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Sociology > Depression |
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"Joe User" |
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23 Jun 2003 05:41:28 PM |
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Globalization |
Man, I should stick to government work, spent 2 hours arguing with some bone
head Indian (From India) how Indian Brute force, though 1000 human monkeys
at a problem, vs. small teams that actually know what they are doing are not
identical, comparing apples and oranges.
US costs are significantly higher than worthless turd world nation costs,
and you really do get what you pay for, If you want control chips that work
all the time the way they are suppose to, there is a cost associated with
them.
Ya know, I never ever have to justify why guidance systems must consistently
work, most people grasp the significance of quality in thing that can level
city blocks.
But still I just hate the globalists, the minute I quote a price the
primates immediately start thinking in terms of what that could buy them in
third world countries.
Great, they can set up their own businesses to buy their third world crap, I
know, the demand for quality high tech goods in India is about the same as
the demand for snow in Alaska (non-existent)
These people live in mud huts, literally, why am I competing against people
who have only recently figured out how indoor plumbing works.
Grrr, back to work.
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| User: "Janithor" |
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| Title: Re: Globalization |
23 Jun 2003 06:30:01 PM |
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x-no-archive: yes
Joe User wrote:
Man, I should stick to government work, spent 2 hours arguing with some bone
head Indian (From India) how Indian Brute force, though 1000 human monkeys
at a problem, vs. small teams that actually know what they are doing are not
identical, comparing apples and oranges.
US costs are significantly higher than worthless turd world nation costs,
and you really do get what you pay for, If you want control chips that work
all the time the way they are suppose to, there is a cost associated with
them.
Ya know, I never ever have to justify why guidance systems must consistently
work, most people grasp the significance of quality in thing that can level
city blocks.
But still I just hate the globalists, the minute I quote a price the
primates immediately start thinking in terms of what that could buy them in
third world countries.
Great, they can set up their own businesses to buy their third world crap, I
know, the demand for quality high tech goods in India is about the same as
the demand for snow in Alaska (non-existent)
These people live in mud huts, literally, why am I competing against people
who have only recently figured out how indoor plumbing works.
Grrr, back to work.
These countries haven't fully developed because of their political
system. Ture, India has a population burden that puts it in a different
class than say Bhutan. But so does China, and their development is
humming along.
If you can make something more cheaply someplace else, why wouldn't you
do that? If the people in India are willing to write code for a basic
product at 1/3 the cost of having some Gen X or Gen Y monkey in the Bay
Area do it, and the final product is equivalent, well, why wouldn't you
do that?
The economy is not a zero-sum game, that's where you logic falls apart.
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| User: "Janithor" |
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| Title: Re: Globalization |
24 Jun 2003 01:45:26 AM |
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x-no-archive: yes
Joe User wrote:
Janithor wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
<snip>
These countries haven't fully developed because of their political
system.
NO it's because their are inferior human beings, capible of only producing
billions of more inferior human beings.
Really? How do you explain this photo of the Korean peninsula?
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/dprk/images/dprk-dmsp-dark.jpg
Same race, same language, same culture, same people. 2 very different
outcomes. 2 very different governments.
The chances of them "evolving" are on par with you getting up one morrning
and Bruno cooking you breakfast.
Well, I suppose Bruno slime has some nutritional value to it, but I'm
not about to test it to find out.
It's hard coded into their DNA, Nature made all sorts of people, and just
like anything else nature makes, some are sucessful mutations, the
overwhelming are not. Western Civilization is the succesful mutation, all
the thrid world nations/peoples are the failed attempts.
Failed countries, like Japan, Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan - those
failed countries? The Chinese economy has been growing at around 8%
year for the past decade. This is the 2nd most populous nation on the
planet, too. With well over 1 billion people, they are still
accomplishing this astounding growth. Why is this, Joe? In fact, you
live in California. Why don't you go to a UC Berkeley or a Stanford
graduation ceremony, and tell me the surnames of all the people
graduating with PhD's in engineering and the hard sciences?
Now why would you want to sink perfectly good money after a subspecies that
nature has given up on.
Ture, India has a population burden that puts it in a different class
than say Bhutan.
That's what Indians/Chineese/Latinos do, they breed like mad, just like
their biological equivielents - Bacteria, they just replicate and replicate
until the host organism collapes, then they die, Only we are the host
organism, time to break out the industrial strenth anti-biotics.
China's population growth has slowed, so much so that India now has more
people. Japan has one of the oldest populations of any nation, and I
believe they are experiences an actual decrease in population. Same
basic racial stock, similiar cultural backgrounds.
And as an AMERICAN, why would I want to see China develop? Why not starve
the Asian fucks out of existance. I am in no part asian, as a matter of
fact, just like Indians, I hate everything about them, wish them all dead,
don't talk to them, am never nice to them, etc. Rule one of war, never
humanize the enemy, all you need to know is they are not you, they pose a
threat, and need to be gone (Our army just provides the push into oblivion).
Well, then you're an idiot, because I've met some very nice Asians. My
biggest customer is an Iranian, and he's a nice guy on top of being very
rich.
Once again, China has been growing at over 8% year. Korea, Taiwan, et.
al. have been growing at a fast clip for 30+ years now. Yet the US
economy continues to grow, continues to innovate, and continues to do
well. I live a comfortable life, and I'm a frickin janitor for crying
out loud. So please, tell me how the growth in the Korean economy the
past 30+ years has made me worse off?
If you can make something more cheaply someplace else, why wouldn't
you do that?
Simple economics, that's money that has left the system, wealth
redistribution, or wealth dillution, take your pick, it has many names. I
would rather have fewer "dollars"with corresponding fewer people, than lots
of dollars with tons of monkeys. Each "dollar" is worth less, we are no
longer under the gold standard.
Over-population is a separate issue, and I agree with you that there are
too many people on the planet. That doesn't change the laws of market
economics and how economies grow, and how this fits into the world economy.
If the people in India are willing to write code for a basic
product at 1/3 the cost of having some Gen X or Gen Y monkey in the
Bay Area do it, and the final product is equivalent, well, why wouldn't
you do that?
The first part of the answer is that they are not equivilent, like all goods
made in thrid world nations, the quality of products is comperable to dirt,
like Japan's early products. The point is to destroy the future Japans, and
even Japan itself. Ever nation that is poor and starving like those in
Africa make americans that much stronger.
How?
In fact, thanks to the Japanese, Detroit finally had a fire lit under
its ***** and started to put out a better product. The Japanese still
make better cars. What pieces of ***** would we be driving today if it
weren't for the competitive pressures forced on Detroit by Japan?
Under your ***** system, the middle of the society becomes poorer so that
the bottom 20% can survive, but they are the surplus people, why not push
them out, we don't need them. Is it cold? NO, I sacrifice the bottom 20%
(and some of the top 10%) so that the other ~75% maintain their quality of
life - the greatest good for the greatest number.
You always advocate for the most pathetic.
No, I advocate for economic freedom and the creation of wealth. I'm
also not a racist pig.
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| User: "Joe User" |
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| Title: Re: Globalization |
24 Jun 2003 12:45:42 PM |
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On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 06:45:26 GMT, Janithor <Janithor@attbi.com> wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
Joe User wrote:
Janithor wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
<snip>
These countries haven't fully developed because of their political
system.
NO it's because their are inferior human beings, capible of only producing
billions of more inferior human beings.
Really? How do you explain this photo of the Korean peninsula?
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/dprk/images/dprk-dmsp-dark.jpg
My cat likes bathtubs, doesn't mean he invented the bath tub, he just
likes them. Same with Koreans, all that photo proves is that they
don't want to live in the dark. Being stupid, we gave them access to
technology, now they have lights.
And in return they provide what? Cheap labor and goods for the bottom
20%? ***** all of them, no tech, no medicine, let Koreans live mud
huts like their ancestors, they have nothing I want.
Same race, same language, same culture, same people. 2 very different
outcomes. 2 very different governments.
The chances of them "evolving" are on par with you getting up one morrning
and Bruno cooking you breakfast.
Well, I suppose Bruno slime has some nutritional value to it, but I'm
not about to test it to find out.
I am just never than hungry, sorry doggy, I can make my own food.
It's hard coded into their DNA, Nature made all sorts of people, and just
like anything else nature makes, some are sucessful mutations, the
overwhelming are not. Western Civilization is the succesful mutation, all
the thrid world nations/peoples are the failed attempts.
Failed countries, like Japan, Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan - those
failed countries?
They succeed because we allow them to succeed, that's new, 55 years
old, the empires of old had them crushed under iron boots, *****
everything asian, their pathetic languages, cultures, religions, like
the people, it's all inferior garbage.
Burn the trash.
The Chinese economy has been growing at around 8%
year for the past decade.
That's OUR money ***** nut, in order to provide you, a creature that's
very low on the value chain with goods, you sold out the nation, the
smarter thing is you know what, Janitor isn't good enough, into the
trash bin he goes, you get nothing, I get more, and more, and more,
until there is no more, then like Alexander, we weep because their are
no more nations to conquer.
This is the 2nd most populous nation on the
planet, too. With well over 1 billion people, they are still
accomplishing this astounding growth. Why is this, Joe?
One billion pieces of human dog *****. Need Nukes to sterilize the
ground they live on.
Why do they have growth? It's wealth redistribution ***** nut, you take
the money from here, and put it there, that simple.
I'll be dust by the time it all evens out and is equal, in say oh 400
years, nobody has 400 years, so ***** China, push them Asians out of
existence, it's not like they have anything to offer, and if you
believe they do, you are an eastern loving POS as well as a Latino
loving POS.
They are dirt, worth less than cows, inferior, flawed creatures,
natures's mistakes, and the worthless POSes breed like diseases.
In fact, you
live in California. Why don't you go to a UC Berkeley or a Stanford
graduation ceremony, and tell me the surnames of all the people
graduating with PhD's in engineering and the hard sciences?
That has been noticed by alot of people, and it does raises alot of
concern. It's simple economics, the amount of hoops and *****
associated with them isn't worth the price, the salaries are just not
that high for the amount of effort required.
I pass on alot of sales, frankly because they are just not profitable
enough.
so what do you do? You can do what I do, make it worth people's while
to go through that much *****, go through the *****, I give you
a 6 figure salary.
Or the Janitor approach, import a bunch of primates and give them the
opportunity to eat and breed, only paying 40k, which is 10X what they
would make in their pathetic homeland.
Now why would you want to sink perfectly good money after a subspecies that
nature has given up on.
Ture, India has a population burden that puts it in a different class
than say Bhutan.
That's what Indians/Chineese/Latinos do, they breed like mad, just like
their biological equivielents - Bacteria, they just replicate and replicate
until the host organism collapes, then they die, Only we are the host
organism, time to break out the industrial strenth anti-biotics.
China's population growth has slowed, so much so that India now has more
people.
Box of hammers, box of rocks, both are really really dumb.
Japan has one of the oldest populations of any nation, and I
believe they are experiences an actual decrease in population. Same
basic racial stock, similiar cultural backgrounds.
Japan was built with American dollars after WWII, should of let them
rot in the ruins like the soviets did with their war prizes, destroyed
the peoples spirit, now the monkeys just come here.
We can learn one thing from Japan, they hate foreigners with a
passion. Their biggest cries are who will pay for our retirements.
NOBODY, you old fucks just get to die, buh bi, don't write, won't be
missed. Hope you enjoy the suffering.
And as an AMERICAN, why would I want to see China develop? Why not starve
the Asian fucks out of existance. I am in no part asian, as a matter of
fact, just like Indians, I hate everything about them, wish them all dead,
don't talk to them, am never nice to them, etc. Rule one of war, never
humanize the enemy, all you need to know is they are not you, they pose a
threat, and need to be gone (Our army just provides the push into oblivion).
Well, then you're an idiot, because I've met some very nice Asians.
I don't care if one of them is the second coming of Christ coming back
to give me everything I could possibly want, If it comes from the
diverse, I don't want it anymore.
My biggest customer is an Iranian, and he's a nice guy on top of being very
rich.
You made it personal, not me, facts are facts, you are very low on the
food chain, if a janitor survives or not quite frankly is of very
little consequence to me, not that I would go out of my way to squash
you, but if you do get pushed out, well that's what sux about the big
picture, it really doesn't matter.
The Iranian, he does matter, he has wealth, I want it, he's gone, and
what was his, is now mine.
Once again, China has been growing at over 8% year. Korea, Taiwan, et.
al. have been growing at a fast clip for 30+ years now.
That's our money dip *****, have you been around trud worlders so long
that you picked up their bad habit of "if you run out of money, just
print more". China grows because we are not, we could have that 8%
growth and more, if we stopped throwing our money away to the loser
countries.
Yet the US
economy continues to grow, continues to innovate, and continues to do
well. I live a comfortable life, and I'm a frickin janitor for crying
That's the point, you are very low on the food chain, yet you survive,
I admit it, I'm heartless, I would push you out in less than a blink
of an eye, I'm not going to give up 100s of Millions so a bunch of low
value shmucks can buy TVs, that's freaken nuts, we just don't need you
that much in the big picture. While everyone is expendable, you are
very expendable. Sounds cold, it is cold, but it's true.
You are on the low end of the food chain, you get a miserable
existence, that simple.
out loud. So please, tell me how the growth in the Korean economy the
past 30+ years has made me worse off?
Money, big big money, you are happy with tens of thousands of dollars
a year, My company pisses 10X that in ***** unnecessary expenses,
tis ok, if we stop the hemorrhage of cash to other places, there is
plenty of more cash where it came from.
Third world nations don't buy american goods, thus they are absolutely
useless to me, worse yet they export, that actually hurts me (though
it helps you).
If you can make something more cheaply someplace else, why wouldn't
you do that?
Simple economics, that's money that has left the system, wealth
redistribution, or wealth dillution, take your pick, it has many names. I
would rather have fewer "dollars"with corresponding fewer people, than lots
of dollars with tons of monkeys. Each "dollar" is worth less, we are no
longer under the gold standard.
Over-population is a separate issue, and I agree with you that there are
too many people on the planet. That doesn't change the laws of market
economics and how economies grow, and how this fits into the world economy.
If the people in India are willing to write code for a basic
product at 1/3 the cost of having some Gen X or Gen Y monkey in the
Bay Area do it, and the final product is equivalent, well, why wouldn't
you do that?
The first part of the answer is that they are not equivilent, like all goods
made in thrid world nations, the quality of products is comperable to dirt,
like Japan's early products. The point is to destroy the future Japans, and
even Japan itself. Ever nation that is poor and starving like those in
Africa make americans that much stronger.
How?
In fact, thanks to the Japanese, Detroit finally had a fire lit under
its ***** and started to put out a better product.
Who cares ultimately in the big picture, I don't care if Joe and Susie
Average have nice lives, they are just average, not the best, not even
top 20%, just average, they suffer, well that's the price of being
average, you have to be good, otherwise, you get nothing.
The Japanese still
make better cars. What pieces of ***** would we be driving today if it
weren't for the competitive pressures forced on Detroit by Japan?
Eventually, in about 50 years, they would either have to adapt or die,
same effect, just takes alot longer, but who cares, you care about the
lower guy, to me, totally expendable, they are not a big enough fish
to matter.
Under your ***** system, the middle of the society becomes poorer so that
the bottom 20% can survive, but they are the surplus people, why not push
them out, we don't need them. Is it cold? NO, I sacrifice the bottom 20%
(and some of the top 10%) so that the other ~75% maintain their quality of
life - the greatest good for the greatest number.
You always advocate for the most pathetic.
No, I advocate for economic freedom and the creation of wealth. I'm
also not a racist pig.
You are a worthless bottom feeder, I don't care if the world lives an
Iron boot so miserable that suicide looks like a great escape from the
misery that is their pathetic existence, I get mine, everybody around
me gets theirs and everyone else doesn't get jack *****.
As for racist, Pfft, they are what they are, I am what I am, we are
not the same, and their is no middle ground.
They have nothing I want, they are different, they are hated, and
everything they have is that much I don't.
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