On Feb 1, 5:22 pm, "%" <pers...@gmail.com> wrote:

Andre Lieven wrote:

On Feb 1, 4:43 pm, "%" <pers...@gmail.com> wrote:

amy wrote:

On Jan 26, 10:13 pm, PolishKnight <mar...@cox.net> wrote:

In article
<d18f71f3-34e9-4f23-9825-02b31ffde...@d70g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,

amy <amylemo...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Jan 25, 8:42 pm, "Society" <Soci...@feminism.is.invalid> wrote:

Phil as "Somajunky" <noth...@hotmail.com> wrote in
messagenews:4799ca78$0$7756$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com...

amy, who's feeling especially questionable, wondered...

I have a question. Why do guys assume I'mflirting
when I talk to my best guy friend?

Well Amy that is probably because nearly EVERY guy
has been sweet on a female 'friend' that he hoped
would develop into something more. :)

Or, even more probably, those guys "assume" nothing;
amy is flirting.

--
A "nice guy" is to women what the virginal *****
is to men -- fantasy.

"Sexual Harassment and the Reasonable Man Standard"
by Rod van Mechelen
http://www.vanmechelen.net/microsoft/rman.html

Ok....but I'm notflirting...i'm tallking...like i talk to everyone
else.....it's just the way i am.....i call everyone hun....i hug
all my friends.....nothin.....it's just stupid b/c my exes are
always like why do you always have to flirt? i dont know how
i'mflirting!!!!!!!

Amy, with all due respect, when a woman writes "i" in the lower
case a lot it's a huge "tell." We don't need a webcam to see you
blushing!

Flirtingis all about engaging in behavior that, if called out, one
can go into plausable denial and say: "I was just being FRIENDLY!
YOU must have made it out to be something more!"

Amy, the answer to your original question is that you already knew
it all along. You ain't fooling anyone other than yourself. Just
because you don't have a strong interest in following through on
the flirts with your best friend, that doesn't mean you aren't
doing so.

It's interesting that in our culture,flirtingby men is strongly
discouraged. Men can be fired for "sexual harassment" simply for
engaging in behavior that MIGHT be interpreted as unwanted
flirtation. Women are quick to recognize or suspectflirtingby their
men and put a stop to it.

It's all fun and games, until somebody gets hurt.

I have known a few male flirts. One in particular is a good looking
guy who would flirt with the gate clerks at the airport and get
business class upgrades. Another got free meals, er, at airports
and on planes (sheesh, these guys sure do love to fly! :-)

Good looking people love to "flirt" because it's "fun" for them to
get special treatment and attention and they maybe use this
rationalization to justify the deception and manipulation of
others.

regards,
PolishKnight- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Wow, so you think I flirt? I don't get it, I don't mean to. Maybe I
do, but I just realize it. However, I don't manipulate people I
don't like your implying that I do.

i flirt like crazy but after all i'm gorgeous ,
so i can get away with it

Thats nice. You do understand that your future is a long slow slide
into non gorgeousness, while new and young(er) hotties are entering
the field every day ?

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NGE0YzE5OWI4NWVlYWZjMDMzZTRj...
jMGFmZjM=

Wednesday, October 03, 2007

Great Moments in Golddiggery [Jonah Goldberg]

A friend working on Wall Street forwarded an alleged New York
Craigslist posting. I thought it might be too good to be true. I
reluctantly googled it and found that it was on Craigslist but has
been removed. It sounds like it still might be a hoax of some kind.
Here's an similar San Francisco post. Still, with all relevant
caveats, here it is:

What am I doing wrong?

Okay, I'm tired of beating around the bush. I'm a beautiful
(spectacularly beautiful) 25 year old girl. I'm articulate and classy.
I'm not from New York. I'm looking to get married to a guy who makes
at least half a million a year. I know how that sounds, but keep in
mind
that a million a year is middle class in New York City, so I don't
think
I'm overreaching at all.

Are there any guys who make 500K or more on this board? Any wives?
Could you send me some tips? I dated a business man who makes
average around 200 - 250. But that's where I seem to hit a roadblock.
250,000 won't get me to central park west. I know a woman in my yoga
class who was married to an investment banker and lives in Tribeca,
and she's not as pretty as I am, nor is she a great genius. So what
is
she doing right? How do I get to her level?

Here are my questions specifically:

- Where do you single rich men hang out? Give me specifics- bars,
restaurants, gyms

-What are you looking for in a mate? Be honest guys, you won't hurt
my feelings

-Is there an age range I should be targeting (I'm 25)?

- Why are some of the women living lavish lifestyles on the upper
east side so plain? I've seen really 'plain jane' boring types who
have nothing to offer married to incredibly wealthy guys. I've seen
drop dead gorgeous girls in singles bars in the east village.
What's the story there?

- Jobs I should look out for? Everyone knows - lawyer, investment
banker, doctor. How much do those guys really make? And where
do they hang out? Where do the hedge fund guys hang out?

- How you decide marriage vs. just a girlfriend? I am looking for
MARRIAGE ONLY

Please hold your insults - I'm putting myself out there in an honest
way. Most beautiful women are superficial; at least I'm being up front
about it. I wouldn't be searching for these kind of guys if I wasn't
able to match them - in looks, culture, sophistication, and keeping
a nice home and hearth.

it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial
interests

And here is the alleged response from one poster, according to the
email:

I read your posting with great interest and have thought meaningfully
about your dilemma. I offer the following analysis of your
predicament.
Firstly, I'm not wasting your time, I qualify as a guy who fits your
bill; that is I make more than $500K per year. That said here's how I
see it.

Your offer, from the prospective of a guy like me, is plain and simple
a
crappy business deal. Here's why. Cutting through all the B.S., what
you
suggest is a simple trade: you bring your looks to the party and I
bring
my money. Fine, simple. But here's the rub, your looks will fade and
my
money will likely continue into perpetuity...in fact, it is very
likely
that my income increases but it is an absolute certainty that you
won't
be getting any more beautiful!

So, in economic terms you are a depreciating asset and I am an earning
asset. Not only are you a depreciating asset, your depreciation
accelerates! Let me explain, you're 25 now and will likely stay pretty
hot for the next 5 years, but less so each year. Then the fade begins
in
earnest. By 35 stick a fork in you!

So in Wall Street terms, we would call you a trading position, not a
buy
and hold...hence the rub...marriage. It doesn't make good business
sense
to "buy you" (which is what you're asking) so I'd rather lease. In
case
you think I'm being cruel, I would say the following. If my money were
to go away, so would you, so when your beauty fades I need an out.
It's
as simple as that. So a deal that makes sense is dating, not marriage.

Separately, I was taught early in my career about efficient markets.
So,
I wonder why a girl as "articulate, classy and spectacularly
beautiful"
as you has been unable to find your sugar daddy. I find it hard to
believe that if you are as gorgeous as you say you are that the $500K
hasn't found you, if not only for a tryout.

By the way, you could always find a way to make your own money
and then we wouldn't need to have this difficult conversation.

With all that said, I must say you're going about it the right way.
Classic "pump and dump."
I hope this is helpful, and if you want to enter into some sort of
lease, let me know.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

----------------

To all the " I can get away with it because I'm hot ", thats your
fate: a depreciating asset...

" Beauty Fades, But Dumb Is Forever. " Judy Sheindlin.

Andre

what do i care , i'm not single now ,
and likely never will be ,

<Laughs> Riiiggghhhhhtttt.... ( Dr. Evil voice ).

And, even if what you say is true, so what ? Are you
opposed to LEARNING anything ? Clearly so....

but i'll always be gorgeous to someone ,

Dream on...

and i'll always flirt

So ? The older you get, the less anyone will care or
notice.

Watch some episodes of " Ab Fab " for more on this fact.

Andre

On Feb 1, 5:22 pm, "%" <pers...@gmail.com> wrote:

Andre Lieven wrote:

On Feb 1, 4:43 pm, "%" <pers...@gmail.com> wrote:

amy wrote:

On Jan 26, 10:13 pm, PolishKnight <mar...@cox.net> wrote:

In article
<d18f71f3-34e9-4f23-9825-02b31ffde...@d70g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,

amy <amylemo...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Jan 25, 8:42 pm, "Society" <Soci...@feminism.is.invalid>
wrote:

Phil as "Somajunky" <noth...@hotmail.com> wrote in
messagenews:4799ca78$0$7756$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com...

amy, who's feeling especially questionable, wondered...

I have a question. Why do guys assume I'mflirting when I talk
to my best guy friend?

Well Amy that is probably because nearly EVERY guy has been
sweet on a female 'friend' that he hoped would develop into
something more. :)

Or, even more probably, those guys "assume" nothing; amy is
flirting.

--
A "nice guy" is to women what the virginal ***** is to men --
fantasy.

"Sexual Harassment and the Reasonable Man Standard" by Rod van
Mechelen
http://www.vanmechelen.net/microsoft/rman.html

Ok....but I'm notflirting...i'm tallking...like i talk to
everyone else.....it's just the way i am.....i call everyone
hun....i hug all my friends.....nothin.....it's just stupid b/c
my exes are always like why do you always have to flirt? i dont
know how i'mflirting!!!!!!!

Amy, with all due respect, when a woman writes "i" in the lower
case a lot it's a huge "tell." We don't need a webcam to see you
blushing!

Flirtingis all about engaging in behavior that, if called out, one
can go into plausable denial and say: "I was just being FRIENDLY!
YOU must have made it out to be something more!"

Amy, the answer to your original question is that you already knew
it all along. You ain't fooling anyone other than yourself. Just
because you don't have a strong interest in following through on
the flirts with your best friend, that doesn't mean you aren't
doing so.

It's interesting that in our culture,flirtingby men is strongly
discouraged. Men can be fired for "sexual harassment" simply for
engaging in behavior that MIGHT be interpreted as unwanted
flirtation. Women are quick to recognize or suspectflirtingby
their men and put a stop to it.

It's all fun and games, until somebody gets hurt.

I have known a few male flirts. One in particular is a good
looking guy who would flirt with the gate clerks at the airport
and get business class upgrades. Another got free meals, er, at
airports and on planes (sheesh, these guys sure do love to fly!
:-)

Good looking people love to "flirt" because it's "fun" for them to
get special treatment and attention and they maybe use this
rationalization to justify the deception and manipulation of
others.

regards,
PolishKnight- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Wow, so you think I flirt? I don't get it, I don't mean to. Maybe I
do, but I just realize it. However, I don't manipulate people I
don't like your implying that I do.

i flirt like crazy but after all i'm gorgeous , so i can get away
with it

Thats nice. You do understand that your future is a long slow slide
into non gorgeousness, while new and young(er) hotties are entering
the field every day ?

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NGE0YzE5OWI4NWVlYWZjMDMzZTRj...
jMGFmZjM=

Wednesday, October 03, 2007

Great Moments in Golddiggery [Jonah Goldberg]

A friend working on Wall Street forwarded an alleged New York
Craigslist posting. I thought it might be too good to be true. I
reluctantly googled it and found that it was on Craigslist but has
been removed. It sounds like it still might be a hoax of some kind.
Here's an similar San Francisco post. Still, with all relevant
caveats, here it is:

What am I doing wrong?

Okay, I'm tired of beating around the bush. I'm a beautiful
(spectacularly beautiful) 25 year old girl. I'm articulate and
classy. I'm not from New York. I'm looking to get married to a guy
who makes at least half a million a year. I know how that sounds, but
keep in mind
that a million a year is middle class in New York City, so I don't
think
I'm overreaching at all.

Are there any guys who make 500K or more on this board? Any wives?
Could you send me some tips? I dated a business man who makes average
around 200 - 250. But that's where I seem to hit a roadblock. 250,000
won't get me to central park west. I know a woman in my yoga class
who was married to an investment banker and lives in Tribeca, and
she's not as pretty as I am, nor is she a great genius. So what is
she doing right? How do I get to her level?

Here are my questions specifically:

- Where do you single rich men hang out? Give me specifics- bars,
restaurants, gyms

-What are you looking for in a mate? Be honest guys, you won't hurt
my feelings

-Is there an age range I should be targeting (I'm 25)?

- Why are some of the women living lavish lifestyles on the upper
east side so plain? I've seen really 'plain jane' boring types who
have nothing to offer married to incredibly wealthy guys. I've seen
drop dead gorgeous girls in singles bars in the east village. What's
the story there?

- Jobs I should look out for? Everyone knows - lawyer, investment
banker, doctor. How much do those guys really make? And where do they
hang out? Where do the hedge fund guys hang out?

- How you decide marriage vs. just a girlfriend? I am looking for
MARRIAGE ONLY

Please hold your insults - I'm putting myself out there in an honest
way. Most beautiful women are superficial; at least I'm being up
front about it. I wouldn't be searching for these kind of guys if I
wasn't able to match them - in looks, culture, sophistication, and
keeping a nice home and hearth.

it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial
interests

And here is the alleged response from one poster, according to the
email:

I read your posting with great interest and have thought meaningfully
about your dilemma. I offer the following analysis of your
predicament.
Firstly, I'm not wasting your time, I qualify as a guy who fits your
bill; that is I make more than $500K per year. That said here's how I
see it.

Your offer, from the prospective of a guy like me, is plain and
simple a
crappy business deal. Here's why. Cutting through all the B.S., what
you
suggest is a simple trade: you bring your looks to the party and I
bring
my money. Fine, simple. But here's the rub, your looks will fade and
my
money will likely continue into perpetuity...in fact, it is very
likely
that my income increases but it is an absolute certainty that you
won't
be getting any more beautiful!

So, in economic terms you are a depreciating asset and I am an
earning asset. Not only are you a depreciating asset, your
depreciation accelerates! Let me explain, you're 25 now and will
likely stay pretty hot for the next 5 years, but less so each year.
Then the fade begins in
earnest. By 35 stick a fork in you!

So in Wall Street terms, we would call you a trading position, not a
buy
and hold...hence the rub...marriage. It doesn't make good business
sense
to "buy you" (which is what you're asking) so I'd rather lease. In
case
you think I'm being cruel, I would say the following. If my money
were to go away, so would you, so when your beauty fades I need an
out. It's
as simple as that. So a deal that makes sense is dating, not
marriage.

Separately, I was taught early in my career about efficient markets.
So,
I wonder why a girl as "articulate, classy and spectacularly
beautiful"
as you has been unable to find your sugar daddy. I find it hard to
believe that if you are as gorgeous as you say you are that the $500K
hasn't found you, if not only for a tryout.

By the way, you could always find a way to make your own money and
then we wouldn't need to have this difficult conversation.

With all that said, I must say you're going about it the right way.
Classic "pump and dump."
I hope this is helpful, and if you want to enter into some sort of
lease, let me know.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

----------------

To all the " I can get away with it because I'm hot ", thats your
fate: a depreciating asset...

" Beauty Fades, But Dumb Is Forever. " Judy Sheindlin.

Andre

what do i care , i'm not single now , and likely never will be ,

<Laughs> Riiiggghhhhhtttt.... ( Dr. Evil voice ).

And, even if what you say is true, so what ? Are you opposed to LEARNING
anything ? Clearly so....

but i'll always be gorgeous to someone ,

Dream on...

and i'll always flirt

So ? The older you get, the less anyone will care or notice.

Watch some episodes of " Ab Fab " for more on this fact.