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"Cardinal" |
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19 Jan 2004 07:11:48 AM |
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For those in the USA |
Today, Monday, January 19, is when USA citizens celebrate the
birthday of General Robert E Lee of the civil war movement.
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| User: "Criswell The Psychic Weatherman" |
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| Title: Re: For those in the USA |
19 Jan 2004 03:51:28 PM |
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Cardinal wrote:
Today, Monday, January 19, is when USA citizens celebrate the
birthday of General Robert E Lee of the civil war movement.
BZZT - Incorrect, Troll. Robert E. Lee's birthday is celebrated
tomorrow, and only in southern states.
http://www.smartcal.com/event/505?startDate=20040120
Robert E. Lee's Birthday
Tuesday, January 20, 2004
Observed in Arkansas, Florida, Kentucky,Louisiana, South
Carolina, Alabama, and Mississippi.
http://www.spofga.org/flag/2004/jan/robert_e_lee.phtml
Robert E. Lee Birthday Celebration
Tuesday January 20, 2004 - Georgia Capitol, Atlanta
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"A belief is not merely an idea the mind possesses;
it is an idea that possesses the mind." Robert Bolton
Criswell The Psychic Weatherman
ssenate@mindless.com
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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| Title: Re: For those in the USA |
20 Jan 2004 07:34:54 AM |
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In message <400C515E.2153C9C9@mindless.com>, Criswell The Psychic
Weatherman <ssenate@mindless.com> writes
Cardinal wrote:
Today, Monday, January 19, is when USA citizens celebrate the
birthday of General Robert E Lee of the civil war movement.
BZZT - Incorrect, Troll. Robert E. Lee's birthday is celebrated
tomorrow, and only in southern states.
http://www.smartcal.com/event/505?startDate=20040120
Robert E. Lee's Birthday
Tuesday, January 20, 2004
Observed in Arkansas, Florida, Kentucky,Louisiana, South
Carolina, Alabama, and Mississippi.
Interesting that, as a Virginian, his birthday isn't celebrated in
Virginia.
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The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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| Title: Re: For those in the USA |
20 Jan 2004 12:37:58 PM |
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 13:34:54 +0000, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
In message <400C515E.2153C9C9@mindless.com>, Criswell The Psychic
Weatherman <ssenate@mindless.com> writes
Cardinal wrote:
Today, Monday, January 19, is when USA citizens celebrate the
birthday of General Robert E Lee of the civil war movement.
BZZT - Incorrect, Troll. Robert E. Lee's birthday is celebrated
tomorrow, and only in southern states.
http://www.smartcal.com/event/505?startDate=20040120
Robert E. Lee's Birthday
Tuesday, January 20, 2004
Observed in Arkansas, Florida, Kentucky,Louisiana, South
Carolina, Alabama, and Mississippi.
Interesting that, as a Virginian, his birthday isn't celebrated in
Virginia.
It isn't celebrated in states that have grown to appreciate the great
leviathan of federalism.
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LANGUAGE, n. The music with which we charm the serpents guarding another's
treasure.
- Ambrose Bierce
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| User: "Michael A. Ball" |
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| Title: Re: For those in the USA |
19 Jan 2004 07:43:54 AM |
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:11:48 +0200 (EET), "Cardinal"
<cardinal-no-spam@eu.rr.net> wrote:
Today, Monday, January 19, is when USA citizens celebrate the
birthday of General Robert E Lee of the civil war movement.
Only a very tiny fraction of USA citizens will actually celebrate Lee's birth,
or even notice.
Today is also Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Day: his life does deserve
celebration. He led by example. He offered hope for racial harmony. He brought
the "medicine" our country, if not the world, needed.
Decades after his death, the stand he took still inspires people to take the
same stand. I consider that true power. Anyone, regardless of color, who
doesn't feel a great sense of loss because of his death needs to re-examine
his life.
Michael
Whatever it takes.
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| User: "Trishamolson" |
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| Title: Re: For those in the USA |
19 Jan 2004 09:30:00 AM |
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Today, Monday, January 19, is when USA citizens celebrate the
birthday of General Robert E Lee of the civil war movement.
Only a very tiny fraction of USA citizens will actually celebrate Lee's
birth,>or even notice.
How strange -- It is Martin Luther Kings Holiday today . . . and Lee's birthday
too??
Rosena
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| User: "Michael A. Ball" |
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19 Jan 2004 09:50:43 AM |
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On 19 Jan 2004 15:30:00 GMT, (Trishamolson) wrote:
How strange -- It is Martin Luther Kings Holiday today . . . and Lee's birthday
too??
Yes, that fact is getting almost as much ink (news coverage) as the day
itself. I think this is the second time the days have coincided, in 17 years
or so. I don't remember the exact number of years.
Michael
Whatever it takes.
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| User: "Trishamolson" |
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19 Jan 2004 09:59:54 AM |
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Yes, that fact is getting almost as much ink (news coverage) as the day
itself.
I always have loved the story of Grant's and Lee's meeting and the mutual
respect and civility each showed the other. Two extraordinary men.
But I would bet, many people do not like thinking of Lee and King on the same
day.
Rosena
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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| Title: Re: For those in the USA |
19 Jan 2004 12:20:14 PM |
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On 19 Jan 2004 15:30:00 GMT, (Trishamolson) wrote:
Today, Monday, January 19, is when USA citizens celebrate the
birthday of General Robert E Lee of the civil war movement.
Only a very tiny fraction of USA citizens will actually celebrate Lee's
birth,>or even notice.
How strange -- It is Martin Luther Kings Holiday today . . . and Lee's birthday
too??
What people will really fail to notice, and the media will almost certainly
never print, is that Robert E. Lee never owned a slave because he believed
that slavery was immoral.
Robert E. Lee did not fight the Civil War to maintain the institution of
slavery. That fact is very uncomfortable for people who like to believe
that the Civil War was about a single issue.
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I love deadlines. I love the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.
- Douglas Adams
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| User: "old coyote" |
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| Title: Re: For those in the USA |
22 Jan 2004 10:33:29 PM |
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CyberDroog <CyberDroog@anon.com> wrote in
news:1n7o00p5vq3t61s4a9nvk5e6u28athfcq4@4ax.com:
On 19 Jan 2004 15:30:00 GMT, (Trishamolson)
wrote:
Today, Monday, January 19, is when USA citizens celebrate the
birthday of General Robert E Lee of the civil war movement.
Only a very tiny fraction of USA citizens will actually celebrate
Lee's birth,>or even notice.
How strange -- It is Martin Luther Kings Holiday today . . . and Lee's
birthday too??
What people will really fail to notice, and the media will almost
certainly never print, is that Robert E. Lee never owned a slave
because he believed that slavery was immoral.
Robert E. Lee did not fight the Civil War to maintain the institution
of slavery. That fact is very uncomfortable for people who like to
believe that the Civil War was about a single issue.
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I love deadlines. I love the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.
- Douglas Adams
Exactly, it was State's rights vs. strong central government.
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-=oc=-
"Don't punish yourself for imagined sins." - Charles
"you do not need to bargain your well being" - %
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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| Title: Re: For those in the USA |
19 Jan 2004 12:34:37 PM |
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:43:54 -0500, Michael A. Ball <Guardian@wireco.net>
wrote:
Today is also Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Day: his life does deserve
celebration. He led by example. He offered hope for racial harmony. He brought
the "medicine" our country, if not the world, needed.
Decades after his death, the stand he took still inspires people to take the
same stand. I consider that true power. Anyone, regardless of color, who
doesn't feel a great sense of loss because of his death needs to re-examine
his life.
I don't think there are many people who believe in anything King stood for.
Not even Jesse Jackson, who held King as he died. Jackson would rather
defend the actions of criminals and extort money from corporations than do
any real work in race relations.
Race baiting, quotas, etc are not what King was all about. Yet the
advocates of such things never fail to bring up his name.
That reminds me... Did anyone see the last episode of The Apprentice?
Omarosa, a black woman, showed herself to be a true race baiter. After she
made a disparaging comment to another woman, the woman replied "That's the
pot calling the kettle black." Omarosa became (artificially) angry and
accused the woman of making a racist statement, being prejudiced, and not
being able to deal with a "powerful" black woman.
??? "The pot calling the kettle black" is a racist statement? That has
to be the most pathetic attempt at playing the race card I have ever heard.
Omarosa is due to be awarded a PhD by, I believe, April of this year.
Proof positive that a PhD does not guarantee that a person is intelligent.
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LABOR, n. One of the processes by which A acquires property for B.
- Ambrose Bierce
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| User: "Lynda" |
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| Title: Re: For those in the USA |
19 Jan 2004 09:29:25 AM |
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i have been in the usa all my life i did not know we had a day to
celebrate Robert E. Lee but did know today was the day there is no
school, banks and post offices are closed in celebration of Martin
Luther King b-day. Lynda
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| User: "Indigo Moon Man" |
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| Title: Re: For those in the USA |
19 Jan 2004 03:04:21 PM |
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Lynda <homdepo20@webtv.net> spake thusly:
i have been in the usa all my life i did not know we had a day to
celebrate Robert E. Lee but did know today was the day there is no
school, banks and post offices are closed in celebration of Martin
Luther King b-day. Lynda
There is no national holiday to celebrate Robert E. Lee. It's either some
concocted holiday made up by the KKK or some other such racist hate group or
the poster is just plain lying.
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The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear?
the LORD is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?
Psalm 27:1
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| User: "judith" |
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| Title: Re: For those in the USA |
21 Jan 2004 09:08:56 AM |
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:04:21 -0700, "Indigo Moon Man"
<indigomoon@bonbon.net> wrote:
Lynda <homdepo20@webtv.net> spake thusly:
i have been in the usa all my life i did not know we had a day to
celebrate Robert E. Lee but did know today was the day there is no
school, banks and post offices are closed in celebration of Martin
Luther King b-day. Lynda
There is no national holiday to celebrate Robert E. Lee. It's either some
concocted holiday made up by the KKK or some other such racist hate group or
the poster is just plain lying.
I did some googling and found out that a few Southern states do indeed
celebrate the birthdays of Dr. King and General Lee at the same time.
How ironic! But did you know that...
Saturday, 1/17/04, was Popeye's 75th birthday.
And January of 1984 was when the Macintosh was introduced. The first
commercial was broadcast during the Superbowl.
judith, with fun facts
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| User: "Indigo Moon Man" |
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| Title: Re: For those in the USA |
21 Jan 2004 04:25:37 PM |
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judith <j_stillwater@excite.com> spake thusly:
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:04:21 -0700, "Indigo Moon Man"
<indigomoon@bonbon.net> wrote:
There is no national holiday to celebrate Robert E. Lee. It's either
some concocted holiday made up by the KKK or some other such racist hate
group or the poster is just plain lying.
I did some googling and found out that a few Southern states do indeed
celebrate the birthdays of Dr. King and General Lee at the same time.
How ironic! But did you know that...
Oh wow, I had no idea that some states did that. Thanks for the info! I
wonder why no one has ever made an issue of it. Or maybe they did and I
just didn't hear about it.
Saturday, 1/17/04, was Popeye's 75th birthday.
Does that mean that Sweetpea is 75 also? :-)
And January of 1984 was when the Macintosh was introduced. The first
commercial was broadcast during the Superbowl.
I remember that commercial. The one with the Big Brother is watching you
audience of drones listening to Big Brother and then one woman who is not
yet broken is running toward the big screen being chased by these storm
trooper looking dudes and throws this big heavy hammer at the screen and
shatters it. That was quite a commercial. I think it's really cool.
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For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the
government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall
be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The
everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isaiah 9:6
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| User: "judith" |
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| Title: Re: For those in the USA |
21 Jan 2004 07:51:57 PM |
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On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:25:37 -0700, "Indigo Moon Man"
<indigomoon@bonbon.net> wrote:
judith <j_stillwater@excite.com> spake thusly:
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:04:21 -0700, "Indigo Moon Man"
<indigomoon@bonbon.net> wrote:
There is no national holiday to celebrate Robert E. Lee. It's either
some concocted holiday made up by the KKK or some other such racist hate
group or the poster is just plain lying.
I did some googling and found out that a few Southern states do indeed
celebrate the birthdays of Dr. King and General Lee at the same time.
How ironic! But did you know that...
Oh wow, I had no idea that some states did that. Thanks for the info! I
wonder why no one has ever made an issue of it. Or maybe they did and I
just didn't hear about it.
Saturday, 1/17/04, was Popeye's 75th birthday.
Does that mean that Sweetpea is 75 also? :-)
Hmmm...is Sweetpea Popeye's baby? Seems they shouldn't be the same
age, but only Olive Oyl knows for sure :)
And January of 1984 was when the Macintosh was introduced. The first
commercial was broadcast during the Superbowl.
I remember that commercial. The one with the Big Brother is watching you
audience of drones listening to Big Brother and then one woman who is not
yet broken is running toward the big screen being chased by these storm
trooper looking dudes and throws this big heavy hammer at the screen and
shatters it. That was quite a commercial. I think it's really cool.
Oh yeah, one of the best ever I'd say. Happy 20th Birthday, Macintosh!
judith
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| User: "Indigo Moon Man" |
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| Title: Re: For those in the USA |
21 Jan 2004 09:36:29 PM |
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judith <j_stillwater@excite.com> spake thusly:
Hmmm...is Sweetpea Popeye's baby? Seems they shouldn't be the same
age, but only Olive Oyl knows for sure :)
True, and she ain't talkin' I guess. :-)
Oh yeah, one of the best ever I'd say. Happy 20th Birthday, Macintosh!
I would say so too. I also liked the Coke commercial from the 70s where
they had the Human Christmas tree with people holding candles and singing
'I'd like to buy the world a Coke.'
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For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the
government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall
be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The
everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isaiah 9:6
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| User: "Lynda" |
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| Title: Re: For those in the USA |
21 Jan 2004 10:05:21 PM |
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that was a cool coke commercial........
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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| Title: Re: For those in the USA |
19 Jan 2004 03:33:40 PM |
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"Michael A. Ball" <Guardian@wireco.net> wrote in message
news:hqmn00187dsqbaurhr3noilt73aami72e5@4ax.com...
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:11:48 +0200 (EET), "Cardinal"
<cardinal-no-spam@eu.rr.net> wrote:
Today, Monday, January 19, is when USA citizens celebrate the
birthday of General Robert E Lee of the civil war movement.
Only a very tiny fraction of USA citizens will actually celebrate Lee's
birth,
or even notice.
Today is also Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Day: his life does deserve
celebration. He led by example. He offered hope for racial harmony. He
brought
the "medicine" our country, if not the world, needed.
Decades after his death, the stand he took still inspires people to take
the
same stand. I consider that true power. Anyone, regardless of color, who
doesn't feel a great sense of loss because of his death needs to
re-examine
his life.
Michael
Whatever it takes.
I wonder if James Byrd Jr, during the last few moments of his life, from the
bumper of the pickup truck, conscious during most of the ordeal, shortly
before his head and arm were severed from his body, paused to thank ya'll
for heeding King's message.
--
Rhiannon
rhiannon_@rogers.com
(rhiannon underscore at rogers dot com)
The Labyrinth of the Divine Miss Rhiannon
a.k.a. The Wondrous One
"If you pick up a starving dog and make him
prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the
principal difference between a dog and a
man."-- Mark Twain
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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| Title: Re: For those in the USA |
20 Jan 2004 12:35:30 PM |
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 21:33:40 GMT, "Rhiannon" <rhiannon_@rogers.com> wrote:
I wonder if James Byrd Jr, during the last few moments of his life, from the
bumper of the pickup truck, conscious during most of the ordeal, shortly
before his head and arm were severed from his body, paused to thank ya'll
for heeding King's message.
Sure he did. So did O.J. Simpson as he cut Nicole's head off.
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I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer.
- Douglas Adams
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| User: "Hap Arnold" |
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| Title: Re: For those in the USA |
19 Jan 2004 10:34:31 AM |
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Robert E. Lee was an anti-slavery advocate who emanicpated his slaves as
soon as legally able-- he had inherited from his father and they were
entailed and couldn't be freed until 1863 by terms of his father's will.
Lee advocated the induction of freed-slaves into volunteer units of the CSA
Army of Northern Virginia. There were slaves willing to take military
service with the CSA in return for emancipation but Jefferson Davis and the
rest blocked their service.
Lee hoped for the gradual emancipation of slaves before the war, but didn't
believe the federal government (before the 14th Amendment guranteed the
supremacy of the federal over the state) had the authority to grant it. He
certainly believed that forced emancipation would bring on a civil war,
which he of course was opposed to.
Lee turned down command of US forces because he believed that as a Virginian
he would be a traitor to take arms against his home, not because he agreed
with either side.
"Cardinal" <cardinal-no-spam@eu.rr.net> wrote in message
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Today, Monday, January 19, is when USA citizens celebrate the
birthday of General Robert E Lee of the civil war movement.
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