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Topic: Sociology > Depression
User: "electro"
Date: 26 Mar 2006 10:19:50 AM
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fucking depressed
I cannot be alone with this any longer. such little window of opportunity
for friendship/romance.. ..I'm too shy/mute, have such horrible
self-esteem, zero-confidence, to have a fucking chance of a happy life /
relationship. dealing with one child alone is hard enough. dealing with 2
children in different homes, with only a shred of token support, while
everyone else around me thrives on in their happy families, oblivious to my
position is bound to destroy me. I don't know if I can handle being around
her as a platonic friend forever.. ..it's so push/pull-selfish, and she
appears to only want to reap the benefits of my fondness, not reciprocate
them at all..
I should go, move somewhere else, start fresh.. ..*****.. ..it sounds so
stupid.
and why do I even post here any more. no one gives a ***** about me, no one
asks how I'm doing unless they know I'm happy.. ..no one pays me any
attention.. .feel like I have the fucking plague.
somebody please kill me..
.

User: "cal"

Title: Re: forgotten 26 Mar 2006 11:44:45 AM
"electro" <pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote in message
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fucking depressed

I cannot be alone with this any longer. such little window of opportunity
for friendship/romance.. ..I'm too shy/mute, have such horrible
self-esteem, zero-confidence, to have a fucking chance of a happy life /
relationship. dealing with one child alone is hard enough. dealing with
2 children in different homes, with only a shred of token support, while
everyone else around me thrives on in their happy families, oblivious to
my position is bound to destroy me. I don't know if I can handle being
around her as a platonic friend forever.. ..it's so push/pull-selfish, and
she appears to only want to reap the benefits of my fondness, not
reciprocate them at all..

I should go, move somewhere else, start fresh.. ..*****.. ..it sounds
so stupid.

i don't know much about your situation, but i sure know what you mean by
"push/pull selfish". i've had a few "platonic friends" like this and i tell
you for true, there's only one way to cope. cultivate detachment. it's the
beginning of self-esteem to know you have the power to free yourself from
something that's killing you.
.
User: "electro"

Title: Re: forgotten 26 Mar 2006 11:48:36 AM
"cal" <cal1360@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"electro" <pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote in message
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fucking depressed

I cannot be alone with this any longer. such little window of

opportunity

for friendship/romance.. ..I'm too shy/mute, have such horrible
self-esteem, zero-confidence, to have a fucking chance of a happy life /
relationship. dealing with one child alone is hard enough. dealing

with

2 children in different homes, with only a shred of token support, while
everyone else around me thrives on in their happy families, oblivious to
my position is bound to destroy me. I don't know if I can handle being
around her as a platonic friend forever.. ..it's so push/pull-selfish,

and

she appears to only want to reap the benefits of my fondness, not
reciprocate them at all..

I should go, move somewhere else, start fresh.. ..*****.. ..it

sounds

so stupid.


i don't know much about your situation, but i sure know what you mean by
"push/pull selfish". i've had a few "platonic friends" like this and i

tell

you for true, there's only one way to cope. cultivate detachment. it's the
beginning of self-esteem to know you have the power to free yourself from
something that's killing you.


I know it is.. ..and thanks for responding..
my situation, however, is that she is about 8 months pregnant with my
child.. ..I cannot turn my back completely on our baby's life.
:\
.
User: "cal"

Title: Re: forgotten 26 Mar 2006 12:20:32 PM
"electro" <pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote in message
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"cal" <cal1360@gmail.com> wrote in message
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i don't know much about your situation, but i sure know what you mean by
"push/pull selfish". i've had a few "platonic friends" like this and i
tell you for true, there's only one way to cope. cultivate detachment.
it's the beginning of self-esteem to know you have the power to free
yourself from something that's killing you.

I know it is.. ..and thanks for responding..

my situation, however, is that she is about 8 months pregnant with my
child.. ..I cannot turn my back completely on our baby's life.

oh. well, i guess i wouldn't call any relationship with someone who's
pregnant with my kid platonic. but maybe that's just semantics. what is it
about this that's killing you? surely something more than a woman in late
pregnancy choosing to avoid intimacy for the time being? some do, alas, and
for some months beyond.
.
User: "Jane"

Title: Re: forgotten 26 Mar 2006 12:50:52 PM
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"cal" <cal1360@gmail.com> wrote in message
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i don't know much about your situation, but i sure know what you mean by
"push/pull selfish". i've had a few "platonic friends" like this and i
tell you for true, there's only one way to cope. cultivate detachment.
it's the beginning of self-esteem to know you have the power to free
yourself from something that's killing you.

I know it is.. ..and thanks for responding..

my situation, however, is that she is about 8 months pregnant with my
child.. ..I cannot turn my back completely on our baby's life.


oh. well, i guess i wouldn't call any relationship with someone who's
pregnant with my kid platonic. but maybe that's just semantics. what is it
about this that's killing you? surely something more than a woman in late
pregnancy choosing to avoid intimacy for the time being? some do, alas,
and
for some months beyond.

Cal Electro and the mom broke up not just avoiding intimacy...
.
User: "cal"

Title: Re: forgotten 26 Mar 2006 01:14:14 PM
"Jane" <jarsenal66nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Cal Electro and the mom broke up not just avoiding intimacy...

ok, got it. that's a tough situation to be in, and i gather there are
surrounding factors that make it even harder.
.
User: "Jane"

Title: Re: forgotten 26 Mar 2006 01:18:10 PM
"cal" <cal1360@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jane" <jarsenal66nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Cal Electro and the mom broke up not just avoiding intimacy...


ok, got it. that's a tough situation to be in, and i gather there are
surrounding factors that make it even harder.



Oh yeah... but for the most part Ty is doing extremely well as a single
father, providing for his son whom lives with him now. He just forgets once
in a while when the beast chooses to crap on him. Sorry Ty don't mean to
talk about you or answer for you like you can't do it yourself... Ok you
can kick me in the ***** this time :o)
.
User: "electro"

Title: Re: forgotten 26 Mar 2006 04:09:32 PM
"Jane" <jarsenal66nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"cal" <cal1360@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jane" <jarsenal66nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Cal Electro and the mom broke up not just avoiding intimacy...


ok, got it. that's a tough situation to be in, and i gather there are
surrounding factors that make it even harder.




Oh yeah... but for the most part Ty is doing extremely well as a single
father, providing for his son whom lives with him now. He just forgets

once

in a while when the beast chooses to crap on him. Sorry Ty don't mean to
talk about you or answer for you like you can't do it yourself... Ok you
can kick me in the ***** this time :o)


no, I don't mind at all.. ..you know me better than I do sometimes.. ..I
was out, thanks for takin the wheel for me. ;-)
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: forgotten 26 Mar 2006 04:11:42 PM
"electro" <pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote in message
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"Jane" <jarsenal66nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"cal" <cal1360@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jane" <jarsenal66nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Cal Electro and the mom broke up not just avoiding intimacy...


ok, got it. that's a tough situation to be in, and i gather there are
surrounding factors that make it even harder.




Oh yeah... but for the most part Ty is doing extremely well as a single
father, providing for his son whom lives with him now. He just forgets

once

in a while when the beast chooses to crap on him. Sorry Ty don't mean

to

talk about you or answer for you like you can't do it yourself... Ok

you

can kick me in the ***** this time :o)


no, I don't mind at all.. ..you know me better than I do sometimes.. ..I
was out, thanks for takin the wheel for me. ;-)

no problem , glad i could help

.








User: "%"

Title: Re: forgotten 26 Mar 2006 10:32:02 AM
"electro" <pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote in message
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fucking depressed

I cannot be alone with this any longer. such little window of opportunity
for friendship/romance.. ..I'm too shy/mute, have such horrible
self-esteem, zero-confidence, to have a fucking chance of a happy life /
relationship. dealing with one child alone is hard enough. dealing with

2

children in different homes, with only a shred of token support, while
everyone else around me thrives on in their happy families, oblivious to

my

position is bound to destroy me. I don't know if I can handle being

around

her as a platonic friend forever.. ..it's so push/pull-selfish, and she
appears to only want to reap the benefits of my fondness, not reciprocate
them at all..

I should go, move somewhere else, start fresh.. ..*****.. ..it sounds

so

stupid.

and why do I even post here any more. no one gives a ***** about me, no

one

asks how I'm doing unless they know I'm happy.. ..no one pays me any
attention.. .feel like I have the fucking plague.

somebody please kill me..


i tried to tell you this is where you are heading ,
but you called me names and tried to tease me
.
User: "electro"

Title: Re: forgotten 26 Mar 2006 10:55:53 AM
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"electro" <pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote in message
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fucking depressed

I cannot be alone with this any longer. such little window of

opportunity

for friendship/romance.. ..I'm too shy/mute, have such horrible
self-esteem, zero-confidence, to have a fucking chance of a happy life /
relationship. dealing with one child alone is hard enough. dealing

with

2

children in different homes, with only a shred of token support, while
everyone else around me thrives on in their happy families, oblivious to

my

position is bound to destroy me. I don't know if I can handle being

around

her as a platonic friend forever.. ..it's so push/pull-selfish, and she
appears to only want to reap the benefits of my fondness, not

reciprocate

them at all..

I should go, move somewhere else, start fresh.. ..*****.. ..it

sounds

so

stupid.

and why do I even post here any more. no one gives a ***** about me, no

one

asks how I'm doing unless they know I'm happy.. ..no one pays me any
attention.. .feel like I have the fucking plague.

somebody please kill me..



i tried to tell you this is where you are heading ,
but you called me names and tried to tease me


heading? I've been here from the start, just in different degrees..
...it's always about *you* though isn't it? thanks for your support.
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: forgotten 26 Mar 2006 11:03:43 AM
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"electro" <pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote in message
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fucking depressed

I cannot be alone with this any longer. such little window of

opportunity

for friendship/romance.. ..I'm too shy/mute, have such horrible
self-esteem, zero-confidence, to have a fucking chance of a happy life

/

relationship. dealing with one child alone is hard enough. dealing

with

2

children in different homes, with only a shred of token support, while
everyone else around me thrives on in their happy families, oblivious

to

my

position is bound to destroy me. I don't know if I can handle being

around

her as a platonic friend forever.. ..it's so push/pull-selfish, and

she

appears to only want to reap the benefits of my fondness, not

reciprocate

them at all..

I should go, move somewhere else, start fresh.. ..*****.. ..it

sounds

so

stupid.

and why do I even post here any more. no one gives a ***** about me,

no

one

asks how I'm doing unless they know I'm happy.. ..no one pays me any
attention.. .feel like I have the fucking plague.

somebody please kill me..



i tried to tell you this is where you are heading ,
but you called me names and tried to tease me


heading? I've been here from the start, just in different degrees..
..it's always about *you* though isn't it? thanks for your support.


i don't know how you got it being all about me in this ,
but its those very kinds of replies that leave you ,
where you are now , hope you enjoy it
oh by the way this reply has 1 ( i ) and 5 ( you's )
and my last one had 1 ( i ) and 3 ( you's ) ,
so it sure looks to me like my replies were more about you
.
User: "electro"

Title: Re: forgotten 26 Mar 2006 11:17:02 AM
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fucking depressed

I cannot be alone with this any longer. such little window of

opportunity

for friendship/romance.. ..I'm too shy/mute, have such horrible
self-esteem, zero-confidence, to have a fucking chance of a happy

life

/

relationship. dealing with one child alone is hard enough. dealing

with

2

children in different homes, with only a shred of token support,

while

everyone else around me thrives on in their happy families,

oblivious

to

my

position is bound to destroy me. I don't know if I can handle being

around

her as a platonic friend forever.. ..it's so push/pull-selfish, and

she

appears to only want to reap the benefits of my fondness, not

reciprocate

them at all..

I should go, move somewhere else, start fresh.. ..*****.. ..it

sounds

so

stupid.

and why do I even post here any more. no one gives a ***** about me,

no

one

asks how I'm doing unless they know I'm happy.. ..no one pays me any
attention.. .feel like I have the fucking plague.

somebody please kill me..



i tried to tell you this is where you are heading ,
but you called me names and tried to tease me


heading? I've been here from the start, just in different degrees..
..it's always about *you* though isn't it? thanks for your support.



i don't know how you got it being all about me in this ,
but its those very kinds of replies that leave you ,
where you are now , hope you enjoy it
oh by the way this reply has 1 ( i ) and 5 ( you's )
and my last one had 1 ( i ) and 3 ( you's ) ,
so it sure looks to me like my replies were more about you


it's about you being "right", it's about you lording over this group, it's
about you and your hungry ego..
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: forgotten 26 Mar 2006 11:25:35 AM
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fucking depressed

I cannot be alone with this any longer. such little window of

opportunity

for friendship/romance.. ..I'm too shy/mute, have such horrible
self-esteem, zero-confidence, to have a fucking chance of a happy

life

/

relationship. dealing with one child alone is hard enough.

dealing

with

2

children in different homes, with only a shred of token support,

while

everyone else around me thrives on in their happy families,

oblivious

to

my

position is bound to destroy me. I don't know if I can handle

being

around

her as a platonic friend forever.. ..it's so push/pull-selfish,

and

she

appears to only want to reap the benefits of my fondness, not

reciprocate

them at all..

I should go, move somewhere else, start fresh.. ..*****.. ..it

sounds

so

stupid.

and why do I even post here any more. no one gives a ***** about

me,

no

one

asks how I'm doing unless they know I'm happy.. ..no one pays me

any

attention.. .feel like I have the fucking plague.

somebody please kill me..



i tried to tell you this is where you are heading ,
but you called me names and tried to tease me


heading? I've been here from the start, just in different degrees..
..it's always about *you* though isn't it? thanks for your support.



i don't know how you got it being all about me in this ,
but its those very kinds of replies that leave you ,
where you are now , hope you enjoy it
oh by the way this reply has 1 ( i ) and 5 ( you's )
and my last one had 1 ( i ) and 3 ( you's ) ,
so it sure looks to me like my replies were more about you


it's about you being "right", it's about you lording over this group, it's
about you and your hungry ego..


its not a fault to be right so I have no regret over that ,
and if you see me as a lord that's what you see ,
I come here because I have friends here ,
and having an ego isn't a sin really either ,
but the thing that intrigues me the most about this is ,
why do you care if I'm right or not ,
why do you care if I appear lord like or not ,
and why do you care if I have an ego or not ,
I can only take it that you are jealous ,
because you wish you were and had these things
.
User: "electro"

Title: Re: forgotten 26 Mar 2006 11:36:53 AM
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"electro" <pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote in message
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fucking depressed

I cannot be alone with this any longer. such little window of

opportunity

for friendship/romance.. ..I'm too shy/mute, have such

horrible

self-esteem, zero-confidence, to have a fucking chance of a

happy

life

/

relationship. dealing with one child alone is hard enough.

dealing

with

2

children in different homes, with only a shred of token support,

while

everyone else around me thrives on in their happy families,

oblivious

to

my

position is bound to destroy me. I don't know if I can handle

being

around

her as a platonic friend forever.. ..it's so push/pull-selfish,

and

she

appears to only want to reap the benefits of my fondness, not

reciprocate

them at all..

I should go, move somewhere else, start fresh.. ..*****..

...it

sounds

so

stupid.

and why do I even post here any more. no one gives a ***** about

me,

no

one

asks how I'm doing unless they know I'm happy.. ..no one pays me

any

attention.. .feel like I have the fucking plague.

somebody please kill me..



i tried to tell you this is where you are heading ,
but you called me names and tried to tease me


heading? I've been here from the start, just in different degrees..
..it's always about *you* though isn't it? thanks for your support.



i don't know how you got it being all about me in this ,
but its those very kinds of replies that leave you ,
where you are now , hope you enjoy it
oh by the way this reply has 1 ( i ) and 5 ( you's )
and my last one had 1 ( i ) and 3 ( you's ) ,
so it sure looks to me like my replies were more about you


it's about you being "right", it's about you lording over this group,

it's

about you and your hungry ego..



its not a fault to be right so I have no regret over that ,
and if you see me as a lord that's what you see ,
I come here because I have friends here ,
and having an ego isn't a sin really either ,
but the thing that intrigues me the most about this is ,
why do you care if I'm right or not ,
why do you care if I appear lord like or not ,
and why do you care if I have an ego or not ,
I can only take it that you are jealous ,
because you wish you were and had these things



well, I've thought about this recently, and to be honest, you remind me a
lot of my dad. ego-centric, righteous, and so myopic and stubborn on your
point of view that you're oblivious to the possibility if being wrong. so
maybe that's where the anger and annoyance for you roots from.
so, sorry for any misdirected *****.. ..but you seemed to enjoy it anyway..
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: forgotten 26 Mar 2006 11:43:21 AM
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fucking depressed

I cannot be alone with this any longer. such little window of

opportunity

for friendship/romance.. ..I'm too shy/mute, have such

horrible

self-esteem, zero-confidence, to have a fucking chance of a

happy

life

/

relationship. dealing with one child alone is hard enough.

dealing

with

2

children in different homes, with only a shred of token

support,

while

everyone else around me thrives on in their happy families,

oblivious

to

my

position is bound to destroy me. I don't know if I can handle

being

around

her as a platonic friend forever.. ..it's so

push/pull-selfish,

and

she

appears to only want to reap the benefits of my fondness, not

reciprocate

them at all..

I should go, move somewhere else, start fresh.. ..*****..

..it

sounds

so

stupid.

and why do I even post here any more. no one gives a *****

about

me,

no

one

asks how I'm doing unless they know I'm happy.. ..no one pays

me

any

attention.. .feel like I have the fucking plague.

somebody please kill me..



i tried to tell you this is where you are heading ,
but you called me names and tried to tease me


heading? I've been here from the start, just in different

degrees..

..it's always about *you* though isn't it? thanks for your

support.




i don't know how you got it being all about me in this ,
but its those very kinds of replies that leave you ,
where you are now , hope you enjoy it
oh by the way this reply has 1 ( i ) and 5 ( you's )
and my last one had 1 ( i ) and 3 ( you's ) ,
so it sure looks to me like my replies were more about you


it's about you being "right", it's about you lording over this group,

it's

about you and your hungry ego..



its not a fault to be right so I have no regret over that ,
and if you see me as a lord that's what you see ,
I come here because I have friends here ,
and having an ego isn't a sin really either ,
but the thing that intrigues me the most about this is ,
why do you care if I'm right or not ,
why do you care if I appear lord like or not ,
and why do you care if I have an ego or not ,
I can only take it that you are jealous ,
because you wish you were and had these things



well, I've thought about this recently, and to be honest, you remind me a
lot of my dad. ego-centric, righteous, and so myopic and stubborn on your
point of view that you're oblivious to the possibility if being wrong. so
maybe that's where the anger and annoyance for you roots from.

so, sorry for any misdirected *****.. ..but you seemed to enjoy it anyway..


I only enjoy it in as far as if you are taking it out on me ,

you're not taking it out on yourself or others ,
but you'll never see it that way and you must also enjoy it ,
its the only form of communication you ever try to have with me ,
and I of course don't know your father at all but if he's like me ,
then he is a great well rounded and wise person ,
who probably doesn't wish to stick his nose in your affairs
.
User: "electro"

Title: Re: forgotten 26 Mar 2006 12:02:42 PM
"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"electro" <pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote in message
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well, I've thought about this recently, and to be honest, you remind me

a

lot of my dad. ego-centric, righteous, and so myopic and stubborn on

your

point of view that you're oblivious to the possibility if being wrong.

so

maybe that's where the anger and annoyance for you roots from.

so, sorry for any misdirected *****.. ..but you seemed to enjoy it

anyway..



I only enjoy it in as far as if you are taking it out on me ,

you're not taking it out on yourself or others ,

since when did you care about me?

but you'll never see it that way and you must also enjoy it ,
its the only form of communication you ever try to have with me ,

not true, I've extended the olive branch several times.. ..you've always
ignored it completely, and gone back to insulting me.

and I of course don't know your father at all but if he's like me ,
then he is a great well rounded and wise person ,
who probably doesn't wish to stick his nose in your affairs

well, it's true that he sees himself very much like this.. ..but it's not
the case at all. he lives on the bad side of town, in a little crapshack,
has unprotected sex with multiple HIV-positive junky whores, while
rotationally milking his parents and other relatives (including attempts
with my brother and I) out of cash he needs to maintain this dysfunction.
in the past, my bro and I have attempted intervention with him - many times
we've reached out to him, and continue to attempt to offer him some
guidance.. ..but from his pov, he's a completely self-actualized and
well-adjusted shining example of human acheivement.
and he sticks his nose into my affiars all the time.. ..tries to wind me up
into his own problems, and cater to his selfish needs. I'm the closest
thing to a therapist he has, and that's not good for either of us.
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: forgotten 26 Mar 2006 12:24:10 PM
"electro" <pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote in message
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"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"electro" <pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote in message
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well, I've thought about this recently, and to be honest, you remind

me

a

lot of my dad. ego-centric, righteous, and so myopic and stubborn on

your

point of view that you're oblivious to the possibility if being wrong.

so

maybe that's where the anger and annoyance for you roots from.

so, sorry for any misdirected *****.. ..but you seemed to enjoy it

anyway..



I only enjoy it in as far as if you are taking it out on me ,

you're not taking it out on yourself or others ,


since when did you care about me?

but you'll never see it that way and you must also enjoy it ,
its the only form of communication you ever try to have with me ,


not true, I've extended the olive branch several times.. ..you've always
ignored it completely, and gone back to insulting me.

and I of course don't know your father at all but if he's like me ,
then he is a great well rounded and wise person ,
who probably doesn't wish to stick his nose in your affairs


well, it's true that he sees himself very much like this.. ..but it's not
the case at all. he lives on the bad side of town, in a little crapshack,
has unprotected sex with multiple HIV-positive junky whores, while
rotationally milking his parents and other relatives (including attempts
with my brother and I) out of cash he needs to maintain this dysfunction.
in the past, my bro and I have attempted intervention with him - many

times

we've reached out to him, and continue to attempt to offer him some
guidance.. ..but from his pov, he's a completely self-actualized and
well-adjusted shining example of human acheivement.

and he sticks his nose into my affiars all the time.. ..tries to wind me

up

into his own problems, and cater to his selfish needs. I'm the closest
thing to a therapist he has, and that's not good for either of us.


it looks like you wind him into your probs too
.

User: "Jane"

Title: Re: forgotten 26 Mar 2006 12:09:23 PM
"electro" <pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote in message
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well, it's true that he sees himself very much like this.. ..but it's not
the case at all. he lives on the bad side of town, in a little crapshack,
has unprotected sex with multiple HIV-positive junky whores,

Unfortunately he's not a child and if this is how he wants to live his life,
it's not for you to decide different, you don't have to approve Ty, just
stay away from it.

while
rotationally milking his parents and other relatives (including attempts
with my brother and I) out of cash he needs to maintain this dysfunction.
in the past, my bro and I have attempted intervention with him - many
times
we've reached out to him, and continue to attempt to offer him some
guidance.. ..but from his pov, he's a completely self-actualized and
well-adjusted shining example of human acheivement.

Again you did what you could, he doesn't want to change, he's happy the way
he is, so you have to accept that and let it go, worry about Ty, worry about
your DS's.


and he sticks his nose into my affiars all the time.. ..tries to wind me
up
into his own problems, and cater to his selfish needs. I'm the closest
thing to a therapist he has, and that's not good for either of us.

Do what my therapist told me to do with such a life sucking dysfunctional
family, "divorce them and change your numbers, cut off communication, Jane
they will ultimately be the death of you." That's why I jumped to move 2k
away, I choose when I'm communicating, I choose if I want to see them.
"Worry about #1, because if there is no #2, who is going to worry about #1"
.



User: "J K"

Title: Re: forgotten 26 Mar 2006 12:19:55 PM
Hey Electro,,
Go to a bar, pick up a cute young hot woman and have wild sweaty sex,
that'll boost yer low self esteem. As far as relationships go, forget
about it,, Personally anymore,,, I dont think they're worth the pain and
suffering. Go out and have fun, Leave yer depression home tho, dont take
that with ya.
.
User: "electro"

Title: Re: forgotten 27 Mar 2006 01:06:05 AM
"J K" <Jeff2612@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Hey Electro,,
Go to a bar, pick up a cute young hot woman and have wild sweaty sex,
that'll boost yer low self esteem. As far as relationships go, forget
about it,, Personally anymore,,, I dont think they're worth the pain and
suffering. Go out and have fun, Leave yer depression home tho, dont take
that with ya.

well, as well-intentioned as your suggestion is.. ..I've never been able to
strut around laying any girl I set my sights on. I'm shy to the point of
avoidance. I wouldn't be in the state I'm in if I could do anything near
your suggestion with the ease you speak of..
.
User: "cal"

Title: Re: forgotten 27 Mar 2006 01:26:51 AM
"electro" <pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote in message
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"J K" <Jeff2612@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Hey Electro,,
Go to a bar, pick up a cute young hot woman and have wild sweaty sex,
that'll boost yer low self esteem. As far as relationships go, forget
about it,, Personally anymore,,, I dont think they're worth the pain and
suffering. Go out and have fun, Leave yer depression home tho, dont take
that with ya.

well, as well-intentioned as your suggestion is.. ..I've never been able
to strut around laying any girl I set my sights on. I'm shy to the point
of avoidance. I wouldn't be in the state I'm in if I could do anything
near your suggestion with the ease you speak of..

you probably would. you'd find the nasties come back with a vengeance after
the jollies are over. so don't worry about that at least... you're not
missing a thing.
.


User: "Jane"

Title: Re: forgotten 26 Mar 2006 12:53:02 PM
"J K" <Jeff2612@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Hey Electro,,
Go to a bar, pick up a cute young hot woman and have wild sweaty sex,
that'll boost yer low self esteem. As far as relationships go, forget
about it,, Personally anymore,,, I dont think they're worth the pain and
suffering. Go out and have fun, Leave yer depression home tho, dont take
that with ya.

Oh the last thing Ty needs right now is mindless fucking... Though on the
other hand... (no pun intended with the hand remark)
.




User: "Bacon"

Title: Re: forgotten 26 Mar 2006 11:26:00 AM
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:17:02 GMT, "electro"
<pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote:

it's about you being "right", it's about you lording over this group, it's
about you and your hungry ego..

Have you tried to read other groups out there <question mark> Most
are unbearable. There is very little positive interaction,
unintelligent and immature posters, and absolutely no group unity.
Sure, there is some negative activity here, but overall this is the
most supportive, fun and interesting group I've experienced. Maybe
it's because someone in particular is always here, well armed and
persistent and keeps the place respectable by sending the losers
packing...
.
User: "cal"

Title: Re: forgotten 26 Mar 2006 12:18:11 PM
"Bacon" <rbkfour@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Have you tried to read other groups out there <question mark> Most
are unbearable. There is very little positive interaction,
unintelligent and immature posters, and absolutely no group unity.

before i discovered usenet i really had no idea how the unedited, uncensored
collective mind of humanity works. it's really quite awesome in its hideous
beauty.
.




User: "Bacon"

Title: Re: forgotten 26 Mar 2006 11:13:36 AM
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 16:55:53 GMT, "electro"
<pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote:


"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"electro" <pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote in message
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fucking depressed

I cannot be alone with this any longer. such little window of

opportunity

for friendship/romance.. ..I'm too shy/mute, have such horrible
self-esteem, zero-confidence, to have a fucking chance of a happy life /
relationship. dealing with one child alone is hard enough. dealing

with

2

children in different homes, with only a shred of token support, while
everyone else around me thrives on in their happy families, oblivious to

my

position is bound to destroy me. I don't know if I can handle being

around

her as a platonic friend forever.. ..it's so push/pull-selfish, and she
appears to only want to reap the benefits of my fondness, not

reciprocate

them at all..

I should go, move somewhere else, start fresh.. ..*****.. ..it

sounds

so

stupid.

and why do I even post here any more. no one gives a ***** about me, no

one

asks how I'm doing unless they know I'm happy.. ..no one pays me any
attention.. .feel like I have the fucking plague.

somebody please kill me..



i tried to tell you this is where you are heading ,
but you called me names and tried to tease me


heading? I've been here from the start, just in different degrees..
..it's always about *you* though isn't it? thanks for your support.

You need to be thankful for what you've got. 1 child and another on
the way...and a cordial, well interesting relationship with your ex.
I'm shy, have no self-esteem and have been sitting on my couch all
weekend watching t.v. and reading this newsgroup. I have no close
friends and no real prospect of ever getting laid again. But I'm at
peace with it, ah, what could be...I stopped kidding myself long ago
and truly enjoy my lonely, pathetic existence.
.
User: "electro"

Title: Re: forgotten 26 Mar 2006 11:30:01 AM
"Bacon" <rbkfour@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 16:55:53 GMT, "electro"
<pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote:


"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"electro" <pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote in message
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fucking depressed

I cannot be alone with this any longer. such little window of

opportunity

for friendship/romance.. ..I'm too shy/mute, have such horrible
self-esteem, zero-confidence, to have a fucking chance of a happy

life /

relationship. dealing with one child alone is hard enough. dealing

with

2

children in different homes, with only a shred of token support,

while

everyone else around me thrives on in their happy families, oblivious

to

my

position is bound to destroy me. I don't know if I can handle being

around

her as a platonic friend forever.. ..it's so push/pull-selfish, and

she

appears to only want to reap the benefits of my fondness, not

reciprocate

them at all..

I should go, move somewhere else, start fresh.. ..*****.. ..it

sounds

so

stupid.

and why do I even post here any more. no one gives a ***** about me,

no

one

asks how I'm doing unless they know I'm happy.. ..no one pays me any
attention.. .feel like I have the fucking plague.

somebody please kill me..



i tried to tell you this is where you are heading ,
but you called me names and tried to tease me


heading? I've been here from the start, just in different degrees..
..it's always about *you* though isn't it? thanks for your support.


You need to be thankful for what you've got. 1 child and another on
the way...and a cordial, well interesting relationship with your ex.
I'm shy, have no self-esteem and have been sitting on my couch all
weekend watching t.v. and reading this newsgroup. I have no close
friends and no real prospect of ever getting laid again. But I'm at
peace with it, ah, what could be...I stopped kidding myself long ago
and truly enjoy my lonely, pathetic existence.

sorry Bacon.. ..and thanks..
I guess children are wonderful, as far as just being there.. ..but such hard
work.. ..so very hard to do alone. exhausting not only physically.. ..but
so emotionally draining.. ..I need to vent, and nobody in my life
who can handle my world..
sorry about the self-esteem thing.. ..it's haunted me throughout my whole
life as well. my current "strategy" for attracting beautiful women I meet
is to feign complete nonchalance to the point of avoiding and ignoring them
completely.. ..bound to get me some action real soon, no?
.
User: "Jane"

Title: Re: forgotten 26 Mar 2006 12:03:45 PM
"electro" <pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote in message
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"Bacon" <rbkfour@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 16:55:53 GMT, "electro"
<pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote:


"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"electro" <pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote in message
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fucking depressed

I cannot be alone with this any longer. such little window of

opportunity

for friendship/romance.. ..I'm too shy/mute, have such horrible
self-esteem, zero-confidence, to have a fucking chance of a happy

life /

relationship. dealing with one child alone is hard enough. dealing

with

2

children in different homes, with only a shred of token support,

while

everyone else around me thrives on in their happy families,
oblivious

to

my

position is bound to destroy me. I don't know if I can handle being

around

her as a platonic friend forever.. ..it's so push/pull-selfish, and

she

appears to only want to reap the benefits of my fondness, not

reciprocate

them at all..

I should go, move somewhere else, start fresh.. ..*****.. ..it

sounds

so

stupid.

and why do I even post here any more. no one gives a ***** about me,

no

one

asks how I'm doing unless they know I'm happy.. ..no one pays me any
attention.. .feel like I have the fucking plague.

somebody please kill me..



i tried to tell you this is where you are heading ,
but you called me names and tried to tease me


heading? I've been here from the start, just in different degrees..
..it's always about *you* though isn't it? thanks for your support.


You need to be thankful for what you've got. 1 child and another on
the way...and a cordial, well interesting relationship with your ex.
I'm shy, have no self-esteem and have been sitting on my couch all
weekend watching t.v. and reading this newsgroup. I have no close
friends and no real prospect of ever getting laid again. But I'm at
peace with it, ah, what could be...I stopped kidding myself long ago
and truly enjoy my lonely, pathetic existence.


sorry Bacon.. ..and thanks..

I guess children are wonderful, as far as just being there.. ..but such
hard
work.. ..so very hard to do alone. exhausting not only physically.. ..but
so emotionally draining.. ..I need to vent, and nobody in my life
who can handle my world..

sorry about the self-esteem thing.. ..it's haunted me throughout my whole
life as well. my current "strategy" for attracting beautiful women I meet
is to feign complete nonchalance to the point of avoiding and ignoring
them
completely.. ..bound to get me some action real soon, no?


Oh I hope this doesn't make you mad....
It's not about you anymore... It's about DS, you gave up your freedom of
worrying about your social life, your romantic life, your sexual life when
you chose to have sex with DS's mom. Once DS was born your life has changed
to the point that it's not your life anymore, because everything you do,
everything you decide, everything you are is going to be a big influence of
DS. This continues until your DS's are developed enough that they are going
to be who they are going to be regardless of your influence. I would say
mid to late teens. Now you can't dwell on how many years that is but make
the decision that you are going to work your ***** off, be the loving and
supportive parent they require, and forget about getting laid. Having and
SO, does not pay the bills, or put food on the table, or purchase you the
necessary things to raise healthy children. Imagine the confusion your
rollercoaster emotions cause you're son and ask yourself, "does he deserve
this?"
You know Ty if I lived closer I'd do what I could to help you out as far as
giving you breaks so you can have your time, yes we all need our time, our
solitude, our freedoms, being a single mom most of my life, not all of the
time, the kids got the best of me when I was broke, and home. They
appreciate me more when I'm just me, and not with a SO. You'll find the
same thing, show your son that you can be happy and a good father single as
well as when you are not, or he'll learn to resent the woman in your life,
and he'll hate himself that he couldn't make you happy by himself!?
.
User: "electro"

Title: Re: forgotten 27 Mar 2006 01:25:46 AM
"Jane" <jarsenal66nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Oh I hope this doesn't make you mad....

It's not about you anymore... It's about DS, you gave up your freedom of
worrying about your social life, your romantic life, your sexual life when
you chose to have sex with DS's mom. Once DS was born your life has

changed

to the point that it's not your life anymore, because everything you do,
everything you decide, everything you are is going to be a big influence

of

DS. This continues until your DS's are developed enough that they are

going

to be who they are going to be regardless of your influence. I would say
mid to late teens. Now you can't dwell on how many years that is but make
the decision that you are going to work your ***** off, be the loving and
supportive parent they require, and forget about getting laid. Having and
SO, does not pay the bills, or put food on the table, or purchase you the
necessary things to raise healthy children. Imagine the confusion your
rollercoaster emotions cause you're son and ask yourself, "does he deserve
this?"

I do find myself resenting some of what you are saying, but only because of
the parallels to what other people have more carelessly said. Basically,
that I'm not *allowed* (by society) to have feelings of autonomy or desire,
or to follow my dreams, or to generally own my feelings. suicidal thoughts,
(or expression of them?) abhorrible. unacceptable. I feel like I'm meant
to repress any thoughts outside the realm of parenting.. ..and I'm sure it's
much easier to pass judgement from outside the box.. .even from someone
who's been there in the past.
what do I have to offer my son if I don't do the things to keep myself
happy? (not necessarily relating to an SO, but not altogether *avoiding* one
either). I grew up in a family unit with 2 parents. my own thinking is
that it's important to raise children in an environment with 2 healthy
loving parents/partners. I can't help this instinctual urge.. ..it feels
like I'm denying him something by raising him all by myself. but I digress.
I don't want to argue with you, but just getting this pressure off my chest.


You know Ty if I lived closer I'd do what I could to help you out as far

as

giving you breaks so you can have your time, yes we all need our time,

our

solitude, our freedoms, being a single mom most of my life, not all of the
time, the kids got the best of me when I was broke, and home. They
appreciate me more when I'm just me, and not with a SO. You'll find the
same thing, show your son that you can be happy and a good father single

as

well as when you are not, or he'll learn to resent the woman in your life,
and he'll hate himself that he couldn't make you happy by himself!?

I always respect your wisdom and experience, (particularly surrounding
parenting), and I trust you're right about this. I know I'll be the only
guaranteed constant in N's life, at this point anyway. I'm so tired of
doing it alone Jane. I'm beyond frazzled right now. I can't think straight
any more. I don't know which juggling balls to focus on, and what parts to
allow to drop to the ground for now. all of the ones I'm juggling seem
equally important. and too many ghosts haunting me right now on top of it..
...sigh
.






User: "lisa in mass."

Title: Re: forgotten 26 Mar 2006 12:27:50 PM
electro wrote...

fucking depressed

I cannot be alone with this any longer. such little window
of opportunity for friendship/romance.. ..I'm too
shy/mute, have such horrible self-esteem, zero-confidence,
to have a fucking chance of a happy life / relationship.
dealing with one child alone is hard enough. dealing with
2 children in different homes, with only a shred of token
support, while everyone else around me thrives on in their
happy families, oblivious to my position is bound to
destroy me. I don't know if I can handle being around her
as a platonic friend forever.. ..it's so push/pull-selfish,
and she appears to only want to reap the benefits of my
fondness, not reciprocate them at all..

I should go, move somewhere else, start fresh..
..*****.. ..it sounds so stupid.

and why do I even post here any more. no one gives a *****
about me, no one asks how I'm doing unless they know I'm
happy.. ..no one pays me any attention.. .feel like I
have the fucking plague.

somebody please kill me..


some people here give a ***** about you. i'm one of them.
you don't have to be happy to be cared about. in fact, i can't
think of much to say when you're happy then 'glad things are
going well.'
as far as the baby goes, you can't and shouldn't take off, as
tempting as it may be. that would leave someone you care about
in the same boat that you're in. single parent with little
help for breaks. it's hard to have a young child. i'm sure
it's ten times harder to go it alone.
i hope things turn around for you soon. at least you'll have
that good rush of feeling when you hold your new son for the
first time and look forward to all the milestones ahead with
him.
please email me when things are tough, if that would help. i'm
good at be vented to.
-lisa
.
User: "electro"

Title: Re: forgotten 26 Mar 2006 12:54:48 PM
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns979288F6E18E2mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...

electro wrote...

fucking depressed

I cannot be alone with this any longer. such little window
of opportunity for friendship/romance.. ..I'm too
shy/mute, have such horrible self-esteem, zero-confidence,
to have a fucking chance of a happy life / relationship.
dealing with one child alone is hard enough. dealing with
2 children in different homes, with only a shred of token
support, while everyone else around me thrives on in their
happy families, oblivious to my position is bound to
destroy me. I don't know if I can handle being around her
as a platonic friend forever.. ..it's so push/pull-selfish,
and she appears to only want to reap the benefits of my
fondness, not reciprocate them at all..

I should go, move somewhere else, start fresh..
..*****.. ..it sounds so stupid.

and why do I even post here any more. no one gives a *****
about me, no one asks how I'm doing unless they know I'm
happy.. ..no one pays me any attention.. .feel like I
have the fucking plague.

somebody please kill me..



some people here give a ***** about you. i'm one of them.
you don't have to be happy to be cared about. in fact, i can't
think of much to say when you're happy then 'glad things are
going well.'

heh, thanks lisa, you are persistent with me, and for that I am ever
grateful.. ..I know I'm kind of an emotional porcupine when I'm overwhelmed

as far as the baby goes, you can't and shouldn't take off, as
tempting as it may be. that would leave someone you care about
in the same boat that you're in. single parent with little
help for breaks. it's hard to have a young child. i'm sure
it's ten times harder to go it alone.

i hope things turn around for you soon. at least you'll have
that good rush of feeling when you hold your new son for the
first time and look forward to all the milestones ahead with
him.

I can't wait to meet him, it's true. and I'm really grateful that M has
such a supportive family for him to be brought up in.

please email me when things are tough, if that would help. i'm
good at be vented to.

thanks lis.. ..my email's always open to you too if you ever need/want.
Ty
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User: "purpleveggie"

Title: Re: forgotten 26 Mar 2006 01:10:10 PM
electro wrote:

fucking depressed

I cannot be alone with this any longer. such little window of opportunity
for friendship/romance.. ..I'm too shy/mute, have such horrible
self-esteem, zero-confidence, to have a fucking chance of a happy life /
relationship. dealing with one child alone is hard enough. dealing with 2
children in different homes, with only a shred of token support, while
everyone else around me thrives on in their happy families, oblivious to my
position is bound to destroy me. I don't know if I can handle being around
her as a platonic friend forever.. ..it's so push/pull-selfish, and she
appears to only want to reap the benefits of my fondness, not reciprocate
them at all..

I should go, move somewhere else, start fresh.. ..*****.. ..it sounds so
stupid.

and why do I even post here any more. no one gives a ***** about me, no one
asks how I'm doing unless they know I'm happy.. ..no one pays me any
attention.. .feel like I have the fucking plague.

somebody please kill me..

bloody hell man.
look at your child!...and another one on the way.........and you talk
about ending it all!!!
THEY are the reason for you to live.
THEY are your creation and need you so LIVE with your demons and LIVE
for your children.
put THEM first.
nuff said.
Ian.
ps:get a hair cut
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