Sociology > Depression > Fossil Fuel, Burn as Much of It and as Inefficiently as Possible if You Really Want to Help
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"Bacon" |
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03 Apr 2007 03:18:04 AM |
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Fossil Fuel, Burn as Much of It and as Inefficiently as Possible if You Really Want to Help |
This is just my theory, conserving energy and fossil fuel consumption
through hybrid vehicles, industry regulation, cultural
citizenship/avoidance, etc., extends the time frame in which the
current fuel supply is consumed.
This allows for the extended search and discovery of new fossil fuel
sources and more aggregate consumption over the long haul.
Waste it all now and it robs the oil industry of the prescious time it
needs to find new pockets of oil through haphazard drilling and
mining.
Extinguish the current supply quickly and the entire industry will
disappear and necessity will force market resources toward alternative
sources that actually have a measurable impact (fusion, nuclear
plants, future inventions, you know the drill).
Necessity is the Mother of Invention, the "green" movement will
destroy the planet much more effectively than the greed of the market.
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| User: "the_dawggie" |
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| Title: Re: Fossil Fuel, Burn as Much of It and as Inefficiently as Possible if You Really Want to Help |
03 Apr 2007 02:54:53 AM |
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On Apr 3, 6:18 pm, Bacon <rbkf...@yahoo.com> wrote:
This is just my theory, conserving energy and fossil fuel consumption
through hybrid vehicles, industry regulation, cultural
citizenship/avoidance, etc., extends the time frame in which the
current fuel supply is consumed.
Hybrid vehicles would be an interesting example, however
I'm not convinced it's a good idea. The replacement, disposal
and maintenance of battery packs.
This allows for the extended search and discovery of new fossil fuel
sources and more aggregate consumption over the long haul.
Not convinved of that one either.
Waste it all now and it robs the oil industry of the prescious time it
needs to find new pockets of oil through haphazard drilling and
mining.
Oil is prolly being produced at a rate the planet always
did (or maybe a slower rate now), rate of consuming it
is a different matter.
Extinguish the current supply quickly and the entire industry will
disappear and necessity will force market resources toward alternative
sources that actually have a measurable impact (fusion, nuclear
plants, future inventions, you know the drill).
Necessity is the Mother of Invention, the "green" movement will
destroy the planet much more effectively than the greed of the market.
I can, and do produce fuel from waste fry oil (and it works
better than what OilCo can do with diesel). Folk always
have to eat fried food. Of course there is not enough waste
oil for that to be a fuel source for everyone.
Market is going all energy efficient, I suspect vehicle
volume sales and overpopulation outstrips that. China
is gunna be interesting if they get prolly $2000 buck cars
on the road (they can get sub $20 power tools on the
market here - and they are actually OK, not outstanding,
however perfectly good).
No way I'd want an inefficient petrol guzzler though.
The things that are happening here due to overpopulation
is water shortage. Lot of Urrrm? errr? about that from the
pollies, and as such, water restrictions. Combine that
with a drought and a lot of folk are left scratching
various body parts with no serious clue in mind.
They will still keep popping out babies though.
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| User: "Bacon" |
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| Title: Re: Fossil Fuel, Burn as Much of It and as Inefficiently as Possible if You Really Want to Help |
03 Apr 2007 04:22:17 AM |
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On 3 Apr 2007 00:54:53 -0700, "the_dawggie" <the_dawggie@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Apr 3, 6:18 pm, Bacon <rbkf...@yahoo.com> wrote:
This is just my theory, conserving energy and fossil fuel consumption
through hybrid vehicles, industry regulation, cultural
citizenship/avoidance, etc., extends the time frame in which the
current fuel supply is consumed.
Hybrid vehicles would be an interesting example, however
I'm not convinced it's a good idea. The replacement, disposal
and maintenance of battery packs.
This allows for the extended search and discovery of new fossil fuel
sources and more aggregate consumption over the long haul.
Not convinved of that one either.
Waste it all now and it robs the oil industry of the prescious time it
needs to find new pockets of oil through haphazard drilling and
mining.
Oil is prolly being produced at a rate the planet always
did (or maybe a slower rate now), rate of consuming it
is a different matter.
Extinguish the current supply quickly and the entire industry will
disappear and necessity will force market resources toward alternative
sources that actually have a measurable impact (fusion, nuclear
plants, future inventions, you know the drill).
Necessity is the Mother of Invention, the "green" movement will
destroy the planet much more effectively than the greed of the market.
I can, and do produce fuel from waste fry oil (and it works
better than what OilCo can do with diesel). Folk always
have to eat fried food. Of course there is not enough waste
oil for that to be a fuel source for everyone.
Market is going all energy efficient, I suspect vehicle
volume sales and overpopulation outstrips that. China
is gunna be interesting if they get prolly $2000 buck cars
on the road (they can get sub $20 power tools on the
market here - and they are actually OK, not outstanding,
however perfectly good).
No way I'd want an inefficient petrol guzzler though.
The things that are happening here due to overpopulation
is water shortage. Lot of Urrrm? errr? about that from the
pollies, and as such, water restrictions. Combine that
with a drought and a lot of folk are left scratching
various body parts with no serious clue in mind.
They will still keep popping out babies though.
Ah well, it was a thought anyway...my car's running outside, I guess
I'll go shut it off.
I read somewhere China produces 18 times the pollution per unit of
output than the U.S. which means their current growth rate is of
course not anywhere near sustainable...
China kinda scares me, their big and nuclear and mean and heading for
trouble, we'll be all consumed with little old Iran and Iraq and swoop
in they will...
To cover all my bases and in case that happens...
This is Bacon and I LOVE CHINA AND ITS GOVERNING OFFICIALS, EVERY LAST
ONE OF 'EM...
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| User: "the_dawggie" |
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| Title: Re: Fossil Fuel, Burn as Much of It and as Inefficiently as Possible if You Really Want to Help |
03 Apr 2007 03:58:12 AM |
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On Apr 3, 7:22 pm, Bacon <rbkf...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I read somewhere China produces 18 times the pollution per unit of
output than the U.S. which means their current growth rate is of
course not anywhere near sustainable...
It's certainly not.
China kinda scares me, their big and nuclear and mean and heading for
trouble, we'll be all consumed with little old Iran and Iraq and swoop
in they will...
They don't think the way that others do.
To cover all my bases and in case that happens...
This is Bacon and I LOVE CHINA AND ITS GOVERNING OFFICIALS, EVERY LAST
ONE OF 'EM...
If they decide to, they will - not sure they can - in a way
we all feed off them. Curious setup. India is much the same.
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: Fossil Fuel, Burn as Much of It and as Inefficiently as Possible if You Really Want to Help |
03 Apr 2007 03:58:38 AM |
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"the_dawggie" <the_dawggie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175590691.923859.112210@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 3, 7:22 pm, Bacon <rbkf...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I read somewhere China produces 18 times the pollution per unit of
output than the U.S. which means their current growth rate is of
course not anywhere near sustainable...
It's certainly not.
China kinda scares me, their big and nuclear and mean and heading
for
trouble, we'll be all consumed with little old Iran and Iraq and
swoop
in they will...
They don't think the way that others do.
To cover all my bases and in case that happens...
This is Bacon and I LOVE CHINA AND ITS GOVERNING OFFICIALS, EVERY
LAST
ONE OF 'EM...
If they decide to, they will - not sure they can - in a way
we all feed off them. Curious setup. India is much the same.
they have ink
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| User: "the_dawggie" |
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| Title: Re: Fossil Fuel, Burn as Much of It and as Inefficiently as Possible if You Really Want to Help |
03 Apr 2007 04:22:23 AM |
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On Apr 3, 6:58 pm, "%" <pers...@gmail.com> wrote:
"the_dawggie" <the_dawg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175590691.923859.112210@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 3, 7:22 pm, Bacon <rbkf...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I read somewhere China produces 18 times the pollution per unit of
output than the U.S. which means their current growth rate is of
course not anywhere near sustainable...
It's certainly not.
China kinda scares me, their big and nuclear and mean and heading
for
trouble, we'll be all consumed with little old Iran and Iraq and
swoop
in they will...
They don't think the way that others do.
To cover all my bases and in case that happens...
This is Bacon and I LOVE CHINA AND ITS GOVERNING OFFICIALS, EVERY
LAST
ONE OF 'EM...
If they decide to, they will - not sure they can - in a way
we all feed off them. Curious setup. India is much the same.
they have ink
I don't need ink right now, I have a keyboard.
If I could get the 'phone near the 'puter keyboard
I really wouldn't need ink.
Stuff it, I'll use a pencil.
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: Fossil Fuel, Burn as Much of It and as Inefficiently as Possible if You Really Want to Help |
03 Apr 2007 02:58:49 AM |
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i had a wart once
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| User: "the_dawggie" |
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| Title: Re: Fossil Fuel, Burn as Much of It and as Inefficiently as Possible if You Really Want to Help |
03 Apr 2007 03:06:48 AM |
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On Apr 3, 5:58 pm, "%" <pers...@gmail.com> wrote:
i had a wart once
I bit mine off, it was on a finger, so it's all gone
without a trace.
The boil was fun, as it was on my back and hard
to get to. It's all gone now too except for a slight
lump.
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| User: "Bacon" |
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| Title: Re: Fossil Fuel, Burn as Much of It and as Inefficiently as Possible if You Really Want to Help |
03 Apr 2007 04:23:56 AM |
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On 3 Apr 2007 01:06:48 -0700, "the_dawggie" <the_dawggie@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Apr 3, 5:58 pm, "%" <pers...@gmail.com> wrote:
i had a wart once
I bit mine off, it was on a finger, so it's all gone
without a trace.
The boil was fun, as it was on my back and hard
to get to. It's all gone now too except for a slight
lump.
IT'S ALW(oops, all caps on) ays embarassing when you ask someone with
a bandaid on their finger, "Oh, what happened?" and you get the "Well,
uh, well its actually a wart" reply...no recovery from that one.
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| User: "the_dawggie" |
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| Title: Re: Fossil Fuel, Burn as Much of It and as Inefficiently as Possible if You Really Want to Help |
03 Apr 2007 04:05:34 AM |
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On Apr 3, 7:23 pm, Bacon <rbkf...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On 3 Apr 2007 01:06:48 -0700, "the_dawggie" <the_dawg...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Apr 3, 5:58 pm, "%" <pers...@gmail.com> wrote:
i had a wart once
I bit mine off, it was on a finger, so it's all gone
without a trace.
The boil was fun, as it was on my back and hard
to get to. It's all gone now too except for a slight
lump.
IT'S ALW(oops, all caps on) ays embarassing when you ask someone with
a bandaid on their finger, "Oh, what happened?" and you get the "Well,
uh, well its actually a wart" reply...no recovery from that one.
I didn't put a bandaid on it, just as a kid chewed it off.
Yeah I know too much info, but that's life. Shitting myself
while on an aircraft with everone watching - no don't
wanna do that. I've spewed up while driving in traffic
though - had a towel, so it was all good.
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