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"Bodhisattvacat" |
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15 Oct 2004 01:06:28 PM |
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Generation X: The brown-shirt generation |
Generation X is going to go down in history as the worst generation in
the history of America. Baby boomers were selfish, but Gen-X'ers are
something far worse than selfish: Vicious, cruel, malicious,
oppressive, mean-spirited and, frankly, evil.
I do not speak only about the vicious, hideous "skeptics" – bullying,
loud-mouthed, ignorant jerks who have assumed that all spiritual
experience everyone has had over the thousands of years of written
history, and all the wisdom that comes from these experiences, is
fallacious, and hound, malign, slander and abuse anyone who has had
first-hand spiritual experience or practices a spiritual system of
wisdom, whether it originate in the East or the West. I do not speak
only about the more evil still – and, in this case, appropriately
named – feminazis, who had created a climate of paranoia, prosecution,
fear, hatred and mass hysteria, falsely accusing thousands of innocent
men of rape and sexual harassment, making women afraid of everyone and
everything, and creating a self-fulfilling prophecy of sexual deviance
through the mechanism of making the climate so toxic and uninhabitable
that some people were indeed driven to desperate acts. I speak about
the entire mentality of the Pluto in Virgo generation – their prissy,
oppressive, antiseptic mentality; their desire to impose upon an
advanced civilization the tribe-like consciousness that keeps all
people oppressed; their contempt for emotion and, pursuant that
contempt, extreme psychological cruelty; their belief in seeing
themselves as immune system of the society and practicing extreme
viciousness toward anyone they see as deviant – namely everyone with
their own mind.
It has been said that in no cases are people so cruel as when they see
themselves as righteous. A Nazi who kills gypsies or a Communist who
kills religious people is in no manner different from a Cujo or a John
Griffin or an or a David Perry or a James Randi in
persecuting people who have spiritual experience or practice religion.
False righteousness without compassion, wisdom, love or goodwill
degenerates into unchecked cruelty and unchecked viciousness – and in
attempting to have social ethics without these modulating, tempering
qualities, the members of Pluto in Virgo generation turn into
brown-shirts, into paranoid bullies, into the most vicious, most
destructive, most virulent people on earth.
I have a friend who used to be a yoga teacher. He had personally had
dealings with members of anti-cult movement. He said that they are the
most mean-spirited people he's ever known, and that the cultists,
whatever their sins, were far more loving and generous and
good-hearted individuals. Driven by a false conception of the universe
and false conception of what is man – driven by models of the universe
that dictate spiritual phenomena impossible and treat man as a
machine, imprisoning the totality of the psyche and turning it into a
beast of burden – these people use character assassination and
viciousness to silence people who know better and build a cage around
the members of their communities in order to exclude all knowledge to
the contrary of the lies that they believe. Far from liberating
people, these people in fact create a worse form of oppression than
religious people – oppression that denies people experience of heaven
and tricks, scares, blackmails and bullies people into boxed-in,
miserable lives.
In attempting to create a system of ethics separate from religion and
based on a false conception of evolution and false conception of
psychology, the brown-shirt generation has robbed life of all quality,
richness, beauty, excitement, wisdom and goodwill. It has tricked
people to be blind to heavenly riches and keep their noses pressed
into dirt, out of the false belief that dirt is all that is there. It
has lied viciously to people, making them believe that all people who
have original thoughts in their head, who have experience of many
mindsets and lifestyles, who have seen life in all its richness and
color and have actual wisdom to impart, are sociopaths, while the only
people worth knowing are people who have had absolutely no experience
of life outside the corporate system and have no wisdom or knowledge
worth having. Possessing no concept of forgiveness, compassion and
generosity, the brown-shirt generation has brutally abused a large
section of the population, including many of the most talented and
beautiful at heart.
In a country whose founding documents demand liberty, effective
slavery is induced through fanning paranoia, misandry, misogyny, mass
hysteria, false Adlerian psychology and prefabricated fear – fear that
leads people to seek security at the expense of liberty; that makes
communication all but impossible; that leads people to see everywhere
corrupt motives and, in so doing, murders people's ability to have
decent relationships and decent lives. It has been one of America's
founding fathers that said that people who seek security at the
expense of liberty are worthy of neither. And I, having as a result of
my statements during a Soviet-American youth summit at age 13 been
presented with a Patrick Henry button that said "Liberty or Death,"
find myself having to defend America's founding principles and
American civilization from an assault by fear-mongers, bullies, liars,
Adlerians and controlling paranoid creeps who have found a sideways
way to destroy American liberty and create in its place a virtual
totalitarianism – what I call a conman's totalitarianism, using
mechanisms of media and social indoctrination to negate America's
founding principles and artificially scare people into cowardly
boxed-in lives where they are afraid of everyone and everything and
fail to experience liberty promised by the founders; where, rather
than being open to life and experiencing life and learning from life,
they instead shut life out wherever it may appear and live a living
death.
When one is a true patriot of his country, he upholds what is good and
true in it and fights what is wrong and erroneous. Mass hysterias and
paranoia and fear propaganda have always resulted in destruction of
liberty in every country in which they were practiced. To uphold
America's spirit – the spirit of courage and liberty that it promises
the world and by which it once has inspired the world - it is
necessary to stand up to all social movements incompatible with that
spirit, whether they originate in the government, the media, the
academia, the corporate world, the Internet or spontaneously in the
culture. In fighting the lies and oppression of the brown-shirt
generation, it is this patriotic task that I practice with pride.
Ilya Shambat
http://www.geocities.com/ilya_shambat2000
http://www.geocities.com/ilya_shambat2000/poems.htm
http://www.geocities.com/drr0cket
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| User: "Doug Laidlaw" |
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| Title: Re: Generation X: The brown-shirt generation |
15 Oct 2004 08:45:01 PM |
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Bodhisattvacat wrote:
Generation X is going to go down in history as the worst generation in
the history of America. Baby boomers were selfish, but Gen-X'ers are
something far worse than selfish: Vicious, cruel, malicious,
oppressive, mean-spirited and, frankly, evil.
I do not speak only about the vicious, hideous "skeptics" – bullying,
loud-mouthed, ignorant jerks who have assumed that all spiritual
experience everyone has had over the thousands of years of written
history, and all the wisdom that comes from these experiences, is
fallacious, and hound, malign, slander and abuse anyone who has had
first-hand spiritual experience or practices a spiritual system of
wisdom, whether it originate in the East or the West. I do not speak
only about the more evil still – and, in this case, appropriately
named – feminazis, who had created a climate of paranoia, prosecution,
fear, hatred and mass hysteria, falsely accusing thousands of innocent
men of rape and sexual harassment, making women afraid of everyone and
everything, and creating a self-fulfilling prophecy of sexual deviance
through the mechanism of making the climate so toxic and uninhabitable
that some people were indeed driven to desperate acts. I speak about
the entire mentality of the Pluto in Virgo generation – their prissy,
oppressive, antiseptic mentality; their desire to impose upon an
advanced civilization the tribe-like consciousness that keeps all
people oppressed; their contempt for emotion and, pursuant that
contempt, extreme psychological cruelty; their belief in seeing
themselves as immune system of the society and practicing extreme
viciousness toward anyone they see as deviant – namely everyone with
their own mind.
It has been said that in no cases are people so cruel as when they see
themselves as righteous. A Nazi who kills gypsies or a Communist who
kills religious people is in no manner different from a Cujo or a John
Griffin or an or a David Perry or a James Randi in
persecuting people who have spiritual experience or practice religion.
False righteousness without compassion, wisdom, love or goodwill
degenerates into unchecked cruelty and unchecked viciousness – and in
attempting to have social ethics without these modulating, tempering
qualities, the members of Pluto in Virgo generation turn into
brown-shirts, into paranoid bullies, into the most vicious, most
destructive, most virulent people on earth.
I have a friend who used to be a yoga teacher. He had personally had
dealings with members of anti-cult movement. He said that they are the
most mean-spirited people he's ever known, and that the cultists,
whatever their sins, were far more loving and generous and
good-hearted individuals. Driven by a false conception of the universe
and false conception of what is man – driven by models of the universe
that dictate spiritual phenomena impossible and treat man as a
machine, imprisoning the totality of the psyche and turning it into a
beast of burden – these people use character assassination and
viciousness to silence people who know better and build a cage around
the members of their communities in order to exclude all knowledge to
the contrary of the lies that they believe. Far from liberating
people, these people in fact create a worse form of oppression than
religious people – oppression that denies people experience of heaven
and tricks, scares, blackmails and bullies people into boxed-in,
miserable lives.
In attempting to create a system of ethics separate from religion and
based on a false conception of evolution and false conception of
psychology, the brown-shirt generation has robbed life of all quality,
richness, beauty, excitement, wisdom and goodwill. It has tricked
people to be blind to heavenly riches and keep their noses pressed
into dirt, out of the false belief that dirt is all that is there. It
has lied viciously to people, making them believe that all people who
have original thoughts in their head, who have experience of many
mindsets and lifestyles, who have seen life in all its richness and
color and have actual wisdom to impart, are sociopaths, while the only
people worth knowing are people who have had absolutely no experience
of life outside the corporate system and have no wisdom or knowledge
worth having. Possessing no concept of forgiveness, compassion and
generosity, the brown-shirt generation has brutally abused a large
section of the population, including many of the most talented and
beautiful at heart.
In a country whose founding documents demand liberty, effective
slavery is induced through fanning paranoia, misandry, misogyny, mass
hysteria, false Adlerian psychology and prefabricated fear – fear that
leads people to seek security at the expense of liberty; that makes
communication all but impossible; that leads people to see everywhere
corrupt motives and, in so doing, murders people's ability to have
decent relationships and decent lives. It has been one of America's
founding fathers that said that people who seek security at the
expense of liberty are worthy of neither. And I, having as a result of
my statements during a Soviet-American youth summit at age 13 been
presented with a Patrick Henry button that said "Liberty or Death,"
find myself having to defend America's founding principles and
American civilization from an assault by fear-mongers, bullies, liars,
Adlerians and controlling paranoid creeps who have found a sideways
way to destroy American liberty and create in its place a virtual
totalitarianism – what I call a conman's totalitarianism, using
mechanisms of media and social indoctrination to negate America's
founding principles and artificially scare people into cowardly
boxed-in lives where they are afraid of everyone and everything and
fail to experience liberty promised by the founders; where, rather
than being open to life and experiencing life and learning from life,
they instead shut life out wherever it may appear and live a living
death.
When one is a true patriot of his country, he upholds what is good and
true in it and fights what is wrong and erroneous. Mass hysterias and
paranoia and fear propaganda have always resulted in destruction of
liberty in every country in which they were practiced. To uphold
America's spirit – the spirit of courage and liberty that it promises
the world and by which it once has inspired the world - it is
necessary to stand up to all social movements incompatible with that
spirit, whether they originate in the government, the media, the
academia, the corporate world, the Internet or spontaneously in the
culture. In fighting the lies and oppression of the brown-shirt
generation, it is this patriotic task that I practice with pride.
Ilya Shambat
http://www.geocities.com/ilya_shambat2000
http://www.geocities.com/ilya_shambat2000/poems.htm
http://www.geocities.com/drr0cket
Yes, it is a rant. I am probably a Gen -X'er. I thought that I was a Baby
Boomer. I was born in 1943, during the War. I thought that the Baby
Boomers were the generation that resulted when all the men came home from
fighting and started procreating instead, and the Gen-X'ers were later
again, but according to the published dates, I am a Gen-X'er. At 60, I am
part of the "greying population." I was a little bit too old to be
interested in the Beatles and the Hippies, but my wife's cousin born in
1951 was part of the Hippie scene for a while.
It does seem to me as an outsider that America has lost some of "he spirit
of courage and liberty that it promises the world and by which it once has
inspired the world", but I don't think that America is alone in that. We
now have a "global village," as we are so often told. I grew up in the
spirit of the "British Empire". Our Prime Minister for many years was Sir
Robert Menzies - a real royalist. He wanted to call our dollars "Royals."
He was made a Knight of the Thistle and a Lord Warden of the Cinque Ports
in England.
Now everything is different. The United Nations is no longer driven by the
"Great Powers" who are permanent members of the Security Council. Great
Britain is very much European, and Australia has turned from an English
colony into a member of the Pacific bloc.
The grip of the Church on Western society has almost gone. I am not saying
that it is a good or bad thing, but it is a fact. The values that the
Church taught us are still there, but are no longer being reinforced.
Other religions have tried to take its place on the spiritual side, but
their attitude to society is very different. Buddhism preaches withdrawal
from the world and its "wheel of pain." Sexuality has taken the place of
emotional relationships. (That may be a contentious one, but it is only a
part of my overall argument.) I think that America is too obsessed with
technology and not enough with art and feeling - even law, which has
traditionally been one of the "humanities" was regarded by Professor Julius
Stone as a technology. He started his book by discusssing whether law was
a science or a technology (those were the only two options he was willing
to consider) and settled for a technology - "social engineering". I don't
think that he was wrong in his analogy - I favored it in my final year
thesis - but I think that it is an analogy only. C.S. Lewis's, "most evil
person" (in "Out of the Silent Planet") is willing to sacrifice an
individual for the sake of a nation (Echoes of "It is expedient that one
man should die..."). That is not the American or Australian value. When
Pauline Hanson was creating political ripples here with her views, our P.M.
said on television, perhaps half-jokingly, that some of the less democratic
nations were asking why we didn't "just take her out and shoot her."
Certainly some countries would have thrown her in jail. But as he said
then, it isn't how we do things. Ms Hanson, the baby, the tramp, the
"human vegetable" are of no less value than the ordinary citizen, and can't
be got rid of as an engineering decision. My wife drives me up the wall,
(which is how I came to read this post) but her value is the same.
The present wish is to "be oneself" or to be "true to oneself." But the
teachings of psychology and of all major religions are that we human beings
are imperfect. We are capable of the caring and heroism that prevailed
over September 11 (and Bali closer to home for me) but as a species, we are
just as capable of committing these atrocities. Every religion must
provide an answer to the guilt feelings that this creates.
To get back to the topic, I don't think that it is an American thing only,
but I do think that it is time each nation took stock of its ultimate
values. And what is a nation? Not its leaders, but its citizens. Each one
of us. That is why I support our concept of compulsory voting. It forces
us to adopt a position about the issues. It may be my "civic right" to
contribute nothing to shaping my nation if I choose, but the opposite is my
civic responsibility. So, BS, don't just criticize. Have an alternative.
Educate those around you.
Doug.
--
ICQ Number 178748389. Registered Linux User No. 277548.
There is an element of truth in every idea that lasts long enough to be
called corny.
- Irving Berlin.
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| User: "me" |
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| Title: Re: Generation X: The brown-shirt generation |
15 Oct 2004 06:53:24 PM |
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Bodhisattvacat,
I have decided to perfect myself before I judge others. Humility
is difficult to learn, but very insightful. I find that it takes
strength to resist the inner urge to censure others, but I also find
that it takes no less strength to resist the urge to censure myself.
Maria
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| User: "=^.^=" |
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| Title: Re: Generation X: The brown-shirt generation |
15 Oct 2004 09:47:11 PM |
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 23:53:24 GMT, me <ranaway@notathome.com> wrote:
Bodhisattvacat,
I have decided to perfect myself before I judge others. Humility=20
is difficult to learn, but very insightful. I find that it takes=20
strength to resist the inner urge to censure others, but I also find=20
that it takes no less strength to resist the urge to censure myself.
Maria
mee too...
except when it comes to rage against the machine
and unauthorized authorities that try to kick my *****
I can make them back-off without actually contacting them
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| User: "me" |
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16 Oct 2004 10:23:46 AM |
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I seem to have the same, (talent)? I can have almost infinite
patience, but once I have had enough I can crush. I have yet to decide
if that is a virtue or a scourge.
Maria
=^.^= wrote:
mee too...
except when it comes to rage against the machine
and unauthorized authorities that try to kick my *****
I can make them back-off without actually contacting them
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| User: "Evil Pnats" |
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| Title: Re: Generation X: The brown-shirt generation |
16 Oct 2004 12:13:19 PM |
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In article <62bcd.704756$Gx4.202052@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
ranaway@notathome.com says...
I seem to have the same, (talent)? I can have almost infinite
patience, but once I have had enough I can crush. I have yet to decide
if that is a virtue or a scourge.
Maria
yep, that is how i am and i am a misfit borderline x-er boomer
=^.^= wrote:
mee too...
except when it comes to rage against the machine
and unauthorized authorities that try to kick my *****
I can make them back-off without actually contacting them
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| User: "% surfs@uniserve" |
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16 Oct 2004 12:16:24 PM |
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"Evil Pnats" <myblowupprejectedme@blowuppp.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1bdb20be9508ba3898a180@news.alt.net...
In article <62bcd.704756$Gx4.202052@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
ranaway@notathome.com says...
I seem to have the same, (talent)? I can have almost infinite
patience, but once I have had enough I can crush. I have yet to decide
if that is a virtue or a scourge.
Maria
yep, that is how i am and i am a misfit borderline x-er boomer
=^.^= wrote:
mee too...
except when it comes to rage against the machine
and unauthorized authorities that try to kick my *****
I can make them back-off without actually contacting them
well i can do anything to anything
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| User: "Ivan Marsh" |
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| Title: Re: Generation X: The brown-shirt generation |
15 Oct 2004 02:56:16 PM |
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:06:28 -0700, Bodhisattvacat wrote:
Generation X is going to go down in history as the worst generation in the
history of America. Baby boomers were selfish, but Gen-X'ers are something
far worse than selfish: Vicious, cruel, malicious, oppressive,
mean-spirited and, frankly, evil.
Well... Let me return your mean spirited rant in the spirit you would
expect: ***** YOU HIPPY!
I'd be interested in knowing if you (or anyone else) even know what
generation Gen-X is.
--
i.m.
The USA Patriot Act is the most unpatriotic act in American history.
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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| Title: Re: Generation X: The brown-shirt generation |
15 Oct 2004 03:14:13 PM |
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In message <pan.2004.10.15.19.56.15.501347@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:06:28 -0700, Bodhisattvacat wrote:
Generation X is going to go down in history as the worst generation in the
history of America. Baby boomers were selfish, but Gen-X'ers are something
far worse than selfish: Vicious, cruel, malicious, oppressive,
mean-spirited and, frankly, evil.
Well... Let me return your mean spirited rant in the spirit you would
expect: ***** YOU HIPPY!
I'd be interested in knowing if you (or anyone else) even know what
generation Gen-X is.
He's probably Generation-X himself, but his winkie is a Baby-Boomer.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "somebody" |
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15 Oct 2004 03:03:31 PM |
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Ivan Marsh wrote:
I'd be interested in knowing if you (or anyone else) even know what
generation Gen-X is.
Aren't those the people that love to drink Pepsi?
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| User: "=^.^=" |
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15 Oct 2004 09:38:47 PM |
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:56:16 -0500, "Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now>
wrote:
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:06:28 -0700, Bodhisattvacat wrote:
Generation X is going to go down in history as the worst generation in=
the
history of America. Baby boomers were selfish, but Gen-X'ers are =
something
far worse than selfish: Vicious, cruel, malicious, oppressive,
mean-spirited and, frankly, evil.
Well... Let me return your mean spirited rant in the spirit you would
expect: ***** YOU HIPPY!
I'd be interested in knowing if you (or anyone else) even know what
generation Gen-X is.
dead if they tried whapping on me with a skateboard
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| User: "Janithor" |
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| Title: Re: Generation X: The brown-shirt generation |
15 Oct 2004 01:51:47 PM |
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x-no-archive: yes
Bodhisattvacat wrote:
Generation X is going to go down in history as the worst generation in
the history of America. Baby boomers were selfish, but Gen-X'ers are
something far worse than selfish: Vicious, cruel, malicious,
oppressive, mean-spirited and, frankly, evil.
Oh great, a Generation X-basher!
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| User: "% surfs@uniserve" |
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15 Oct 2004 02:03:46 PM |
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:41701C43.1050805@comcast.net...
x-no-archive: yes
Bodhisattvacat wrote:
Generation X is going to go down in history as the worst generation in
the history of America. Baby boomers were selfish, but Gen-X'ers are
something far worse than selfish: Vicious, cruel, malicious,
oppressive, mean-spirited and, frankly, evil.
Oh great, a Generation X-basher!
he gets no twinkie
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