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"lisa in mass." |
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12 Jul 2006 09:56:41 AM |
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groggy |
it's a trade-off. sleep and be groggy from the pills, or don't
sleep and be exhausted. at least i can only take the med twice a
week or it stops working, so i get to experience some of each.
grrr.
-groggylisa
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| User: "David" |
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| Title: Re: groggy |
12 Jul 2006 10:07:06 AM |
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hi lisa, sorry you're dealing with things, I hope things improve soon. I
seem to have an opinion these days, hopefully this will get back to normal.
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
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it's a trade-off. sleep and be groggy from the pills, or don't
sleep and be exhausted. at least i can only take the med twice a
week or it stops working, so i get to experience some of each.
grrr.
-groggylisa
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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| Title: Re: groggy |
12 Jul 2006 10:10:03 AM |
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thanks david. it's been a long time since i had 'normal' sleep,
but it's not usually this bad. i see a different doc tomorrow,
and maybe he'll have an idea about what to do for it.
-lisa
David wrote...
hi lisa, sorry you're dealing with things, I hope things
improve soon. I seem to have an opinion these days,
hopefully this will get back to normal.
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97FE6F5634473mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
it's a trade-off. sleep and be groggy from the pills, or
don't sleep and be exhausted. at least i can only take the
med twice a week or it stops working, so i get to
experience some of each. grrr.
-groggylisa
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| User: "David" |
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| Title: Re: groggy |
12 Jul 2006 10:17:46 AM |
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You could try taking some at a different time of the day, or rotating days.
I've taken some during the evening and it's helped with the sleepiness.
Haven't quite figured out what to do with the other stuff.
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97FE719A11EE0mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
thanks david. it's been a long time since i had 'normal' sleep,
but it's not usually this bad. i see a different doc tomorrow,
and maybe he'll have an idea about what to do for it.
-lisa
David wrote...
hi lisa, sorry you're dealing with things, I hope things
improve soon. I seem to have an opinion these days,
hopefully this will get back to normal.
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97FE6F5634473mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
it's a trade-off. sleep and be groggy from the pills, or
don't sleep and be exhausted. at least i can only take the
med twice a week or it stops working, so i get to
experience some of each. grrr.
-groggylisa
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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| Title: Re: groggy |
12 Jul 2006 10:44:08 AM |
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i'm already taking my stimulating med in the afternoon instead
of the evening. my sleep is usually screwed up, but it's been
particularly bad for the past month. the only thing that helps
is the occasional sleeping pill, but its side-effects are
almost as bad as not sleeping.
-lisa
David wrote...
You could try taking some at a different time of the day,
or rotating days. I've taken some during the evening and
it's helped with the sleepiness. Haven't quite figured out
what to do with the other stuff.
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97FE719A11EE0mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
thanks david. it's been a long time since i had 'normal'
sleep, but it's not usually this bad. i see a different
doc tomorrow, and maybe he'll have an idea about what to
do for it.
-lisa
David wrote...
hi lisa, sorry you're dealing with things, I hope things
improve soon. I seem to have an opinion these days,
hopefully this will get back to normal.
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97FE6F5634473mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
it's a trade-off. sleep and be groggy from the pills, or
don't sleep and be exhausted. at least i can only take
the med twice a week or it stops working, so i get to
experience some of each. grrr.
-groggylisa
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| User: "David" |
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| Title: Re: groggy |
12 Jul 2006 12:35:11 PM |
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It might be time for a reevaluation, I would list all meds, symptoms, and
let him know what you're going through. Maybe now is a good time for a fresh
start.
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97FE776111CFFmccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
i'm already taking my stimulating med in the afternoon instead
of the evening. my sleep is usually screwed up, but it's been
particularly bad for the past month. the only thing that helps
is the occasional sleeping pill, but its side-effects are
almost as bad as not sleeping.
-lisa
David wrote...
You could try taking some at a different time of the day,
or rotating days. I've taken some during the evening and
it's helped with the sleepiness. Haven't quite figured out
what to do with the other stuff.
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97FE719A11EE0mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
thanks david. it's been a long time since i had 'normal'
sleep, but it's not usually this bad. i see a different
doc tomorrow, and maybe he'll have an idea about what to
do for it.
-lisa
David wrote...
hi lisa, sorry you're dealing with things, I hope things
improve soon. I seem to have an opinion these days,
hopefully this will get back to normal.
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97FE6F5634473mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
it's a trade-off. sleep and be groggy from the pills, or
don't sleep and be exhausted. at least i can only take
the med twice a week or it stops working, so i get to
experience some of each. grrr.
-groggylisa
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: groggy |
12 Jul 2006 12:36:45 PM |
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good thinking , why don't you do that
"David" <dav2dd@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1152725187_55665@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
It might be time for a reevaluation, I would list all meds, symptoms, and
let him know what you're going through. Maybe now is a good time for a
fresh
start.
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97FE776111CFFmccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
i'm already taking my stimulating med in the afternoon instead
of the evening. my sleep is usually screwed up, but it's been
particularly bad for the past month. the only thing that helps
is the occasional sleeping pill, but its side-effects are
almost as bad as not sleeping.
-lisa
David wrote...
You could try taking some at a different time of the day,
or rotating days. I've taken some during the evening and
it's helped with the sleepiness. Haven't quite figured out
what to do with the other stuff.
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97FE719A11EE0mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
thanks david. it's been a long time since i had 'normal'
sleep, but it's not usually this bad. i see a different
doc tomorrow, and maybe he'll have an idea about what to
do for it.
-lisa
David wrote...
hi lisa, sorry you're dealing with things, I hope things
improve soon. I seem to have an opinion these days,
hopefully this will get back to normal.
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97FE6F5634473mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
it's a trade-off. sleep and be groggy from the pills, or
don't sleep and be exhausted. at least i can only take
the med twice a week or it stops working, so i get to
experience some of each. grrr.
-groggylisa
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| User: "slunky" |
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| Title: Re: groggy |
12 Jul 2006 12:39:00 PM |
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_/ % wrote \_
good thinking , why don't you do that
Because then what would be have to blog about here?
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-slunky
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| User: "aaron from suburbia" |
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| Title: Re: groggy |
12 Jul 2006 05:13:47 PM |
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lisa in mass. wrote:
it's a trade-off. sleep and be groggy from the pills, or don't
sleep and be exhausted. at least i can only take the med twice a
week or it stops working, so i get to experience some of each.
grrr.
-groggylisa
Hi Lisa, I often deal with grogginess. pills or no pills.
when I do sleep, I sleep so deeply instead of lightly, that it often
takes me hours to feel completely awake & alert. coffee helps usually,
but not always. hopefully you can get to the point where the pills
don't make you groggy anymore.
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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12 Jul 2006 06:02:16 PM |
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aaron from suburbia wrote...
lisa in mass. wrote:
it's a trade-off. sleep and be groggy from the pills, or
don't sleep and be exhausted. at least i can only take the
med twice a week or it stops working, so i get to
experience some of each. grrr.
-groggylisa
Hi Lisa, I often deal with grogginess. pills or no
pills.
when I do sleep, I sleep so deeply instead of lightly, that
it often takes me hours to feel completely awake & alert.
coffee helps usually, but not always. hopefully you can
get to the point where the pills don't make you groggy
anymore.
i've been taking these off and on for a year and a half. i
think i'd do better if i could take them all the time, except
that they stopped working after a couple of weeks. they work
now if i take them occasionally, but for no more than a few
nights in a row.
i never did really wake up today, but i don't feel like
sleeping, either. i'm definitely medicating again tonight so
that i can get up in time for tomorrow's appt in boston.
-lisa
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| User: "aaron from suburbia" |
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| Title: Re: groggy |
13 Jul 2006 10:00:25 PM |
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lisa in mass. wrote:
aaron from suburbia wrote...
lisa in mass. wrote:
it's a trade-off. sleep and be groggy from the pills, or
don't sleep and be exhausted. at least i can only take the
med twice a week or it stops working, so i get to
experience some of each. grrr.
-groggylisa
Hi Lisa, I often deal with grogginess. pills or no
pills.
when I do sleep, I sleep so deeply instead of lightly, that
it often takes me hours to feel completely awake & alert.
coffee helps usually, but not always. hopefully you can
get to the point where the pills don't make you groggy
anymore.
i've been taking these off and on for a year and a half. i
think i'd do better if i could take them all the time, except
that they stopped working after a couple of weeks. they work
now if i take them occasionally, but for no more than a few
nights in a row.
i never did really wake up today, but i don't feel like
sleeping, either. i'm definitely medicating again tonight so
that i can get up in time for tomorrow's appt in boston.
-lisa
i've had pretty much the same stuff consistantly: lexapro lexapro
lexapro.
but have changed anti-anxiety med and amount of it several times.
been very groggy the last two days now, and now kinda depressed.
it might be the change in temperature from hot to cool to hot.
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| User: "humble.life" |
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| Title: Re: groggy |
12 Jul 2006 10:32:41 AM |
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lisa in mass. wrote:
it's a trade-off. sleep and be groggy from the pills, or don't
sleep and be exhausted. at least i can only take the med twice a
week or it stops working, so i get to experience some of each.
grrr.
-groggylisa
sometimes i can't wait for my zopiclone refill
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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| Title: Re: groggy |
12 Jul 2006 10:46:39 AM |
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humble.life wrote...
lisa in mass. wrote:
it's a trade-off. sleep and be groggy from the pills, or
don't sleep and be exhausted. at least i can only take the
med twice a week or it stops working, so i get to
experience some of each. grrr.
-groggylisa
sometimes i can't wait for my zopiclone refill
i'm not sure what zopiclone is. this is temazepam, the only
thing that's worked for me so far. unfortunately, i build a
tolerance too quickly, so i can only use it a couple of times a
week. i'm seeing a new pdoc for a consulatation tomorrow. i'm
hoping he'll have an idea as to what might help.
-lisa
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| User: "humble.life" |
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12 Jul 2006 11:18:26 AM |
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lisa in mass. wrote:
humble.life wrote...
lisa in mass. wrote:
it's a trade-off. sleep and be groggy from the pills, or
don't sleep and be exhausted. at least i can only take the
med twice a week or it stops working, so i get to
experience some of each. grrr.
-groggylisa
sometimes i can't wait for my zopiclone refill
i'm not sure what zopiclone is. this is temazepam, the only
thing that's worked for me so far. unfortunately, i build a
tolerance too quickly, so i can only use it a couple of times a
week. i'm seeing a new pdoc for a consulatation tomorrow. i'm
hoping he'll have an idea as to what might help.
-lisa
zopiclone is good, in fact, it might be an alternative to try if your
body is warming to temazepam. you might find a range of drugs that you
can cycle every few months, but obviously don't trust me, i'm not a pdoc...
http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/30002861/
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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12 Jul 2006 02:15:00 PM |
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humble.life wrote...
lisa in mass. wrote:
humble.life wrote...
lisa in mass. wrote:
it's a trade-off. sleep and be groggy from the pills, or
don't sleep and be exhausted. at least i can only take
the med twice a week or it stops working, so i get to
experience some of each. grrr.
-groggylisa
sometimes i can't wait for my zopiclone refill
i'm not sure what zopiclone is. this is temazepam, the
only thing that's worked for me so far. unfortunately, i
build a tolerance too quickly, so i can only use it a
couple of times a week. i'm seeing a new pdoc for a
consulatation tomorrow. i'm hoping he'll have an idea as
to what might help.
-lisa
zopiclone is good, in fact, it might be an alternative to
try if your body is warming to temazepam. you might find
a range of drugs that you can cycle every few months, but
obviously don't trust me, i'm not a pdoc...
http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/30002861/
i checked medscape, and there were no hits for zopiclone, so
it's probably not available in the us. i'm going to ask about
other meds, though, and whether i can cycle them.
-lisa
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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12 Jul 2006 11:25:04 PM |
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lisa in mass. wrote:
humble.life wrote...
lisa in mass. wrote:
humble.life wrote...
lisa in mass. wrote:
it's a trade-off. sleep and be groggy from the pills, or
don't sleep and be exhausted. at least i can only take
the med twice a week or it stops working, so i get to
experience some of each. grrr.
-groggylisa
sometimes i can't wait for my zopiclone refill
i'm not sure what zopiclone is. this is temazepam, the
only thing that's worked for me so far. unfortunately, i
build a tolerance too quickly, so i can only use it a
couple of times a week. i'm seeing a new pdoc for a
consulatation tomorrow. i'm hoping he'll have an idea as
to what might help.
-lisa
zopiclone is good, in fact, it might be an alternative to
try if your body is warming to temazepam. you might find
a range of drugs that you can cycle every few months, but
obviously don't trust me, i'm not a pdoc...
http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/30002861/
i checked medscape, and there were no hits for zopiclone, so
it's probably not available in the us. i'm going to ask about
other meds, though, and whether i can cycle them.
-lisa
Doctors don't prescribe zopiclone here because the "active ingredient"
is eszopiclone - aka Lunesta.
That's not to say it's not around (especially in generic form!!!!). That
way the poor could just take double the dose of Lunesta pills and get
the same effect.
The other one is ambien - which if you've tried before with
disappointing results, push your Dr. into letting you try using it up to
20mg or so. It didn't work for me until I got higher doses and while the
FDA says 10mg, there's really no practical limit. (For instance if
anybody manages to OD on solely ambien they need to give me $100 in
their will).
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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13 Jul 2006 09:12:44 PM |
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Franz Bestuchev wrote...
lisa in mass. wrote:
humble.life wrote...
lisa in mass. wrote:
humble.life wrote...
lisa in mass. wrote:
it's a trade-off. sleep and be groggy from the pills,
or don't sleep and be exhausted. at least i can only
take the med twice a week or it stops working, so i
get to experience some of each. grrr.
-groggylisa
sometimes i can't wait for my zopiclone refill
i'm not sure what zopiclone is. this is temazepam, the
only thing that's worked for me so far. unfortunately, i
build a tolerance too quickly, so i can only use it a
couple of times a week. i'm seeing a new pdoc for a
consulatation tomorrow. i'm hoping he'll have an idea as
to what might help.
-lisa
zopiclone is good, in fact, it might be an alternative to
try if your body is warming to temazepam. you might
find a range of drugs that you can cycle every few
months, but obviously don't trust me, i'm not a pdoc...
http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/30002861/
i checked medscape, and there were no hits for zopiclone,
so it's probably not available in the us. i'm going to ask
about other meds, though, and whether i can cycle them.
-lisa
Doctors don't prescribe zopiclone here because the "active
ingredient" is eszopiclone - aka Lunesta.
That's not to say it's not around (especially in generic
form!!!!). That way the poor could just take double the
dose of Lunesta pills and get the same effect.
The other one is ambien - which if you've tried before with
disappointing results, push your Dr. into letting you try
using it up to 20mg or so. It didn't work for me until I
got higher doses and while the FDA says 10mg, there's
really no practical limit. (For instance if anybody manages
to OD on solely ambien they need to give me $100 in their
will).
i had two problems with ambien. first, it only worked for a
few weeks, i doubled the dose and it worked for another week.
my second problem is that it helped me fall asleep faster, but
didn't keep me asleep. the new extended release version might
be better.
-lisa
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| User: "humble.life" |
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12 Jul 2006 02:20:08 PM |
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lisa in mass. wrote:
humble.life wrote...
lisa in mass. wrote:
humble.life wrote...
lisa in mass. wrote:
it's a trade-off. sleep and be groggy from the pills, or
don't sleep and be exhausted. at least i can only take
the med twice a week or it stops working, so i get to
experience some of each. grrr.
-groggylisa
sometimes i can't wait for my zopiclone refill
i'm not sure what zopiclone is. this is temazepam, the
only thing that's worked for me so far. unfortunately, i
build a tolerance too quickly, so i can only use it a
couple of times a week. i'm seeing a new pdoc for a
consulatation tomorrow. i'm hoping he'll have an idea as
to what might help.
-lisa
zopiclone is good, in fact, it might be an alternative to
try if your body is warming to temazepam. you might find
a range of drugs that you can cycle every few months, but
obviously don't trust me, i'm not a pdoc...
http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/30002861/
i checked medscape, and there were no hits for zopiclone, so
it's probably not available in the us. i'm going to ask about
other meds, though, and whether i can cycle them.
-lisa
don't take them after midnight... i did that for a while... one
doesn't seem to wake up whatsoever...
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