flashfire" <ramblinin@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:
Thats a nice ideological thought, but personally I like the division, I like
my country, my flag, my anthem, our history and our stuggle to become who we
are. I like everything that makes my country different from every other
country in the world. I like our diversity and I like our isolation, now if
only we could stop the rest of the world immigrating here I would be
supremly happy.
What kind of nutball would immigrate to a country with the 14 deadliest
snakes on earth, and the deadliest spiders also?
I'd like to see Australia sometime. But I'm going to wear Kevlar long
johns when I do.
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| User: "Flashfire" |
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| Title: Re: Flags make me uncomfortable |
12 Jul 2004 11:08:58 PM |
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CyberDroog wrote:
What kind of nutball would immigrate to a country with the 14
deadliest snakes on earth, and the deadliest spiders also?
Plenty of them want to come and live here, they hear about the land of
opportunity and golden beaches, invade the place and try to turn it into
thier own little version of where ever the hell they came from.- as far as
our spiders and snakes are concerned, it makes no difference, unfortunately
the critters don't kill enough of the immigrants to stop the tide. And don't
forget our sharks, we had a surfer killed by a white pointer last week, so
now the big brave hunters are going out to catch it and kill it. Poor thing
only doing what is natural. And for that it dies and yet if some numbnut
human had of killed the surfer all the do gooders would be jumping up and
down to save his/her life.....personally I hope the shark evades the
hunters, trouble is they will kill every shark in a 100 kilometre radius
just to make themselves feel good.
I'd like to see Australia sometime. But I'm going to wear Kevlar long
johns when I do.
Hey what? You think our spiders and snakes are so dumb that they cannot
squeeze up a pants leg....ha your kevlar is only good if our bushmen are
shooting at you.
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| User: "wombn" |
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| Title: Re: Flags make me uncomfortable |
13 Jul 2004 01:45:29 AM |
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 14:08:58 +1000, "Flashfire"
<ramblinin@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
CyberDroog wrote:
What kind of nutball would immigrate to a country with the 14
deadliest snakes on earth, and the deadliest spiders also?
Plenty of them want to come and live here, they hear about the land of
opportunity and golden beaches, invade the place and try to turn it into
thier own little version of where ever the hell they came from.- as far as
wow, that sounds familiar... <ducks a swat from pc police>
our spiders and snakes are concerned, it makes no difference, unfortunately
the critters don't kill enough of the immigrants to stop the tide. And don't
forget our sharks, we had a surfer killed by a white pointer last week, so
hm. Haven't heard of that one. I know some of your coast is
patrolled by great whites. Would that be the same thing?
now the big brave hunters are going out to catch it and kill it. Poor thing
And not necessarily the one who did the damage either.
only doing what is natural. And for that it dies and yet if some numbnut
human had of killed the surfer all the do gooders would be jumping up and
down to save his/her life.....personally I hope the shark evades the
hunters, trouble is they will kill every shark in a 100 kilometre radius
ah.
just to make themselves feel good.
I'd like to see Australia sometime. But I'm going to wear Kevlar long
johns when I do.
Hey what? You think our spiders and snakes are so dumb that they cannot
squeeze up a pants leg....ha your kevlar is only good if our bushmen are
shooting at you.
hee. He's gonna have nightmares now.
bad girl.
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| User: "Flashfire" |
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| Title: Re: Flags make me uncomfortable |
13 Jul 2004 02:03:16 AM |
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wombn wrote:
our spiders and snakes are concerned, it makes no difference,
unfortunately the critters don't kill enough of the immigrants to
stop the tide. And don't forget our sharks, we had a surfer killed
by a white pointer last week, so
hm. Haven't heard of that one. I know some of your coast is
patrolled by great whites. Would that be the same thing?
Same thing, white pointer or great white or their full title Great White
Pointer Shark, prehistoric killing machine, and up to three quarters of our
total coastline is great white territory.
http://www.faunanet.gov.au/wos/factfile.cfm?Fact_ID=393
Hey what? You think our spiders and snakes are so dumb that they
cannot squeeze up a pants leg....ha your kevlar is only good if our
bushmen are shooting at you.
hee. He's gonna have nightmares now.
Awwwww sowwy, but does he also know about the man-eating crocodiles,
scorpions, stone fish, box jelly fish, portugese man'o'wars and the numerous
other deadlies that lurk here.
bad girl.
Heeheeheehee
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| User: "wombn" |
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| Title: Re: Flags make me uncomfortable |
13 Jul 2004 03:04:33 PM |
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 17:03:16 +1000, "Flashfire"
<ramblinin@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
wombn wrote:
our spiders and snakes are concerned, it makes no difference,
unfortunately the critters don't kill enough of the immigrants to
stop the tide. And don't forget our sharks, we had a surfer killed
by a white pointer last week, so
hm. Haven't heard of that one. I know some of your coast is
patrolled by great whites. Would that be the same thing?
Same thing, white pointer or great white or their full title Great White
Pointer Shark, prehistoric killing machine, and up to three quarters of our
total coastline is great white territory.
http://www.faunanet.gov.au/wos/factfile.cfm?Fact_ID=393
cool
Hey what? You think our spiders and snakes are so dumb that they
cannot squeeze up a pants leg....ha your kevlar is only good if our
bushmen are shooting at you.
hee. He's gonna have nightmares now.
Awwwww sowwy, but does he also know about the man-eating crocodiles,
scorpions, stone fish, box jelly fish, portugese man'o'wars and the numerous
other deadlies that lurk here.
well if he ever watches the Crocodile Hunter, he'd know about them.
bad girl.
Heeheeheehee
BUT. Australia's spiders are not quite the toughest. China's are.
Thor found an article last night about how a snake got caught in a
spider's web.
(I can't find the article now though)
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| User: "Flashfire" |
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| Title: Re: Flags make me uncomfortable |
13 Jul 2004 07:16:26 PM |
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wombn wrote:
BUT. Australia's spiders are not quite the toughest. China's are.
Thor found an article last night about how a snake got caught in a
spider's web.
(I can't find the article now though)
No, but we do have some of the deadliest species....
http://www.termite.com/spider-identification.html
and a few really big ones, like bird eating spiders
http://www.tenforward.com.au/spiders/facts.html
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| User: "wombn" |
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| Title: Re: Flags make me uncomfortable |
14 Jul 2004 02:25:04 AM |
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:16:26 +1000, "Flashfire"
<ramblinin@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
wombn wrote:
BUT. Australia's spiders are not quite the toughest. China's are.
Thor found an article last night about how a snake got caught in a
spider's web.
(I can't find the article now though)
No, but we do have some of the deadliest species....
http://www.termite.com/spider-identification.html
and a few really big ones, like bird eating spiders
http://www.tenforward.com.au/spiders/facts.html
Thor'd better not go look at that page! When we went up to Mt Diablo
(a couple of hours from here) we inadvertently arrived during
tarantula season. He was not a happy camper. :-)
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| User: "Flashfire" |
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| Title: Re: Flags make me uncomfortable |
14 Jul 2004 02:57:16 AM |
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wombn wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:16:26 +1000, "Flashfire"
<ramblinin@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
wombn wrote:
BUT. Australia's spiders are not quite the toughest. China's are.
Thor found an article last night about how a snake got caught in a
spider's web.
(I can't find the article now though)
No, but we do have some of the deadliest species....
http://www.termite.com/spider-identification.html
and a few really big ones, like bird eating spiders
http://www.tenforward.com.au/spiders/facts.html
Thor'd better not go look at that page! When we went up to Mt Diablo
(a couple of hours from here) we inadvertently arrived during
tarantula season. He was not a happy camper. :-)
I am not overly fond of the little blighters myself and I could relate many
a tale of me and spiders, most of them me being terrified in some regard...I
am an arachnephobic of the first order. In fact its only been in recent
years that I could bear to look at a picture of a spider...funnily enough I
did read something on psychological symbolism once and it said something to
the effect that the spider represents mothers and people who are
arachnaphobic have a deep seated fear or hatred of mother, I really dont
know if that is true or not, but funnily enough my arachnephobia started to
lessen, once I had confronted my mother and laid it on the line with her.
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| User: "wombn" |
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| Title: Re: Flags make me uncomfortable |
14 Jul 2004 03:05:51 PM |
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 17:57:16 +1000, "Flashfire"
<ramblinin@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
Thor'd better not go look at that page! When we went up to Mt Diablo
(a couple of hours from here) we inadvertently arrived during
tarantula season. He was not a happy camper. :-)
I am not overly fond of the little blighters myself and I could relate many
a tale of me and spiders, most of them me being terrified in some regard...I
am an arachnephobic of the first order. In fact its only been in recent
years that I could bear to look at a picture of a spider...funnily enough I
did read something on psychological symbolism once and it said something to
the effect that the spider represents mothers and people who are
arachnaphobic have a deep seated fear or hatred of mother, I really dont
know if that is true or not, but funnily enough my arachnephobia started to
lessen, once I had confronted my mother and laid it on the line with her.
Our brains are amazingly complex.
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