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"Uncle Pirate" |
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18 Oct 2005 01:30:49 AM |
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Good drugs |
I'm feeling somewhat better now than I have in a month or so. A
friend's father-in-law died a couple of months ago of cancer and my
friend decided to put some stuff away rather than dispose of it. 20 mg
Oxycodone? helped a lot. My doctor is on vacation due back the 24th.
There's enough of what my friend brought that I won't resort to
handfuls of Vicodin as I've been doing. If it's working for me, I'm
sure doc will prescribe it or something as strong. Then, I think we
need to discuss the anti-ds I'm taking and possibly switching to
something else. Right now, I take 75 mg Effexor twice a day.
Thanks to all of you that responded to my first post yesterday. I just
might hang out a while; it might be less depressing than reading
motorcycle related groups when I can't ride. I miss riding terribly; a
couple of hours out on the bike would melt my stresses away.
I'm posting this and going to bed before it becomes a book. ;) I tend
to go on and on and...
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Stan McCann "Uncle Pirate" http://stanmccann.us/pirate.html
Webmaster/Computer Center Manager, NMSU at Alamogordo
Webmaster, ABATE of NM; AMA#758681; COBB
'94 1500 Vulcan (now wrecked) :( http://motorcyclefun.org/Dcp_2068c.jpg
A zest for living must include a willingness to die. - R.A. Heinlein
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: Good drugs |
18 Oct 2005 12:32:43 AM |
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"Uncle Pirate" <UnclePirate@MotorcycleFun.org> wrote in message
news:Xns96F2EF33F8609UnclePiratestanmccan@216.234.192.142...
I'm feeling somewhat better now than I have in a month or so. A
friend's father-in-law died a couple of months ago of cancer and my
friend decided to put some stuff away rather than dispose of it. 20 mg
Oxycodone? helped a lot. My doctor is on vacation due back the 24th.
There's enough of what my friend brought that I won't resort to
handfuls of Vicodin as I've been doing. If it's working for me, I'm
sure doc will prescribe it or something as strong. Then, I think we
need to discuss the anti-ds I'm taking and possibly switching to
something else. Right now, I take 75 mg Effexor twice a day.
Thanks to all of you that responded to my first post yesterday. I just
might hang out a while; it might be less depressing than reading
motorcycle related groups when I can't ride. I miss riding terribly; a
couple of hours out on the bike would melt my stresses away.
I'm posting this and going to bed before it becomes a book. ;) I tend
to go on and on and...
--
Stan McCann "Uncle Pirate" http://stanmccann.us/pirate.html
Webmaster/Computer Center Manager, NMSU at Alamogordo
Webmaster, ABATE of NM; AMA#758681; COBB
'94 1500 Vulcan (now wrecked) :( http://motorcyclefun.org/Dcp_2068c.jpg
A zest for living must include a willingness to die. - R.A. Heinlein
what ?
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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| Title: Re: Good drugs |
18 Oct 2005 02:05:19 AM |
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"Uncle Pirate" <UnclePirate@MotorcycleFun.org> wrote in message
news:Xns96F2EF33F8609UnclePiratestanmccan@216.234.192.142...
I'm feeling somewhat better now than I have in a month or so. A
friend's father-in-law died a couple of months ago of cancer and my
friend decided to put some stuff away rather than dispose of it. 20 mg
Oxycodone? helped a lot. My doctor is on vacation due back the 24th.
There's enough of what my friend brought that I won't resort to
handfuls of Vicodin as I've been doing. If it's working for me, I'm
sure doc will prescribe it or something as strong. Then, I think we
need to discuss the anti-ds I'm taking and possibly switching to
something else. Right now, I take 75 mg Effexor twice a day.
Thanks to all of you that responded to my first post yesterday. I just
might hang out a while; it might be less depressing than reading
motorcycle related groups when I can't ride. I miss riding terribly; a
couple of hours out on the bike would melt my stresses away.
I'm posting this and going to bed before it becomes a book. ;) I tend
to go on and on and...
I'm glad you're feeling better. Talking to your doc sounds like a great
plan. At least you can tell him specifically what does and doesn't help.
I'm also glad you decided to stay. Sweet dreams.
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Rhiannon
rhianon@sympatico.ca
The Labyrinth
http://thelabyrinthofr.blogspot.com
"..." -- Marcel Marceau
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| User: "Uncle Pirate" |
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| Title: Re: Good drugs |
18 Oct 2005 10:24:57 AM |
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"Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote in
news:q915f.19920$GH1.230437@news20.bellglobal.com:
I'm glad you're feeling better. Talking to your doc sounds like a
great plan. At least you can tell him specifically what does and
doesn't help. I'm also glad you decided to stay. Sweet dreams.
No dreams is more like it. I tossed down an Ambien too.
--
Stan McCann "Uncle Pirate" http://stanmccann.us/pirate.html
Webmaster/Computer Center Manager, NMSU at Alamogordo
Webmaster, ABATE of NM; AMA#758681; COBB
'94 1500 Vulcan (now wrecked) :( http://motorcyclefun.org/Dcp_2068c.jpg
A zest for living must include a willingness to die. - R.A. Heinlein
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| User: "Bev Thornton" |
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| Title: Re: Good drugs |
18 Oct 2005 03:48:49 AM |
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On 2005-10-18, Uncle Pirate wrote:
Thanks to all of you that responded to my first post yesterday. I just
might hang out a while; it might be less depressing than reading
motorcycle related groups when I can't ride. I miss riding terribly; a
couple of hours out on the bike would melt my stresses away.
What about a trike? What level did your back break on? Would you have
enough upper body strength? I've helped build a couple, one for a guy in a
chair and another for a one-armed man. There's a nice rear-end, I forget
who makes it offhand, but it is differential and tilts and everything, on
top it feels just like two wheels, but you never have to put your feet
down.
I got arthritis a little over twentty years ago and could no longer play
musical instruments because of the fingering. Those kinds of losses never
go away. A lot of things I can no longer do, but that one thing still
bothers me today. Riding would be like that, too. If you can find a way to
get your face in the wind again, go for it.
Also, I volunteer a bit in a lab for people with spinal injuries and the
like. There is a lot happening right now and what was true yesterday may
not be true tomorrow, so don't lose heart. There are great advances
coming in the next few years, all kinds of them.
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<mail.4.bev@xoxy.net> Support: <http://www.amnesty.org/>
<http://www.bchealthguide.org/healthfiles/hfile12b.stm>
Thus should you train yourself: "Not even in play will I tell a lie."
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| User: "Uncle Pirate" |
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| Title: Re: Good drugs |
18 Oct 2005 11:38:04 AM |
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Bev Thornton <1018013243.4.bev@xoxy.net> wrote in
news:slrndl9do7.qi9.1.4.bev@xoxy.net:
On 2005-10-18, Uncle Pirate wrote:
Thanks to all of you that responded to my first post yesterday. I
just might hang out a while; it might be less depressing than
reading motorcycle related groups when I can't ride. I miss riding
terribly; a couple of hours out on the bike would melt my stresses
away.
What about a trike? What level did your back break on? Would you
A trike has been suggested to me many times but for me, I might as well
have a convertible. I just don't see a trike the same as a motorcycle.
They are totally different animals.
My back break was a burst L1 (literally exploded). There is metal
holding it all together. My chiropractor was curious so felt around
there and could feel the metal and that they had removed the knobby
part of the three involved vertebrae. Upper body strength isn't a
problem but balance might be.
have enough upper body strength? I've helped build a couple, one for
a guy in a chair and another for a one-armed man. There's a nice
rear-end, I forget who makes it offhand, but it is differential and
tilts and everything, on top it feels just like two wheels, but you
never have to put your feet down.
Are you referring to: http://winglandinggear.com/specs.html That would
be cool but I'd have a devil of a time getting on as I can't get either
foot more than about a foot off the floor while standing so can't swing
my leg over a bike. I've been looking at and dreaming of big scooters
such as: http://www.suzuki-bikes.com/burgman650.php.
One of the problems with getting anything is that in addition to being
banged up, the doctors, hospitals, therapy and drugs have wiped me out.
Don't get me wrong; I appreciate that insurance has paid in excess of
$200k but all the co-pays add up. I've sold off all of my tangible
assetts already; there's nothing left.
That's another factor that has driven me into the deep depression I've
been experiencing lately.
I got arthritis a little over twentty years ago and could no longer
play musical instruments because of the fingering. Those kinds of
losses never go away. A lot of things I can no longer do, but that
one thing still bothers me today. Riding would be like that, too. If
you can find a way to get your face in the wind again, go for it.
I think the scooter will be the way to go if I can ever get on
financial track again.
Also, I volunteer a bit in a lab for people with spinal injuries and
the like. There is a lot happening right now and what was true
yesterday may not be true tomorrow, so don't lose heart. There are
great advances coming in the next few years, all kinds of them.
All along, I've had doctors telling me "it's just a matter of time." I
think each one has been only looking at a small part of the picture.
Let me give you the complete story.
First off, what I said about the wreck being caused by a stroke is
speculation with various facts supporting that. The doctors
would/could not say yes or no, only that it is possible.
In the wreck, I broke both femurs, my left hand, some skull fracturing
on the left side of my head/face and my back. While in CCU (about a
month), I had six known strokes (I assume mini although that term was
never used).
A few months after getting out of the hospital, I fell and broke my
right hip. The rods have been removed from my thighs but the metal
holding my back and my hip together is permanent.
Now, two years later, I have foot drop in my left foot so badly that I
cannot get my heel to touch the floor and the foot also falls sideways
making me walk on my little toe with that foot. The right foot has
recovered mostly from the foot drop. The left one seems to be getting
worse rather than better.
I am deaf in my left ear with a severe case of tinnitus in that ear as
well. The audiologist says that is permanent. My left eye doesn't
track the same as my right causing double vision so I have to wear a
patch over my left eye. The left side of my mouth, although no longer
drooping, still can't move so I have half a smile and can't drink with
a straw or out of a can.
The pain in my knees is from the surgery to fix my femurs. They cut
over the kneecap, pushed it to one side, and shoved the rods up into my
thighs from there. Then a couple of cuts higher up to put screws in.
The doctor that removed them opened me up in the same places to remove
the rods.
Although my knee pain can be explained, why do my feet hurt? I didn't
hurt my feet.
So now you know some more about what is going on with me. Is it any
wonder that I'm depressed too?
--
Stan McCann "Uncle Pirate" http://stanmccann.us/pirate.html
Webmaster/Computer Center Manager, NMSU at Alamogordo
Webmaster, ABATE of NM; AMA#758681; COBB
'94 1500 Vulcan (now wrecked) :( http://motorcyclefun.org/Dcp_2068c.jpg
A zest for living must include a willingness to die. - R.A. Heinlein
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| User: "Bev Thornton" |
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| Title: Re: Good drugs |
18 Oct 2005 04:12:13 PM |
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On 2005-10-18, Uncle Pirate wrote:
A trike has been suggested to me many times but for me, I might as well
have a convertible. I just don't see a trike the same as a motorcycle.
They are totally different animals.
Yes, very different. I can't stand the rear-engine ones doesn't matter
what kind of suspension or engine, VW, Corvair, Corvette or Porshe,
they're all horrible. Even that special built one made in California. And
the usual ones are like riding a bike with a stick stuck up its *****. No
fun at all. But there's this one kind that rides just like a regular bike
and it is dependable, it leans and it's easy to work on.
My back break was a burst L1 (literally exploded). There is metal
holding it all together. My chiropractor was curious so felt around
there and could feel the metal and that they had removed the knobby
part of the three involved vertebrae. Upper body strength isn't a
problem but balance might be.
Yes. There is an inflatable girdle and some similar things that may help
some. If there is a rehab lab around where you live, it's probably worht
making use of to learn about what aids are available. There are a lot of
things that are hard to find, but a rehab can connect you quick. New stuff
is invented everyday. Every month or two one of them is worthwhile to at
least some people. That is, provided some company doesn't buy it all up to
keep it off the market, as recently happened with the Touchstream
touchless keyboard. The used ones now are going for more than double what
a new one was just a few months ago. For some people, it's the only
keyboard they can use.
Are you referring to: http://winglandinggear.com/specs.html That would
be cool but I'd have a devil of a time getting on as I can't get either
foot more than about a foot off the floor while standing so can't swing
my leg over a bike. I've been looking at and dreaming of big scooters
such as: http://www.suzuki-bikes.com/burgman650.php.
That landing gear thing is weird. What I was thinking of, I looked up,
it's called a Tiltster, very nice, it leans:
<http://www.mysterydesigns.com/> Trikes made with it ride like bikes.
The scooter would be easy to mount, but could you get on a regular bike by
laying on it as someone would while mounting a horse bareback? or do it
the other way around, supine? I've seen it done, just not sure how to
describe it, exactly.
One of the problems with getting anything is that in addition to being
banged up, the doctors, hospitals, therapy and drugs have wiped me out.
Don't get me wrong; I appreciate that insurance has paid in excess of
$200k but all the co-pays add up. I've sold off all of my tangible
assetts already; there's nothing left.
I'm not used to that at all. Canadian, eh? Here, though, maybe there, too,
are charities that provide rehab labs, some of the best-equipped ones. I
volunteer at one. There are also both government funded and private ones,
too, just like there would be there, so maybe there are free ones, too.
You have to look hard. Even here, I run into people all the time who don't
even know about the place that I go and they are missing out on all kinds
of opportunity to regain ability. And it's nice, too, because almost
everyone is disabled in some way and it helps to see that, to see everyone
doing the thing. And the way those places work is that it's only charity
if you want it that way or need it that way, if you want to pay you can,
by money or by work and they help with getting real jobs, too.
That's another factor that has driven me into the deep depression I've
been experiencing lately.
That will do it. Stress, stress, and more stress with loss and longing to
boot.
If you've got down to the nothing left part, which I did myself not many
years ago, you really have to watch out for the bottomless pit, so you
have to reach for help, not just writing here, but investigating
disability benefits, indigent drug programs, all of that stuff. Have you
done that already?
I think the scooter will be the way to go if I can ever get on
financial track again.
You'll be able to, just hang in there, beating depression is like being a
guerilla, all you have to do is survive and you win.
All along, I've had doctors telling me "it's just a matter of time." I
think each one has been only looking at a small part of the picture.
Yes, that's true, but that is how they have to look at it.
Although my knee pain can be explained, why do my feet hurt? I didn't
hurt my feet.
You hurt your spine.
I don't know how disability benefit works in the states, but here it can
get you things like custom shoes if you need them. Is there anything like
that there?
All of these things, the accident, the strokes, the fall, the feet,
otgether they are an insurmountable mountain. It can help to approach them
the way the doctors do, by loooking at little parts of the picture and
dealing with just that part for awhile.
So now you know some more about what is going on with me. Is it any
wonder that I'm depressed too?
None at all. It can take a long time to get well from depression. I am
still getting better and it has been since 1989 that it got serious for
me. And it was 1999-2001 when it was worst.
Keep your eyes on the scooters, maybe by the time you get well they'll
really be honking. And who knows what happens tomorrow? Maybe you'll do
well and get some awesome custom made-on-tv just for you.
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<reply.4.bev@xoxy.net> Support: <http://www.freetibet.org/>
Watch thought and its ways with care,
let it spring from love born of concern for all beings.
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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| Title: Re: Good drugs |
18 Oct 2005 08:07:15 AM |
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Uncle Pirate wrote...
I'm feeling somewhat better now than I have in a month or
so. A friend's father-in-law died a couple of months ago
of cancer and my friend decided to put some stuff away
rather than dispose of it. 20 mg Oxycodone? helped a lot.
My doctor is on vacation due back the 24th. There's enough
of what my friend brought that I won't resort to handfuls
of Vicodin as I've been doing. If it's working for me, I'm
sure doc will prescribe it or something as strong. Then, I
think we need to discuss the anti-ds I'm taking and
possibly switching to something else. Right now, I take 75
mg Effexor twice a day.
Thanks to all of you that responded to my first post
yesterday. I just might hang out a while; it might be less
depressing than reading motorcycle related groups when I
can't ride. I miss riding terribly; a couple of hours out
on the bike would melt my stresses away.
I'm posting this and going to bed before it becomes a book.
;) I tend to go on and on and...
sounds like you're all-around under-medicated. vicodin does
nothing for my pain when it's bad. just like taking tylenol.
hydrocodone (percocet) helped much better, on top of a 75 mg
fentanyl patch. now i'm trying to get off everything to see
where my pain level's at, and whether it's continuous enough
to take very long acting drugs like the duragesic patch, or
should be on something shorter-acting. we're not completely
certain what's causing the pain, though there is a theory.
btw, when i was on effexor-xr, by the end, i was taking over
350mg/day along with remeron. you can definitely go higher on
the effexor, if it's been helping at all, but pooped out.
otherwise, there's drug roulette...
btw, the chronic-pain group hasn't been too bad lately, if you
want to try them out, too. just don't leave us in the cold :-)
-lisa
glad to see you back and posting.
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