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Topic: Sociology > Depression
User: "Janithor"
Date: 30 Nov 2006 08:03:44 PM
Object: FOR THOSE WHO STILL DON'T GET IT YET
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I THINK THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ WAS STUPID AND WRONG.
I THINK THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ WAS STUPID AND WRONG.
I THINK THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ WAS STUPID AND WRONG.
I THINK THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ WAS STUPID AND WRONG.
I THINK THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ WAS STUPID AND WRONG.
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User: "Bruce."

Title: Re: FOR THOSE WHO STILL DON'T GET IT YET 02 Dec 2006 06:10:33 PM
"jordy" <Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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cowardly? to not want to kill and be killed in a senseless,
pointless war started by insane leaders? If that's cowardly, by all
means, let's all be cowardly!!!

I guess that's the real question. Who gets to define what is senseless and
pointless?
Bruce.
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User: "%"

Title: Re: FOR THOSE WHO STILL DON'T GET IT YET 02 Dec 2006 06:20:58 PM
"Bruce." <bachastain@XNOSPAMXsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"jordy" <Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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cowardly? to not want to kill and be killed in a senseless,
pointless war started by insane leaders? If that's cowardly, by all
means, let's all be cowardly!!!


I guess that's the real question. Who gets to define what is senseless

and

pointless?

Bruce.


i do , well i do for me
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User: "Bruce."

Title: Re: FOR THOSE WHO STILL DON'T GET IT YET 02 Dec 2006 08:09:12 PM
"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I guess that's the real question. Who gets to define what is senseless

and

pointless?


i do , well i do for me

Until they start drafting old farts, I also get to decide for me.
Bruce.
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User: "%"

Title: Re: FOR THOSE WHO STILL DON'T GET IT YET 02 Dec 2006 08:13:58 PM
"Bruce." <bachastain@XNOSPAMXsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I guess that's the real question. Who gets to define what is senseless

and

pointless?


i do , well i do for me


Until they start drafting old farts, I also get to decide for me.

Bruce.


there's no draft in canada ,
we'd all just love to go ,
and there would be your end of all wars
.




User: "jordy"

Title: Re: FOR THOSE WHO STILL DON'T GET IT YET 01 Dec 2006 01:17:30 PM
Jane wrote:

"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jane" <jarsenal66nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I THINK THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ WAS STUPID AND WRONG.


Yes I agree, but we're there now, so how do you suppose we bring our boys
and girls home?? Seriously!




about face



Easier said then done, there are so many Americans who want to bring home
their sons husbands, brothers, daughters, moms and sister's, without the
cooperation from our government we have little choice but to support our
troops. I don't agree with the fighting, but crapping on the troops won't
change anything. I will not behave as my parents generation and crap on
the soldiers.

to me, supporting the troops and wanting them to come back are
identical messages... We support them by wanting them to be safe and
sound,right here... I don't blame them for the war... I'm against
wars, but I'm not 100% sure that all wars are unjustifiable...
arguably, some wars are necessary, stopping Hitler for example... but
soldiers don't get to decide what wars they will fight in... they have
no choice but to fight in what ever they are dragged into... I feel sad
for them... It's the leaders who send them off to fight in these wars
that deserve an enormous amount of blame... and the people who profit
from the wars...
-"Jordy"
.
User: "Jane"

Title: Re: FOR THOSE WHO STILL DON'T GET IT YET 01 Dec 2006 05:47:06 PM
"jordy" <Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Jane wrote:

"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jane" <jarsenal66nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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x-no-archive: yes


I THINK THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ WAS STUPID AND WRONG.


Yes I agree, but we're there now, so how do you suppose we bring our
boys
and girls home?? Seriously!




about face



Easier said then done, there are so many Americans who want to bring home
their sons husbands, brothers, daughters, moms and sister's, without the
cooperation from our government we have little choice but to support our
troops. I don't agree with the fighting, but crapping on the troops
won't
change anything. I will not behave as my parents generation and crap on
the soldiers.


to me, supporting the troops and wanting them to come back are
identical messages... We support them by wanting them to be safe and
sound,right here... I don't blame them for the war... I'm against
wars, but I'm not 100% sure that all wars are unjustifiable...
arguably, some wars are necessary, stopping Hitler for example... but
soldiers don't get to decide what wars they will fight in... they have
no choice but to fight in what ever they are dragged into... I feel sad
for them... It's the leaders who send them off to fight in these wars
that deserve an enormous amount of blame... and the people who profit
from the wars...

-"Jordy"

Exactly... They signed their freedom away when they joined the armed
forces, they are owned now by "Uncle Sam" and Uncle Sam decides what they
do. Most of these men and women joined the military thinking the chances of
ever having to go to war is very minimal and now they're paying the price.
I want them all to come home safe and sound, but we lose so many everyday.
.


User: "Naomi"

Title: Re: FOR THOSE WHO STILL DON'T GET IT YET 01 Dec 2006 10:23:23 AM
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Jane wrote:

Easier said then done, there are so many Americans who want to bring home
their sons husbands, brothers, daughters, moms and sister's, without the
cooperation from our government we have little choice but to support our
troops. I don't agree with the fighting, but crapping on the troops won't
change anything. I will not behave as my parents generation and crap on
the soldiers.

How is letting them stay there and die "crapping on them"?
.
User: "Jane"

Title: Re: FOR THOSE WHO STILL DON'T GET IT YET 01 Dec 2006 05:44:17 PM
"Naomi" <darvell349@aol.com> wrote in message
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Jane wrote:


Easier said then done, there are so many Americans who want to bring home
their sons husbands, brothers, daughters, moms and sister's, without the
cooperation from our government we have little choice but to support our
troops. I don't agree with the fighting, but crapping on the troops
won't
change anything. I will not behave as my parents generation and crap on
the soldiers.


How is letting them stay there and die "crapping on them"?

You misunderstood, crapping by spitting on them, calling them baby killer
etc. When they do come home. I'm not leaving them there, this isn't "my"
choice, we're not given a vote if they can come home, it's not the ppl's
decision, it's the men in women in government, the ppl are protesting, the
ppl are writing letters, the ppl are complaining crying etc, what has it got
them? The men and women are still there dying for a cause that I can't even
fathom.
.


User: "cal"

Title: Re: FOR THOSE WHO STILL DON'T GET IT YET 01 Dec 2006 09:00:51 AM
"Jane" <jarsenal66nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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x-no-archive: yes


I THINK THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ WAS STUPID AND WRONG.


Yes I agree, but we're there now, so how do you suppose we bring our boys
and girls home?? Seriously!

same way you got them there, i suppose.
.
User: "Jane"

Title: Re: FOR THOSE WHO STILL DON'T GET IT YET 01 Dec 2006 07:25:03 PM
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"Jane" <jarsenal66nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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x-no-archive: yes


I THINK THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ WAS STUPID AND WRONG.


Yes I agree, but we're there now, so how do you suppose we bring our boys
and girls home?? Seriously!


same way you got them there, i suppose.

I didn't send them there, there wasn't an option to vote.
.


User: "Janithor"

Title: Re: FOR THOSE WHO STILL DON'T GET IT YET 30 Nov 2006 08:47:59 PM
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Jane wrote:

"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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x-no-archive: yes


I THINK THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ WAS STUPID AND WRONG.



Yes I agree, but we're there now, so how do you suppose we bring our boys
and girls home?? Seriously!

Seriously I don't know the answer. There's no good solution, IMO.
Staying is bad, leaving is bad.
But just for shits and giggles, let's recap:
I THINK THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ WAS STUPID AND WRONG.
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: FOR THOSE WHO STILL DON'T GET IT YET 30 Nov 2006 08:55:40 PM
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Jane wrote:

"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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x-no-archive: yes


I THINK THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ WAS STUPID AND WRONG.



Yes I agree, but we're there now, so how do you suppose we bring our

boys

and girls home?? Seriously!



Seriously I don't know the answer. There's no good solution, IMO.
Staying is bad, leaving is bad.

But just for shits and giggles, let's recap:

I THINK THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ WAS STUPID AND WRONG.

now its sounding like i knew it would
I THINK INVADING IRAQ WAS A WRONG AND STUPID DECISION
.

User: "Bruce."

Title: Re: FOR THOSE WHO STILL DON'T GET IT YET 03 Dec 2006 11:59:34 AM
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Seriously I don't know the answer. There's no good solution, IMO. Staying
is bad, leaving is bad.

I think the answer is in what can be accomplished.
Since Iraq is now totally involved in a civil war, there's nothing more we
can accomplish by staying there. We've started them on the path but now
it's up to them to either make peace or continue killing each other in big
numbers.
The only think we can accomplish by staying is to kill more Americans. It's
time to recognize that we've done everything humanly possible to bring them
peace, whether they want it or not, and now it's time to leave.
Bruce.
.

User: "Contrarian"

Title: Re: FOR THOSE WHO STILL DON'T GET IT YET 03 Dec 2006 03:21:39 AM
Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:

Seriously I don't know the answer. There's no good solution, IMO.
Staying is bad, leaving is bad.

this is too true.
.


User: "Kirby Cook"

Title: Re: FOR THOSE WHO STILL DON'T GET IT YET 30 Nov 2006 10:36:53 PM
Janithor wrote:

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I THINK THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ WAS STUPID AND WRONG.

I THINK THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ WAS STUPID AND WRONG.

I THINK THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ WAS STUPID AND WRONG.

I THINK THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ WAS STUPID AND WRONG.

I THINK THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ WAS STUPID AND WRONG.

C'mon Thor, don't beat about the bush. Tell us what you really think.
Kirby
PS: In light of our recent exchange, you may not think that's funny.
But I made me smile.
.
User: "Janithor"

Title: Re: FOR THOSE WHO STILL DON'T GET IT YET 30 Nov 2006 11:39:57 PM
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Kirby Cook wrote:

Janithor wrote:

x-no-archive: yes


I THINK THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ WAS STUPID AND WRONG.

I THINK THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ WAS STUPID AND WRONG.

I THINK THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ WAS STUPID AND WRONG.

I THINK THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ WAS STUPID AND WRONG.

I THINK THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ WAS STUPID AND WRONG.



C'mon Thor, don't beat about the bush. Tell us what you really think.

What I really think is that I want some running shorts that fit my goofy
legs.

Kirby

PS: In light of our recent exchange, you may not think that's funny.
But I made me smile.

No, it made me smile too. I'm not mad, I was just frustrated. Disagree
with me all you want, fine, no problem. It's when I tell you that I am
thinking about a orange, but you insist that I am actually thinking
about an apple, even when I tell you no, I'm really truly thinking about
an orange right now, that makes me want to pull out my teeth.
.
User: "jordy"

Title: Re: FOR THOSE WHO STILL DON'T GET IT YET 01 Dec 2006 01:26:33 PM
Janithor wrote:
It's when I tell you that I am

thinking about a orange, but you insist that I am actually thinking
about an apple, even when I tell you no, I'm really truly thinking about
an orange right now, that makes me want to pull out my teeth.

I can relate to that feeling Thor... It is extremly
frustrating...
-"Jordy"
.

User: "Kirby Cook"

Title: Re: FOR THOSE WHO STILL DON'T GET IT YET 01 Dec 2006 01:09:48 PM
Janithor wrote:

x-no-archive: yes

Kirby Cook wrote:

Janithor wrote:

x-no-archive: yes


I THINK THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ WAS STUPID AND WRONG.

I THINK THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ WAS STUPID AND WRONG.

I THINK THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ WAS STUPID AND WRONG.

I THINK THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ WAS STUPID AND WRONG.

I THINK THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ WAS STUPID AND WRONG.



C'mon Thor, don't beat about the bush. Tell us what you really think.


What I really think is that I want some running shorts that fit my goofy
legs.

Kirby

PS: In light of our recent exchange, you may not think that's funny.
But I made me smile.


No, it made me smile too. I'm not mad, I was just frustrated. Disagree
with me all you want, fine, no problem. It's when I tell you that I am
thinking about a orange, but you insist that I am actually thinking
about an apple, even when I tell you no, I'm really truly thinking about
an orange right now, that makes me want to pull out my teeth.

Have you ever found yourself in denial? Have you ever seen others in
denial? Let's just say I'm well-enough aquainted with the reality of
the state, from personal experience, that when somebody accuses me of
it, I, too, may take some time to explain, as you did.
Kirby
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