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"used2be" |
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15 May 2004 07:20:08 PM |
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freaky alien suicide club... |
remember those dudes who all got together a few years ago in their
cyberspace suicide club and decided to kill themselves so that they would
become aliens in outerspace somewhere? and then they all got together in
that house in california and took their lives? have you ever considered
having a freaky ASD club like that?
/me pictures us all getting together in a rented house in malibu and pulling
the plug on ourselves all at the same time.
actually, i have that daydream alot lately.
i wonder how many ASDer's would come?
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| User: "Jamal Chapultapec" |
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| Title: Re: freaky alien suicide club... |
15 May 2004 11:52:59 PM |
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"used2be" <cindyb@ERASETHISaustin.rr.com> wrote in
news:Ysypc.115299$Dn1.2337@fe2.texas.rr.com:
remember those dudes who all got together a few years ago in their
cyberspace suicide club and decided to kill themselves so that they
would become aliens in outerspace somewhere? and then they all got
together in that house in california and took their lives? have you
ever considered having a freaky ASD club like that?
/me pictures us all getting together in a rented house in malibu and
pulling the plug on ourselves all at the same time.
actually, i have that daydream alot lately.
i wonder how many ASDer's would come?
I'd be there, but just to loot your bodies.
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| User: "Noon Cat Nick" |
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16 May 2004 06:22:47 PM |
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Jamal Chapultapec wrote:
"used2be" <cindyb@ERASETHISaustin.rr.com> wrote in
news:Ysypc.115299$Dn1.2337@fe2.texas.rr.com:
remember those dudes who all got together a few years ago in their
cyberspace suicide club and decided to kill themselves so that they
would become aliens in outerspace somewhere? and then they all got
together in that house in california and took their lives? have you
ever considered having a freaky ASD club like that?
/me pictures us all getting together in a rented house in malibu and
pulling the plug on ourselves all at the same time.
actually, i have that daydream alot lately.
i wonder how many ASDer's would come?
I'd be there, but just to loot your bodies.
Kinda like the movie _Eating Raoul_.
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| User: "Luna" |
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| Title: Re: freaky alien suicide club... |
15 May 2004 08:00:30 PM |
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"used2be" <cindyb@ERASETHISaustin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Ysypc.115299$Dn1.2337@fe2.texas.rr.com...
remember those dudes who all got together a few years ago in their
cyberspace suicide club and decided to kill themselves so that they would
become aliens in outerspace somewhere? and then they all got together in
that house in california and took their lives? have you ever considered
having a freaky ASD club like that?
/me pictures us all getting together in a rented house in malibu and pulling
the plug on ourselves all at the same time.
actually, i have that daydream alot lately.
i wonder how many ASDer's would come?
Hopefully NONE.
This reminds me of that creep dino who used to post here looking for a (female,
natch) partner to jump off a tall building with.
You need to get yourself to a shrink or a hospital or something.
Jean
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| User: "used2be" |
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| Title: Re: freaky alien suicide club... |
15 May 2004 08:21:07 PM |
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"Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2gnspaF4te3oU1@uni-berlin.de...
"used2be" <cindyb@ERASETHISaustin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Ysypc.115299$Dn1.2337@fe2.texas.rr.com...
remember those dudes who all got together a few years ago in their
cyberspace suicide club and decided to kill themselves so that they
would
become aliens in outerspace somewhere? and then they all got together
in
that house in california and took their lives? have you ever
considered
having a freaky ASD club like that?
/me pictures us all getting together in a rented house in malibu and
pulling
the plug on ourselves all at the same time.
actually, i have that daydream alot lately.
i wonder how many ASDer's would come?
Hopefully NONE.
This reminds me of that creep dino who used to post here looking for a
(female,
natch) partner to jump off a tall building with.
You need to get yourself to a shrink or a hospital or something.
i don't mean to come across as a "creep." i was just posting my honest
thoughts.
i need to stop being so honest, i guess.
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| User: "Luna" |
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| Title: Re: freaky alien suicide club... |
15 May 2004 08:33:50 PM |
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"used2be" <cindyb@ERASETHISaustin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:7mzpc.102361$NR5.15933@fe1.texas.rr.com...
"Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2gnspaF4te3oU1@uni-berlin.de...
"used2be" <cindyb@ERASETHISaustin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Ysypc.115299$Dn1.2337@fe2.texas.rr.com...
remember those dudes who all got together a few years ago in their
cyberspace suicide club and decided to kill themselves so that they
would
become aliens in outerspace somewhere? and then they all got together
in
that house in california and took their lives? have you ever
considered
having a freaky ASD club like that?
/me pictures us all getting together in a rented house in malibu and
pulling
the plug on ourselves all at the same time.
actually, i have that daydream alot lately.
i wonder how many ASDer's would come?
Hopefully NONE.
This reminds me of that creep dino who used to post here looking for a
(female,
natch) partner to jump off a tall building with.
You need to get yourself to a shrink or a hospital or something.
i don't mean to come across as a "creep." i was just posting my honest
thoughts.
i need to stop being so honest, i guess.
It's not good to troll for suicide pacts on a depression newsgroup, u2b, and you
should know better. It's not about honesty, it's about decency - but I realize
you aren't seeing things very clearly at the moment.
You aren't coming across as creepy at all and you never have (aside from your
weird friendships with some really fucked up abusers who enjoy coming here and
doing their thang), but you are coming across as suicidal, out of control,
irrational, and in need of immediate professional help. That's just my
unprofessional and stupid opinion, but I hope you do get some help, and soon.
Jean
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| User: "used2be" |
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| Title: Re: freaky alien suicide club... |
15 May 2004 08:45:13 PM |
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"Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com> wrote
It's not good to troll for suicide pacts on a depression newsgroup, u2b,
and you
should know better. It's not about honesty, it's about decency - but I
realize
you aren't seeing things very clearly at the moment.
i'm sorry that it seemed an indecent thing to do. that thought never
occurred to me. perhaps you are right. maybe it was. if so, i'm sorry you
guys. :-( i'm sure there is a more appropriate place for me to go for that
sort of thing.
You aren't coming across as creepy at all and you never have (aside from
your
weird friendships with some really fucked up abusers who enjoy coming here
and
doing their thang),
i don't understand this comment, but i don't have the energy to defend
myself against it either.
but you are coming across as suicidal, out of control,
irrational, and in need of immediate professional help. That's just my
unprofessional and stupid opinion, but I hope you do get some help, and
soon.
thanks for your thoughts, jean. they didn't sound stupid to me. i know we
don't see eye to eye on many things (except "trading spaces") and don't
understand each other alot of the time, but i still respect you a great deal
and i'm sorry for the times i've said things that hurt your feelings or made
you angry.
/me feels like more of a loser than ever...
god, i'm just not good at this tonight.
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| User: "Luna" |
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| Title: Re: freaky alien suicide club... |
15 May 2004 08:59:00 PM |
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"used2be" <cindyb@ERASETHISaustin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:JIzpc.102370$NR5.75094@fe1.texas.rr.com...
"Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com> wrote
It's not good to troll for suicide pacts on a depression newsgroup, u2b,
and you
should know better. It's not about honesty, it's about decency - but I
realize
you aren't seeing things very clearly at the moment.
i'm sorry that it seemed an indecent thing to do. that thought never
occurred to me. perhaps you are right. maybe it was. if so, i'm sorry you
guys. :-( i'm sure there is a more appropriate place for me to go for that
sort of thing.
Well, there's alt.suicide.holiday, but I personally am glad you came here with
your feelings as opposed to going there....
You aren't coming across as creepy at all and you never have (aside from
your
weird friendships with some really fucked up abusers who enjoy coming here
and
doing their thang),
i don't understand this comment, but i don't have the energy to defend
myself against it either.
Then don't, it was just me being bitchy.
but you are coming across as suicidal, out of control,
irrational, and in need of immediate professional help. That's just my
unprofessional and stupid opinion, but I hope you do get some help, and
soon.
thanks for your thoughts, jean. they didn't sound stupid to me. i know we
don't see eye to eye on many things (except "trading spaces") and don't
understand each other alot of the time, but i still respect you a great deal
and i'm sorry for the times i've said things that hurt your feelings or made
you angry.
/me feels like more of a loser than ever...
Ick, no! You shouldn't, you are NOT a loser. You're a unique person with a lot
of great things going for you.
We are different, it's true, but we're the same as well. Opinionated and
strong, that's how I see both you and myself.
god, i'm just not good at this tonight.
Tonight is a drop in the time bucket. Things change.
I'm not sure exactly what, or why, you have crashed like this. Is there a
reason or is it something that just happened without a conscious reason?
Anyway, we can get back to arguing politics or alliances on some other day - for
now, I would like to tell you to take care, you're an interesting person, and
yikes! stop being so hard on yourself - you seem to naturally fall into it, like
it's a default mode or something.
Be the force of nature you were intended to be, feel proud of yourself, you
should. You're different, u2b, and that's a very good thing.
Jean
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| User: "RGBs Neighbot" |
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| Title: Re: freaky alien suicide club... |
15 May 2004 08:51:49 PM |
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In article <JIzpc.102370$NR5.75094@fe1.texas.rr.com>,
"used2be" <cindyb@ERASETHISaustin.rr.com> wrote:
i'm sure there is a more appropriate place for me to go
for that sort of thing.
Not really. Suppose you found a suicidal partner on, say, ASH. Do you
really want your last act to be encouraging someone else to kill
themselves?
--
http://asdwiki.2y.net -- wiki wiki!
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| User: "used2be" |
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| Title: Re: freaky alien suicide club... |
15 May 2004 08:57:40 PM |
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"RGB's Neighbot" <-@-.-> wrote in message
news:--533C04.18514815052004@news.easynews.com...
In article <JIzpc.102370$NR5.75094@fe1.texas.rr.com>,
"used2be" <cindyb@ERASETHISaustin.rr.com> wrote:
i'm sure there is a more appropriate place for me to go
for that sort of thing.
Not really. Suppose you found a suicidal partner on, say, ASH. Do you
really want your last act to be encouraging someone else to kill
themselves?
good point. i guess i just wanted to know someone else had had the same
thoughts as me. it's scary knowing that no one else has these freaky
fantasies. :-(
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| User: "RGBs Neighbot" |
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15 May 2004 09:07:07 PM |
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In article <oUzpc.102372$NR5.86117@fe1.texas.rr.com>,
"used2be" <cindyb@ERASETHISaustin.rr.com> wrote:
Not really. Suppose you found a suicidal partner on, say, ASH. Do
you really want your last act to be encouraging someone else to kill
themselves?
good point. i guess i just wanted to know someone else had had the same
thoughts as me. it's scary knowing that no one else has these freaky
fantasies. :-(
A long time ago, I actually solicited for a partner online. This was not
trolling of any sort, I was dead serious. But I don't think that's what
you're doing here (either one, trolling or soliciting); for what it's
worth, your scenario is too far-fetched to sound serious, and I hope
you're not. Are you???
--
http://asdwiki.2y.net -- wiki wiki!
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| User: "Flashfire" |
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| Title: Re: freaky alien suicide club... |
15 May 2004 09:08:29 PM |
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used2be wrote:
"Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2gnspaF4te3oU1@uni-berlin.de...
"used2be" <cindyb@ERASETHISaustin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Ysypc.115299$Dn1.2337@fe2.texas.rr.com...
remember those dudes who all got together a few years ago in their
cyberspace suicide club and decided to kill themselves so that they
would become aliens in outerspace somewhere? and then they all got
together in that house in california and took their lives? have
you ever considered having a freaky ASD club like that?
/me pictures us all getting together in a rented house in malibu
and pulling the plug on ourselves all at the same time.
actually, i have that daydream alot lately.
i wonder how many ASDer's would come?
Hopefully NONE.
This reminds me of that creep dino who used to post here looking for
a (female, natch) partner to jump off a tall building with.
You need to get yourself to a shrink or a hospital or something.
i don't mean to come across as a "creep." i was just posting my
honest thoughts.
i need to stop being so honest, i guess.
No you dont need to stop being so honest, lots of times I think about death
and the act of dying and the aftermath of my death, the impact it would have
on those I know and love. I don't consider myself to be suicidal anymore.
There are days when I want to lie down and die, never get up. But by the
same token I will never again (hopefully) take a handful of pills to achieve
that aim. I will die eventually as we all must, but I don't want to cause my
partner any pain and I dont want to cause my son grief and guilt, I don't
want my grandson growing up wondering why his grandma killed herself, I
don't want my freinds living with the question of why why why hanging over
them, as I have lived with it hanging over me, due to the few freinds I have
had who killed themselves.
I also know when my thoughts of death and dying escalate, that my depression
is getting a fairly good grip and its time for me to GET HELP....so used2be,
take some advice, get some help....but don't stop being honest about how you
feel, because when you start to fool yourself and lie to yourself. Thats
when you are liable to do something that other people will regret.
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Regards Lee
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No one is compelled to serve great causes,
unless he feels fit for it.
Sir Winston Churchill
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| User: "used2be" |
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| Title: Re: freaky alien suicide club... |
15 May 2004 07:43:36 PM |
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come on, guys. surely i am not the only person who has ever had this
idea!!!!!!!
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| User: "JJ9691" |
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16 May 2004 09:20:01 AM |
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No, Its one thing to be depressed , its another to be a fool,
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| User: "Black Dogg" |
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16 May 2004 10:10:55 AM |
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On 16-May-2004, (JJ9691) wrote:
No, Its one thing to be depressed , its another to be a fool,
you don't seem depressed to me
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| User: "Tim Kettring" |
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15 May 2004 07:47:13 PM |
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"used2be" <cindyb@ERASETHISaustin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:YOypc.115533$Dn1.95006@fe2.texas.rr.com...
come on, guys. surely i am not the only person who has ever had this
idea!!!!!!!
Before I got on meds , I was too afraid of screwing it up , and ending up
crippled with a huge hospital bill . After I got on meds , I dont even think
about it anymore .
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| User: "Flashfire" |
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15 May 2004 08:59:39 PM |
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used2be wrote:
come on, guys. surely i am not the only person who has ever had this
idea!!!!!!!
Ahh no, at the times when I have contemplated suicide its been when I have
been alone, hurting and afraid. It would never enter my head to suicide with
another person or as part of a group. I think I would be more inclined to
talk the others out of it, if I were.
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Regards Lee
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No one is compelled to serve great causes,
unless he feels fit for it.
Sir Winston Churchill
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| User: "Marybeth" |
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15 May 2004 07:46:41 PM |
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x-no-archive:yes
used2be asked:
i wonder how many ASDer's would come?
None. This is a support group for those fighting depression, like you are
suffering from right now. The key word is fighting, not going along with the
depression. As tempting as it may sound at times, it's not an option. Period.
As for your last post, I'll respond to that one as well right here.
You CAN do something about your daughter's depression. You can get her help.
You can support her. You can give her tricks of the fight to help her through
it. You can help her fight it. You can help her get up and get busy until this
passes. You can show her by example that it can be fought and overcome, at
least in bits and pieces. You can get her the help she needs. You can talk to
her, listen, understand, and comfort.
As for you saying she would be better off without you. No she wouldn't. She
would think it's a way out of her depression.
She would be without a mom.
I'm 40 and don't want to be without my mom.
This last two weeks Terry and I have dealt with three heart attack deaths. A
friend at 38, one of my closest friends mother at 67 (and she is having a hard
time dealing with it), and Terry's sister just died. He has lost his dad, mom,
brother, and sister within 7 years. It sucks. His sister who just died has two
kids. Please stop thinking about ending your life. Your daughter will suffer.
I'm not being mean, it's just heartbreaking to see these kids in pain over
losing their mom, and I would think it would be a lot worse at her own hands.
Please think about it.
Mary Beth
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| User: "used2be" |
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| Title: Re: freaky alien suicide club... |
15 May 2004 07:51:47 PM |
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"Marybeth" <terrymce@aol.com500> wrote in message
news:20040515204641.28729.00001531@mb-m28.aol.com...
x-no-archive:yes
used2be asked:
i wonder how many ASDer's would come?
None. This is a support group for those fighting depression, like you are
suffering from right now. The key word is fighting, not going along with
the
depression. As tempting as it may sound at times, it's not an option.
Period.
As for your last post, I'll respond to that one as well right here.
You CAN do something about your daughter's depression. You can get her
help.
You can support her. You can give her tricks of the fight to help her
through
it. You can help her fight it. You can help her get up and get busy until
this
passes. You can show her by example that it can be fought and overcome, at
least in bits and pieces. You can get her the help she needs. You can talk
to
her, listen, understand, and comfort.
As for you saying she would be better off without you. No she wouldn't.
She
would think it's a way out of her depression.
She would be without a mom.
I'm 40 and don't want to be without my mom.
This last two weeks Terry and I have dealt with three heart attack deaths.
A
friend at 38, one of my closest friends mother at 67 (and she is having a
hard
time dealing with it), and Terry's sister just died. He has lost his dad,
mom,
brother, and sister within 7 years. It sucks. His sister who just died has
two
kids. Please stop thinking about ending your life. Your daughter will
suffer.
I'm not being mean, it's just heartbreaking to see these kids in pain over
losing their mom, and I would think it would be a lot worse at her own
hands.
Please think about it.
Mary Beth
i'm sorry, mary beth. you are a good person. i didn't mean to cause you
any more pain than you are already facing by bringing this up.
please forgive me.
:'-(((((((
if only there was a "shut off" valve somewhere inside my head !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| User: "Trishamolson" |
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15 May 2004 07:53:07 PM |
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I am with Marybeth on this Cindy --do these things for your daughter, she needs
you. I know it is hard, but it is our mama job.
Best
Rosena
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